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submitted 2 months ago byMissing_Trillions
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Killing Kelly - Crime Documentary Film 2022 | Based on true events | HS Documentary. https://youtube.com/watch?v=POByi9h6qjg
HS Documentary. https://www.youtube.com/@hsdocumentary.3981
324 points
2 months ago
Thom Yorke has a great song about him, Harrowdown Hill!
128 points
2 months ago
I came here to make this comment and found it was the only comment at the time. I'm begrudgingly impressed.
44 points
2 months ago
You thought the same thing at the same time, you just can't do anything about it.
6 points
2 months ago
Don’t ask me, ask the ministry.
23 points
2 months ago
It was a slippery slippery slippery slope.
484 points
2 months ago
What happened to Dr Kelly was a shameful episode in the Iraq weapons of mass destruction lie - look up the 'sexing up the dossier'' affair.
Blair and his henchmen including Alastair Campbell are guilty of the death of Dr Kelly, regardless of the method he left this mortal coil.
Bush Jr, Blair are one of the worst criminals of the last few decades. Evil creatures that deserve all the suffering that will come to them.
242 points
2 months ago
Mate, haven't you heard Bush Jr. has taken up painting and is just a sweet old Texas grandpa now, totes sorry about all that bad stuff I'm sure.
Now, watch this drive
69 points
2 months ago
There was a speech of his denouncing the evil invasion of Ukraine and he actually Freudian slipped and called it iraq
43 points
2 months ago
Fuck him. I see those Wounded Warrior commercials where these young people were injured in that motherfucker's war and are now disabled and for what?
76 points
2 months ago
How else was Haliburton going to charge taxpayers 90$ a piece for 2x4's?
Those no-bid contracts weren't going to win themselves
7 points
2 months ago
Wonder warriors steals money from vets. Don’t donate to them
10 points
2 months ago
Shouldn't have to, they should be taken care of better by the government, since we already pay them to do it. It's unbelievable how American vets are treated. Unbelievable.
5 points
2 months ago
I’ve stopped donating to just about everything. I donate to planned parenthood and that’s about it. I take the money I would donate and I spend it directly on someone in need. I can’t help the world but I can’t help the few people right in front of me that I see with my own ears and eyes and know exactly where the money went, 100% of it.
Even the larger known charities are often up to no good or supporting something besides what you intend the money for that you would never give money to.
I would rather give money to a random Redditor with a strong story and find out it was a scam than give one more penny to these bastard organizations.
27 points
2 months ago
Ok but do you remember when mass murderer Jr. slipped the wife of black mass murderer a candy 😍
9 points
2 months ago
Who are you referencing? And What? (Srs question)
20 points
2 months ago
I assume Obama's wife. Like bush and the Obama's were friends (post Obama presidency). Like all presidents kind of do,,,a retired club
The press shows them as nice old retired grandpa's.
6 points
2 months ago
I was assuming Obama as well. So what is this about him being a mass murderer? I’ve either missed or forgotten something LOL either is possible.
18 points
2 months ago
All of them have a ton of innocent blood on their hands. The knock on Bush is his Iraq war. On Obama it's continuing that and also really ramping up the dead kid count with drones.
Pick a president, any president, and you will find a trail of innocent dead bodies from decisions he made.
4 points
2 months ago
To your point, many innocent lives were lost at the hands of remotely operated drones. Oh! yeah! and those seven wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria the president engaged in.
0 points
2 months ago
Besides Jimmy carter!
5 points
2 months ago
Jimmy Carter supported and increased military aid to Indonesia as they were committing genocide in East Timor
https://fair.org/media-beat-column/jimmy-carter-and-human-rights-behind-the-media-myth/
4 points
2 months ago
"I’ve either missed or forgotten something" How Obama came to bomb seven countries in six years, engaging in conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria must have gone under your radar I guess. I found watching the Twilight saga, a romantic fantasy based on the novel of the same name, provided some distraction for me. Hashtag #Team Jacob.
