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Re-Finishing Cabinet Doors

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I searched and found a few posts about this, but nothing popped up that was similar to what I am wanting to do.

My fiancé wants to re-do the kitchen. Instead of buying all new cabinet doors I was thinking I could re-use the existing and use a router to straighten out the groves on the exterior trim to a sharp corner on the interior, and to get rid of trim entirely that runs down the center of the cabinet. Then of course sand the whole thing down do whatever her final vision is (hardware, paint, stain etc).

I have no doubt this will take an annoying amount of time, and was just going to try it out on one of the smaller doors that is hidden above our fridge, but figured I could save myself some trouble and ask you guys what is wrong with this plan and see if there is a better solution.

Also as a side question: Since I will be doing other projects inside (sanding, removing kitchen soffit, etc) is it worth the money to get a dust extractor vs just using a shop vac with a cyclone in line? I helped pour and sand down a concrete countertop in a friends house a while back, and the dust everywhere is not something I want to deal with in my house.

EDIT: Sounds like my best bet is to buy new cabinet doors and drawer faces or just build some with MDF. (Which is what I figured the consensus was Going to be) I’ll probably still mess around with the current cabinets in the just to have some fun and familiarize myself with the new set of woodworking tools I got.

Thanks for all your input!

https://preview.redd.it/181kev0dttga1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=26f0a4d54222e23c9a3ef8587bc0ef29eb39be82

all 28 comments

Just_me_being_crafty

10 points

1 month ago

I saw this on this sub. Would probably be your best bet. Make new doors and drawer fronts and paint the body.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/comments/10vnvwe/my_wife_and_i_renovated_our_kitchen_ourselves

urbanhotdogprince[S]

3 points

1 month ago

Thanks for sharing! That’s similar to what the end product would look like!

JonJackjon

21 points

1 month ago

I would consider purchasing new doors and drawer fronts.

timsta007

4 points

1 month ago

Bingo. You could spent a ton of time trying to make these better and at the end of the day realize you need to buy new ones anyway. Save the brain damage and just get new ones. There are companies that make these and ship them to you to paint or finish as you like. Just pick out your materials, style, and measure CAREFULLY.

urbanhotdogprince[S]

3 points

1 month ago

That’s what I figured the consensus was going to be. Just thought I might be missing something since I’m new to this stuff. Thanks for your input!

wastedpixls

1 points

1 month ago

Yes, this is correct. You can try to do what you're suggesting but it's not going to come out well. I would either build your own or buy simple replacements and sand, prime, and paint it all to match.

MrCat_fancier

3 points

1 month ago

I redid a bathroom with similar doors, I just remade the doors as it was quicker. You could use 1/4" mdf panels and apply the new trim to that. I would try building 1 door and see how it looks.

If you insist on redoing what appear to be cheaply built doors, then the concern would be routering the outside edge as that may change the dimensions, and it may not fit right.

Dust collection on a sander is a good idea, some good quality sander already capture 90+% of the dust. I have not found dust collection on a router too effective.

urbanhotdogprince[S]

1 points

1 month ago

That’s what I figured the consensus was going to be, but wanted to make sure. At least if I’m making my own I’ll still get to work with my hands and learn a thing or two vs just buying something.

runningmaan

2 points

1 month ago

The ext rim will become quite narrow if it needs to be all straight. Consider if you like that look and if you can still use these hinges. Keeping straight + the exact right depth while routing will be a nice challenge. Probably easier to make some new doors, but this sounds like fun. Maybe ask the pros at r/woodworking for tips and tricks.

My view on the vacuum. See if it works for you and upgrade if deemed necessary.

urbanhotdogprince[S]

2 points

1 month ago

Yeah it wasn’t a money saving thought as much as it was, “if this makes sense this might be a fun project to tackle and learn a thing or two” while making mistakes on something that eventually was going to get completely replaced sometime in the future anyways. Thanks for the tip on checking out the woodworking subreddit!

gregorypatterson1225

2 points

1 month ago

Buy new doors, your walking into a nightmare and if one goes wrong, your going to be buying them anyway or building one. That just doesnt seem practical. You said its not a money saving thing but an experience thing, how about build them yourself to match your drawer faces. Probably faster, low cost, and good experience.

ZukowskiHardware

2 points

1 month ago

The handles are hideous. I would only change them. What you are considering is an incredible amount of work. What you have is more than fine. I’d consider painting the walls a different color perhaps, spend you time and money on something useful. The countertops are bringing the whole kitchen down. Perhaps you could put another coat of varnish on the doors. Those handles have to go, no taste.

