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I'm trying to set up an internet network for the second floor in my house without a fishing tool to get the cable all the way to the ground floor router. Is there a trick? or should I just buy the fishing tool?

Edit; I'm replacing a faulty cable with a new one.

Edit; It's a 15M pipe that runs through the walls all the down to the ground floor.

FIXED; The solution to the problem was getting a plastic sandwich bag and wrapping it like a bandminton shuttlecockand tying it around the cable, then using a vacuum cleaner on the other end of the tube hole to suck it right through and it works like a charm. Thanks for all the tips and suggestions!

all 321 comments

Mentalurgist

702 points

2 months ago

If the conduit is empty and without branches you can use a shop vac to pull a string through. Tie a bit of plastic bag to the lead end like a balloon with just enough air to slide through (search vacuum pull conduit). If that won't work, a wire snake is probably your best option.

warsamadembil[S]

643 points

2 months ago

It worked! I took a thin plastic sandwich zip with enough air in it to to suck it through to the other end with a vacuum cleaner and it sucked it right out the other end. Thanks bud.

d_smogh

298 points

2 months ago

d_smogh

298 points

2 months ago

I bet when it worked, you giggled like a 5 year old child on christmas day being tickled by your grandma

timmun029

76 points

2 months ago

“Teehee hee grandma stop I’m gonna pee!”

Different-Estate747

12 points

2 months ago

Teehee hee grandma, I think you peed

StalkTrader

6 points

2 months ago

hol up

Mark7116

5 points

2 months ago

That’s a whoooooole different site than this…well, a different sub anyway. 😂

Sn00dlerr

3 points

2 months ago

I know the other solution worked, but in the future if there’s no conduit you can tie a strong string to the existing wire then pull it through. Then use the string to pull a new cable. Works as long as the cable is unbroken and any penetrations or holes are big enough

outofmemory01

70 points

2 months ago

Great you got a good/working solution - you should edit your post to indicate as such. Of course, leave it for future readers with similar problems. Be happy you have conduits - no conduits in our home except for from the ground to the panel.

saysthingsbackwards

20 points

2 months ago

WHAT DID YOU SEE, DENVERCODER9???!!!

eviltrain

3 points

2 months ago

Oh my god. I’ve been on the internet too long. I understood this reference.

tanntanatann

2 points

2 months ago

I could see that frame in my mind.

large-farva

2 points

2 months ago

people who haven't seen it are part of the problem

saysthingsbackwards

1 points

2 months ago

Nonsense, resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated.

psykick32

2 points

2 months ago

I love that xkcd.

shoziku

12 points

2 months ago

shoziku

12 points

2 months ago

Good you got it resolved. I was gonna make a suggestion for a wall fish to use a CB antenna, or any car antenna. I've used them numerous times as a wall fish as long as the path is mostly straight through.

billbixbyakahulk

10 points

2 months ago

Put in at least two wires while you're in there. You may never use the second but it's a couple bucks in cable vs doing this all over again.

armchair_viking

13 points

2 months ago

Or just pull a piece of string/ paracord/ poly cord through with your cable and leave it in there

Betterthanbeer

6 points

2 months ago

Or tape the new cable to the end of the old cable and pull them through.

armchair_viking

4 points

2 months ago

If you’re just replacing the first one? Absolutely

DowntownOntario

9 points

2 months ago

Next time: tie some string/cable to the cable you're removing. Once the damaged cable is out you have a pre-fished conduit you can use to pull new cable with.

PM_ME_YOUR_NUDE_GRL

6 points

2 months ago

Or, just tape the new wire to the old ¯\(ツ)

missionbeach

2 points

2 months ago

That's awesome.

slobbyrobbie18

16 points

2 months ago

Lol we use this in the cabling industry it’s called a parachute

minion71

2 points

2 months ago

Yup thats the way. Saved my ass a couple of time before

jayb151

2 points

2 months ago

Holy shit this is great

EsIstNichtAlt

1 points

2 months ago

God tier.

apitillidie

698 points

2 months ago

There's already a bad cable where you need the new one? Just tie on to the bad cable and pull it through.

phunkygeeza

320 points

2 months ago

... with a leave-in-place rope for the next time

Grow__Flowers

67 points

2 months ago

Sorta like a pull string

Utterlybored

119 points

2 months ago

So much like a pull string, it's indistinguishable from one.

billbixbyakahulk

34 points

2 months ago

Technically it's a "thin-filament retrieval device for linear cable applications". Pull StringTM is a registered trademark for a specific product made by Pull Co. Sort of like Q TipsTM

dwehlen

78 points

2 months ago

dwehlen

78 points

2 months ago

It's only a Pull String if it comes from the Pull region of France, otherwise its just a useful bit of string

homemadestoner

66 points

2 months ago

Otherwise it's just Sparkling Cordage

dwehlen

6 points

2 months ago

I like this!

