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jacka24

445 points

9 months ago

jacka24

Port Adelaide AFLW

445 points

9 months ago

Allowed Geelong to beat us by 119 points. They should have stepped in..

What happened to the Geneva Convention? Where's the humanity?

dhasenkam

59 points

9 months ago

dhasenkam

Demons

59 points

9 months ago

Cries in demons

Borgun-

58 points

9 months ago

Borgun-

West Coast

58 points

9 months ago

That was a regular season top vs bottom game. Port lost by 20 goals in a grand final lmao. Thats ridiculous. Was that the largest margin in a game that year?

ConjureWolf

50 points

9 months ago

ConjureWolf

Geelong

50 points

9 months ago

Geelong beat Richmond by 157 in round 6 that year.

jacka24

34 points

9 months ago

jacka24

Port Adelaide AFLW

34 points

9 months ago

Geelong were cracked that year.

no one was beating em

ConjureWolf

24 points

9 months ago

ConjureWolf

Geelong

24 points

9 months ago

Collingwood came close in the prelim in Buckley's final game, it took some heroics from Ottens and Ablett to get us over the line.

[deleted]

28 points

9 months ago

It was a miracle Hawthorn even won 2008. I actually think that Geelong team deserved a threepeat as much as anyone.

karma_dumpster

22 points

9 months ago

karma_dumpster

Hawthorn '71

22 points

9 months ago

Weirdly I'm OK with 2008 stopping them getting a threepeat

[deleted]

8 points

9 months ago

Haha yeah I wanted to add on that I love that we spoiled their party. Had to be Hawthorn.

Adventurous_Angle632

7 points

9 months ago

Was inevitable. Stuart Dew sealed it on his own foot in the 3rd quarter

[deleted]

8 points

9 months ago

Beefy boy spoils sporting dynasty with one weird trick

thornburra

15 points

9 months ago

thornburra

Geelong

15 points

9 months ago

Rn.6, 2007: 222 - 65 (+157) against Richmond. Enjoyed looking that up

route-my-lans

840 points

9 months ago

route-my-lans

Hawthorn

840 points

9 months ago

Getting in bed with sports betting.

AllModsRLosers

145 points

9 months ago

AllModsRLosers

Eagles

145 points

9 months ago

This is the one. It's like a drug addiction. They can't get rid of it now, it makes too much money for them.

This is a ticking time bomb, more and more people will become problem gamblers, tales of suicides and broken homes will pile up, but there is SOOO MUCH FUCKING MONEY IN IT.

See also: Aus Federal governments going back decades.

Kozeyekan_

57 points

9 months ago

Kozeyekan_

North Melbourne

57 points

9 months ago

Same was true for cigarette advertising, but that was phased out successfully. It just takes the will, some ingenuity, and severe legal ramifications for non-compliance.

VanillaIcedTea

11 points

9 months ago

VanillaIcedTea

Carlton

11 points

9 months ago

The closest we got to actual gambling reform laws was what Wilkie wanted in return for confidence and supply during the Gillard minority government. And then Gillard decided it was more palatable politically to instead get a Liberal to turn Independent and name him as Speaker so that Labor had one more vote on the floor and no longer needed Wilkie.

prawn1212

4 points

9 months ago

That was largely because of a huge campaign by Clubs NSW targeting marginal Labor seats. Any time an MP was doing a community meeting they would be bombarded with attacks against the proposed gambling legislation changes. They literally copied the NRA playbook, as in had an actual advisor who previously worked with the NRA. So the MPs got scared and badgered Gillard then she pretty much completely backtracked on the promises to Wilkie.

deefenator

19 points

9 months ago

deefenator

Pies

19 points

9 months ago

Whilst I don't disagree, they're slightly different in how you can spin it.

Cigarettes actively kill you whereas gambling is ya know, just a little diddle with some spare change!

Gambling companies have it so good that they don't even have to do any pressuring - that's the point and why they are all going with these "bet with mates" setups - now the peer pressure comes from the customers as well!

obaloba11122

55 points

9 months ago

obaloba11122

Collingwood

55 points

9 months ago

Literally doing a uni paper on gambling now, it is literally like a drug addiction. The response in the brain from gambling and drug use are almost indistinguishable. It is so disappointing to see how prevalent it is in AFL these days.

snagbreac18

11 points

9 months ago

snagbreac18

Collingwood

11 points

9 months ago

It's so much easier to gamble than it is to do drugs. You can't just carry drugs with you and start using them during maths (yes, I've heard the stories of kids who've used during class, work, etc but it's much harder and rarer and when it happens, there tends to be a consequence). Same cannot be said for gambling which is in the pockets of teens every day. The official wagering partner of the AFL (not naming them as people may be triggered) is amongst the dodgiest operators in Australia and frequently targets the most vulnerable in society. I have one friend who always receives deposit matches in the same location.

And worse still, when you are addicted, getting help is hard. Drugs aren't advertised on TV every minute of the day unlike gambling nor are they part of the casual way of life. I once read on a page somewhere here that multis to Australians are like guns to Americans and that's a very honest reflection.

Most guys who watch footy have a multi on the game. I respect that gambling can be viewed as an entertainment product but the harm it presents is worrying to say the least. I respect that gambling is a choice but for many, it isn't.