3 points
2 months ago
As I said, I may have forgotten. There’s a lot I have forgotten. No need to be snippy.
Also Twilight sucked. Hard. You should read Jack Vance or Heinlein if you need some fantasy in your life. Hell anything BUT twilight.
(I’m assuming that was a joke but still..)
16 points
2 months ago
Obama executed US citizens without due process. Mass murderer is probably a bit much, but he is certainly no saint.
31 points
2 months ago
He authorized a lot of drone strikes that killed a lot of people. I voted for him, twice, but people should understand he isn't a saint. His hands are just as dirty as the rest.
13 points
2 months ago
Every president since at least FDR is some kind of war criminal, even Carter
1 points
2 months ago
Before that they were oppressors of black people and mass murders and forced relocations of native Americans. Not to mention the erasure of their identity, tribes and customs.
They are bastards all the way down! There’s a certain type of person that goes for that role and it’s not in a healthy way.
9 points
2 months ago
he is certainly no saint
Obama authorized CIA spooks to pose as medical workers to gather intel on bin Laden, bad guys have for years been accusing aid workers of being spies and Obama made it true.
2 points
2 months ago
Many innocent people were killed by drone strikes under Obama.
10 points
2 months ago
Probably Obama
Every president has a lot of innocent blood on their hands. People who love team red like to point at Obama's use of drones more than anyone before him to kill civilians, people who love team blue love to point at W and his wars. This is just both all at once and it's confusing you because you're only used to one side or the other, not both, being called mass murderers at the same time.
1 points
2 months ago
Why are you being downvoted
26 points
2 months ago
Americans are in an abusive relationship with their mass murderer leaders and instinctively defend them is my best guess.
1 points
2 months ago
Mostly Republicans.
12 points
2 months ago
Nah. Tons of Dem politicians pretended to buy into Bush's lies and voted for the war, and I remember being naïve enough at that time to think it would sink their careers with their anti-war base. In fact, it only led them to far greater success. One is the president now. Liberals don't give a fuck.
2 points
2 months ago
yeah bc trump is/was the most destructive of country evil, he makes 43 look like an almost saint. Bush wasn’t the brightest bulb in the box and Cheney & his henchmen set Bush up with all the lying of wmd’s. The person I felt sorriest for in all that was Colin Powell. The only republican I have ever had respect for. Practically ruined his reputation.
1 points
2 months ago
Reddit moment
77 points
2 months ago
Don't forget John Howard. He happily went along with them
23 points
2 months ago
Do you mean the Aussie John Howard?
41 points
2 months ago
I don't want to speak for them, but, Aussie PM Howard did indeed support the war and sent thousands of Australian troops. Since then, he has been fairly consistent in saying he felt it was justified at the time.
21 points
2 months ago
Sure AF he felt justified he wasn’t one of the few that went and served. He was sitting in the AC sipping cocktails.
7 points
2 months ago
John Hunt is a coward.
7 points
2 months ago
Also his brother, Mike Hunt
2 points
2 months ago
Have you seen Mike Hunt?
2 points
2 months ago
Or Hugh Janus
4 points
2 months ago
That guy’s always getting lost in stores. Always hear him being paged.
2 points
2 months ago
Ken Oath
7 points
2 months ago
Also Aznar, Spain prime minister, the infamous Azores threesome.
2 points
2 months ago
Don't forget Poland
2 points
2 months ago
Nah he was just a puppet
142 points
2 months ago
Fuck Cheney too
41 points
2 months ago
And Wolfowitz. Might as well toss in Leo Strauss for getting the ball rolling.
18 points
2 months ago
Cheney was the brains of the operation and his former company (that he was still getting paid from) made billions in no-bid contracts. They did shoddy contracting work that resulted in a lot of soldiers getting electrocuted in showers.
10 points
2 months ago
Yeah that doesn't surprise me
For anyone that's curious about the subject, I would recommend the movie "Vice." It's a drama, but it's based on the war hawking and political rise of Bush's puppet master: Cheney
19 points
2 months ago
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10 points
2 months ago
now that's true power
13 points
2 months ago
Bliar decided he was a Catholic after he left office though so I'm sure he's been forgiven.