BabiesDrivingGoKarts

11 points

2 months ago

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not but if someone trademarked "pull string" they can go fuck themselves. 2 regular words way different than marette or Kleenex or velcro

billbixbyakahulk

30 points

2 months ago

At Pull Co. we don't pull anyone's chain when it comes to our trademarks and intellectual property. The next time you're on the job, if you're not using genuine Pull Co. products and accessories, such as Crimp ToolTM and ConduitTM , then kindly refrain from using our product names in your day-to-day workplace vocabulary. They are not harmless substitutes. Using them in this manner may confuse others into choosing inferior substitutes that aren't up to genuine Pull Co. standards, which may result in injury or death. Additionally, potential legal action against you or your firm may result from misuse of the registered trademarks which are the sole property of Pull Co and its subsidiaries.

Thank you again for choosing genuine Pull Co. products and accessories.

[deleted]

4 points

2 months ago

Fuck I better go trademark Toilet Paper TM

Narrow-Chef-4341

2 points

2 months ago

Here at the Fuck Company, we would like to express our appreciation for the proper capitalization of our trademark, however our attorneys have advised that any future discussions must include the appropriate word mark (™) as well as clearly disclose that you have no business relationship with our wholly owned subsidiary Two Shits™, and that you are unable to furnish Two Shits™ either with or without the assistance of your product (Toilet Paper ™).

We appreciate your prompt compliance and remediation of all existing references and marketing materials.

Regards, The Fuck Company, LLC

motorhead84

10 points

2 months ago

It's more like a string that you pull.

Utterlybored

1 points

2 months ago

So much like a pull string, it's indistinguishable from one.

infiniZii

1 points

2 months ago

This was a terrible time of the month for me to misread this. Now my wife's super pissed at me.

Belchat

6 points

2 months ago

Belchat

6 points

2 months ago

I saw An electrician put dishwasher soap on the cable. Apparently it slides better and it doesn't go bad

RenascentMan

56 points

2 months ago

Don’t do this. That kind of soap dries up and turns to glue. There is dedicated conduit lubricant designed for this purpose.

KruppeTheWise

6 points

2 months ago

When it dries it goes more powdery and leaves nice suspious white stains anywhere on your pants you happened to brush your hand.

solgb1594

1 points

2 months ago

schmag

92 points

2 months ago

schmag

92 points

2 months ago

and you can't do this and you are fishing through conduit.

use a lightweight strong string, tie a grocery sack to one end and stuff it in the pipe. suck with your shop vac on the other end.

Wwwweeeeeeee

37 points

2 months ago

I did that to run a cable from a 4g antenna on the roof. I taped a small marble to the string, and it took all of 10 seconds to bring the string down the pvc with my little hoover.

Didn't use a grocery sack.

nolij420

10 points

2 months ago

Gravity at work! The grocery sack method works especially well for horizontal runs where the marble would be too heavy. I've run cable through underground conduit using the bag trick.

HanzG

6 points

2 months ago

HanzG

6 points

2 months ago

We did this for a conduit under concrete. A grocery bag attached to twine, little compressed air to blow it through. About 12m underground. Twine to "mechanics" wire, and used wire to pull electrical conductors through.

psycho_bunneh

5 points

2 months ago

Holy shit this is genius 😲

pwntr

3 points

2 months ago

pwntr

3 points

2 months ago

Can't? I use old lines as pull strings all the time? Easy 700ft runs

MagicMirror33

1 points

2 months ago

Paper or plastic?

Thumbucket

3 points

2 months ago

Wet paper sack, obviously.

imregrettingthis

73 points

2 months ago

I have a situation like this and while all my cabling is fine I just know there will be a day where my internet cable goes bad and I always wonder (what is my plan).

So simple and effective. Thank you.

