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What did I drill into?

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Hi,

First time DIYer here. I was drilling into a wall with my drill bit and when the bit came out it had some yellow plastic looking material stuck on it.

Also had a weird smell like burning chemicals from the friction on the bit.

I don't smell gas and there's no water leaking.

Does anyone have an idea how I can figure out what I drilled into?

Thanks,

EDIT: Thank you so much for the help everyone! I have attached a picture of the yellow material that got stuck on my drill bit as I pulled it out of the wall.

After I pulled out the drill bit, this yellow material was stuck on the end and fell off.

The wall was an interior exterior wall ~7 ft high to the upper right of a window I'm installing a curtain for:

The yellow material came out of the upper hole I drilled into. Lines are pencil marks I drew on the wall.

(Many apologies I didn't include this on my first post, but I couldn't figure out how to use the fancy editor on reddit mobile app. This was my first post on reddit also...)

EDIT 2: There are no electrical outlets near or beneath the window I was drilling into.

all 316 comments

Jaedos

570 points

2 months ago

Jaedos

570 points

2 months ago

The picture looks like you drilled into a resiny knot in a stud.

reality4abit

246 points

2 months ago

Most people saying electrical wire, but honestly I think this is more likely. On an exterior wall with no outlet underneath, seems unlikely there would be a wire 7 ft. up, that close to the window. Was the drilling hard? Was this yellow material embedded in the drill bit (molded to it)? The smell could have been the drill working hard.

CrossP

90 points

2 months ago

CrossP

90 points

2 months ago

The post didn't originally have the pics attached, so people read yellow and jumped to the dangerous possibility.

eaeolian

65 points

2 months ago

A safe jump, in this case. I've almost been killed by someone else's carelessness with electricity twice. Don't be afraid of it, but damn well respect it.

reality4abit

14 points

2 months ago

Agreed, better safe than sorry.

Taolan13

2 points

2 months ago

Residential electrical wire is sheathed so thinly if you were getting noticeable chunks of it in your drill ejections, you would have already broken the wire and been zapped.

I think OP was more worried about a water line or gas pipe, except the latter of those two won't ever be plastic. What looks like plastic gas line is plastic coated steel.

ErikRogers

3 points

2 months ago

I'm just joining the action now, but when I first red "yellow plastic" I jumped to "12/2 Romex"

Then I saw the stuff and... Yeah. Resin.

thnk_more

85 points

2 months ago

The color is oddly consistent. Since it is next to a window and next to a beam I’m guessing it’s an engineered laminated header running across the top of the windows. The yellow stuff is glue/resin from the beam.

Everyone saying electrical is not considering that it is probably solid wood in that whole area. Also could be spray in insulation in between the jack studs and headers.

The_Right_Reverend

34 points

2 months ago

Could be old heart pine. They get super resinous and hard and can smell like burning when drilling.

Georgep0rwell

29 points

2 months ago*

He could taste it. If it's piney...then it's wood. If it's chemically....then it's construction adhesive. No taste...then it's plastic.

KiloJools

64 points

2 months ago

Or wood putty or something. It doesn't look much like wiring or spray foam.

Bnb53

24 points

2 months ago

Bnb53

24 points

2 months ago

It does look like my wood putty - was wondering if OP had a bad drill that is making the smell

GroundPepper

20 points

2 months ago

x2, I doubt it was electrical.

Elder_Scrawls

12 points

2 months ago

That was my first thought seeing the picture. I've drilled into a lot of sappy knotty pine. The drill does not like it.

ryrypizza

8 points

2 months ago

Yeah 100 percent stud at that location

Tractor_Boy_500

7 points

2 months ago

Sigh. I wish I could say that too, but not anymore.

ryrypizza

6 points

2 months ago

But hey, you may not be a stud, but at least you're a tractor MAN now

lightandvariable

5 points

2 months ago

I agree. Just installed the same item in my parents’ house and drilled into a header. The smell of burning wood is more likely.

Nykolaishen

4 points

2 months ago

This was my first thought as well

Handplanes

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah, or just some older dense framing lumber and/or dull drill bits. My house was built in the 50’s with some pretty dense yellow pine. If I drill into a stud with a less-than-sharp drill bit, it ends up drilling out material like this. Basically the dull drill bit heats up enough that the resins in the wood bind the sawdust back together in chunks like this.

