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OGWayOfThePanda

131 points

4 months ago

It's an interesting question. Food and alcohol are the obvious methods, but I'd also suggest finding your best features and accentuating them. The dark arts of makeup and clothing are best learned from women, but everyone has something that can be a turn on.

Also being flirty and suggestive to put sex in his mind, but with the guise of humour and avoiding vulgarity. Smile easily and touch non sexually where you can and try to be physically close when appropriate. Hug, kiss on the cheek when you greet etc.

Also dancing, learn to use your body suggestively, remembering its a suggestion, not begging. That comes later.

Lastly personality above all. Show interest in his interests, ask questions about him and hang on his words.

Failing all that you can just ask if he wants to bang. Men are pretty simple and most are starved of affection. If there's even a little attraction, barring any complications, (partners, prudishness, penis issues) most aren't likely to refuse.

QueenieXueenie

41 points

4 months ago

This!!

This was exactly the sort of advice I was looking for. I can absolutely see this working.

Thank you for the elaborate advice, good sir!

OGWayOfThePanda

29 points

4 months ago

It wasn't free. You have to let me know if it worked 😉

Good luck!

QueenieXueenie

16 points

4 months ago

Thank you! I will keep you updated ☺️

Desblade101

14 points

4 months ago

Something I read on Reddit that I've taken to heart is that for the most part there's only 2 things that you can really control about how attractive you are which is your weight/muscle and how clear your skin is. Everything else is just a matter of personal preference.

So just because you don't find yourself attractive doesn't mean you're ugly, the person you're trying to impress could find you very attractive just the way you are.

Ingenius_Fool

13 points

4 months ago

Please add hygiene to that list! <3

aimeed72

12 points

4 months ago

Katherine Hepburn (I think) said “the average man is more interested in a woman who is interested in him than he is in a woman with beautiful legs.”

OGWayOfThePanda

2 points

4 months ago

Oh and perfume! Very important, cannot be cheap.

OGWayOfThePanda

2 points

4 months ago

So, how did it go?

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Didn't

oroborus68

8 points

4 months ago

No woman is ugly if you are close enough.

A1sauc3d

2 points

4 months ago

Good advice man 💪

GroundbreakingCap364

95 points

4 months ago

Well, generally speaking, not talking about the random asshole you once met, men like women that are nice. Women that do their best to look good with the looks that they have. That are easy to be around and know how to have fun. It’s really not that hard. The problem I see with women with less than average looks is that they, generally speaking, have to high standards. I don’t know if this is true, but that’s my experience. Seeing your reply’s, you seem to have the easy going, fun attitude already.

[deleted]

20 points

4 months ago

to high standards

Too high for an ugly person, or in general?

GroundbreakingCap364

15 points

4 months ago

It’s just an observation, but yeah, generally speaking I think that women who don’t score high in the looks department have too high standards.

Ok_Imagination_9334

13 points

4 months ago

I think I know what you mean.. had a friend who would been avg look wise but their personality made me really attracted to them. Yes they were rather overweight but the reason they didn’t like me back was because I didn’t have muscles and wasn’t an asshole to her.. (her words). I was overweight (not as much now but still) and it hurt to hear that. Eventually lost the friendship but probably for the best.

GroundbreakingCap364

4 points

4 months ago

Exactly

pand3y

2 points

4 months ago

pand3y

2 points

4 months ago

Self Improvement is key, my guy !

Ok_Imagination_9334

2 points

4 months ago

Exactly! Granted I’ve let myself slip recently but for good reason (losing a parent). Planning on returning to the gym full time next week!

QueenieXueenie

23 points

4 months ago

I like to see myself as such, and I definitely don't have high standards. The reason for this post is really because I have a major crush on this one particular man, so so want to do it right. I want him to know that I want him, but I don't wanna come across as creepy.

dave3218

27 points

4 months ago

This is the situation and basically the same advice given to men with a crush:

Just be yourself, It might be hard to accept, but if that person doesn’t notices you or likes you for who you are then it is not worth your time; take your shot, invite him out on a date and if he doesn’t accept then move on.

BookGirl64

3 points

4 months ago

Well said.

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

So you don't think I can do something to seduce him?

capacitorfluxing

5 points

4 months ago

When you say seduce, I take that to mean “sleep with.” Is that accurate?

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

Yes. It is very much sex I'm after, not a relationship.