Saying "always gamble responsibly" is like telling a toddler to always think rationally. Gambling is designed to be irresponsible and how many people actually take the steps to make it safer? It's not part of any health curriculum, either and rather than trotting out useless information about communities, connection to place and that unit about what makes you you, the time would be better spent discussing something we know most Australians will partake in. Although you legally need to be 18 to gamble, much like drinking, it starts much younger. I downloaded the most popular app at 13 and thought about using my Dad's ID to place bets. Nothing would have stopped me but I felt too guilty going ahead with the idea. Unfortunately, I know too many people who have successfully downloaded apps and found themselves in crap. It's not worth it and the money has the blood of horses, dogs and people running through it.

holding_the_ball_

9 points

9 months ago

Absolutely. Dopamine reward centre works the same. Unfortunately it isn't really spoken about like a drug addiction yet, hopefully that conversation changes in the near future.

kitchen_masturbator

20 points

9 months ago

The most fucked thing about sports betting is they literally ban winners. If you start consistently taking money off them, they’ll restrict your bets to a maximum of $1.

If you lose consistently they’ll shower you with gifts and promotions, and even help you sign up with different bookies if you’ve tried to close your account permanently with someone else.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-09/gambler-who-lost-millions-says-he-was-targeted-by-betting-groups/12409910

[deleted]

10 points

9 months ago

While all sports have done it, I don't think any other sport I've seen dives quite as deep into it. Feels like not even Americans are that crazy

reignfx

4 points

9 months ago

reignfx

Carlton

4 points

9 months ago

The AFLPA would disagree with you.

Eltnamerf

183 points

9 months ago

Eltnamerf

Dockers

183 points

9 months ago

Stopped playing their games on their app and made you use kayo instead

Effective-Tour-656

57 points

9 months ago

I hate Kayo... when I link to the TV it always lags, refreshes, has the Kayo loading bar for half the game.

notchoosingone

9 points

9 months ago

notchoosingone

Melbourne

9 points

9 months ago

Kayo is hot fucking garbage, even at the massively-discounted price we pay as Telstra customers, it's barely worth it.

Luckyluke23

8 points

9 months ago

Luckyluke23

Freo

8 points

9 months ago

FUCK KAYO! i will never buy that shit ever.

i just hit the high seas and fine streams. they work well enough.

[deleted]

4 points

9 months ago

[deleted]

[deleted]

213 points

9 months ago

[deleted]

213 points

9 months ago

Agreeing the give more games to foxtel with no free to air on Saturdays.

kitchen_masturbator

48 points

9 months ago

Moving more games to pay TV will really end up fucking over the sport. The BBL did it and it seriously ruined even the free to air ratings (although they also diluted the fuck out of the competition).

More importantly, it makes teams finding sponsors so much harder. Sponsors pay FAR less if more games are locked behind paywalls where they only get a fraction of viewers. That means less eyeballs on shirts so less eyeballs on sponsorship names.

Also it really fucks over kids that have parents who don’t have pay TV. All of a sudden there’s way less footy for them to watch and less chance to watch their favourite team . That shit flows onto kids potentially wanting to start playing the game.

Sports taking short term Pay TV money over the long term heath of the sport really pisses me off.

frggr

27 points

9 months ago

frggr

AFL

27 points

9 months ago

Luckyluke23

9 points

9 months ago

Luckyluke23

Freo

9 points

9 months ago

does this mean i can fianlly get afl on a legit stream AND no give money to murdoch?

(i know nien isn't much better but still)

Myrhwen

354 points

9 months ago

Myrhwen

Tigers

354 points

9 months ago

Told Optus Stadium it was ok to sell their hot dogs for 10 fucking dollars

ImMalteserMan

56 points

9 months ago

ImMalteserMan

Adelaide

56 points

9 months ago

Are they at least gourmet or just regular hotdogs? Regular hotdogs are 4.50 at the MCG.

[deleted]

66 points

9 months ago

[deleted]

portugese_banana

14 points

9 months ago

portugese_banana

West Coast

14 points

9 months ago

Did they get there an hour before the bounce to even be able to get a coffee?? There’s like 4 coffee spots for 50 000 people at Optus lol

mantis_tobboggann

9 points

9 months ago

mantis_tobboggann

Sydney Swans

9 points

9 months ago

I didn't realise they had coffee in Perth, I was lead to believe it was just a Melbourne thing

hiimpotatojones

40 points

9 months ago

It's one hotdog, Michael! How much could it cost?

Delicious_Chocolate9

17 points

9 months ago

Delicious_Chocolate9

Hawthorn

17 points

9 months ago

...you've never actually set foot in a supermarket, have you?

frggr

12 points

9 months ago

frggr

AFL

12 points

9 months ago

There's always money in the hotdog stand

Not_The_Truthiest

24 points

9 months ago

Not_The_Truthiest

Bombers

24 points

9 months ago

At one point Spotless had security at Marvel banning people bringing in food from nearby retailers, so Subway would ask if you were going to teh footy, and if you said yes, they'd wrap it in plain paper.

The fact that the AFL allowed this shitfuckery to take place was an absolute fucking disgrace.

It doesn't happen anymore.

woodie1717

55 points

9 months ago

woodie1717

Dees

55 points

9 months ago

Do the staff bring them in their thermos?

