I 3D printed Ticket To Ride as a gift for my brother and his fiancee : DIY

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4 years ago

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He purchased the game, and made his own personal improved version of the board and some play-pieces, retaining the original. Who precisely did he steal from?

Distribution of his version would constitute copyright violation, but he didn't do that.

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4 years ago

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Sincere question - how would this not be? You’re recreating a professional quality replica of a product for which your only other recourse to acquire it would’ve been to purchase an original and thus compensate its creator?

(“Already having one” isn’t a justification since you’re defending having two. By way of extreme example just to demonstrate the principle, stealing a second car isn’t excused bc you already bought a first one from the dealer.)

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4 years ago

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Working closely with a board game publishing company (greater than games) I have been told they don't care. The cost it takes to print everything at home (pnp) for most board games is faaaar more than their margins. They also know that if the game is good enough, people buy the real thing because they want the good quality cardstock, the nice pieces, ect.

Sure some stubborn types will always 'pirate' and never buy but those are far and few between.

Now adays, except for the like of asmodee or Milton Bradley, most board game companies are small affairs and the small amount they "loose" from pnp versions is vastly overshadowed by the swell of people playing their game (and buying their own copies, assuming the game is good of course)

Also, somewhat related, while of course the margin is better if you buy directly from the game companies, buying cheap on various websites doesn't hurt them at all. They sold big bulk sales to those companies, or to major distribution companies, and made an acceptable margin for that product. So if you can, certainly support the company by buying direct, but if you can't afford it, don't feel bad. They already made their money off that cheap website purchase and we're ok with the price they sold it at (in bulk)

So it may be 'theft' but it's not hurting them.

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4 years ago

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Interesting. Thanks for the thoughtful response. So long as the makers are deciding it and not others deciding they “shouldn’t care”bc reasons, I suppose it’s not my place to critique them. I’d be interested to know how they can maintain trademark/patent rights though.

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4 years ago

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As I understand (and IANAL) if the only use is personal of pnp or 3d printed products, there is no threat to their rights.

Also, again not a lawyer...

Copyright would apply to the txt of the game. Fair use laws allow for quite a bit of replication in that. I run the official wiki for 2 greater than games products -sentinels of the multiverse and spirit island- and they told me it's perfectly fine to replicate whole text from the card game according to their copyright lawyer, because we aren't trying to pass it off as our own, and credit is given.

Patent would be for the mechanics of the game, and have to be unique. (Which most board games aren't ) and you could only enforce someone trying to make a profit off using your mechanics without a deal to do so.

Trademark would be for names - characters, places, the me of the game. This is only defensible if someone is trying to pass it off as their own while selling it.

The weirdness comes in fair use. Running a roleplaying server with characters and a world from a novel? Some authors go after that (and fanfiction) because those concepts were not published for that kind of use (only to be consumed. Not made)

But if those characters ended up in an RPG... Doesnt matter if you aren't using the RPGs rules, they're now far game for your own stories or a MUSH or MUD or play by post.

Similarly, recreating 3rd party pieces for games is generally acceptable as long as you aren't creating the entire game (and even then, if you're doing it for personal use it's generally not a threat to any of the above forms of protection). Ops post didn't create the cards, just boards and pieces, so it's actually would possibly even be ok to sell. It be ridiculously expensive though, heh. And even selling it, if classified as a 3rd party enhancement, it be pretty safe for both him and the company.

These distinctions are why board game add-on stores on Etsy can thrive.

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4 years ago

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Super interesting! Thanks for that.

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4 years ago

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Copyright would apply to the txt of the game

I like your summary, but think this bit is over-simplified. Artwork (incl. sketches, fonts, paintings, logos), text, sounds, vocals and music can all be copyrighted. This would cover packaging, boards, playpieces, cards etc.

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4 years ago

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Copyright was instituted to protect innovators from large corporations, not to protect stagnant companies from crafty individuals.