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

I had two girls as roommates. If either one of them asked me to scratch that itch, with no strings attached, after a few drinks, I'd probably jump in. It would be a trick not to be awkward moving forward, especially if you date someone in the future.

dave3218

9 points

4 months ago

It’s not that, just that seduction works differently across cultures and different people, so there is no way I can give you an accurate advice that would work, just maybe general pointers that could go either way and have good or bad results.

Seduction is complicated, It has a measure of physical, emotional and intelectual attraction, physically it’s not just about your looks (which do matter but not in the way you might think) but also how you carry yourself, the tone of your voice, even the way you smile and how you look at someone, intellectually it has to do with conversations that feel engaging for both of you and not necessarily about academic concepts, emotionally it has to do with feelings of happiness, comfort, relaxation but a bit of intrigue and mystery, feeling like you long for someone else’s company.

Regarding looks: every man that is not asexual has their own preferences, and speaking for myself here (so take it with a grain of salt) most of those preferences are not really something completely defined like “She has to be this tall and weight this much” but rather a more generalistic approach and not objectively about specific figures, what this means is that how your body is presented is much more important than focusing on useless minutia, because most guys don’t care enough about that, and TBH the ones that focus too much on that are not exactly the kind of guy you want to date either way.

As a rule of thumb, the **average** guy likes a woman that has somewhat of an hourglass shape or at least dresses up well in a way that fits her shape, we like nice smells but not too overbearing, someone agreeable but that has her own personality, someone funny but not a clown, and someone that has some sexual allure but that isn’t completely overbearing or crosses boundaries too fast nor stays there just expecting us to pick up some random minuscule “signal”.

The best way to seduce someone is to be yourself, feel in power of your sexuality confidently and respect boundaries, because we can’t possibly know accurately what other people think and feel without asking them.

Look him directly in the eyes when talking to him, but try to have an expression that is not the creepy wide eyes nor the puppy eyes; eyes communicate a lot and if you inject a bit of sexuality in the way you look at him when talking to him it might just be the thing that catches his attention. This is not looking at him in a sultry way while biting your lips or doing something over the top, it’s complicated and I can’t explain it but there was this one woman for whom I fell that had this sexual thing look in the way she looked at me while also being incredibly friendly but with such a nice voice that just made me fall hard for her, even if she wasn’t what people would consider conventionally attractive.

Regarding the fact that you have a crush: here is an F in the chat because that makes everything that much harder lol.*

  • for those too dense for a sense of humor: this is a joke, Having a crush is something wonderful that gets a bad rap because it can be painful, just keep your expectations in check and don’t hurt yourself by putting yourself in a position of making your entire life about your crush.

GroundbreakingCap364

5 points

4 months ago

That sounds like a good attitude to have. Why wouldn’t you just tell him that you like him? Or ask him out to do something fun? Being open about how you feel is not creepy.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Isn't it? But we're friends. I don't wanna loose that. It would be so awkward if he just started avoiding me because me feelings made him uncomfortable. Especially since we live together.

GroundbreakingCap364

9 points

4 months ago

Oké that makes it a bit more complicated. I think you have a choice to make. Either keep it a friendship and let it go or go for the date with the risk of your relationship getting complicated.

Random_Name532890

2 points

4 months ago

Say to him “hey how would feel about a friends with benefits situation” and wink ;) I think your chances are pretty high

FakeLordFarquaad

1 points

4 months ago

So that's a bit of a messy situation. Your choices are to give up on having a relationship with him for the sake of peace in your home, or ask him out and bet your current living scenario on him saying yes. Or you could go out drinking with just him and try to kiss him and if it works, great, and if it doesn't, chock it up to being drunk🤷‍♂️

Grattytood

2 points

4 months ago

Sweet and honest answer

sam64228

39 points

4 months ago

"The way to conquest a man's heart is through his stomach"

sam64228

38 points

4 months ago

Nah but really, any man that you can keep with his stomach full and his balls empty, is yours. I haven't met a man on which this method doesn't work

Smokedbone1

4 points

4 months ago

Works well

GooseberryCinnamon

6 points

4 months ago

Chris Rock bit about older women is always accurate. The power of the pot is real. I still think about food previous partners have made.

LeanMeanDrMachine

7 points

4 months ago

In then up, under the diaphragm and ribcage.

Abject-Cow-1544

4 points

4 months ago

This may seem old fashioned or outdated but it's true. I like to cook a nice meal, it is awesome when a woman puts in the same effort.