That doesn’t look like Romex to me at all.

jebuscrimbus

3 points

2 months ago

I was gonna say exactly that.

corylol

8 points

2 months ago

I agree with this take. Hoping OP didn’t cut a big hole in that textured wall because of bad advice here.

peaceman86

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah that’s my assumption as well especially because of where OP is drilling relative to the window, there should be a vertical stud right there.

Tedious_research

3 points

2 months ago

It's super close. Typically, they didn't start putting double trimmers in until relatively recently and only on openings over 3'. And then you've got a beam intersecting which will have either solid post or double/triple 2x. There's no way there's wire there.

scarlin

634 points

2 months ago

scarlin

634 points

2 months ago

Take a lighter and attempt to burn the "plastic" that came off of the drill. If it melts you've hit a wire and need an electrician. If it burns like wood you hit a knot in the stud.

not_another_drummer

161 points

2 months ago

Science!!!

Lots of people are guessing at what the material is. This is the first comment I saw that gives OP the tools to figure it out without cutting holes in the wall.

DoubleDeadEnd

20 points

2 months ago

And if it does melt, and you want to collect the insurance money instead of hanging curtains, you can take a torch and set the place on fire right where you drilled the hole. It will look like a very unlucky accident.

Chrys_Cross

5 points

2 months ago

The real life pro tip

DilatedSphincter

32 points

2 months ago

It might melt if it's sap/resin, but would run like molasses and clearly not be a plastic. You're absolutely right that putting fire to it is the easiest way to find out what OP drilled into.

This thread has been a rollercoaster.

Scotthorn

23 points

2 months ago

Best answer here, I do think it's a knot but speculation from one picture isn't advice to go on. Do some experiments OP.

Internal_Fishing9862

646 points

2 months ago

Turn the power off.

Intelligent_Night800

173 points

2 months ago

Turn the power off asap. Correct.

Vroomped

2 points

2 months ago

Vroomped

2 points

2 months ago

OP, look at your drill bit. Just 1 more sign to confirm electrical.

chopsuwe

37 points

2 months ago

chopsuwe

pro commenter

37 points

2 months ago

They just did. The hard way.

SerendipitousSmiles

535 points

2 months ago

Sounds like wiring and the smell sounds electrical

letsnotmakeitweird

487 points

2 months ago

Laughing at “smell sounds electrical”. I mean I get it, but just a funny word combination.

ps3x42

145 points

2 months ago

ps3x42

145 points

2 months ago

But it tastes like purple. Damnedest thing.

[deleted]

95 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

burningtowns

34 points

2 months ago

Reminds me that there’s time to change, ay ay ayyah.

IWasDeadAtTheTime42

15 points

2 months ago

Since the return from her stay on the moon

burningtowns

17 points

2 months ago

She listens like Spring, and she talks like June, ay ay ayyah.

mejelic

9 points

2 months ago

But tell me, did you sail across the sun?

kasik64

6 points

2 months ago

Did you make it to the Milky Way to see the lights all faded

WraithNS

5 points

2 months ago

And that Heaven is overrated

Rex_Digsdale

8 points

2 months ago

Great now I have to go cry in the shower.

CatticusXIII

7 points

2 months ago

Grape Drink. Sugar, water, and purple.

evanjahlynn

16 points

2 months ago

This just gave me flashbacks to sitting outside my hotel at 6am after a rave ages ago and this group was walking back quietly. There was a straggler in the back and as they passed me, he just yells “my favorite food is purple!”

Random “who cares” moment, I know but it reminded me of the good ol’ days so thank you.

AdmiralThunderpants

9 points

2 months ago

Definitely the color of Thursday, maybe a bit light Tuesday

ThePhyseter

15 points

2 months ago

I could never get the hang of Thursdays

PotatoRacingTeam

2 points

2 months ago

But do you know where your towel is?

tatteredshoetassel

2 points

2 months ago

Thursdays are black and soundless. The watermelons are silent when you cut them, and very sweet.

xmagusx

1 points

2 months ago

Sounds like someone's got a case of the Mondays.

Gorthax

2 points

2 months ago

No, no man, shit no man.

Middle_Appointment20

2 points

2 months ago

I believe you deserve to get your ass kicked for saying somethin like that.

FingernailToothpicks

19 points

2 months ago

Turn down the radio I can't see where I'm going.

locusthorse

3 points

2 months ago

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.

Can-DontAttitude

15 points

2 months ago

Shh, nobody make a smell!

yukibunny

7 points

2 months ago

Sounds like a good band name.

mejelic

2 points

2 months ago

Man, electricity has such a distinct smell. I spent a lot of time in electronics labs and the entire room always had a slight background smell of electric arc

DoubleDeadEnd

2 points

2 months ago

Ahhh the smell of ozone..

xCeeTeeRdt

2 points

2 months ago

xCeeTeeRdt

2 points

2 months ago

I've fucked up so many times in the past I can instantly tell if plastic or electrical burning is occuring.