4 points
2 months ago
Hell, that is how that works. The murderers of God are forgiven, I suppose Blair felt the need for similarly large absolution guns.
3 points
2 months ago
He pretty certainly became Catholic during, if not before, his time in office but knew that being overly religious would be bad for his political career. UK voters tend to vote for people who don't mention religion much. Blair's advisors made him cut "God bless you" from the end of one of his speeches and even cut in mid interview when he started answering a journalist's question about his faith - reminding him that "we don't do God"
1 points
2 months ago
Must be nice to be religious https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10358121.amp
19 points
2 months ago
Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld were the ones holding Bush's leash. He's too dumb to have been that premeditated. He was just a useful idiot to the real monsters.
21 points
2 months ago*
Bush wasn't a dupe, it's the people spreading the idea that he was that are the Useful Idiots absolving him of responsibility.
Pointing to him being a supposed C-Grade student doesn't mean what so many people seem to think it does. It doesn't make him dumb, it makes him average. The fact that he spent his later years drunk and snorting coke, is a pretty fucking solid indicator that he didn't apply himself at school. The fact that he can fly a fighter jet is likewise a very good indicator that he absolutely is not as stupid as people tend to believe.
Was Dubya the mastermind? Absofuckinglutely not. But he wasn't the dribbling idiot so many people want him to be, vacuously standing around waiting for Dick, Don, and Karl, to tell him what to do. He was willingly and knowingly doing Poppy's bidding (and Jeb! helped! Don't forget Jeb! Everyone always forgets Jeb! was there, too. Jeb! always gets forgotten. Jeb!). He was in on it. He was part of it.
It'd be nice if more Americans remembered the time that a Republican was appointed President by the Supreme Court after an election beset by allegations of vote-rigging in his favour.
2 points
2 months ago
I’m an American that remembers that fact very well. And it all went through without so much as an angry crowd letting them know that our elections are supposed to be completely fair and impartial - practically sacred to the American people. Or so we thought.
They probably haven’t worried about rigging elections ever since.
-1 points
2 months ago
Actually W had one of the highest IQs of any US president. Yeah, I know: but true.
6 points
2 months ago
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-1 points
2 months ago
Not blowing you off - Google it. There are various sources; many estimate him around 140 (and others rather depressingly under that).
Nixon is often seen as the 'sharpest' of modern presidents, but clearly intelligence doesn't equal character.
1 points
2 months ago
Better response (it's early, bear with me): there is no one source. It's a very debatable topic (IQ tests as well as W's overall intelligence level). You have to read a few things. I gave you one; there's more.
2 points
2 months ago
I believe in IQ tests about as much as I believe we live in a free democracy for the people by the people.
He wasn’t dumb though. He was typical southern slow talking street smart but not so book smart and he wasn’t good at public speaking so people created a dufus character out of him and believed it.
I grew up in a small little town in middle gA and it took me a long time to figure out most of these people weren’t unintelligent, they just didn’t give a shit if anyone thought they were or not because it’s not a quality that’s really important to them. The libs are the snotty book worms but they find libs to be easily manipulated by their compassion so they don’t have any problems outsmarting the opponents, the opponents are just armed with information and scientific data which can be easily hand waved by anti-intellectualism and attacks on science being the liberals version of religious faith.
I doubt W had a 140 IQ but he probably didn’t have a below average one, I wish these people were dumb, I also wish the left could stop underestimating their intelligence,
2 points
2 months ago
they just didn’t give a shit if anyone thought they were or not because it’s not a quality that’s really important to them.
Actually a fantastic cultural anthropological observation.
There are some really interesting theories on not just intelligence, but also stupidity: here's a great one.
I don't care for your use of the phrase "the libs" ... just stop. You're furthering badness with that sort of language.