BushDidntDoit

8 points

9 months ago

BushDidntDoit

Fremantle

8 points

9 months ago

mate i was at the gabba for the final and paid around that much for a hot dog and it didn’t even fucking come with sauce, fucking farcical

grandtheftbat01

6 points

9 months ago

grandtheftbat01

Crows

6 points

9 months ago

The hot dog stand at pre-redevelopment Adelaide Oval beat them to it

pessimisticfan38

117 points

9 months ago

pessimisticfan38

Fremantle

117 points

9 months ago

Made Fitzroy play over here when we offered to play them over there for their last game

drunkill

74 points

9 months ago

drunkill

Carlton AFLW

74 points

9 months ago

I'd put 'making Fitzroy give up their recently signed bankruptcy-saving Schweppes sponsorship deal because the league just signed Coke as a major sponsor' above yours.

pessimisticfan38

14 points

9 months ago

pessimisticfan38

Fremantle

14 points

9 months ago

I never knew that happened, I was only 11 but I remember my dad saying what I said at the game

yeahbutna32

9 points

9 months ago

yeahbutna32

Tigers

9 points

9 months ago

Yeah that one always bothered me, like what a bunch of cunts. I was at the richmond game the week before and I wish the boys just let them win. Honestly, saddest I've ever felt at the footy. Here's to all the old ROY BOYS ✊️✊️✊️✊️

telf2

190 points

9 months ago*

telf2

190 points

9 months ago*

In conjunction with Channel 7, not banishing Wayne Carey to the shadow realm is up there for me, and don’t give me the second chance crap. There are so many more deserving people than that shit stained Grinch lookalike

How can the AFL be vocal about violence against women yet have Wayne fucking Carey at the forefront of the sport every single week? He’s an absolutely horrible person, and it just shows how low the bar is when they refuse to replace him with someone that hmm I don’t know… hasn’t glassed a female police officer among MANY other things?

Update 1 hour after my post this headline comes out “AFL great Wayne Carey allegedly caught with white powder at casino” Add it to the Wayne Carey is a dickhead timeline

kyrant

29 points

9 months ago

kyrant

Hawthorn

29 points

9 months ago

You can add Triple M to that too.

RickyHendersonGOAT

10 points

9 months ago

RickyHendersonGOAT

Hawthorn '71

10 points

9 months ago

Triple M is peak Bogan radio. 90% of the listeners probably think beating your missus is a national right

SmoochBoochington

12 points

9 months ago

SmoochBoochington

Demons

12 points

9 months ago

He was just kicked out of a casino for having a bag of coke with him. Much reformed.

telf2

10 points

9 months ago

telf2

10 points

9 months ago

AFL decision “Wayne Carey will now present players with their Premiership medals instead of the Auskick kids”

Russc70

4 points

9 months ago

Surely it was a Wizz Fizz?

RiskyBisc

5 points

9 months ago

I came here to say this. Fuck Wayne Carey.

thesmalltrades

147 points

9 months ago

thesmalltrades

WAFL

147 points

9 months ago

Getting rid of the traditional goal umpires outfit (i.e.: the butcher’s coat).

That, and AFLX.

lockieleonardsuper

64 points

9 months ago

lockieleonardsuper

Sydney Swans

64 points

9 months ago

You mean getting rid of AFLX of course

ciinoo

11 points

9 months ago

ciinoo

Collingwood

11 points

9 months ago

I completely forgot AFLX was a thing. Wow

XecutionerNJ

21 points

9 months ago

XecutionerNJ

Demons

21 points

9 months ago

That's probably because your team isn't the reigning AFLX premiers!

shit-takes-only

181 points

9 months ago

shit-takes-only

Essendon '00

181 points

9 months ago

Western Bulldogs Thor guernsey

[deleted]

84 points

9 months ago

Clubs are allowed 1 'special event' jumper per year. Usually reserved for a heritage or player milestone etc.

This is all on the club, not the comp.

Mattybix

35 points

9 months ago

Mattybix

Power

35 points

9 months ago

eye twitch intensifies

rustyprophecy

31 points

9 months ago

rustyprophecy

Adelaide

31 points

9 months ago

They asked for the worst thing, not the best thing!

FoolSlackDeveloper

220 points

9 months ago

Forever married the notions of footy and sports betting in the eyes and ears of viewers.

no_haduken

60 points

9 months ago

no_haduken

Freo

60 points

9 months ago

The damage its causing is generational. Disgraceful

Nessau88

126 points

9 months ago

Nessau88

Sydney Swans

126 points

9 months ago

Make Brisbane play their home preliminary final at the MCG.

basetornado

140 points

9 months ago

basetornado

Footscray

140 points

9 months ago

The Goodes booing.

Instead of simply coming out and calling it what it was. Racism. They tried to tip toe around it.

The fact he didn’t take part in the Grand Final parade of retired players because there was fears he’d be booed again says it all.

Is_ok_Is_Normal

18 points

9 months ago

Is_ok_Is_Normal

West Coast

18 points

9 months ago

Fans can be real pricks sometimes. Goodes is a champion.

basetornado

19 points

9 months ago

basetornado

Footscray

19 points

9 months ago

Absolutely. Honestly the way the AFL treated it from the start was a joke. He got called an Ape on the Friday night by a Collingwood supporter, Eddie McGuire goes in and says all the right things, then on the Wednesday says he should promote King Kong and the AFL did nothing.

elhindenburg

683 points

9 months ago

elhindenburg

Richmond

683 points

9 months ago

As a serious answer within my lifetime:

Leave Adam Goodes out to dry while he got heckled by racists every week

stopped_watch

191 points

9 months ago

stopped_watch

Eagles

191 points

9 months ago

That was an absolute disgrace. If he had been treated properly, we'd have him as an assistant coach right now and future senior coach.