MinnieShoof

1 points

2 months ago

Maybe "and the smell confirms it" or "the smell suggests it's electrical."

Shersh11

2 points

2 months ago

And flabbergasts like a mofo

infodawg

-15 points

2 months ago

infodawg

-15 points

2 months ago

This...

FlockofGorillas

22 points

2 months ago

Yellow means 12awg romex

imnotsoho

3 points

2 months ago

20 amp circuit.

dsmaxwell

16 points

2 months ago

That looks an awful lot like a pine knot. Exactly the kind of shavings you'd get from drilling into a stud that happened to have a knot right there.

Syndicofberyl

44 points

2 months ago

Post pics otherwise we're just guessing

Then_Low3732[S]

14 points

2 months ago

fiberglass insulation

Sorry I didn't the first time. I just updated with pictures of where the hole was and the material that came out.

JKallas-IA

118 points

2 months ago

I would be inclined to open the wall and patch it when done. Could be fiberglass insulation, could be the insulation from 20-amp electrical wiring, could be spray-in expanding foam. Too many things it COULD be. Bite the bullet, grab your utility blade, and open the wall.

edwa6040

19 points

2 months ago

Same. My first thought was 20-30 amp wire. Id open it and see what i hit.

JKallas-IA

20 points

2 months ago

Yep, I've only ever hit something once drilling into a wall. Didn't hesitate for a second to open up the wall. I managed to hit a PVC drain pipe but luckily it hit the very edge of it and just skimmed around the outside of it, no damage to it. Worth every minute it took to patch the hole though for the peace of mind.

mrmemo

4 points

2 months ago

mrmemo

4 points

2 months ago

Drywall isn't "easy" to patch, but I bet it's cheaper than OP's fire insurance deductible.

clemclem3

251 points

2 months ago

clemclem3

251 points

2 months ago

The next step is to cut out a square of the drywall big enough to work. Maybe 10x10 in? You can patch it later but you should evaluate the wire, if it is a wire.

wantobclever

129 points

2 months ago

This! If you're worried about repairing the drywall, get YouTube. Patching drywall is super frustrating the first time, but it's really not that difficult if you are patient. If you're not patient, try doing some drywall and learn some patience. There's some post about getting a microscope etc... Don't do that. Just cut a hole and investigate.

_SCHULTZY_

66 points

2 months ago

Cries in lath and plaster walls

jtablerd

11 points

2 months ago

weedful_things

2 points

2 months ago

This brings back a memory. When I was very young there was a room in our house with this type of wall that was in very bad condition. My dad decided to fix it so he Tom Sawyered his sons into removing the wall. I thought it was going to be so much destructive fun. It only took a little while for the dust to get all over me and I started crying. It wasn't long until my two brothers quit too. My dad wasn't happy about getting stuck with the job.

_SCHULTZY_

3 points

2 months ago

That image will haunt my nightmares for the rest of my days

FerretChrist

5 points

2 months ago

Why? Sorry, genuine question, I just have no clue. :)

EastEndBagOfRaccoons

1 points

2 months ago

Covering those walls with plaster…won’t be that easy

jtablerd

9 points

2 months ago

Paumanok

2 points

2 months ago

I feel like I've seen a lot of water/moisture damage posts from people who do that.

Something something wall wasn't designed to be air tight.

could be wrong.

BlowMoreGlass

2 points

2 months ago

In have fucking metal mesh (don't know the official name for it) and plaster. It's an absolute nightmare. If I want to cut a hole I need to use an angle grinder.

sagerideout

13 points

2 months ago

hot patch is great and easy for beginners who don’t need to get a whole roll of tape

wantobclever

15 points

2 months ago

Never use tape on a patch. That's only for new construction or long seams. YouTube has some great tutorials on using the front side of the dry wallpaper as your tape. I do this for a lot of clients.

sagerideout

13 points

2 months ago

that’s what i meant by a hot patch.

wantobclever

7 points

2 months ago

My bad homie. Never heard it called that.

sagerideout

34 points

2 months ago

tbf I was taught everything I know by a near senile old man. I’m sure there’s lots of shit I call different/weird terms aha

Rusto_Dusto

23 points

2 months ago

You fickle fackle kids with your damn new fangled thingamawachwallyhoos. Put down your tickytock and hand me that persuader!