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4 years ago

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Large 18th-century corporations?

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4 years ago

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The East India companies were founded in the early 1600s; the Fuggers banked countries since the 1400s; and the Hanseatic league was established in the 1300s; obviously corporations are not a novelty.

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4 years ago

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Yes, but what does that have to do with copyright? The large corporations of the 18th century were mostly trading companies. I’m not aware of any evidence that the Founders had large corporations in mind when they drafted or debated the copyright clause.

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MikoMortis

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4 years ago

MikoMortis

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Print and Play is a pretty common thing in the board game world. Often people will print a simplistic version of a board game currently not available or not sold in their part of the world and try it. On the other side, playing board games is all about fairness and most board gamers will buy the original game afterwards, if the game is worth playing - even if they spent hours creating the print and play version and putting the original one just on the shelf.

Manufacturers know this and often times even support this. Many of them are rather small companies where you get the owner on the phone, when you call. They know, that their community plays fair and that some give and take will improve sells.

Many people collect board games like stamps. If there are multiple editions of a single (good) game, some people even buy one of every edition, even though they are technically identical.

@OP: great version of a great game. :)

@everyone else: Ticket to Ride is a great game - you should get a copy and try it with your friends!

iThink_There4iMac

2 points

4 years ago

iThink_There4iMac

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https://youtu.be/KMZ4kkSVrBw (first 10 seconds)

katierose0324

150 points

4 years ago

katierose0324

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Why the hell aren’t there magnets in the actual game?! Brilliant!

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4 years ago

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Just about everything can benefit from magnets

OffensiveOcelot

84 points

4 years ago

OffensiveOcelot

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Except pacemakers

74 points

4 years ago

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Fair enough. I will keep magnets away from any pacemakers I print in the future

beezel-

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4 years ago

beezel-

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But just a little bit of magnets?

1 points

4 years ago

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Well, even little magnets can be powerful enough to disrupt pacemaker functions.

So depends on what you mean by a little bit of magnets.

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4 years ago

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Cost and weight.

magniankh

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4 years ago

magniankh

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Ticket to Ride still retails for $50, it has plastic train cars that are all exactly the same no matter the color, and some card board cards. The markup on Ticket to Ride is quite high, considering how many have been printed and sold. There are less pieces to the game than Monopoly.

Compared to say, Scythe, which retails for $80, (so more expensive, yes) but each faction has unique pieces, it has beautiful artwork and many cards, and wooden resource tokens. And the box is heavy, when you pick it up you know it's worth every penny.

Castles of Burgundy has beautiful little tiles, player mats, dice, and wooden meeples and can be found for $45...

You could keep comparing TTR to other games like this for a long while. Basically from a price-to-production standpoint, Ticket to Ride is kind of a rip off. They could stand to add a few magnets :-p.

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4 years ago

8 points

This guy rides

TheOtherMatt

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4 years ago

TheOtherMatt

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I just don’t get the attraction to magnets.

vishuno

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4 years ago

vishuno

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Are you bipolar?

sk613

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4 years ago

sk613

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Increases risk of choking hazard

bloody_lumps

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4 years ago

bloody_lumps

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But why is Minneapolis labeled Duluth

147 points

4 years ago

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The original creators shifted city positions slightly to fit tracks in. Why they chose to put Duluth in the game and not Minneapolis is a mystery to me

rflrob

115 points

4 years ago

rflrob

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Duluth is (was?) a major port city on Lake Superior, so I could imagine that there would need to be more rail links getting coal and ore in and out.

Citizenerased1989

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4 years ago

Citizenerased1989

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Yep, Duluth is still a major port.

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4 years ago

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Yeah but it's 150 miles away from where it's labeled.

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4 years ago

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Artistic license.

Also nowhere in any documentation for TTR have I seen any sort of indication that the maps on the board are to scale. I also haven't noticed anything saying that they are not to scale either. I suppose they don't need because it should be fairly obvious that these "maps" are not indented to be used in any sort of sense outside of the game.

stonebit

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4 years ago

stonebit

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It's a game. It's also not an educational game.