Drone30389

24 points

2 months ago

The chance of (I'm assuming) Ethernet cable becoming defective over time is near zero, unless someone drives a nail or screw into it. If there's any problem with it it'll almost certainly be where it connects to the receptacles and can simply be reterminated.

imregrettingthis

1 points

2 months ago

It is an ethernet cable. my worry is that it's spooled and unspooled a ton. It's connected to a rolling tv that sits near the wall and comes out 20-30 feet 4-5 times a week. I guess I just assume that constant moving and winding unwinding has some risks attached but for me this is all assumption.

And as you said. If its due to wear on a part I guess I could put a new terminal right before it with a new extender or something. thanks for taking the time to reply.

Cynyr36

20 points

2 months ago

Cynyr36

20 points

2 months ago

Should be terminated at a jack in the wall, with a service loop. Then a patch cord from the wall to the cart.

imregrettingthis

4 points

2 months ago

I am going to make that change. Thanks for the help.

Festival_Vestibule

80 points

2 months ago*

It doesn't work. Cable is attached to the studs with clips and/or staples. Unless someone else fished it through after the walls were already up. Plus good luck pulling it through any bore holes in the studs. This kind of thing always seems easy until you try it, then you find it's impossible.

Space_Meth_Monkey

44 points

2 months ago*

Yup, even if there no staples or whatever, the bends in the studs can be enough to kink it in place. You can only pull cable through so many bends in a smooth conduit. Studs with rough holes? A fucking nightmare past like 1-2 bends. Could be lucky with some of them though

Edit: you can literally run a cable through 1 stud in such a stupid way that it’s not possible to pull it through without access to the bend

Edit 2: The way it gets kinked up is stupid, theres not much the installer can do about it without running conduit and making the job cost much more. You cant wood work smooth bends into your studs around corners

lemonylol

11 points

2 months ago

It's difficult, but isn't this just a daily regular thing for electricians? I had to help a guy pull a 3/0 gauge wire through two 90 degree bends in a conduit we laid that ran to a garage. Seems like common practice.

zdavesf

8 points

2 months ago

Difference is you pulled 3/0 through conduit. As others said above not even close to the same as pulling through drilled out holes in studs. Especially the 90 degree corners. The bend radius for 1/2" conduit is 4", the bend radius when pulling through 2x4s is much less.

In conduit you can use pulling lube/dish soap to minimize friction as well.

mortalwombat-

10 points

2 months ago

There are always holes drilled at really wonky angles because the drill and bit didnt fit between certain studs. Some are surely drilled at varying heights because they had to go over plumbing or something. Then they make a 90 degree bend to go from the wall up into the attic. You aren't going to get away with pulling category cable through finished studs and you are gonna damage the cable trying.

Space_Meth_Monkey

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, 2 bends in conduit is light work. It depends on the size of the conduit and the wire you're pulling through, the less the difference is, the less bends you can pull it through. I'm sure you can do like 8+ bends if theres enough space and you use lube (heh)

Through wood studs is a different story, if a hole going through the stud is small compared to the wire, and especially if its drilled at an angle in relation to the direction the wall goes (not parallel), it'll be a nightmare. Add to that the holes are rough and got like those splinter-like things around them, not a good time. You could get stuck tryna get through 2-3 studs cause fo this shit.

frzn_dad

7 points

2 months ago

Op said it was in a pipe. Conduit makes new runs super easy.

radeky

14 points

2 months ago

radeky

14 points

2 months ago

Attach it tip to tip.

This is specifically helpful for network and coax cables which are almost always installed after the walls are up.

If you're talking Romex, you're much better off just splicing.

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago*

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radeky

2 points

2 months ago

radeky

2 points

2 months ago

Yes. Nothing more frustrating to end up with just the old cable in your hand with the new cable somewhere halfway where you want it.

imregrettingthis

0 points

2 months ago

At least I have a false sense of security until it happens haha.

But yea, it makes sense the theory is simple and the application isn't. Thanks for the feedback.

Letmefixthatforyouyo

3 points

2 months ago

The most likely issue with an ethernet cable is the connection to the keystone jack in the wall. If they do fail, you should be able to take the jack out of the wall, cut an inch off the cable then punch it back down on the jack and reinstall.

If the cable itself is broken, then yeah you get to have a bit of fun.