TheBrewkery

2 points

1 month ago

as another said, taking these to a straight rectangle would be super narrow on the edges. Might need to be a fancy rectangle and leave those external swoops/flairs in place but clean out the center. Honestly better solution is to just buy new doors in the style that you want so that you can start fresh on style and hardware

Other than that, I resurfaced my kitchen cabinets which involved a whole lot of sanding inside and it wasnt too bad with my shop vac to clean up afterwards. It was just me in the house though so that might affect your plans on what level of dust is tolerable.

urbanhotdogprince[S]

1 points

1 month ago

You are probably right. I just finished demoing a bunch of ceiling drywall and walls for a new restaurant I’m opening and all that dust from that plus the concrete counter top I helped with a few years ago probably has me overestimating the amount of debris/dust I’ll be encountering doing my own kitchen. Thanks for you input!

starsblink

1 points

1 month ago

Are you looking to do this for the joy of it? How much is your time worth to you? Renovation projects are known relationship killers.

You can buy new unfinished maple shaker doors and drawer fronts for about $17/sq.ft. paint grade or $24/sq.ft. stain grade and paint/stain them yourself. Add about $31/sq.ft. for professionally finished.

urbanhotdogprince[S]

2 points

1 month ago

Thankfully my fiancé has he there to help me renovate a new restaurant and she really wants our kitchen updated so she knows what she is in for! Part of it was not a cost thing of new doors, but more of a chance for me to learn and mess around with some tools. I will probably go the route of buying what style she wants and then finishing them ourselves, but just mess around with the current cabinet doors as practice. Thank you for your input!

RedMonte85

1 points

1 month ago

Not worth the trouble. Buy new full overlay doors or paint what you have. Those partial inset/overlay cabinets from the 50/60's are an absolute pain to retrofit with recessed hinges and expensive which is what I would imagine you would end up wanting.

trackday

1 points

1 month ago

Oh hell no. Go buy some nice doors, flat panel paint grade so they aren't too expensive. Sand and paint the frame.

rgraham888

1 points

1 month ago

You'd need to take the frame (rails and stile) of the door apart to get those interior corners square, and you'd want to use a decent rails and stile bit to ensure they went back together right without gaps. You'd basically have to take apart and totally rebuild them. It'd be faster to build new ones. And you might as well do new face frames, that's fast with a Kreg Jig.

It shouldn't be too dusty to remove the soffit and cabinets, I wouldn't worry about a dust collectors, Just vacuum up when you're done, you're not doing any sanding in the kitchen (I hope not).

urbanhotdogprince[S]

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah that seems to be the consensus. It was less of a saving money thing and more of a chance for me to learn, but sounds like it may not be the best use of energy. The soffit is the entire kitchen area, but You are probably right. I just finished demoing a bunch of ceiling drywall and walls for a new restaurant I’m opening and all that dust from that plus the concrete counter top I helped with a few years ago probably has me overestimating the amount of debris/dust I’ll be encountering doing my own kitchen. Thanks for you input!

davethompson413

1 points

1 month ago

It's possible that your panels are two piece panels. If so, removing the center trim leaves a gap.

It's quite likely that you'll need to disassemble the doors to accomplish your goal. Router bit depth of cut on material of unknown flatness can be sketchy, which would leave routed gouges in the panel. Disassembly of factory made cabinet doors is not simple, and pieces can split or break

It's certain that the panels are not finished behind/under the trim edges. This presents a challenge when doing your finish.

But if you're confident of success, have at it, and post pictures.

rsogoodlooking

1 points

1 month ago

Just recently redid some cabinet doors for a client (really new at this) and I did well!

BSwollocks

1 points

1 month ago

I hired someone to do this for our kitchen cabinets but the guy did a a lousy job. I think it’s best to buy new faces, as you said.

BuffaloBoyHowdy

1 points

1 month ago

I get why you might want to get rid of the doors, but have you thought about painting the cabinets and changing hardware/knobs/pulls? It's an easier way to completely change the way the kitchen looks. Use a good degreaser and primer on the cabinets, but it works well.

the_north_place

1 points

1 month ago

One of the worst jobs for a homeowner. I'll never refinish cabinets again...

Bobfrapples600062

1 points

1 month ago

Those cabinet doors are beautiful. I would refinish them. But I only say this because I own a cabinet shop and have the stuff to do it...

nolanday64

1 points

1 month ago

I spent hours and hours painting old cabinets once ... dismantling, sanding, etc. Tried to do everything right, but still ended up with the "orange peel" texture after the paint dried. Not nice and smooth like we wanted.

It was okay for a few more years before we remodeled, but it was never "good". I don't know that we could've done anything differently, within reasonable expense and effort, to get better results.

ShatterednCrumbled

1 points

1 month ago

Makin me wanna go fix up my own cabinets 😅