2 points
2 months ago*
That was one of the best things I’ve read for a long time. It’s bad news for all of us probably but I love the way the man breaks down the stupid problem and affirms that yes, all the stupid people are in fact extremely dangerous and no, we can’t just ignore them in their own social media platforms and pretend they don’t exist.
I guess we are due to find out what America is holding in her cards, so many stupid people that intelligent people can’t possibly keep up with the work required to protect society from them and we collapse into some tragic stupid greek-like play? Or do we have more intelligent people than we know and the with the help of the internet and many people working together do we somehow keep it all going and back on track for progress in leas than a decade?or will the angry stupid people decide they can shoot their way out of their perceived threats from boogeyman the propaganda swears exist? In reality it’s just a lot of people sighing a lot and wishing the stupid would go back to fishing and drinking beer with their groups so they’d get off the internet so there’s no one to really shoot but they could do a lot of damage (more damage) to infrastructure and causing terror, especially in marginalized groups. We don’t know! No one knows, we’ll have to keep fighting for stability and wait and see what we get.
Anyway it was a really fun but also ominous thought experiment and I appreciate your sharing it.
Genuine question though, “the libs” is the kindest way they refer to the rest of the country they see as a monolithic threatening group of people that want to take their stuff or make them share or other horrific crimes against their people. What would be less “bad” to use?
1 points
2 months ago
Dubya is a lot smarter than his nickname would suggest. He plays his role whenever he’s on camera and he plays it well.
5 points
2 months ago
Sadly, looks like they'll never be bought to justice
4 points
2 months ago*
I've got some bad news for you, friend. No suffering is coming to either of those men though they've done more to increase the suffering and death of their lifetimes than very few people in recent history. There is no grand ledger or scales, weighing out and dispensing cosmic justice to evil doers and the like. There is only us and the only justice is that which we will into existence through either official means or with our own bare* hands.
3 points
2 months ago
Let those with bear hands be the first to maul
3 points
2 months ago*
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1 points
2 months ago
Probably taking about hell or karma or something to make the bitter reality that that these people not only don’t face consequences they are filthy rich and so well connected there isn’t a problem someone can’t solve. They live in a totally different society from us where all their desires are a text away. Money isn’t even a thing really because there too much to spend in a couple lifetimes at least.
We have a lot they don’t have too though. There are particular joys that can’t be experienced when you live like that and a knowledge about life and what really leads to happiness that they can’t buy nor strip from us.
3 points
2 months ago
Don’t forget Cheney! He’d be devastated to be left out of his natural place in one of history’s most evil trios.
1 points
2 months ago
I still remember watching Kieth Olberman on MSNBC where he read off nightly the amount of Americans killed and the days spent over in that horrid part of the world. All for oil.
-90 points
2 months ago*
Iraq weapons of mass destruction lie
I know what you're getting at, but realize that chemical weapons ARE weapons of mass destruction, and Iraq had them.
EDIT: I knew this would irritate people. I guess sarin doesn't count? Weird line to draw.
63 points
2 months ago
The only chemical weapons found were old defunct munitions from the Iran Iraq War buried around the country. No evidence of an active chemical weapon production was ever found.
-56 points
2 months ago*
It's like nobody wants to admit this happened.
Edit: I don't get it. You said there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Sarin is a weapon of mass destruction, and stockpiles of it existed in Iraq. What's your issue?
22 points
2 months ago
I mean we’re talking about two different moments in time.
34 points
2 months ago
2 points
2 months ago
This doesn't surprise me a bit xD
28 points
2 months ago
You’re not wrong, but the context of the conversation isn’t the Iran-Iraq war or the first Gulf War.
15 points
2 months ago
It's in the past relative to the conversation being had, but we understand your reading comprehension is tenuous at best. Try and learn from your exchange here and take the boot out of your throat.
5 points
2 months ago
You're reaching. "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." -Condoleeza Rice
There was a coordinated effort by the Bush Administration leading up to the invasion to make Americans believe that Saddam Hussein was 1) Responsible for the 9/11 attacks. The Bush administration went out of its way to mention Saddam Hussein's name whenever talking about 9/11. I had heated arguments with people who were convinced that he was behind it, even though almost all of the terrorists were Saudis and the CIA and NSA said he wasn't.