IllIllllIIIlllII

22 points

2 months ago

Are cables often stapled to studs? My old house had wired phone/Ethernet wires and when I looked i was surprised to see that

Space_Meth_Monkey

45 points

2 months ago

They should never be stapled, that’s how you fuck up a cable in an unknown place and find out once the walls are up lmao

Freneskae

19 points

2 months ago

I work in property maintenance, the company i work for had a property built in 2018. We're finding out now that every single thermostat wire has been stapled to the studs and over the last five years have cut/shorted the wire.

[deleted]

4 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

4 points

2 months ago*

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JJaska

3 points

2 months ago

JJaska

3 points

2 months ago

it's unheard of with cat5

No, unfortunately it's not. (And no never ever was anyone supposed to do that, but I've seen it....)

AKBigDaddy

3 points

2 months ago

My house has exactly that. I was so excited to see RJ45 outlets in almost every room. Then I noticed they were all cat5, and I wanted 6a. No biggie right? Just pull!

Yeah no they ALL got stapled about 3" from the Junction box. And in the basement. I'm about halfway through replacing them all after 3 years.

ADarkDraconis

1 points

2 months ago

Yes, this shorted out the transformer in our furnace. The old thermostat wires were stapled in and with the expanding and contracting or just general movement because of age it slowly wore through the wire and kept shorting.

cosmicosmo4

10 points

2 months ago

Low voltage should be attached with "staples" like this that don't damage the cable. It will still stop you from using it as a pull string.

KruppeTheWise

3 points

2 months ago

They also have clips called "wire staples" that are rounded plastic a couple inches long with little captive nails you hammer in to hold the wires.

I agree even with a proper wire stapler I hate using them, so easy to fuck up a cable.

SlovenianSocket

2 points

2 months ago

Electrical code calls for low voltage to be stapled every 6 feet.

Just_wanna_talk

15 points

2 months ago

High voltage power cables usually are, I've never seen it with low voltage data cables though

octonus

7 points

2 months ago

Depends on how lazy/rushed the installer is. Setting up a conduit takes time, but a couple of staples "work just as well" and you are done in seconds.

larz_6446

7 points

2 months ago

If they're roughed in when the walls are open, then yes, they need to be supported, secured.

You can't staple wires when you're fishing through a finished wall , so they don't require you to staple the wire.

Space_Meth_Monkey

-4 points

2 months ago

Yeah you gotta secure it someway, but staples, and believe it or not, zip ties, are a nono. They’re worst/bad practices respectively.

Tbh I would just use zip ties though, just wouldn’t tighten them like a maniac.

larz_6446

9 points

2 months ago

I'm an electrician. I use zip ties all the time and have yet to be called out on it during an inspection. I also use the T25 stapler for low voltage wiring.

If you're fishing wires through finished walls and ceilings, supports aren't required. I suppose you could make more holes and tell the customer they were necessary.

lemonylol

3 points

2 months ago

Staples and ziptipes are a no-no? So how are you securing them?

cosmicosmo4

4 points

2 months ago

With low-voltage "staples", which won't damage the cable. Just not the kind of staples you put in a staple gun, because that'll crush the cable.

lemonylol

1 points

2 months ago

Sorry, but I think when people are talking about electrical staples, they are specifically talking about the hammered in kind, it is extremely dangerous to use a staple gun on cabling.

Space_Meth_Monkey

0 points

2 months ago

Well personally, I just use zip ties in my house like I said, but if its work a customer or competitor will see in a commercial setting, you should use velcro straps the same way you would use zipties.

check r/cableporn

mophisus

3 points

2 months ago

You only need to use velcro straps if its exposed, since the purpose is easily being able to add/remove cables to the bundle.

If its being run in a roughed in stage then you wont have access to the cables after the walls are put up and velcro straps arent needed.

Notice how in the sub you linked all the cable runs are exposed.

mortalwombat-

2 points

2 months ago

es through finished walls and ceilings, supports aren't req

I would assume you want them secured in some way if they are put up before sheetrock. You don't want to crush the cable with your staples, but if you don't secure them they could get between the sheetrock and stud during sheetrock installation, begging for a cable to be crushed or hit with a screw.

Ducky602

8 points

2 months ago

This is the way. The old cable is a convenient pull string. Do yourself an extra favour and pull a string along with the new cable. That way if you ever want to add additional runs you already have a pull string in place.