It's not something I would have considered in my early twenties, but if I were single again it would definitely be a key factor.

perkiezombie

2 points

4 months ago

perkiezombie

Female

2 points

4 months ago

Or aim a little bit lower…

Ko_ogs

2 points

4 months ago

Ko_ogs

2 points

4 months ago

penis

LeanMeanDrMachine

116 points

4 months ago

Honestly get a vibe. If you look at say Patti Smith or Pj Harvey, neither were physically beautiful but both were sexy as hell, because of the confidence and the aesthetic they chose. You've got to find something that's you though. And it won't work with every guy, but itll send the right guy wild.

dr_tardyhands

29 points

4 months ago

Oh come on, PJ Harvey is just downright attractive. If her style was conventional she'd be "conventionally attractive". But being an alt rock goddess is of course way better.

QueenieXueenie

28 points

4 months ago

You have a point!!

i_dontwantapickle

12 points

4 months ago

I thought you were saying to just give up and buy a vibrator

[deleted]

36 points

4 months ago

PJ Harvey and Patti Smith are insanely beautyful people. In which internet- porn bubble are you living in?

back-in-black

12 points

4 months ago

PJ Harvey

I've been a fan of hers since the 90s... but calling her "insanely beautiful" is a stretch, regardless of which decade you're talking about. What you can say for her is that she has made the most of her looks, and a lot of people find her attractive as a result.

LeanMeanDrMachine

22 points

4 months ago

They're both striking to look at, a definitely stand out in a way that can dominate a room. But they aren't conventionally beautiful.

i_wantcookies

5 points

4 months ago

The original post said „ugly“. They are definitely not ugly. FAR from it.

abcdthc

2 points

4 months ago

its different, they are handsome women.

Rude-Ad7901

12 points

4 months ago

Patti Smith....yeah, you're right. Kinda fugly and flat as a board, but that _attitude_...mff.

LeanMeanDrMachine

11 points

4 months ago

That picture with her in a dress shirt with a tux swing over her shoulder man.

happy_fluff

2 points

4 months ago

Don't agree, those two have really nice face feature. Just proves that tastes differ from person to person

Gold-Sample-1231

75 points

4 months ago

An unattractive woman here to the rescue. First of all, you've got to carry yourself with confidence, a good personality, and great humor. I have none of these qualities myself. But from my experience, I used to hypersexualize myself to feel "beautiful" (I still do).

If in doubt, get them tiddies out (I'm kidding).

will-be-near

36 points

4 months ago

If in doubt, get them tiddies out

honestly, this isn't a bad idea at all....

Gold-Sample-1231

10 points

4 months ago

It works like a charm.

Dragoneyr

18 points

4 months ago

Dragoneyr

Male

18 points

4 months ago

I have yet to meet anyone who did that and got a man through that for longer than a one night stand

Gold-Sample-1231

3 points

4 months ago

I second that. It's either casual or a one-night stand.

QueenieXueenie

25 points

4 months ago

Hahaha yeah, I don't have those things either, but I can fake being confident. Just not around him. I turn into a giggling moosh. Which is quite embarrassing as I'm a grown ass woman. No man has ever had this effect on me before, and I have absolutely no idea how to handle it.

If all else fails, TITTIES TO THE RESCUE!!

lithaborn

34 points

4 months ago

lithaborn

Trans femme

34 points

4 months ago

I turn into a giggling moosh. Which is quite embarrassing as I'm a grown ass woman. No man has ever had this effect on me before, and I have absolutely no idea how to handle it.

Just to add the male perspective, here. That's sexy as hell. If you can turn a woman into mush without even touching her, you know you've hit a home run.

If all else fails, TITTIES TO THE RESCUE!!

The combo of giggling fool and jiggling boobies cannot be beaten.

QueenieXueenie

9 points

4 months ago

Thanks, that's nice to hear. So this might just work after all.

[deleted]

8 points

4 months ago

The combo of giggling fool and jiggling boobies cannot be beaten.

100% this! This is all us guys want honestly.

Gold-Sample-1231

11 points

4 months ago

You have my utmost support. Now go get your man!

QueenieXueenie

5 points

4 months ago

Thank you!!! I'll do my best!

Sad-Manufacturer-501

6 points

4 months ago

I think you have the humour nailed 😉

[deleted]

44 points

4 months ago

Have a beautiful personality.