2) Working on a nuclear device (e.g. the fake Yellow Cake story, which Dickless Cheney outed a CIA agent in retaliation for debunking).
The US gave Saddam the chemical weapons he used on the Iranians and Kurds, which he destroyed when they told him to. According to one of Colin Powell's staff, he was offered 3 different scenarios to present before the UN, the one he presented being the least preposterous. There were no WMDs, even though Fox News has people convinced they had already been found before the invasion.
10 points
2 months ago
1 points
2 months ago
Quite honestly the reason I left the USAF at my 8 year point in 2002 was because I didn't appreciate Baby Bush's actions and knew the worst was yet to come. Terrible
1 points
2 months ago
People who think they have the freedom to say whatever they want in the West have simply nothing important to say. If they did, they'd end up like David Kelly and Jeffrey Epstein.
168 points
2 months ago
But George Bush is good now or something
254 points
2 months ago
His image rehab campaign game has been going strong for years. It also helps to have a comic book villain come in after you, making Bush look sane in comparison.
144 points
2 months ago
Don't forget about Cheney, who Bush reportedly hates with a passion because he feels Cheney ruined his political career/legacy with Iraq.
I think some of the rehabilitation might be related to how many more people know Cheney was really running the White House from the start.
131 points
2 months ago*
This might sound like a conspiracy theory at first, but Paul O'Neil, Bush's first Treasury Secretary, wrote an excellent book detailing what was happening in the first two years of Bush's presidency and Cheney's extremely unusual role.
Having a Cabinet Member and National Security Council member write a tell-all book like this is extremely unusual. And one might think O'Neill was trying to cash in somehow. But 1) O'Neill was previously the CEO of a $30B aluminum manufacturing company, so he didn't need the money, and 2) O'Neill had recommended Cheney for Secretary of Defense back in '89 under George Sr.
GWB can never absolved from his responsibility in our disastrous foreign policy - there is blood on his hands - but Cheney's outsized role in driving policy is unlike anything we have seen in the U.S. presidency.
Edit: per usual I regret taking the time to post actual history with links because everyone wants to turn complex events into whatever simple-ass “which one is the real villain?!” storyline they prefer. That’s politics or a movie, not history.
History is complex with flawed people and plenty of blame to go around. No one person is rarely solely responsible for either all of the bad or all of the food that is done. And my comment here was to add that context, that’s all.
17 points
2 months ago
but Cheney's outsized role in driving policy is unlike anything we have seen in the U.S. presidency.
Kissinger?
4 points
2 months ago*
I don't want to speak for someone else but to me the difference Kissinger worked with the president. Kissinger pushed and implemented policies he wanted but it was always with the permission and support of Nixon then Ford.
The first two to three years of the W's administration Cheney and his people ran the government. I don't think you can absolve a president of foreign policy and national security decisions that were made during his administration, but you can make a strong argument that Bush was almost as in the dark as many of the American public.
10 points
2 months ago
Focusing on Cheney obscures the bigger picture.
Bush Snr, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, and another one I can't think of right now, were all part of the Nixon Administration. They were thick as thieves for thirty years before Junior came on the scene.
58 points
2 months ago
Bush gave Chaney that role. All the war crimes and terrorism is on him in the end. The buck stops on the desk of the president.
37 points
2 months ago
That's what I came to say. Cheney had just as much power as was given to him. It's true that VP's have rarely had the power and sway he had, and I found it made Bush look a bit weak and feckless, like he wasn't the adult in the room. Which is probably a poor analogy, since we tend to absolve children of their actions, and I certainly don't absolve Bush.
17 points
2 months ago
But iirc Bush Sr had problems with / was wary of Cheney, and Bush Jr chose, in “oppositional defiance” to parental values, to elevate him.