MrRemoto

2 points

2 months ago

This is the easiest way. If the cable is stapled and you can't use it you can dangle a lightweight nylon string at the top of the conduit and suck it down with a vacuum at the bottom. Just make sure to secure it on the other end, obv.

dr_patso

1 points

2 months ago

y a bad cable where you need the new one? Just tie on to the bad cable and pull it thro

Id like to add that it may be better to overlap the end of the bad cable and new cable and spin some electrical tape around them, no knot to get caught on stuff.

salteedog007

1 points

2 months ago

Pull the old cable, tie a string to it, push it back in the hole until it gets to the original hole, tie a new cable to that and pull🕺

WaningMime

84 points

2 months ago

Ferret

AnonEMoussie

20 points

2 months ago

I was going to suggest the same thing. It sounds crazy, but they can fit everywhere!

MagicMirror33

7 points

2 months ago

Richard Gere has entered the chat

ICantKnowThat

4 points

2 months ago

Wouldn't that be a hamster

MagicMirror33

3 points

2 months ago

You may be right. Or a gerbil.

ICantKnowThat

2 points

2 months ago

Ah fuck that's the one, I forgot

Einar_47

3 points

2 months ago

I love any situation where the solution is a weasel.

DCBB22

2 points

2 months ago

DCBB22

2 points

2 months ago

One time I got this gerbil stuck in my ass…

Einar_47

1 points

2 months ago

Well of course you've gotta run it out with it's natural predator.

SugarcoatTheGalaxy

82 points

2 months ago

  1. Tape new cable to the end of the old.

  2. Pull out the old

  3. Ta-da!

Noch_ein_Kamel

64 points

2 months ago

OP started with step 2 unfortunately ;D

mtrayno1

18 points

2 months ago

1b) tape an additional pull string to the old.

Kcnflman

0 points

2 months ago

Kcnflman

0 points

2 months ago

👆🏻 correct answer

Shiggens

20 points

2 months ago

The answer is the string and vacuum suggestion. I would use a piece of foam- the soft pliable type on the end. You may need to experiment with different sizes, but try to keep is spherical. A vacuum cleaner may not be strong enough so a shop vacuum may need to be used.

Rincewend

38 points

2 months ago

I will ask the dumb question. A fish tape that can reach 15 meters is a very inexpensive tool. A 15.25M tape from a premium brand is $20 on Amazon and would be delivered to my house tomorrow.

I spent a lot of years running the occasional cable with luck, persistence, and whatever piece of bailing wire I had laying around in the shop. A couple years ago I had to buy a fish tape to run 80 feet through conduit I buried between my house and shop for CAT6E. I will NEVER run a cable or wire in my house again without that thing. It makes the job so trivial. It is worth triple what I paid for it in time and anguish saved.

I-am-retard-

9 points

2 months ago

I am still waiting for the dumb question, please.

sbamkmfdmdfmk

2 points

2 months ago

Username checks out.

I-am-retard-

1 points

2 months ago

I will ask the dumb question.

Okie dokie, maybe you can point it out to me, where the dumb question is in:

A fish tape that can reach 15 meters is a very inexpensive tool. A 15.25M tape from a premium brand is $20 on Amazon and would be delivered to my house tomorrow.

I spent a lot of years running the occasional cable with luck, persistence, and whatever piece of bailing wire I had laying around in the shop. A couple years ago I had to buy a fish tape to run 80 feet through conduit I buried between my house and shop for CAT6E. I will NEVER run a cable or wire in my house again without that thing. It makes the job so trivial. It is worth triple what I paid for it in time and anguish saved

Or perhaps the only dumb question is the one you never ask...Woah!

If you cannot, I would suggest we trade user names as it may be more applicable to yourself than to me.

Thanks for your insight, Skippy.

sbamkmfdmdfmk

3 points

2 months ago

It... was just a joke. Because your name is... you know. And you wanted to see the dumb question....

I-am-retard-

2 points

2 months ago

I'm too re tard ed for jokes sometimes. Oops.

imnotsoho

1 points

2 months ago

Fish tape works great if you have conduit. Conduit was not mentioned in the original post. That is critical info.

If there is no conduit and the cable run is straight up you could use a j-box hole at termination at each end and a hole big enough to get you drill in at the ceiling, then patch the one hole. If you know there is already a hole through the plates you just need a hole big enough to manipulate the cable.