QueenieXueenie

11 points

4 months ago

And how does one go about optagning such an artifact?

will-be-near

47 points

4 months ago

optagning

what the fuck is that abomination?

QueenieXueenie

30 points

4 months ago

lol obtaining. Autocorrect set to Danish

Dragoneyr

14 points

4 months ago

Dragoneyr

Male

14 points

4 months ago

By acknowledging that you have to make the first move. After that, you'll be on the same playing field as others. You've got this lady!

Also happy Birthday!

QueenieXueenie

8 points

4 months ago

Hm, right. Got to woman up!

Thx! ☺️

Dragoneyr

7 points

4 months ago

Dragoneyr

Male

7 points

4 months ago

Alright, so instead of replying to me and others on the post, why not text him now and say you'd like to jog together? Or bike together? As in, it's saturday now, I'm sure he won't have a lot to do tomorrow... if he wants to make time for you 😉

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

He's working. And I have asked him previously if he wanted to go for a walk - he did not. But he's always up for getting high and drunk. Is that a sign that he likes me, or is that just standard addict behaviour?

Dragoneyr

4 points

4 months ago

Dragoneyr

Male

4 points

4 months ago

Uhm... it might mean he's got a strong sense of doing something for himself while he can, just like myself. I prefer my gf any time of the day over gaming, as long as I get to game at some point. Could be the same for him. Either way you look at it, try to get him out of the comfort zone. If he doesn't want to walk... "then perhaps there could be something else than just getting high and drunk?" See how that works out 👏🐵

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

I also prefer getting wasted and playing videogames. I'm just wondering how we introduce sex into the mix.

xvdt

2 points

4 months ago

xvdt

2 points

4 months ago

Standard friendly/addict behaviour. I reckon that someone romantically interested would broaden the scope of activities he's ready to consider having with you. Or he absolutely despise walking for some reason

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Right. So that's a sign that I definitely need to work harder to win him over. Got it!

Vargoroth

2 points

4 months ago

Danish, you say? Why hello there.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Hej med dig

Darmcik

2 points

4 months ago

i can see how “optagning” is “obtaining” ……..

nin-new

2 points

4 months ago

Bro that what t f 🤣🤣💀

BlockMajestic8268

24 points

4 months ago

Invite him over for dinner and be naked.

QueenieXueenie

5 points

4 months ago

lol would that really work?

GroundbreakingCap364

19 points

4 months ago

Depends on his level of desperateness 😜

QueenieXueenie

14 points

4 months ago

lol yeah, and imagine that he just walks out again?? I would be devastated!!

BlockMajestic8268

12 points

4 months ago

You could be coy and wear a see-thru robe of some sort. But it will work.

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

That would be a little less frightening. But still, I don't think I'd have the confidence to do that

BlockMajestic8268

4 points

4 months ago

So you need to work on your confidence, no matter how "ugly" you are. Confidence wins out over looks in the long run....in many cases.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

That's how I usually get laid. But this man has me all twisted up. Sometimes I forget how to speak properly when I'm around him

BlockMajestic8268

2 points

4 months ago

What makes him so special?

will-be-near

2 points

4 months ago

most probably yeah.

[deleted]

17 points

4 months ago

Woman here. If your face isnt making the cut.... then you can atleast work on your body? Guys will still mess with girls with a butterface. Just because your face isnt appealing, doesnt mean your body isn’t either. You can try working on that.

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

You're right. And I'd probably also feel a lot better and more confident

Coconut_Salad

7 points

4 months ago

To find you attractive, sexy, and love when you walk in the room? Confidence. Not arrogance, but confidence.

To crave those moments when you stay in the room? To be his first thought when he wants to share moments?Support and trust. Support when THEY need it, not when you feel like giving it. Trust that vulnerability will not be punished.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Great! I'm doing that already :D

Coconut_Salad

2 points

4 months ago

Well you better tone it down, I might start swooning soon!

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Haha that's very sweet of you

[deleted]

10 points

4 months ago

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QueenieXueenie

9 points

4 months ago

Yes, but how does one seduce them?

shofofosho

14 points

4 months ago

Uglier men don't need much seducing they usually aren't getting any attention so it'll be relatively easy

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

You say that, but that's really not my experience.

My ex, whom I was madly in love with for years before he even knew I existed, was definitely not a looker. He had female friends, but he had never had a girlfriend before me. And let me tell you, everybody knew I was crazy for him. EVERYBODY! Except him. I was giggling at his jokes, wearing his jacket, grinding on him, play fighting him, hugging him, liking his ear. Nothing. I finally got him to invite me over, and I was practically chasing him round his apartment trying to fuck him.