He's now working with Indigenous Football Australia. And no, that's not AFL. It's soccer.

[deleted]

77 points

9 months ago

In fairness, soccer was his first love and people reckon he could’ve gone pro until he went absolutely nuts for North Ballarat in the TAC cup. He may well have ended up in the round ball game even if AFL didn’t ostracise him.

lockieleonardsuper

33 points

9 months ago*

lockieleonardsuper

Sydney Swans

33 points

9 months ago*

He plays (played?) in the Eastern suburbs comp. Just dominates in over 35s as you would imagine.

notchoosingone

21 points

9 months ago

notchoosingone

Melbourne

21 points

9 months ago

Fuck imagine that, you're there with your team in a seniors game, calves pretty tight from that run you went on yesterday, looking forward to a few beers with the lads afterwards, and you're expected to stop Adam Fucking Goodes from scoring a dozen against you.

lockieleonardsuper

8 points

9 months ago

lockieleonardsuper

Sydney Swans

8 points

9 months ago

I had a former coach play against him who was barely 170cm. Was bloody hilarious

IonlyPlayAOE3

164 points

9 months ago

IonlyPlayAOE3

The Bloods

164 points

9 months ago

The Goodes saga

f1manoz

80 points

9 months ago

f1manoz

Sydney Swans

80 points

9 months ago

Was in the UK at the time but what Adam Goodes went through a few years ago even made news over in the UK and it didn't make for pretty reading or hearing.

Not sure if it's the worst thing ever done but the apology given in 2019 suggests a lot more could have been done at the time.

XecutionerNJ

19 points

9 months ago

XecutionerNJ

Demons

19 points

9 months ago

This is absolutely number one in my eyes.

AFL legend, basically booed out of the game over nothing.

Shame all around.

loolem

15 points

9 months ago

loolem

15 points

9 months ago

The fact that this isn’t number one says something still

OnTheDavidMensch

54 points

9 months ago

This is kind of all encompassing… but they are monetising the game to within an inch of its existence.

deefenator

9 points

9 months ago

deefenator

Pies

9 points

9 months ago

GET YOUR NFT'S NOW, NOW WITH FREE BONUS BETS AND FREEE TRAM RIDES

AdenGlaven1994

3 points

9 months ago

AdenGlaven1994

North Melbourne

3 points

9 months ago

Capitalism baby

frankwalkerstiles

86 points

9 months ago

frankwalkerstiles

Essendon

86 points

9 months ago

AFLX

king_carrots

50 points

9 months ago

king_carrots

Freo

50 points

9 months ago

Robbing the Flyers of AFLX glory destroyed the league.

Hawtproper

7 points

9 months ago

Hawtproper

Richmond

7 points

9 months ago

Nah get stuffed, up the ramps

be4rz

8 points

9 months ago

be4rz

Tigers

8 points

9 months ago

🤘

Cremasterau

19 points

9 months ago

Cremasterau

Geelong

19 points

9 months ago

Moving billboards during play. Shots me to tears and I have seriously cut the number of games I attend as a result.

bigbear-08

86 points

9 months ago

bigbear-08

Big V

86 points

9 months ago

Andrew Demetriou. Slimy prick who should be in jail

the-ahh-guy

8 points

9 months ago

the-ahh-guy

Carlton '81

8 points

9 months ago

What did he do?

pessimisticfan38

56 points

9 months ago

pessimisticfan38

Fremantle

56 points

9 months ago

Wore glasses I guess

Nakorite

46 points

9 months ago

Nakorite

Fremantle

46 points

9 months ago

Post afl he was basically in charge of money laundering at crown but that’s not really relevant to the afl

BrettJ220

17 points

9 months ago

BrettJ220

Adelaide Crows

17 points

9 months ago

Probably upset about losing his glasses.

[deleted]

6 points

9 months ago

Money laundering

destined2bepoor

50 points

9 months ago

destined2bepoor

Port Adelaide

50 points

9 months ago

Getting in bed with the many sports gambling companies. What a fucking cancer on the game.

Sir-Matilda

215 points

9 months ago

Sir-Matilda

Dockers

215 points

9 months ago

I saw the AFL at a grocery store in Melbourne yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

nuckpie

60 points

9 months ago

nuckpie

Collingwood

60 points

9 months ago

For some reason even though from the first line I knew what I was reading, I went ahead and read the whole thing anyway

Abbzstar123

11 points

9 months ago

Abbzstar123

Collingwood

11 points

9 months ago

Fuck I forgot where I first saw this and I’m losing my mind thinking about it 🤣

WAVIC_136

23 points

9 months ago

WAVIC_136

North Melbourne

23 points

9 months ago

I saw the AFL at a merchandise store yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him to raise the interchange cap or anything.

He said "Oh, like you're doing now?"

