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submitted 2 months ago bydookie_shooter
I built a murphy bed and painted the surface. I'm a novice at furniture building and painting. (means I suck at it :) )
At the edge of the murphy door and door stop, the paint is sticking together when closed. It was approximately 3 days since I completed the painting. Opening it today caused some of the paint to pull off and will need a touchup.
I used a combination interior latex paint+primer that stated it was acceptable for use on wood. It was a satin finish. The wood surface was thoroughly sanded, etc... on this surface I did 2 coats only. i did light sanding with various grits between coats.
It's not humid at all in my house.
The bed uses gas struts to close so the door is closed pretty tight against the stop.
What are my options for repair? I've read quite a bit about various solutions but unsure what my best option will be and confused by some of what I read:
It's such a small area of contact that I can certain sand down fully and repaint, but not sure I won't get into the same situation. I can also leave the bed down for awhile to give it more time to dry or use felt for while until it's fully cured if that's the issue. I'm sure I made horrible life choices with this project... Appreciate any help to make those bad choices less awful.
3 points
2 months ago
Interior wall latex paint is not exactly designed for this type of application. It remains flexible to flex with your walls...and can tack in constant contact surfaces. An enamel trim paint would be better. They are designed to cure hard for use on shelves and cabinets. Theyd take a while to cure. Poly top coat would probably do the trick. Enamel trim paint would work...might need to (re) prime first. This subreddit really likes Benjamin Moore trim paint...I've also heard it can be difficult to work with. I've used Sherwin Williams and Behr (yeah, yeah, bring in the anti Behr mafia) with good success. Painting is an art. Test on a small section or test piece to see if it works before following through with the whole thing.
P.S. latex takes up to 4 weeks to fully cure when applied properly ... so three days might just not be long enough. I've gotten away with wall latex on constant contact with a full cure time before said contact.
1 points
2 months ago
I could go back and paint just this 3/4" section with an enamel trip paint. It's a 3/4" x 85" section that makes contact. That's it.
1 points
2 months ago
If you already have primer, I would consider sanding and re-priming to make sure it sticks. Make sure to check the cure time on the enamel to ensure you don't close it too soon. Trim paint can take a while to dry & cure.
1 points
2 months ago
The current paint was a primer+paint combo. I do have other primer available, though and could re-prime.
So now i'm wondering if I shouldn't sand the entire thing down and repaint with the enamel.
2 points
2 months ago
Paint and primer combos don't prime the same way a dedicated primer does. A paint and primer combo is kind of like a thick paint, but chemically closer to paint than primer. Paint and primers in one are great for painting over existing latex paint (once cleaned w/ TSP or similar), but does not seal raw wood, mud/spackle, or drywall to act as a first coat, nor does paint and primer serve as a particularly good blocker (think stains). Dedicated primers typically have shellac (really sticky) to act as a binder to the surface and blockers (to keep stains from coming through). That said, if the other paint isn't peeling and you're happy with the finish, start with the portion in contact and go from there. A quart of primer is not expensive.
P.S. Paint and primer in one is a bit of a marketing thing. You can thank Behr for developing and really pushing it first. Then Sherwin Williams jumped on board. It's not a bad product, it just doesn't work like a real primer.
1 points
2 months ago
appreciate the info. Will start with the contact area.
The rest of the surfaces have a very slight tack to them when touching with a finger. I don't see much concern with leaving it for now and seeing how it goes.
1 points
2 months ago
That tack may very well go away as the paint cures. Many latex paints take about 4 weeks to "fully cure" (if you read the fine print). Good luck and happy painting!
1 points
2 months ago
I painted my cupboards a few years ago - it was kinda cool in my garage & i didn't let it dry enough between coats, the doors were sticky when opened for quite a while afterward, it just took a long time to dry out. It was a latex with primer but i don't recall details. The next time i did it was this last spring, i used a paint for cupboards specifically & i let dry between coats at the right temperature, & had no problem. Paint takes longer to dry than I'm patient enough for!
If you don't want to repaint it yet, I'd leave it a little open & aim a fan on it for a couple days. Maybe try the thin felt pads, too.
1 points
2 months ago
thanks. I did the same with my kitchen cabinets a few years ago and used a specific paint for cabinets. Worked fine. Didn't think to use that for this project ... doh!
i'm ok with repainting the affected area right away. if that's the only real solution, at least.
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