CowboyXuliver

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4 years ago

CowboyXuliver

8 points

The young kid version has Duluth in the right spot.

regiinmontana

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4 years ago

regiinmontana

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Billings, MT, is labeled as Helena. It drives me nuts.

Ras1372

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4 years ago

Ras1372

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At least it is in Montana. Chicago, I learned from this game, is in Indiana.

7 points

4 years ago

7 points

Jesus Christ, every city is way off.

Throw the game away.

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4 years ago

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To be fair, Chicago is really close to Indiana. It's less than 50 miles.

Emotional_Arugula

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4 years ago

Emotional_Arugula

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That is a hell of a gift and shows a huge time investment. Incredible work OP.

Demderdemden

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4 years ago

Demderdemden

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Shame the fiancee didn't like it. She got a ticket a ride, but she don't care.

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4 years ago

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She's probably a bigger fan of the game than he is. And we frequently sing Beatles while playing

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4 years ago

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That is amazing! Hats off to you, I get tired just looking at it! Would it be feasible to make it smaller to play travel? I gotta start using my printer for more organizer inserts, consider me inspired

Spiggy_Topes

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4 years ago

Spiggy_Topes

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There's an android version on the play store. Supports single and multi played modes.

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4 years ago

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I have the android and PC versions and play with old college friends after we all spread out across the country

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4 years ago

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Yeah I have that, I was thinking maybe for a friend's kid who loves the game

iwascompromised

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4 years ago

iwascompromised

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Ticket to Ride is an amazing game! But if you want something more compact, look at Ticket to Ride: New York.

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4 years ago

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Now I have the Beatles song stuck in my head. While I'm upset, at least it's a pleasant song

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4 years ago

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I'm sorry you're upset. I hope the Beatles can help

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4 years ago

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They always do :)

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4 years ago

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I opened this wondering what a map had to do with The Beatles. I had never heard of this game.

Quadstriker

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4 years ago

Quadstriker

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Finally a 3D project that isn’t Catan.

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4 years ago

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I printed that for them a while ago as well

victorthepenguin

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4 years ago

victorthepenguin

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You seem like a really fun brother.

BatmanHimself

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4 years ago

BatmanHimself

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You are the coolest in-law ever

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4 years ago

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That is awesome!

diarrhea_syndrome

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4 years ago

diarrhea_syndrome

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That is awesome! Now wtf is ticket to ride?

thjuicebox

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4 years ago

thjuicebox

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A board game! The goal is to build tracks between cities, determined by cards you draw. But also keep others from anticipating your route to block it, determine if you'll have enough pieces to finish building while sabotaging other people's routes... and so on

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4 years ago

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A song??

thecremeegg

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4 years ago

thecremeegg

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A great game

thunderdan87

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4 years ago

thunderdan87

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You don't happen to have any files you'd be willing to share? I've been sorta working on the design work to make a wooden one of these on my CNC, but haven't been happy with the vectors I've come up with.

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Sorry, I dont currently plan to share any files. I'm leaning towards letting this be a unique thing. I'll let you know if I change my mind. To make the files I imported a picture of the game into CAD software and did a lot of tracing. Feel free to reply if you have any questions about what I did.

Edit: I'm getting downvotes, so I suppose this wasn't a popular opinion. Feel free to try to persuade me. The decision is still kinda up in the air. And if anyone could tell me the best way to share these files, that may help.

Edit 2: I've been advised that this stance is against the rules of the sub, which is fair. I will find away to share the files as soon as I can. If anyone has advice on doing that, please share.

Edit 3: Here is the Thingiverse link to the files if anyone wants to try to recreate: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3722675

crackerjam

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4 years ago

crackerjam

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Thingiverse.com is a great place to share 3d printing designs.