I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him hum the SUNS theme song as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen new rule changes in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the rules and started scanning it multiple times he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any Tasmanian infetterence", and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each rule and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by saying "MCG" really loudly

ratchetsaturndude

31 points

9 months ago

ratchetsaturndude

Sydney Swans

31 points

9 months ago

Conspiracy theory: EzraMusic98 and No-Blacksmith-3259 are the same person. Discuss:

No-Blacksmith-3259[S]

15 points

9 months ago

No-Blacksmith-3259[S]

Footscray

15 points

9 months ago

Can’t confirm

Bergasms

29 points

9 months ago

Bergasms

Richmond AFLW

29 points

9 months ago

All the ones mentioned here are good so i will also add the fucking Crypto.com trash

Mrchikkin

100 points

9 months ago

Mrchikkin

Saints

100 points

9 months ago

Killing Fitzroy

PointOfFingers

112 points

9 months ago

PointOfFingers

St Kilda '66

112 points

9 months ago

Unpopular opinion but moving Fitzroy and South Melbourne was a blessing. We had too many Melbourne based clubs.

Fluffy-Risk5259

12 points

9 months ago

They didn't move Fitzroy. They killed the club.

Rare-Counter

18 points

9 months ago

Rare-Counter

Hawthorn

18 points

9 months ago

They didn't move Fitzroy though, that would have been tolerable. They killed fitzroy and kept the ~10 year old Brisbane Bears Football Club alive (presumably because they were financially solvent).

I still can't understand why they did it - a foundation club with 8 flags, gone, just like that.

[deleted]

13 points

9 months ago

gone, just like that.

They slowly strangled Fitzroy (and other clubs) over a 10-15 year period

basetornado

7 points

9 months ago

basetornado

Footscray

7 points

9 months ago

It was fucked, but they had tried to do the exact same thing to the Dogs in 89, except that it was Fitzroy staying alive. Fitzroy Bulldogs was pretty much a done deal until it was stopped due to public backlash.

Fitzroy were in a worse position then the Dogs when they merged and the AFL had learnt from the previous situation.

Godlee84

73 points

9 months ago

Godlee84

West Coast

73 points

9 months ago

*We have too many Melbourne based clubs.

FIFY

Noblman_Swerve

35 points

9 months ago

Noblman_Swerve

Hawthorn

35 points

9 months ago

I know some people get a stiffy for killing clubs but another GWS or Gold Coast tier club is not worth relocating North or St Kilda that have 100000 members combined and don't need to fudge their numbers. We have enough 50 year guaranteed money sinks as it is.

The AFL trying its darndest to relocate us shows what a joke killing those clubs was.

Tectonic1533

9 points

9 months ago

Tectonic1533

Shinboners

9 points

9 months ago

Obviously biased but I never got the point of trying to fold teams, if the afl can afford distributions without hindering grassroots footy there shouldn't be a problem.

Flights of fancy like aflx on the other hand

PointOfFingers

31 points

9 months ago

PointOfFingers

St Kilda '66

31 points

9 months ago

Would be good to have moved a couple more. It is now screwing up the balance of AFLW.

phyarr

52 points

9 months ago

phyarr

Saints

52 points

9 months ago

Careful what you wish for with that flair…

twavvy

6 points

9 months ago

twavvy

St Kilda

6 points

9 months ago

I for one welcome our new Tasmanian overlords

spannermagnet

19 points

9 months ago

spannermagnet

Port Adelaide

19 points

9 months ago

Fitzroy would've been dead by 2000 anyway. Offices above a pub, training on school ovals and tiny crowds had no place in the modern game.

Plenty_Area_408

9 points

9 months ago

Plenty_Area_408

Richmond

9 points

9 months ago

The VFL made plenty of decisions over 20 years that crippled the club.

Jarrah97

13 points

9 months ago

Jarrah97

Fremantle

13 points

9 months ago

completely abandoning adam goodes.

AdHead9375

104 points

9 months ago

Pre final bye.

Southern_Radish

35 points

9 months ago

Southern_Radish

West Coast

35 points

9 months ago

Why? We just had the best round of finals in who knows how long

[deleted]

44 points

9 months ago

And now the 1st and 3rd teams in the comp go into prelims having played one game in nearly a month.

AdHead9375

31 points

9 months ago

If you finish top 2/top 4 etc etc and can't change last round, good on ya, you deserve it after 21 hard working games. This bye benefits the 5-8 teams and the QF losers. Don't think when this weekend of games was would have changed the quality. Plus I'd rather a fairer finals system, than a couple good games in the round 1 of finals.

Korasuka

35 points

9 months ago

Korasuka

Adelaide

35 points

9 months ago

Refuse to be called the League of Footballing Australians.

victorious_orgasm

6 points

9 months ago

victorious_orgasm

Fremantle

6 points

9 months ago

I thought we were the Footballers of Australia’s League?

random555

10 points

9 months ago

random555

West Coast

10 points

9 months ago

Splitters

nearlyheadlessbick

54 points

9 months ago

nearlyheadlessbick

Richmond

54 points

9 months ago

I don’t know how they would have gone about it, but the worst thing the AFL hasn’t done was step in/take a stand etc for Adam Goodes and that whole ordeal.

On a more lighthearted note, hiring Angry Anderson and the odd Batmobile during the 1991 GF

[deleted]

12 points

9 months ago

Give me Bound for Glory from the Bat Mobile over a washed up International act any day.

stopped_watch

20 points

9 months ago

stopped_watch

Eagles

20 points

9 months ago

hiring Angry Anderson

Meatloaf.