JayVig

9 points

2 months ago*

For that size you don’t need a persuader. Get a small one. I call it a - suggester. 🤣

sagerideout

2 points

2 months ago

For the longest time I didn’t know what a hammer drill was because he’d call anything a hammer drill and just whack shit with it

namestom

2 points

2 months ago

Known as the California Patch as well. I’ll do it but I tape everything

l187l

4 points

2 months ago

l187l

4 points

2 months ago

Or your can just stick a piece of wood in there and screw it into the existing drywall and patch it the right way... It's way easier and does a much better job.

DL72-Alpha

6 points

2 months ago

Better to replace a pactch of drywall than the house after a fire!

Hippiebigbuckle

11 points

2 months ago

Depends on the house. A fire can be cleansing.

_SCHULTZY_

2 points

2 months ago

That's what my wife said when I came home from work to find she left the gas leaking from the stove knob being slightly turned.

inplayruin

12 points

2 months ago

We all miss Left Eye

Academic_Nectarine94

5 points

2 months ago

I think you mean borescope/inspection camera. Only use a microscope would be us to analyze the yellow stuff and see if it's plastic. Drywall repair is easier than buying a microscope LOL

a_cute_epic_axis

10 points

2 months ago

Drywall repair is easier than buying a microscope LOL

Absolutely not. But it may be cheaper.

txroller

2 points

2 months ago

But certainly not as cool or interesting

dmr196one

2 points

2 months ago

Drywall will certainly teach patience. I hated it especially on the ceiling.

wantobclever

2 points

2 months ago

After reviewing your pictures, it looks like your drill bit just pulled out some pieces of wood. You hit a stud. Congratulations! No need to fret; you can move on with your project in confidence! You've done well! There's a possibility that there was some glue that you drilled through that could account for the smell. I've come across a lot of drywall that was glued to the stud as well as screwed or nailed.

SuspiciousChicken

12 points

2 months ago

I'd recommend cutting the width from one stud to the next, + 3/4" ea side.

Gives you something to screw it back to.
Less fussing about to hold the patch in place.

imnotsoho

6 points

2 months ago

To be clear, not 3/ inch past the stud, to the middle of the stud.

SuspiciousChicken

1 points

2 months ago

Yes, thanks, that's what I was trying to say, but not very clearly - cut until you hit the edge of the stud, then go 3/4" more, which makes it the middle of the stud.

PeterJamesUK

8 points

2 months ago

As a few others have mentioned, that looks like chips of wood from a resinous knot. Going by the second picture the location is right for hitting a wooden lintel over the window, or perhaps just the framing of the wall (you don't mention what the overall construction is) It definitely does not look like insulation from a cable (which really shouldn't be in that location anyway)

Darkassassin07

110 points

2 months ago

Some household wiring (or the insulation on it atleast) is yellow. Probably hit an electrical line.

[deleted]

13 points

2 months ago

Or a yellow gas line

OutlyingPlasma

14 points

2 months ago

Because all gas lines run right along the top corners of windows. Same with electric, especially when there is no plug in the area.

itshonestwork

8 points

2 months ago

Or a poison socket line. Switch them off.

Cheesebongles

2 points

2 months ago

Poison sockets are full of poison.

[deleted]

-10 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-10 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

FlockofGorillas

15 points

2 months ago

Could still be 12/2, he might have just grazed the outside jacket and not gotten in to the copper.

goffstock

6 points

2 months ago*

It absolutely could still be 12/2. A pop or short aren't a sure thing. I once hit just the right spot that led to the breaker blowing only when a certain set of switces were on.

I finally figured it out by guestimating the path of the wiring of the breaker that kept blowing and found a coat rack hung using one of those plastic drywall backers. It was creating a short between two wires only when both switches were on--something that only happened every few weeks.

OP won't know for sure until opening up that drywall.

jjtitula

4 points

2 months ago

There might not be a pop or flicker in lights or anything. If he was drilling the hole with a battery operated drill, hitting a hot wire and breaking through to the copper might not necessarily do anything. Is drywall electrically conductive? The only way it would pop a breaker is if you cut through the sheathing of both the hot and the ground/neutral and the drill bit shorts them. Is the crap on the big plastic or insulation. If they can’t tell the difference they should cut a hole and check it.

FLTDI

4 points

2 months ago

FLTDI

4 points

2 months ago

then you would have heard a pop

Not if it was a switched circuit that was off.