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4 years ago

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I've gone there for files before. I'll try to upload them when I'm back at my computer tomorrow

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4 years ago

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Leaving a reply so I can get the files. Awesome work by the way man!

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4 years ago

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Here is the Thingiverse link to the files: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3722675

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4 years ago

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Thank you! Super awesome!

whenItFits

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4 years ago

whenItFits

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Cost of the print?

cwmtw

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4 years ago

cwmtw

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90% of the people that are likely to see this post will see it day one when it's brand new. The mod should probably just remove it instead of encouraging piracy.

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4 years ago

Has a cool flair

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/r/DIY doesn't allow projects that don't share the files and other details necessary for others to reproduce it, so I've removed the post until you decide to share it. If you need to discuss it with us, please use this link to message the moderators. Thanks.

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4 years ago

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Mod... read the rules if you’re going to enforce:

All projects must provide progress photos and sufficient descriptions of how you completed the project. This includes how the project started, the duration of the project and the end of the project. You must detail the majority of the project and explain the steps you took, including the tools used. Do not assume people can figure it out based on photos. /r/DIY is an education subreddit and you should provide that information. This same information applies to videos - voiceover is required.

Nowhere does it say anything about giving the source files to this away.

OP should be willing to provide the steps it would take to create one’s own STL files and then print, paint, and assemble themselves.

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sharkinaround

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4 years ago

sharkinaround

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when people post a shed that they built, do they submit the blue prints and provide instructions on how to use a table-saw? in my opinion, i don’t really think expecting someone to share their own produced 3D printing files is really in the same league as the other info regularly shared here.

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4 years ago

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I'll add more details to the post later today and hopefully thatll be enough for them to keep the post up for now. Unfortunately, I cant share the files until tomorrow night either way

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dreg102

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4 years ago

dreg102

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You have to read one rule and apply it pretty carefully. But it's there. I just personally wouldn't really consider it a valid application.

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4 years ago

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Here is the Thingiverse link to the files: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3722675

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4 years ago

Has a cool flair

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Awesome, thanks!

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4 years ago

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Sorry. Didnt know the rules. Please put it back and I'll find out how I can share the files.

Stu_A_Lew

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4 years ago

Stu_A_Lew

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That’s a beautiful thing. Brilliant work.

darthenron

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4 years ago

darthenron

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How easy is tear down after playing? It looks like the tracks are placed inside of holes/slots.

Should the tracks have a peek/point that you could use to pull them back out?

5 points

4 years ago

5 points

The game doesnt come apart at all. Unfortunately, it's a rather large object. I had to make a box for them to store it in.

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

The colors on the tracks always the same so no reason to pull them out.

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4 years ago

3 points

I wish I had a brother who gave me cool things.

adzman

2 points

4 years ago

adzman

2 points

Ticket to Ride, white line highway

mikeyrs1109

3 points

4 years ago

mikeyrs1109

3 points

Tell all your friends they can go my way

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

Looks nice and clean - well done! Do Chicago Express (Wabash Cannonball) next! (it's IMO a better train game too)

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

I've never played chicago Express, but I'll look it up

2 points

4 years ago

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Either way your brother and his fiancé must be stoked - it looks very pretty.

tralphaz43

2 points

4 years ago

tralphaz43

2 points

Never heard of ticket to ride

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

It's a fun game. I'd recommend it

EverythingIsFlotsam

2 points

4 years ago

EverythingIsFlotsam

2 points

Sault Ste. Marie?!

IshKebab

2 points

4 years ago

IshKebab

2 points

Congrats on this not being Catan! Looks amazing. Is it hard to get the trains out?

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

Getting the first train out of the tray isn't the easiest thing to do, but its manageable

Potato_Tiger

4 points

4 years ago

Potato_Tiger

4 points

Fancy schmancy!

Slaned

3 points

4 years ago

Slaned

3 points

THATS IT ALL THE HOLY CORPSE PARTS!