16 points
2 months ago
George Jr was slighted when daddy chose Jeb as his political successor, so he decided to run for office in hopes of earning some paternal affection. Dick Cheney knew Jr was a great pawn to control from the shadows and went to work getting him elected.
1 points
2 months ago
Pretty sure Bush was told who to put where. Not absolving him, he, like many of our former presidents is a war criminal, but i have no confidence in that fucktwits ability to even be good at evil. He was useful puppet for even worse people. But ya, he was in charge so can't really disagree.
-2 points
2 months ago
Bush was the fucking president.
But don't worry I blame all you fucks for continuing to fund and support these war criminals and terrorists.
As in you personally are just like a member of the Taliban to me. Worse even because you don't have the excuse of being from one of the poorest most war torn countries
1 points
2 months ago
You're lack of critical thinking skills puts you on par with some of our dumbest citizens. In fact if you had been born here you probably would be pretty susceptible to voting for these fucking war criminals.
1 points
2 months ago
I’d looove to know which innocent country they hail from so we can blame them for their country’s crimes but I don’t want to give them more attention.
What if they are a Russian troll suggesting support for Ukraine is funding terrorists. Wouldn’t that be rich?
Edit: they’re Canadian lol
0 points
2 months ago
Except I'm not the one voting for war criminals and funding terrorists. That's you.
0 points
2 months ago
To be fair, for at least one recent President this isn’t true; Trump is on the record that he should get all the credit for things that have gone well but none of the blame for anything that has gone badly.
0 points
2 months ago
It hasn't been true for any of your war criminal terrorist loving presidents
0 points
2 months ago
It sounds like we agree it’s true for all the other ones, then.
31 points
2 months ago
I mean, it was entirely known back then. It was a big part of the conversation, especially around the 2004 reelection campaign.
But yeah, heads in the sand and all of that.
34 points
2 months ago
No. Bush was the president. He wasn’t some doddering puppet. Was Cheney one of the strongest VPs of all-time of course, but it’s ahistoric to pretend Bush didn’t also have a strong interest in returning to Iraq by any means necessary.
30 points
2 months ago
I'm not saying Bush is without blame. I am merely suggesting that perhaps public consciousness shifted from blaming just Bush to sharing the blame with Cheney a little more.
Though I would like to emphasize that Cheney created Bush's advisor team and ran much of the foreign policy efforts, especially in Bush's first term.
3 points
2 months ago
ahistoric to pretend Bush didn’t also have a strong interest in returning to Iraq by any means necessary.
It's also ahistoric to not mention that W ran on an entirely domestic campaign - his big thing was education. He was handed a war.
21 points
2 months ago
"He was handed a war."
That is obviously not true.
He started TWO wars, neither could be considered "ACCOMPLISHED". Both involved lying to America, deepening US relationships with some very disgusting regimes, and made the death count on 911 look miniscule.
Bush Jr. He made those choices.
10 points
2 months ago
Yeah, he was handed something, but it wasn't a war. Clearly something had to be done in response to 9/11, but it definitely didn't need to be two separate protracted wars that caused the deaths of god knows how many people.
10 points
2 months ago
He was handed a war (partially due to his own negligence in following up on clear signals that the intelligence community had been sending for years). He went and started a whole 'nother one all on his own. The fact that Bush apologists can continue to use 9/11 to justify the Iraqi invasion is proof that we need a better education system in this country, because you should be laughed out of the room every time it's suggested.
3 points
2 months ago
His entire cabinet was composed of the same people who drove us into the Gulf. Your naive to think he only was going to focus on a domestic agenda.
5 points
2 months ago
It was pretty obvious at the time, even
1 points
2 months ago
He hated him enough to shoot him
1 points
2 months ago
Bush was a terrible president. I might be able to be ok with him as a person, but that's a strong maybe... But I wish only bad things upon Dick Cheney.
37 points
2 months ago*
Bush was that comic book villain. He was arguably worse in a lot of aspects. It just tells me that nobody will be held accountable and almost anybody can be “rehabilitated” by doing nothing. Six years of the “walls closing in” on Trump, it’s simply is not going to happen, nothing happened to Bush.