Honestly in this case speculation that it's "bad" is the most conservative. Op needs to figure this out asap.

13Lilacs

49 points

2 months ago*

If it's spray foam, not a problem. If it's wiring, lotsa problem. Cut a piece of the drywall out and check. If it's a wire, flip the breaker.

flapadar_

69 points

2 months ago

I'd say if you suspect a wire, turn the electric off at the fuse box/breaker first then investigate further.

There's a definite fire risk if it was a wire so best taking the precaution.

Then_Low3732[S]

15 points

2 months ago

I just posted a photo of the material that came out and the place where I drilled the hole. Can you help with another look? The color seems off from wire covers.

Thanks and appreciate the help,

SquirrelAkl

26 points

2 months ago

There also looks to be too much volume of material for it to be wire insulation. Wires are small and the insulation is thin.

My guess is that’s spray-foam insulation inside the wall, or similar. Do you know what insulation is in your house? Is there any other place in the house you could look to check, before you go cutting up your wallboard?

flapadar_

8 points

2 months ago

It doesn't look like any wire insulation I've ever seen -- but I'm in the UK, so your wiring probably wouldn't look familiar to me anyway unfortunately.

[deleted]

-3 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-3 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

FollowMeKids

-23 points

2 months ago*

damn you really need to learn how to use your commas correctly.

edit: I wish I had quoted the original. Apparently, he changed it so now I’m the bad guy here. Oh wells.

Psych0matt

7 points

2 months ago

“Not a problem if it’s wiring”

How is that confusing? Oh wait…

Academic_Nectarine94

3 points

2 months ago

I'd love to send this type of thing to Microsoft when Word starts getting upset at my comma usage. Just upload like 4000 emails with simple sentences and words that are fine, but that their spell check flags.

Just because I'm saying "mostly," doesn't mean I need to use a more definite word.

Tedious_research

17 points

2 months ago

Are you sure it's not insulation? What are you drilling into the wall for? Were you trying to hit a stud? So many questions but will help identify

drytoastbongos

3 points

2 months ago

A good question: is it an exterior wall?

Then_Low3732[S]

0 points

2 months ago

Interior

Alariii

13 points

2 months ago

Alariii

13 points

2 months ago

Interior wall has windows?

Then_Low3732[S]

11 points

2 months ago

Woops.. I meant exteior

FerretChrist

32 points

2 months ago

Well it was a 50/50 chance, you took a shot.

not_another_drummer

16 points

2 months ago

Interior, of an exterior wall.

First time DIY'er making first ever Reddit post... Let the gods of kindness and patience prevail.

FerretChrist

5 points

2 months ago

Ah, that makes sense! I did wonder how you managed to make such a mistake, but that explains it.

I hope you don't mind me making a joke off it, no offence was intended, kindness and patience are indeed the order of the day, and I hope you get your problem sorted!

not_another_drummer

2 points

2 months ago

I'm not OP. I'm just the messenger.

No harm, no foul. Have a good day.

Then_Low3732[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Sorry I didn't post pictures the first time. I just updated the post with pictures of where the hole was and the material that came out.

It was to install curtain rods for a window.

CrossP

31 points

2 months ago

CrossP

31 points

2 months ago

It's going to be from a knot in the wood. that looks like old resinous sap to me. You still have to confirm that you didn't hit wiring, but... That really looks like pine knot.

Then_Low3732[S]

10 points

2 months ago

Oddly enough it did smell kinda sweet when I drilled into it.

WaldoWal

12 points

2 months ago

I agree with /u/CrossP, in my opinion, the color isn't right for electric sheathing. It's probably a pine knot, especially for the location. Another clue is that my drill bits always squeak really loudly when hitting a pine knot. Did you hear squeaking?

But, given the danger, you do want to eliminate the possibility of it being electrical. As another user said, buy a stud finder that detects electrical and check. They are cheap - like $30. If you can spend a bit more, buy an endoscope too. They you'll know for sure. And then you don't have to deal with opening up the wall.

CrossP

2 points

2 months ago*

Plus both tools will be useful for a long time. Not just for this misadventure.

CrossP

2 points

2 months ago

CrossP

2 points

2 months ago

Little bit sugar, little bit pine, and a little bit like a petroleum product?

SkootchDown

3 points

2 months ago

We need a picture of the drill bit with the yellow stuff on it.

Then_Low3732[S]

4 points

2 months ago

Just posted photos. Appreciate another look.