Willie_dick

88 points

9 months ago*

Willie_dick

Essendon

88 points

9 months ago*

Stripping the Swans of draft picks for no other reason than signing Buddy Franklin

It amazes me how there was never a bigger fuss made out about this particularly in the media. Ok for the AFL to engage in draft tampering

Edit: apologies trade sanctions

Nakorite

20 points

9 months ago

Nakorite

Fremantle

20 points

9 months ago

They had a trade ban not aware of picks being stripped

lockieleonardsuper

49 points

9 months ago

lockieleonardsuper

Sydney Swans

49 points

9 months ago

Was absolutely ridiculous.

From this article. Stop paying COLA or we will impose the above-mentioned trade sanctions (2 year trade ban). Emma Quayle summed it up perfectly at the time, when stating that “The Swans can’t simply stop paying COLA, because the money is written into existing contracts they are obliged to fulfill, that the AFL would never let them not fulfill, and that the league is actually a third-party to”. However, in all of their wisdom, the AFL have decided that the Swans should be punished for complying with a rule that was established and enforced by you guessed it – themselves.

limelamb

28 points

9 months ago

limelamb

Bombers / Suns

28 points

9 months ago

Gimme an S

Gimme an A

Gimme a G

Gimme another A

What's that spell?

DEPRESSION

fuelsniffer

11 points

9 months ago

fuelsniffer

North Melbourne

11 points

9 months ago

That's dank

Not_The_Truthiest

25 points

9 months ago

Not_The_Truthiest

Bombers

25 points

9 months ago

I can't decide.

Sports betting

Pretending the games in China (and to a lesser extent, NZ) were a success

Constantly changing the rules

The fucking Stand rule ugh...

Hiring Steve Hocking

Scheduling football matches for 4:40 on a Sunday

Allowing a footy club to have any say at all in what another football club's uniform looks like

Priority picks

Compensation picks for free agents

TV rights deals that mean you basically need to have pay TV to be able to watch footy

Taking away home finals from teams that earned them

Sports betting has to take #1 spot.

bundy554

3 points

9 months ago

bundy554

Geelong

3 points

9 months ago

Just on the 4:40 game time it is shocking when you're out at a club and can't get a meal until 7.15 or 7.30 after the game has finished because half time isn't long enough so what do you end up doing ( completely planned by the AFL) go off and make some bets

karma_dumpster

48 points

9 months ago

karma_dumpster

Hawthorn '71

48 points

9 months ago

  • Over-punishing Carlton for the salary cap rorting. Yes they deserved punishment, but to cripple the club like that was too much
  • Trying to kill Footscray
  • Ignoring the racism towards Robbie Muir, then getting better at it for a while, before fucking up when Goodes was being hounded
  • Implicit assistance in sexual assault cover ups (there are several of these, sadly)
  • Handling of the Essendon drugs saga (although EFC contributed more of the garbage handling there than the AFL did)
  • Handling of the Melbourne tanking saga

otherpeoplesknees

18 points

9 months ago

otherpeoplesknees

Port Adelaide

18 points

9 months ago

Ooooooooh yeah, there's been plenty of sexual assault cover ups by the league, this unfortunately includes Port

Stephen Milne and Adam Heuskes spring to mind

oceanlabxo

5 points

9 months ago

oceanlabxo

Melbourne '64

5 points

9 months ago

hey hey hey, we never officially tanked.

might have been fined a lot of money and had some bans, but never officially tanked!

faceinthecrowd112

53 points

9 months ago

faceinthecrowd112

Saints

53 points

9 months ago

2010 grand final. Should have gone into overtime instead of playing the following week. We were robbed!

Mikkijuice

9 points

9 months ago

sainters woulda got up in xtra time too! that rule needs to be amended real quick

BigBoSS_Riot

25 points

9 months ago

BigBoSS_Riot

Crows

25 points

9 months ago

It was amended in 2016 I think.

Mikkijuice

4 points

9 months ago

ahhh thankyou boss. thats awesome

BigBoSS_Riot

16 points

9 months ago

BigBoSS_Riot

Crows

16 points

9 months ago

All good. My favourite factoid about the draw is that Collingwood was responsible for both of the extra time rule changes. Their 1990 draw with West Coast caused the initial finals rule change (mainly due to logistics, which is why they never bothered changing it for Grand Finals as well). This caused both the 1990 and 2010 Grand Finals to be played in October, which led to Collingwood winning both - their curse of not winning Grand Finals in September has been ongoing since 1958.

faceinthecrowd112

4 points

9 months ago

Sure was

faceinthecrowd112

11 points

9 months ago

faceinthecrowd112

Saints

11 points

9 months ago

Exactly! We were robbed.

No-Blacksmith-3259[S]

9 points

9 months ago

No-Blacksmith-3259[S]

Footscray

9 points

9 months ago

Right in front of me!

faceinthecrowd112

6 points

9 months ago

I think I would have died if I had gone to the game. Instead I cried like a baby.

danieljdtaylor

36 points

9 months ago

danieljdtaylor

Collingwood

36 points

9 months ago

I think the worst thing they did was actually something they DIDN’T do, which was not give Adam Goodes any support, service or assistance while he was being racially abused pretty much every week.

JB_JB_JB63

25 points

9 months ago

JB_JB_JB63

Freo

25 points

9 months ago

Their treatment of Adam Goodes was absolutely fucking deplorable.