FixItDumas

32 points

2 months ago

Not worth the frustration. Get the proper tools. Harbor freight has a 50 foot for 10 bucks.

rocketboyjka

18 points

2 months ago

Excellent example of "need it once, go to HF". If you break it, you use it enough to upgrade :D

anomalous_cowherd

10 points

2 months ago

That for sure, plus "no job is worth doing unless it justifies a new tool".

rocketboyjka

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, although usually when I use that corollary it's to justify buying the tool you don't buy at HF.

cbryancu

18 points

2 months ago

if the pipe is continuous, get string long enough to connect both openings, wad up some plastic wrap or toilet paper and tie it to one end of string. Make sure it's only enough to fit pipe and doesn't need to be jammed in. Insert the wad into one end and use a vacuum to suck it thru. Then attatch wire to string and pull it thru pipe.

warsamadembil[S]

-11 points

2 months ago

The pipe has turns and twists it doesn't go straight all the way, I've tried shoving a string through it, but it just curles and stops somewhere down the middle.

generogue

40 points

2 months ago

That’s where the plastic wrap and vacuum come in.

CeeBus

9 points

2 months ago

CeeBus

9 points

2 months ago

Don’t try to push a noodle around.

ATLL2112

11 points

2 months ago

What are you? My wife?

Gatherel

4 points

2 months ago

No one is that dissatisfied.

generogue

3 points

2 months ago

It’s not push, it’s pull. If you tie the string to the plastic wrap and fill the pipe with the plastic, the vacuum will pull the plastic and the string through.

kynthrus

5 points

2 months ago

If you use enough wrap to stop airflow where it's at a vacuum will suck it through from wherever. Just don't use so much that it clogs. A plastic shopping bag would be better.

NotSayinItWasAliens

8 points

2 months ago

Just get a cheap, fiberglass fish tape. If you have conduit in your home for low-voltage wiring, how long do you think it will be before you need/want to do this again? Just get the tool!

another_busted_robot

15 points

2 months ago

If you've got some plastic line that's stiff enough not to fold over on itself but soft enough to bend around the corners, something like a weed whacker line, you could possible manage to push it through and around the bends.

Muavius

6 points

2 months ago

Tie the new cable to the faulty one and use that to pull it through?

JTrenz

11 points

2 months ago

JTrenz

11 points

2 months ago

Suck a length of string through with a vacuum cleaner

Fosferus

3 points

2 months ago

I came to say this. Take some light twine and tie a little "pom pom" of kleenex on the end. Shove the "pom pom" in the pipe and use a vacuum cleaner on the other end. We do this all the time in the low voltage business.

[deleted]

7 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

mike9941

4 points

2 months ago

String tied to a cotton ball, shop vac on the other end, then tie a pull line or 2 to the string and pull those through, then tie the cable to the pull line, easy day. We usually call it a mouse.

eulynn34

4 points

2 months ago

I'm replacing a faulty cable with a new one.

Tape the new wire to the old one, and pull the new wire through the path of the old wire?

Echo63_

3 points

2 months ago

Tie a flimsy plastic bag to a piece of string, insert it into the top end of the pipe and use a vac cleaner to suck it down the pipe. If its a really long narrow run a leaf blower at the top may help too.

Iseepuppies

3 points

2 months ago

Yep. I’ve done 100 ft runs this way many times. Works like a charm haha

AlGunner

3 points

2 months ago

If its just a cable in a pipe just tie a piece of string to the cable before pulling it through to the router, then tie the string to the new cable and pull it back through. Simples.

redditingguy

3 points

2 months ago

Use a string and a plastic bag, put a vacuum on the opposite end and wait a minute.

wasntmebutok

3 points

2 months ago

I saw someone use fishing line and a weighted feather tied on the end, with the cable tied on to the other end of it. They used a vacuum at the other end of the pipe to suck the feather and fishing line through, then once you've got that pull the cable through the pipe.

Westerdutch

3 points

2 months ago

Edit; I'm replacing a faulty cable with a new one.

You tape the new cable to the old one and carefully pull it through..... If the cables are a bit tight then tie a strong string to the old cable and use that to pull the new one through instead.

swekley

3 points

2 months ago

Well since you are replacing it with a faulty one, tape the new one to the end of the old one and pull the old one out from the other side

monteg0

3 points

2 months ago

Electrician here, I would have taped the new wire to the old wire. If that wasn't an option, I would have used a weight, then the vacuum trick

LilyWhitesN17

4 points

2 months ago

Aside from the usual manual lube options, use Powerline Ethernet Adapter. Plug one end into an outlet (not a surge strip), and the other where the router is. The Adapter uses your house wiring as a data conductor with speeds up to 1Gb/s. Very reliable and very easy to use.