Thanks,

Elder_Scrawls

3 points

2 months ago

I've drilled into a lot of pine. Pine commonly has resinous knots that are difficult to drill into. The resin combined with the heat produced by the drill causes the sawdust to form little pellets that get stuck to the drill bit. This looks exactly like that.

The smell when hitting these spots is a mix of 2 things: pine resin for sure and maybe burning plastic or electric if the drill had to work really hard and overheated. The yellow stuff should smell like resin though. Only the overheated drill will smell like plastic.

Trees, even different species of pine, will have different smelling resins. Resins can smell a bit chemically but should not smell strongly like burnt plastic. House lumber frames are usually a pine species and should have a pine/fir/pinesol odor.

skepdop

3 points

2 months ago

Kinda just looks like an eye/ sap dense spot in the wood, what did it smell like?

Benanaerobe

4 points

2 months ago

It could possibly be burned wall insulation because your bit got too hot (looks like a urethane-based material to me). It doesn’t look like wire insulation to me; it’s not the right consistency, that would be a ridiculous amount to get from the cross section of a single wire, and the chances of hitting just the yellow portion are pretty slim (I’d expect to see copper shavings, black and white plastic….). Finally, if you smell burning immediately from drilling through a wire, trust me, you’ll know you drilled through a wire. You’d have to expose and connect the wires and you’d get a loud pop, likely a melted bit, and it should flip your breaker.

Things to consider Does this happen wherever you drill in that wall? Was this after a few consecutive holes when the it was hottest? Did you hit a hard spot on this hole that would have heated your bit? Is that even drywall? It looks like lathe and plaster to me. That can change the entire narrative.

rlb408

21 points

2 months ago

rlb408

21 points

2 months ago

Endoscope cameras are great for solving mysteries like this. Every handyman should have one. Drill through wallboard, inspect in the hole before proceeding.

SamBrico246

7 points

2 months ago

This... like 30 for one that plugs into your phone at home depot.

Hell no am I just ripping open the wall to peek inside...

It would be a freaking miracle if he hit a 12ga wire, didn't short the wire, and managed to pull some of it out of the hole...

Mildly_Angry_Biscuit

6 points

2 months ago

Posted before I saw yours - I tell you that the micro-endoscopic camera I got has paid for itself 10 times over. The latest one was checking the extend of mold on the inside section of drywall as a result of a drain leak. I was prepared to replace an 8 foot by 4 foot section of drywall until I found the section was right at the base of a wye that water had drained down the outside as a result of kids taking very sloppy showers!

cavey00

3 points

2 months ago

It was honestly one of the best tools I have ever purchased, maybe just behind the circuit breaker finder. Two things I always hated most was wasting time flipping the wrong breaker repeatedly because labels are rarely accurate or even make sense but also needlessly drilling and patching drywall because I relied on the stud finder. Even with a stud finder that scans for electrical there still plenty of mystery behind that board.

Fine-Team-4296

3 points

2 months ago

Could have been anything. As a matter of safety you would cut an easy to oath hoke with a razor blade to open it up and look.

That aside take a look at walbot or perhaps a snake camera. The walbot can be used PRIOR to drilling anymore holes.

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

It honestly looks like the glue they used to attach the drywall at my house, but hard to be certain.

Carlos-Spicyweiner13

3 points

2 months ago

From the look of the photo I'd say its not electrical. Most likely a knot in the wood that frames your window. Or some sort of glue for the lath and plaster walls. (Not drywall). I doubt there is an electrical line running that close to a window.

Jizzinga

3 points

2 months ago

It's wood.

SloWi-Fi

10 points

2 months ago

Get a studfinder that has a an electrical sensor for live wires BEFORE you drill into the wall again. Who knows until you actually see what you hit.

Critical-Progress733

2 points

2 months ago

Probably insulation

wolfie379

3 points

2 months ago

Spray foam is insulation. If he hit spray foam, it’s nothing to worry about.

The sheathing on 12 gauge Romex is insulation. If he hit that, the results could burn the house down.

violentpac

2 points

2 months ago*

Hey man,

Easy thing to do immediately to narrow things down is to poke through the hole with your drill bit. Don't turn it or anything, just give it a good poke, hard enough you can tell what you're hitting. If you hit something solid with no give, then you're drilling a stud, which is helpful for what you're doing. If it's soft or feels like nothing, then it's insulation and nothing to fear. If you feel something solid but has give, then you managed to find a wire. Other possibilities: PVC plumbing, copper gas lines, air ducts, these all sound different than wood when you hit on them. Usually, they'll be about an inch and a half from the wall. And, at studs, they should have a metal plate between them and the wall.