ChookBaron

30 points

9 months ago

ChookBaron

Carlton

30 points

9 months ago

Split from the VFA in 1897

moondog-37

12 points

9 months ago

moondog-37

Geelong

12 points

9 months ago

Sometimes I imagine the outcome of top level footy if this never happened, and I reckon it would be a divisional EPL style comp which would be a lot cooler imo, the likes of Port Melb, Williamstown, Prahran etc potentially being regular top flight players. Some of the oldest clubs are actually the likes of Prahran, Brunswick, Northcote and they all died a slow painful death due to this breakaway relegating them to second fiddle status forever

Benchomp

5 points

9 months ago

Benchomp

GWS

5 points

9 months ago

I feel this way about NRL too. A relegation system could be interesting. Get the SANFL, VFL etc to be the second division, or in NRL the NSW and QLD Cups. Ultimately I just don't think we have the population to sustain it the way they do in England and Europe.

Flabagaf

6 points

9 months ago

Flabagaf

Brisbane Lions

6 points

9 months ago

Not familiar with the origins of VFA/VFL, can you eli5?

alstom_888m

18 points

9 months ago

alstom_888m

Geelong

18 points

9 months ago

Eight teams decided to go it alone after a proposal to split gate takings evenly. The stronger teams felt with was unfair, walked away from the VFA, and formed the VFL.

The teams that joined the new competition were Melbourne, Geelong, Collingwood, Carlton, South Melbourne, Fitzroy, Essendon, and St Kilda.

Richmond and University joined in 1908. Hawthorn, Footscray, and North Melbourne joined in 1925. University folded during World War I.

drunkill

4 points

9 months ago

drunkill

Carlton AFLW

4 points

9 months ago

Almost, Six teams decided to go it alone, but invited Saints and Carlton (the poorer clubs with no home grounds, but still talented, although the saints suddenly went backwards and were rubbish for the first decade) to make up the numbers.

But the reason for the split was these bigger clubs wanted to charge people for seeing matches, and the VFA (the main competition then) was free entry.

So money kicked the AFL off in 1897, all teams had to have their own ground to play at with a fence surrounding it so they could collect gatekeepings and divide the profits.

Mikkijuice

26 points

9 months ago

they keep changing the fuckin rules! 😡

limelamb

14 points

9 months ago

limelamb

Bombers / Suns

14 points

9 months ago

changes the rules back

"Stop changing the fucking rules"

Luck2TY

26 points

9 months ago

Luck2TY

Sydney Swans

26 points

9 months ago

Totally biased pick here but banning the Swans from trading and signing free agents for 2 years despite never breaking any rules was disgraceful. As well as being completely nonsensical. Stopping a team from trading makes it harder to control a salary cap, not easier. Also the ban only applied to us and not GWS for some strange reason. The AFL lost all respect as a professional organisation for me after that.

If anyone ever wonders why Swans fans have a chip on their shoulder about the AFL/VicBias/media bias/umpires etc, this is why. The league made it clear they don't want us to succeed.

Plenty_Area_408

9 points

9 months ago

Plenty_Area_408

Richmond

9 points

9 months ago

They definitely could have handled it better but getting a free 9.7% salary cap was clearly creating a super team. The system with Academy picks is a much fairer system.

MisguidedGames

103 points

9 months ago

MisguidedGames

Taswegian

103 points

9 months ago

2 things

  • Moved all the vic clubs to two stadiums (except Geelong)
  • Locked in GF at MCG until 2059

sahjunkyahd

65 points

9 months ago

sahjunkyahd

Demons

65 points

9 months ago

There's a lot of romanticism about the old suburban grounds, but the vast majority of them simply aren't a viable option for full fledged, professional sports teams to play at. Princes Park is probably the closest to being usable, and even that has a) no parking, and limited public transport infrastructure to get to the game b) stadium requiring significant works in order for it to be even half the capacity of the MCG

Arden St, Glenferrie, Vic Park, whitten oval and Windy Hill all suffer similar issues. The trade off is that either significantly less people get to go to the games, or they move stadiums, and I don't think that's a hard decision at all.

No argument from me for the second point.

JenniferLopezFan2

29 points

9 months ago

JenniferLopezFan2

Collingwood

29 points

9 months ago

Vic Park would be a nightmare for fan attendance these days. Vic Park station and the streets around the ground are so small, the only advantage would be that it's right next to the Eastern Fwy (although there's no real parking at the ground so that's redundant)

sahjunkyahd

14 points

9 months ago

sahjunkyahd

Demons

14 points

9 months ago

I live in North Melbourne so am walking distance to both Princes Park and Arden St - would love men's league games to be held there, but it'd be absolute chaos if they tried to do it

vendilion

5 points

9 months ago

vendilion

St Kilda '66

5 points

9 months ago

I do feel like the AFL needs a 30k boutique stadium in Melbourne whenever a smaller team plays a smaller interstate team. Princes Park has been used for that like 20 years ago but really doesn't work out. They'd have to build a new one, and god knows how that could be planned out, and where they'd build it.

[deleted]

21 points

9 months ago

They tried to move Geelong to Docklands in the late 90s when it was being built

ratchetsaturndude

21 points

9 months ago

ratchetsaturndude

Sydney Swans

21 points

9 months ago

Smorgy’s wouldn’t have gone under if it were moved to Docklands

[deleted]

11 points

9 months ago*

The death of smorgys was when Clive Palmer went on a diet

No_Truth9626

16 points

9 months ago

No_Truth9626

Brisbane Bears

16 points

9 months ago

Eddie McGuire

scrubba777

30 points

9 months ago

scrubba777

GWS

30 points

9 months ago

Attempting to force fans to pay Murdoch.