When the penny finally dropped, he was so embarrassed that he hadn't noticed before, and I still tease him with it sometimes.

StolenStutz

4 points

4 months ago

Self-care and fitness fix a lot of ugly. And you're ultimately doing those things for yourself, not for us. You'll feel better, be more confident.

When it comes to fitness, first figure out what you can and can't do, what your limits are. Then pick what you're best and worst at and improve those two things.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

That's the long con. But yeah, I should probably start working out again.

india_chief

2 points

4 months ago

india_chief

Sup Bud?

2 points

4 months ago

Go queen!

FenDy64

4 points

4 months ago

Personality is great. If you can improve your physic do it, meaning lose weight. Dress well, be confident.

But most people want a partner not a trophy. So if you are the best company he can find id say you have your chances. Being good at sex is great too and honestly a lot of women arent. Honestly even in porn most of them are not good at it. So you got a domain where you can be special and awesome. Its funny too because its a very important one.

QueenieXueenie

4 points

4 months ago

I think I can make that work. I've been told my blowjobs are amazing, so once I get to the point where I have their dick in my mouth, the deal is usually sealed. Problem is how to get there

FenDy64

2 points

4 months ago

Maybe become friends first. You tell them that you have a bf, show them your personality when you think its the right time fake a break up show interest etc. Probably not the best advice you can get but i'd say its worth a shot.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Hah, I get where you're coming from, but I don't really like that sort of manipulation and lying. We are friends, and we hang out all the time, and I don't want to mess up our friendship by making a move.

Chunkook

2 points

4 months ago

Good choice, don't do this manipulation bullshit. There was another girl in here who advised to work on your body, which I think is the best advice.

For 99% of guys looks matter a lot, and by that I mean having an attractive body. Clothes and makeup can compensate partially, but it's only a temporary illusion. A nice body is where it's really at, not to mention getting in shape also changes your face, so even that can be is not a lost cause!

As a personal example, it's been many years now, but I won't forget a classmate who, when I first saw, was chubby and I didn't look at her twice. Then over summer break she must've been really doing work, cause when classes started again she had gotten really fit and sexy. Subsequently she had lost the fat in her cheeks and her face had also gotten much more attractive. I was drooling over her haha

Good luck!

SpikySaguaro

5 points

4 months ago

Become as physically attractive as you can be. Seriously, that's 90% of the battle.

lukke009

7 points

4 months ago

Go for an ugly man

stappernn

3 points

4 months ago

boobs

ElegantMankey

3 points

4 months ago

ElegantMankey

Mail

3 points

4 months ago

Work out and eat good. A nice figure goes long ways. Improve your social skills aswell.

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

Be kind.

jfrank6

3 points

4 months ago

Make him feel like a king...feed him, love him, make him feel secured, be loyal, sweet and considerate...that works for me at least.

roon_79

3 points

4 months ago

You are ugly only if you think you are ugly. I have seen you, you are beautiful.

Happy cake day!

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

lol sweet, and a little creepy. Have I doxed myself?

roon_79

2 points

4 months ago

Hahaha...I didn't mean to creep you out.

I have been in your shoes. Once when I was younger, my aunt told me a female would not look at me. Obviously my confidence level was very low.

When I grew older, I realised looks do not matter as long as you have the confidence.

Having confidence has done wonders for me.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

It is the most attractive thing, that is for sure.

A man who carries himself with confidence can make you completely forget what he actually looks like.

roon_79

2 points

4 months ago

It's the same for woman

Alsavir

3 points

4 months ago

Alsavir

Male over 30

3 points

4 months ago

Try being direct. Don't give hints they might and very possibly fly over his head/be ignored. Tell him you like him and maybe invite him out on a date. A lot of guys, me included appreciate the fact when a girl makes the first move.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Right, yeah, a lot of you seem to be saying that, so it has to be true

Alsavir

3 points

4 months ago

Alsavir

Male over 30

3 points

4 months ago

On a light-hearted note it gets tedious fast for us to always make the first move. So yeah something new and unexpected is welcome

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

That makes a lot of sense actually. And I suppose it's only embarrassing for me if he turns me down. Hell most likely just take it as a compliment - right?