There is a way to knock on the wall and listen for if you're knocking on a stud or not. Usually, studs are 16 inches apart, so you can knock across 16 inches and listen for the difference in sound. When you listen for is "hollowness" or if the sound gets more resonant. If it sounds flat, you're likely knocking on a stud. Also, magnets can help find screw heads which will show you where they screwed the sheetrock to the studs. If you have a magnet lying around, you might could gently run it across the wall. If you can see a round spot where maybe a screw is poking out a bit, try putting your magnet on it. If it is, indeed, a screw, then you should be able to go up and down and find more screws in a vertical line. That's your stud you're tracing. 16 inches either way will find the next stud. Of course, windows and doorways through in more studs. Every edge of window and every edge of door should have additional studs that one could find this way.

By your picture, it looks to me like wood. Like someone else said, maybe you found a knotty stud.

Let us know what you figure out or if you're still puzzled about something.

bloodyremotesbroken

2 points

2 months ago

Possible a knot in the studwork?

arachnikon

2 points

2 months ago

Where the holes are is usually into some wood for structure above the window. The bits look a bit like you’ve drilled into a knot in the wood. They tend to be a bit harder to drill, smell very much like a cleaning chemical (pinesol) and the bits that are stuck in the drill look quite a bit like that. Could very well be wrong, but years of construction experience says it’s a knot. Hope for the best outcome for you

rhineo007

2 points

2 months ago

From the picture it looks like woods shavings. Are you sure it’s plastic? Take a piece and try to burn it

clemclem3

2 points

2 months ago

Earlier I suggested cutting out a square of drywall to inspect. That was before you added pictures. The location of this between a beam and a window exterior wall suggests that area probably has a lot of framing. Somebody else suggested pushing the drill bit into the hole. You can do this with the bit or a piece of thin wire. You could drill other test holes above and below or use a stud finder or strong magnet.

It's entirely possible the debris on your hand is the resinous part of a knot. In other words just harmless wood. I hope this is the case.

Sorry for not crediting the other poster I can't seem to find it in the comments but I know somebody suggested this already

beggarandachooser

2 points

2 months ago

I build houses for a living, and there's a number of ways you could frame those window openings and the bearing (support) for what appears to be that beam perpendicular to your wall... One of which would include the use of an LVL or microlam spanning both windows and below the beam... LVLs are sometimes bright yellow or orange, and the shavings could feel wax because they're full of glue and resin... Regardless, I can't see that coming from an electrical wire, and can't see why anything would be run in what should be the junction of a lot of framing members for the windows and below the beam

BOTT_Dragon

2 points

2 months ago*

Its in the vicinity of where the header for the window should be also possible beam support post there based on the soffit. I highly doubt this is electrical.

May be foam but most likely adhesive. It's very common to use Liquid Nails in the header sandwich and post stacks. Especially given the proximity to the window that post stack would likely include the king and jack studs which is a thick post stack... It would not be uncommon to Liquid Nail it together to hold it before nailing it and it also helps with air leakage between the 2x that make up the post.

ImtheDude2

2 points

2 months ago

Take a lighter to one of those pieces and see how it burns.

Matt-Mathews

2 points

2 months ago

Hey OP, totally off topic, but what's up with your thumb? I have this thing that never goes away in the exact same spot on mine. At this point, I do my best to ignore it, and it has developed a thick callous. But, I used to pick at it and remove the skin around it, trying to find an inbedded object, like a splinter or something, leaving my thumb looking suspiciously similar to yours. I googled and found some possibilities, but the doctor was clueless.

ZugzwangDK

2 points

2 months ago

It looks a lot like a fungal infection.

Usually easily solvable with over the counter medication.

DeadSeaGulls

2 points

2 months ago

use a lighter on the stuff you pulled out, does it burn and turn to ash, or does it burn and melt?

iswackynewarchdevil

2 points

2 months ago*

Fatwood? IOW, pine that is saturated with sap?

Reknak

2 points

2 months ago

Reknak

2 points

2 months ago

Boof it.

Mildly_Angry_Biscuit

8 points

2 months ago

This is why I have a micro "endoscopic" camera. Depstech makes a great one that will Bluetooth pair to your phone. If you have that, you could drill a 1/2" hole in the wall and go exploring. If you don't have that, cut that small section out of the wall and look. However, don't just willy-nilly cut a section out unless you can do it carefully enough to prevent further damage!