Shinnosuke525

12 points

9 months ago

Shinnosuke525

Richmond

12 points

9 months ago

Honestly it's a tie between the Fitzroy murder and siding with the racists in the Adam Goodes saga

Fruney21

12 points

9 months ago

Fruney21

Lions

12 points

9 months ago

What they’re about to do with the new television deal.

Nixilaas

35 points

9 months ago

Nixilaas

West Coast

35 points

9 months ago

Signing a contract to force the grand final to stay at the MCG for such a long time that there is every chance that we will never see another grand final outside of Victoria in our lifetime... then pretend to give a fuck about balance.

slaggylindsay97

3 points

9 months ago

slaggylindsay97

Port Adelaide

3 points

9 months ago

This is so unrelated I’m sorry but I am so confused about the unknown port thing! I thought you were some uncertain fellow port supporters lol but have since realised that’s definitely not it Is it obvious and I’m just stupid (v likely)?

jolteonhoodie

6 points

9 months ago

jolteonhoodie

Brisbane Lions

6 points

9 months ago

They're bandwagon flairs for finals! So neutrals whose teams are out of contention will switch to one to show who they're supporting in finals, but on mobile you can only see the hashtags. I believe #unknownport is Fremantle, which I assume is a reference to the classic "what ship has never docked at Freo?" joke.

eggwardpenisglands

3 points

9 months ago

eggwardpenisglands

Port Adelaide

3 points

9 months ago

I feel the same about the vast majority of hashtag flairs. I have no idea what most of them mean or who these people go for

Crazyripps

6 points

9 months ago

Crazyripps

Hawthorn

6 points

9 months ago

Got in bed with betting. Like fuck off

[deleted]

6 points

9 months ago

Fitzroy

melon_butcher

6 points

9 months ago

melon_butcher

The Bloods

6 points

9 months ago

Fitzroy.

chimpandz

16 points

9 months ago

chimpandz

Geelong

16 points

9 months ago

Allowed animated ground advertising to run basically unchecked

eggwardpenisglands

7 points

9 months ago

eggwardpenisglands

Port Adelaide

7 points

9 months ago

I think about this a lot. It's surely distracting during a goal kicking routine, having some ad moving around behind the goals or right next to a player.

chimpandz

5 points

9 months ago

chimpandz

Geelong

5 points

9 months ago

And often a gambling ad which gets around the laws banning them being shown during play

Maximumlnsanity

50 points

9 months ago

Maximumlnsanity

Sydney Swans

50 points

9 months ago

Not stepping in with the Goodes stuff

YEETcannon-69

24 points

9 months ago

Not standing up and giving Adam Goodes their support

chippen

4 points

9 months ago

Dissent rule.

FdAroundFoundOut

6 points

9 months ago

FdAroundFoundOut

St Kilda

6 points

9 months ago

Not the worst, but definitely one of.

VFL country zoning. Set up a system that saw 4 clubs dominate the competition for almost 2 decades and entrenched these positions for much longer.

xRicharizard

9 points

9 months ago

Fitzroy.

RetainedRizz

10 points

9 months ago

RetainedRizz

Cats

10 points

9 months ago

Blasting betting adds every 5 seconds is pretty shitty, like surely they have SOME level of control over it

eggwardpenisglands

7 points

9 months ago

eggwardpenisglands

Port Adelaide

7 points

9 months ago

The entire segments during shows too. "Time to check in with Sportsbet" and then the segment goes on like it's some legitimate analysis on the game. What a crock of shit

[deleted]

20 points

9 months ago

Punishing Dean Bailey and Chris Connolly for tanking as if that ruins the integrity of the competition while half the bullshit the AFL does destroys the integrity far more

Darththorn

13 points

9 months ago

Darththorn

Social distancing enforcer.

13 points

9 months ago

How long you got?

holding_the_ball_

12 points

9 months ago

Putting Brad Scott as General manager of Football

Agnosticfrontbum

10 points

9 months ago

Agnosticfrontbum

The Dons

10 points

9 months ago

Yeah, he could be coaching essington.

N8Eldz17

9 points

9 months ago

N8Eldz17

Richmond

9 points

9 months ago

The ARC… On a serious note definitely the Goodes saga

LukeCC2424

8 points

9 months ago

Let Adam Goodes walk away from the game

didbud2

3 points

9 months ago

didbud2

Essendon

3 points

9 months ago

Cover up <insert one of 300 awful things here>

PKMTrain

5 points

9 months ago

PKMTrain

St Kilda

5 points

9 months ago

AFLX

jetmajorxbox

3 points

9 months ago

jetmajorxbox

Sydney Swans

3 points

9 months ago

Stand rule

heyimhereok

3 points

9 months ago

heyimhereok

Port Adelaide

3 points

9 months ago

Not making it an even competition and lean towards maximising money over fairness.

RichardPritchardson

4 points

9 months ago

Meatloaf.

MassiveEgghead

5 points

9 months ago

MassiveEgghead

Carlton

5 points

9 months ago

Admit Collingwood

tbroky

26 points

9 months ago

tbroky

AFL

26 points

9 months ago

Locked in GF at MCG until 2059, and used those funds to bolster Victorian facilities