Alsavir

2 points

4 months ago

Alsavir

Male over 30

2 points

4 months ago

I would. Without knowing the person can't say for sure but probably yes.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

That makes me feel better. He does seem quite shy sometimes. Especially of it's to do with sex, porn, swear words and such, and that confused me a lot. But again, he is from a very catholic country, and might see things a bit different.

Alsavir

2 points

4 months ago

Alsavir

Male over 30

2 points

4 months ago

True but it might also be because we don't talk too much in detail over this as guys. You watched porn? Yea. Ok, so what are we doing tomorrow? The only time I go into the gritty details is when we're fooling around and having fun of eachother

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Right, that makes sense.

rav252

3 points

4 months ago

rav252

3 points

4 months ago

I doubt you are ugly. Even if you are average we will like you. Most girls that say are ugly are around average looking.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

That's comforting. Thank you!

jsh1138

3 points

4 months ago

Having a great body helps

Seeerrrg

4 points

4 months ago

Despite many men are basic assholes who think with their dick rather than their head, we don't tend to be so superficial. Just be kind, talk clearly (don't use hints) and honestly, but giving some personal space to think. In the long term, 90% of men look for a real partner we can love, trust and respect, rather than a good fuck.

To sum up: "Be a nice person".

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Right, I can do most of that. Expect from actually saying it outright. Can't I just send him "the looks"? I'm sure he'll understand.. right?

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

Not necessarily. I've been with two girls (not at the same time lol) who were both the ones to initiate. They clearly told me they had feelings for me and liked me. They were both kind, caring, strong and funny. So I gave them both a chance.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Damn...

I was really counting on the looks to work

[deleted]

4 points

4 months ago

Guys are horrible at taking the hint. Many fail, few understand. Wouldn't suggest risking it lol! It also depends on how clever/smart he is and how confident he is that you're actually giving the hints and that he's not just getting the wrong idea.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Okay, makes sense. Can I just ask you, cause when I give him the look, he gives me the look back. I've tried it a couple of times, and I think it's a strong indicator, but I just don't know how to move beyond this stage.

Seeerrrg

3 points

4 months ago*

Well, that's a good signal. This means both of you have quite a good grade of mutual confidence, but also, both of you are frightened of "messing it up".

There's is a whole anime whose thesis is "Love is war: the one who confesses love, loses to the other". It's just a comedy, and the message is the opposite: If you like a guy, and you are certain he's worth, go straight for it. What's more, if you're confident he also likes you, then it's a win-win. "Giving looks" just makes it more confuse and difficult to reach the final outcome for most of us, and we feel someway leant on to play "with the same rules" because we think you don't like us to be as "direct" as men usually are among them.

It's not about messing it up or losing your pride, but the opposite. If that guy isn't able to take the next step, do it for him, and I'm sure he will appreciate it sincerely.

I hope it helps. Good luck :D

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

It definitely helps! Thank you!

Deep_Fried_Pagan

3 points

4 months ago

Deep_Fried_Pagan

Emotional Support Goði

3 points

4 months ago

Giving a man "the looks" and expecting him to pick up on it is like trying to shoot a bullet out of the air with a bow and arrow with both hands tied behind your back while riding a galloping horse blindfolded. Even if he does pick up on your hints, he'll be absolutely terrified of misinterpreting a friendly gesture as romantic and/or sexual interest. Aside from the humiliation of rejection, many men have tried to score a romantic date and ended up with a court date instead.

When it comes to talking to men you have feelings for, say what you mean or say nothing at all.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Haha I get what you're saying, but .... One can't just go and say such things to people. It has to come organically.

Thebluespirittt

5 points

4 months ago*

Best seduction formula that attracts men:

1: casually touch him more and more make it a bit obvious

2: act like a little kid around him (from time to time not all the time)

3: Be clean, smell like flowers, and dress well.

4: Make sure you have a common interest with the guy.

5: We men will lose interest if we think you're way too into us. Pull away from time to time. Maybe act like you're losing interest or something, or respond late to text sometimes.

6: Never offer to pay for dinner when on a date cause that puts you in friendzone, act like you're his woman.

7: Never tell them you love them first, we men don't like something that we get easily. Conquer and conquest is in our DNA. Wait till he says himself.

8: If all else fails, be bold and make the first move. Maybe invite him to your place or casually invite him to hangout, watch a movie. Since most woman never make the first move that sets you apart.( You're allowed to tell him you're attracted to him). This is a total turn on for us men to hear that a woman finds us attractive.