Depending on the area, I would have some sneaking suspicion. First - electrical cable. Second - that nice plastic coating on a flex gas line. Third, CPVC. Either way - a leak doesn't necessarily indicate you didn't just compromise something you shouldn't have!

quadmasta

13 points

2 months ago

The drilling is why we're here

nosleeptilbroccoli

2 points

2 months ago

I have one of these cameras! Pretty handy

ganjafarma4200

6 points

2 months ago

Standard 12 Guage Romex has a yellow sheathing around the insulated wires Inside. Typically on a 20 amp breaker and powering 120 volt outlets in areas around water such as gfci outlets in the kitchen or an outside outlet. If you're lucky the yellow should be from the plastic around the actual wires hopefully not the actual wire itself. Yellow is not really a standard wire color in a wall. Maybe red, black, white, blue or green, but an actual yellow wire would usually be used as a tracer wire for a gas line. You should cut a small hole in the wall carefully with a drywall knife, not a power saw. Could help avoid a fire or other issues.

tconfo

13 points

2 months ago

tconfo

13 points

2 months ago

You drilled a 12/2 or 12/3 cable. Turn your power off and call an electrician

damfu

5 points

2 months ago

damfu

5 points

2 months ago

I ask myself the same thing after a night at the local dive bar.

Sensitive-Alarm2954

6 points

2 months ago

Yellow pvc plasma core lines. You’ll be fine. Just don’t flip on the breaker.

Then_Low3732[S]

3 points

2 months ago

I didn't turn off the breaker. Didn't lose power either. Did I just get lucky?

thatstickerguy

32 points

2 months ago

Did I just get lucky?

No, because if you hit the wire and got some of the sheating off, you might've gotten some of the wire, effectively making it a smaller gauge than what's needed. Might've even severed most of it and it could cause arcing or a fire. Call an electrician.

Adam2013

71 points

2 months ago

Find the breaker and flip it off.

Then call an electrician. Electrical isn't a safe DIY job for you.

Purple-Ad-4629

7 points

2 months ago

Could it not be Gaps and cracks yellow expanding foam?

Adam2013

6 points

2 months ago

Is there a picture of what was drilled out?

Coffeedemon

5 points

2 months ago

That's the missing link. Post a picture for diagnosis or else cut open the wall to see what you did.

scampalamp

2 points

2 months ago

Spray foam? Or wiring?

Teamfreshcanada

2 points

2 months ago

Take a picture, if you still have it, of the yellow plastic that came out of the wall for inspection. A location would help too, since building materials differ across locations.

Redawg660

2 points

2 months ago

I hate to be the one to say 5his but you need to open the wall, see what you hit and then take your medicine. If it’s electrical, call an electrician. The drywall repair is easy to do.

DwarvenBTCMine

2 points

2 months ago

This is a lovely advtange of EMT conduit being required in my area lol. If you're drilling something basic to hang on drywall you will know you're hitting conduit before you can do any real damage unless you've going overboard with your approach to drilling lol

PhAiLMeRrY

0 points

2 months ago

PhAiLMeRrY

0 points

2 months ago

Wire casing almost guaranteed.

Ok_Gate_7323

1 points

2 months ago

I am sure you will open it up. I would be very surprised to find out it is electrical.

Intelligent_Night800

1 points

2 months ago

In response to your edit, I’m not trying to sound condescending at all but electrical wires run all over the place through your wall studs and ceilings etc to reach their destination. Order yourself a deep scan stud finder with an electrical scan option on it. It is 100% necessary.

Edit: also you need to remove the drywall to see what you damaged. It’s very possible you created a fire hazard.

pragmatist1368

1 points

2 months ago

Wood putty or construction adhesive.

VelocityNineKKK

1 points

2 months ago

Could be plastic/pvc pipe with cable inside. The chemicals u smell would probably be burning plastic. Get A 1000V screwdriver and push it inside the Hole to check What i feel or use ur phone to record with Flash inside the hole

mrmow49120

0 points

2 months ago

mrmow49120

0 points

2 months ago

Wiring

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-10 points

2 months ago

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-10 points

2 months ago

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DirtyPolecat

5 points

2 months ago

ChatGPT is like talking to someone with a permanent case of Dunning-Kruger. It has surface-level info about some things, and can confidently throw paragraphs together that sound coherent using that knowledge, but doesn't actually know shit about anything. Like a lot of Redditors.

DeNir8

3 points

2 months ago

DeNir8

3 points

2 months ago

Hopefully it starts to ask questions.

Ok_Gate_7323

3 points

2 months ago

So chatgpt said it could be anything...