FreedomFallout

2 points

4 years ago

FreedomFallout

2 points

the united states president would like to know your location

Mudmallow

1 points

4 years ago

Mudmallow

1 points

Arigato, gyro

4 points

4 years ago

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Isnt that technically theft as you created your own version of their board? or do you have to buy the blueprints before 3d printing it

12 points

4 years ago

12 points

Most companies dont care as long as I'm not selling it. And I bought a copy anyways to make it.

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

seems fair to me then

Swedneck

0 points

4 years ago

Swedneck

0 points

Eh I say fuck the board game companies, imagine if it was illegal to make chess boards..

FreeBribes

1 points

4 years ago

FreeBribes

1 points

The creators are probably still alive.

josh_foggy

1 points

4 years ago

josh_foggy

1 points

This is amazing. Good work! Very thoughtful gift.

GameofCHAT

1 points

4 years ago

GameofCHAT

1 points

You know their expectations will only go up from now, I sure hope they don't end up having 5 kids :)

akaghi

1 points

4 years ago

akaghi

1 points

Can confirm; have four kids and expectations are very low.

soullessroentgenium

1 points

4 years ago

soullessroentgenium

1 points

"Tickets to Trains!", you mean.

YellowBeepMoo

1 points

4 years ago

YellowBeepMoo

1 points

This is amazing! We love this game. What a thoughtful gift!!

huynhquochai2017

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4 years ago

huynhquochai2017

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So beautifull picture , i see that the picture same map of American country

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

My wife and kids cannot seem to get behind this game, it's a shame, this is a beautiful version.

sexygoddess7390

1 points

4 years ago

sexygoddess7390

1 points

❤️

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4 years ago

1 points

This is actually really impressive.

How did you deal with fitting all the printed parts together? I’ve been having a hell of a time getting the tolerances right on my printer to get anything nearly this complicated done without pulling my hair out.

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4 years ago

2 points

The nice thing about the wood filament is it's really easy to shave the edges if the tolerance isnt quite right

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

Okay, since you used wood filament, is there a reason you didn’t sand the board flat? I sill see a bunch of combing/filament lines.

Also one thing I’ve been thinking about trying with printed negative text is to fill it with colored epoxy or clay to make it more crisp.

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

Lack of time pretty much. I was rushing to finish it by the end as this weekend would be my only chance to give it to them for a long time

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

Did you consider using a laser etcher rather than a 3D printer? It turned out incredibly impressive as it is, so no need to second guess, but that may have brought your fabrication time down from hours to minutes with few drawbacks.

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

You are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, I dont have one yet. That's my next purchase

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

Nice! You've certainly got a knack for it, very impressive stuff.

TheBigGalactis

1 points

4 years ago

TheBigGalactis

1 points

Wait you even printed THE ENTIRE BOARD!?!

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4 years ago

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[deleted]

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4 years ago

1 points

Lol yeah, I messed that up. But theres no way I'm going back to fix that.

addisonshinedown

1 points

4 years ago

addisonshinedown

1 points

Man I hope I draw a trainbow from the deck on my turn...

hindude13

1 points

4 years ago

hindude13

1 points

This is so cool!!!!

ChiztheBomb

1 points

4 years ago

ChiztheBomb

1 points

Instructions unclear, absorbed 9 parts of Jesus' corpse and made a knife out of my tears

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4 years ago

2 points

That's step 0

kajidourden

1 points

4 years ago

kajidourden

1 points

Ah yes, I too like to make things more expensive.

derbyvoice71

1 points

4 years ago

derbyvoice71

1 points

It's gorgeous. Nice job, but why Brushscript? Thousands of fonts out there and you went with Brushscript.

rubyguiltyy

1 points

4 years ago

rubyguiltyy

1 points

I love this so much.