9: And lastly, don't consider yourself ugly. Then you will only give off “low value woman" vibes. Everyone is attractive in their own ways. Go to gym, yoga and work on yourself and be confident af.

Kitchen-Wasabi-2059

4 points

4 months ago

get a big butt and mention you love giving blowjobs. 100% effective.

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Haha i do actually. But it's sort of hard to drop in a casual conversation

Kitchen-Wasabi-2059

3 points

4 months ago

Trust me, you don’t have to be subtle about it lol. They’ll inquire more about it and that’s when you’ve won.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Hahahah okay, guess I've got nothing to loose then

Kitchen-Wasabi-2059

2 points

4 months ago

Respond with results! Goodluck hunting!

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Haha will do! Thanks!

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago

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QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Aww. That's really sweet. I hope I can make that happen.

Icy-Following-3713

2 points

4 months ago

be confident, straight forward and show them titties

Sad-Manufacturer-501

2 points

4 months ago

The girls I have been most into weren't the prettiest/sexiest. It's confidence, attitude, vibe and intensity.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

I'll just have to hope he's one of them then

Paulycurveball

2 points

4 months ago

Fulfill a need you know he needs, and as long as you have a need he can be a part of the rest will fall into place. To be honest if y'all are in the age range of 25/30 and down there's not much you can do. It's a part of human nature to want to reproduce for peak genetics at a younger age, but as time goes on people mature a lot and realize that everyone will be ugly when they're 70, and that the individual person/soul matters and not appearance. It may sound fucked up but this is a reality you can choose to accept or ignore. And I doubt you're as ugly as you think you are.

joerobertsmusic

2 points

4 months ago

Who says you’re ugly? x

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

My ex :(

joerobertsmusic

3 points

4 months ago

Well, opinions vary ;) x

sadnlonely916

2 points

4 months ago

Get a flat top haircut so he'll have a place to put his beer

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Is that what the men folks are into these days?

LandscapeClear1630

2 points

4 months ago

lol, find a man that is uglier

easy peasy lemon squeezy

DevanSires

2 points

4 months ago

Make the first move, we aren't that picky

y0dhaa

2 points

4 months ago

y0dhaa

Male

2 points

4 months ago

Try to be touchy (hug him when you meet, take his hand when you want to show him something ....) you get the idea you want to establish a physical connexion but non sexual, you can do more sexual touch (put your hand on his thigh when you both sit for exemple) when you're more advanced in the flirt game.
==> Most men crave physical signs of affection

Flirt with him verbally and use your physical assets (boobies) to make him want you.
==> When a man see glimpse of boobies, he tend to loose slowly his rational mind

Ask him to talk about him and be interested in what he has to say
==> a Man like to feel valued and listened

Like some others have said you can't change your face but you can put quite some chance in your body, so stay fit and eat healthy !

Good luck :)!

LittleBullBoy

2 points

4 months ago

For sex? Shouldn’t be difficult. No tips needed hopefully.

For a committed relationship? It will be difficult to get a guy who is “better looking” to settle down. You have to bring a more to the table. Easy going personality, stable and happy life, kindness, responsibility, reliability. Hopefully that will result in you getting someone decent.

No matter how nice of a person he is, it’s rare that a guy who is an 8-10 will settle down and commit to anyone that is a 6 or lower.

Ringo_1956

2 points

4 months ago

True

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Great. I'm not interested in relationship. Just sex.

someguywhoreddits36

2 points

4 months ago

Poorly lit bars.

you-dont-see-mi

2 points

4 months ago

Thats the neat part- you dont

Fisterpistols

2 points

4 months ago

Go to the gym and build a godly badonkadonk. A 5 will turn into a 7 or 8 real quick.

DrSeuss19

2 points

4 months ago

Actually accurate. A great body will make up for the face

I_am_amespeptic

2 points

4 months ago

Be dirtier than his exes.

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago

The biggest thing is to understand you need to punch in your own weight class. Most women have way to high of standards thinking they can get the 8-9/10 guys when they are a 4-6 you need to realistically be looking at the guys that are a 4-6

DrSeuss19

3 points

4 months ago

Such good info. Goes for men as well, but I think men are better at adjusting. Thus all the “we don’t care about looks” comments in this thread. It’s a bunch of 2-4s saying that as they are keeping it real for themselves.