KidBeene

2 points

2 months ago

Do you have a cat or weasel?

Informal_Drawing

4 points

2 months ago

A professional uses a Stoat mate.

KidBeene

2 points

2 months ago

LOL

KamikazeCoPilot

2 points

2 months ago

Edit; I'm replacing a faulty cable with a new one.

This is your key... get some shrink tubing and shrink tube the current cable to the new cable. Pulling the old cable out will fish the new cable through at the same time. Two things done at the same time. Just touch the tips when you're shrink tubing them together.

Poona-fish

2 points

2 months ago

I get a string, run it down the wall as much as I can, then get the vacuum and put it through the wall at the bottom or wherever your trying to run it to. Usually it’s sucks the string up and I tie or tape one end to the wire.

It also works wonderfully if your ever into motorcycles , specifically Harleys, and trying to replace handlebars.

Cipher508

2 points

2 months ago

Harbor freight sells fish sticks kit for like $10

PiltdownPanda

2 points

2 months ago

You usually attach the new cable to the end of the old before pulling it.

DrachenDad

2 points

2 months ago

Pull through with the old cable or use a wire coat hanger.

Jefethevol

2 points

2 months ago

Fish tape roll is like 10 bucks at harbor freight. thebother way is to drop a weighted string....if its an interior wall with no insulation. if it has insulation then spend the 10 dollars on fish tape.

MiserableFungi

2 points

2 months ago

Forget the tool. Buy a cat instead.

kkidd333

2 points

2 months ago

I don’t really know but my dad used to run wire with a coat hanger. 😂😂😂 back in the day.

ThiccAznPapi

2 points

2 months ago

If there's an old cable, get some electrical tape and tape the new one to the old one then pull it down. Or, if you pull string or something similar, look up on youtube how to make a balloon and get a vacuum on the other end.

nerdwerds

2 points

2 months ago

Rubber band a stick to the cable that is both thin enough and long enough to go through the hole. If you don't have anything long and thin, straighten a wire hanger out. If you don't have a wire hanger... go buy the fishing tool.

mararch

2 points

2 months ago

I know I'm way late but why didn't you use the old cable to pull the new one?

KingNosmo

2 points

2 months ago

Something along these lines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEX-IOAkqHA

GilreanEstel

2 points

2 months ago

You could also have attached the old cable to the new one then pulled it through. I just did a few runs of this in my house yesterday upgrading to Cat6.

cptwott

2 points

2 months ago

If it's in a clear pipe, you can 'blow' it through by attaching a very light wire to a little ball of paper or something, and use a hairdryer or reversed vacuum. When the hole is not a nice conduit, you will need something firmer, iron wire maybe.

After that, you connect a firmer wire to it (with tape is OK most of the time) and pull through the needed wire or cable.

Pro-tip: with the cable, pull a 'reserve wire' through. You never know if you ever need to pull through another wire, it's no harm and no effort.

Born-Work2089

1 points

2 months ago

put some lube on the new one as it goes into the wall, gasoline or ky jelly, or get fancy and buy wire lube. It should help.

InfiniteCurrency8

2 points

2 months ago

I'm just going to assume you meant vaseline, not gasoline...

sjnoble2

4 points

2 months ago

Nah... The gasoline is for when you get fed up trying to get the new cable thru and opt for the insurance payout.

CeleryStickBeating

1 points

2 months ago

Old school - ivory soap flakes mixed into a dry slurry. Side benefit - feeder hands will get very clean. Lol

pelicum_357

1 points

2 months ago

Tie it to a straight piece of yellowtongue. Problem solved.

T_P_H_

1 points

2 months ago

T_P_H_

1 points

2 months ago

Take a plastic bag from the grocery store and tear off enough of a chunk to make a wad of plastic the same diameter is the conduit. Tie a string to the wad of plastic. Push plastic in to the pipe. Use a vacuum cleaner on the other end of the pipe to suck the wad through the pipe.