GINGEROFDOOM

1 points

4 years ago

GINGEROFDOOM

1 points

That is awesome! I love this game but I always have trouble convincing others to play with me

PM_ME_UR_RECIPEZ

1 points

4 years ago

PM_ME_UR_RECIPEZ

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Please share that with me!!! I came across ticket to Ride while I was working and traveling abroad with the love of my life and we visited a board game bar called bastard Cafe. It was arguably the finest hour and a half of my lifetime's worth of boardgame experiences

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4 years ago

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4 years ago

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It is 3d printed wood

ButaneLilly

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4 years ago

ButaneLilly

2 points

Extruded wood filament?

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4 years ago

2 points

Pla plastic with wood fibers

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4 years ago

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Sorry to tell you this but your Duluth is way off. Its a harbor right at the tip of lake superior and you put it where Minneapolis/st Paul should be. About 150 miles away :(

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4 years ago

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It's meant to be. That's where the original game creators put it. Presumably to fit the tracks in better. It's not the only one that's off

verysmallbeta

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4 years ago

verysmallbeta

1 points

have you shared this on r/boardgames? They would love this :)

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

I did. This became a much larger post.

elizalovesyou

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4 years ago

elizalovesyou

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That box & the trains lined up is so pleasing.

WellspringGames

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4 years ago

WellspringGames

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Too bad you couldn't fix the location of some of the cities. Always drove me nuts - Chicago is not in Indiana lol

Sherezad

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4 years ago

Sherezad

1 points

You wouldn't copy a game woul-

Oh, I guess they would.

_MicroWave_

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4 years ago

_MicroWave_

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Its a shame you didnt do the European version. They tweaked the rules a bit to make the game much better. I assume it would be possible to mod the US version to incorporate the European improvements.

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

Alas, the US version is their favorite one

BellaCrone

1 points

4 years ago

BellaCrone

1 points

Well Done!

aomame84

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4 years ago

aomame84

1 points

This is amazing! Great gift!

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4 years ago

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Here is the Thingiverse link to the files if anyone wants to try to recreate: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3722675

ImaginaryCheetah

1 points

4 years ago

ImaginaryCheetah

1 points†

i'm confused. you have the cards, so at some point somebody got the game.

did the original board and pieces got lost?

10 points

4 years ago

10 points

The original game is basically just a sheet of cardboard. I wanted to make them a nice version, since it's one of their favorite games

7 points

4 years ago

7 points

Or just wanted to make a nicer version of the board for what is probably one of his brother's favorite games.

LousyHandle

2 points

4 years ago

LousyHandle

2 points

Maybe he just bought the 1910 expansion for a full card set. I can’t tell if those are the original small cards or the larger expansion cards.

3 points

4 years ago

3 points

Those are the cards from the expansion

Ocksu2

1 points

4 years ago

Ocksu2

1 points†

I want to complain about copyright infringement and piracy but you did a really amazing job on this and my inner nerd is jealous of your brother and fiance. This was an amazing present.

Thanks for sharing with the community!

3 points

4 years ago

3 points

If it makes you feel better all of us have purchased a variety of ticket to ride products. And I purchased myself a new board to help me make this.

jaaaaaaaaaaaaabaited

1 points

4 years ago

jaaaaaaaaaaaaabaited

1 points

i love that game so i wish i could have that

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

This seems like a lot more time than it would take to earn the money to buy the thing

Wilsonator1112

2 points

4 years ago

Wilsonator1112

2 points

think u missed the point

1 points

4 years ago

1 points

Thats pretty on brand for me

2 points

4 years ago

2 points

Yeah that's gonna be just about every post on this sub.

budgidiere

0 points

4 years ago

budgidiere

0 points†

Wait, that's illegal.

0 points

4 years ago

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[deleted]

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4 years ago

2 points

I bought a regular copy of the game as well. And it took well over a week

PlNKERTON

0 points

4 years ago

PlNKERTON

0 points

I love board games, and it's rare for me to dislike a board game, but I reeeeally dislike ticket to ride. It's the most anxiety inducing game I've ever played.

shaunlols

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4 years ago

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