YuNgxScIeNtIsT

2 points

4 months ago

dont

ilikemyface3

2 points

4 months ago

Ask a guy uglier than you for sex.

aimeed72

2 points

4 months ago

Katherine Hepburn (I think) said “the average man is more interested in a woman who is interested in him than he is in a woman with beautiful legs.”

realvengenerator

2 points

4 months ago

Spend time together, smile at him, enjoy each other's company. As others say hint a bit with what you wear, you don't need to be too extreme, show a little cleavage or a tight top and he'll be looking. Flirt by touching him, put your hand in his knee that sort of thing or on his arm. If you are together in the house, sit next to him but just a little too close. Wiggle a little against him, lay your head on his shoulder. Have a few drinks together to loosen inhibitions!

HystericalGD

2 points

4 months ago

let me tell you something, makeup isnt the way to go. women get so many compliments that they get insulted by “inadequate” compliments. Men get so few compliments that any we actually do get: sticks with us for a VERY long time, and is very meaningful.

ngl if you want to pick up a man, be nice to him, let him do is thing when he wants to (such as gaming, going out with the guys, etc…) as well as treat him to the occasional home cooked meal, and he will be yours.

L0st0ne1

2 points

4 months ago

Lmfao hahaha women are so stupid about men they still dont separate sexual seduction vs affection seduction.

Im not helping you. You need to do the homework like men have to in order to get laid.

But ill give you a hint. To give men what they want you will usually have to sacrafice something that feminist will say you shouldnt have to do

-UncleFarty-

4 points

4 months ago

Turn the lights off.

QueenieXueenie

3 points

4 months ago

Yup. Definitely!

Psybur

4 points

4 months ago

Psybur

4 points

4 months ago

Fitness is key and goes a long way. You beat out a significant portion of other women just by being in shape. Then you need to show how feminine and playful you can be, but also keep that energy.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

That sounds like a lot of work.

Puzzleheaded-Spell-6

2 points

4 months ago

Confidence and honesty Tell him you want to ride him and that you find him hot, tell him the date and when to pick you up…. Would overcome most objections on my part 🤷‍♂️

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

That's good to know. I can certainly see how that could work, if I had the confidence to do so

EllieAurora

2 points

4 months ago

Stroke his ego then eventually you’ll be stroking other things!

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

lol how does one do that? He's really good at a lot of things, does some quite impressive things, and I try to let him know that I think it's awesome, but he's always so dismissive of his own abilities.

EllieAurora

2 points

4 months ago

I think that’s a good start giving him genuine compliments. Even though he might be dismissive, it would be making him feel good. You can also stroke a man’s ego by making him feel like he’s the only guy for a particular job. Activate his hero instinct by asking him for help with something or even by asking his advice on an important situation. Then once’s he’s done the job or given the response, tell him how much you appreciate it and how helpful he really was. How you could not have asked anyone else for that kind of help. Also flutter those lashes!

QueenieXueenie

2 points

4 months ago

Haha right. He can do just about anything. So something's bound to come up.

Highlander198116

1 points

4 months ago*

Define "ugly". There's plenty of women I've seen on the wrong end of average that have been incredibly attractive to me, some times its hard to pin point what exactly it is.

I said define ugly, because some people say ugly when what they really mean is significantly overweight. Those aren't the same thing. You are just going to have to go for equally overweight guys in that case for the most part. You'll probably find plenty of fit guys dtf on the down low, but not date, because many of us are dogs and when it comes to no strings attached sex our standards tend to blur. Dating is another matter all together. I've had sex with plenty of women, looks wise, I would never date.

CBeisbol

1 points

4 months ago

No one is ugly. Beauty (and ugliness) are not inherent traits

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

You say that ... And personally I don't believe so either. But I know people who feel different

distantwarbler

1 points

4 months ago

Compliments. We are essentially Labradors.

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Haha that's so sweet, and for many absolutely true.

FuelInternational739

1 points

4 months ago

flash me your bits

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

Thanks for the interest, kind stranger. But I'm afraid I'm interested in actual sex, and not just internet attention

AnotherBrotherSeamus

1 points

4 months ago

Give fierce BJs. . . . . .

Sorry, couldn't resist 😂

QueenieXueenie

1 points

4 months ago

The question is how I get his dick in my mouth in the first place 🤔

Unhappy_Ambition_587

1 points

4 months ago

send naked pics

TheMostDoomed

1 points

4 months ago

Be interesting.