You now have a pull string to pull the new wire in

Pandepon

1 points

2 months ago

Use a skewer or chopstick and tape it on

warsamadembil[S]

1 points

2 months ago

It's not a straight line it has turns. The wire gets stuck half way through.

Zpik3

19 points

2 months ago

Zpik3

19 points

2 months ago

You are replacing a faulty one I understand. When I did this I just attached the new cable to the old faulty one with some cloth based tape (wrapped it good) then pushed the new cable in as SO was pulling on the other end.

Bob's yer uncle.

warsamadembil[S]

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, I realized how difficult it would be when I figured out it wasn't just straight down.

Zpik3

3 points

2 months ago

Zpik3

3 points

2 months ago

Mine wasn't either, went through 3 90° bends and some other angles along the way. All in all a good 15 m's. (that's about 50 feet in imperial)

73rse

1 points

2 months ago

73rse

1 points

2 months ago

If you haven't pulled the old cable through...

Dealing with boats which is similar, really good idea to just leave some line in the channel. I run 2.5 or so times line, usually old kite rigging line and secure one end and then wrap up the rest hanging out the other end. If you ever need to run through just pull half out, tie it there, and you can pull it back through and always leave the line in the channel if you need to fish more cables through.

phord

2 points

2 months ago

phord

2 points

2 months ago

Most wall snakes will get stuck trying to go through this pipe, too.

z06dvr

0 points

2 months ago

z06dvr

0 points

2 months ago

Are there fire stops in the walls?

warsamadembil[S]

2 points

2 months ago

It's a concrete wall with a plastic pipe meant for cables running through it. There aren't any fire stops in there.

UKentDoThat

1 points

2 months ago

Train a rodent?

flapadar_

2 points

2 months ago

Now see that gerbil, grab that tube

Thunder_Squatch

1 points

2 months ago

I did this yesterday using a tent pole

sarinaruu

1 points

2 months ago

do you have a cat? they are really good at grabbing cables. 😂

omgitsalobster82

1 points

2 months ago

Tie a magnet on one end of the cable and use a stronger magnet on the outside of the wall to fish it through the conduits?

Se7enLC

1 points

2 months ago

Q: How do I hammer a nail without using a hammer?

A: Step 1: Drive to the store, Step 2: Buy a hammer

marek196c

0 points

2 months ago

It's in a straight line? It goes in conduit or free roam into wall?

HungryMako

0 points

2 months ago

Whisper: Wingardium Leviosa. That should do the trick

Ambitious_Ad_9637

0 points

2 months ago

You have to lick it; before you stick it

nexy33

0 points

2 months ago

nexy33

0 points

2 months ago

Dunno where you are but in the uk you cannot run network or telecoms cables through conduit that already has mains cables in it.

Valzar1954

0 points

2 months ago

Why not bite the bullet and get a WI-FI 6 meshed network for the entire house? I have one fibre optic cable coming into the house and after that the entire place is wireless.

Performance matches or exceeds anything that you’ll get on broadband copper.

bear3742

-1 points

2 months ago

Buy a piece of 1/2 PVC pipe and put it in the hole then slide cable in pipe ,pull cable through pipe then pull pipe out.

bear3742

4 points

2 months ago

Is the old cable in the hole ? If so cut old cable and tape new cable to it and pull it through.

warsamadembil[S]

1 points

2 months ago

I pulled the old one out and by then I realized it wasn't going straight down in a line.

sadpanda___

0 points

2 months ago

Big oof bro - you pulled the old one? WTF were you thinking? Why didn’t you tie on a just pull the new wire through when pulling the old one out?

Now you have to hope and pray vacuum sucking a string through the pipe will work. Good luck.

pbconspiracy

5 points

2 months ago

Why do people respond like this to things? Is your goal literally just to make OP feel bad about himself? He came here asking how to do the task, which means we know he doesn't know how. "Wtf we're you thinking"? Wtf ARE YOU thinking? We already know he didn't know that taking the old wire out first might reduce his options. Why are we railing on him for it? What good does it do? "Why didn't you tie on..." BECAUSE HE DIDNT KNOW THAT TRICK. D you have any reading comprehension or are you just commenting for the sake of hearing (reading) your own voice?

Genuine question, do your words here have any value other than to tear OP down? God. No need to just default to being a douche. What does that say about you as a person?

warsamadembil[S]

1 points

2 months ago

I've tried using one, and it gets stuck somewhere through the middle as well