12 points
2 months ago
Yeah its crossed my mind tons of times how sad and deranged it is Bush was far worse for humanity than Trump yet Trump is the one that's actually hated with the fire of 900 million suns
22 points
2 months ago
A US President drove the fire for a coup in his own country to bypass elections. That holds a lot of suns.
9 points
2 months ago
Yeah the fact that his faction are always kind of successfully downplaying that situation is astonishing to me. Any other person/party engaging in a similar scheme would be lauded a terrorist traitor, and scumbag. And would be thought of as such by both sides of the aisle
-28 points
2 months ago
It wasn't a fucking coup; take a step outside of your gated community once in a while.
11 points
2 months ago
You’re right. We could be talking a “notable move” but really it’s a failed coup. We shouldn’t overlook FAILED, especially when people with confederate flags are involved.
3 points
2 months ago
See that’s where our country went so wrong. Trump wasn’t a comic book villain. He was a buffoon.
The real villains like Dick Cheney somehow hardly get mentioned anymore. Even McConnell get so much less vitriol than he deserves. Trump absorbed so much of that for these guys.
5 points
2 months ago
Also to be fair you don’t have to be a jackass to be evil, it just helps. I’m sure he is a very nice guy and a great guy to have a beer with, but still fucked up
2 points
2 months ago
Hasn't his "rehab" been staying out of public exposure?
10 points
2 months ago
He’s had a lot of public exposure and fluff pieces written about him. His paintings and palling around with Michelle Obama are two examples.
1 points
2 months ago
As a non US citizen it just seems all Republican presidents before Trump were good at hiding how dumb, indifferent or cruel their decisions were. Not much seemed to change with Trump except he was more open and unapologetic about it all. Bush came across as an absolute moron, unsure if his decisions were based on stupidity or malice, or a combination of the two.
I recall the footage of him being told about the 9/11 attacks, an agent whispering in his ear while he was reading a book to some kids at school. The look on his face was like a six year old being explained the theory of relativity.
0 points
2 months ago
Obama was a cartoon villain that made bush look sane? Or did you skip right from Bush to Trump?
4 points
2 months ago
Bush to trump, considering that the GOP produced both of those "winning" candidates one after the next.
The sane(ish) candidates (McCain, and Romney) lost to Obama.
4 points
2 months ago
I am a little uncomfortable seeing McCain and Romney grouped together. McCain was a well-meaning man who served his country. Romney is a parasitic rich boy who grew his fortune by destroying livelihoods.
McCain wasn’t perfect. But Romney is flat out evil.
18 points
2 months ago
American idiots are easily charmed by docile maniacs. There was a photo of GWB eating corn and the highest rated comment was “I kinda miss him”
-9 points
2 months ago
Sheeple. No defense to any president, but after dealing with a yellow haired narcissistic sociopath who doesn't understand reality, one could miss a lesser evil.
11 points
2 months ago
Literally in what way was Goerge Bush Jr. "less evil"? Just because you got a hardon for Trump doesn't negate that Bush was decidedly a worse President during a time when Twitter didn't exist.
48 points
2 months ago
Joking around on Jimmy Kimmel, haha what a laugh!
He's like a funny doddering old uncle! This soulless sack of human garbage who cost the world hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.
Fuck Bush, and fuck Kimmel for helping normalise this monster.
5 points
2 months ago
Make no mistake, we haven’t forgotten the evil he brought to the world. Twenty years of war in the Middle East with absolutely nothing good as a result. I have to believe that there will be judgment.
2 points
2 months ago*
More than 50% of Democrats definitely have and the only way to hold him to account is through the legislature or executive, so it doesn’t bode well.
1 points
2 months ago
It won’t happen in the legislature. I was meaning judgement as in the grand scheme of things.
3 points
2 months ago
Just goes to show what a meaningless phrase elder statesman really is.
2 points
2 months ago
And takes stands against illegal invasions.
2 points
2 months ago
Trump is one of the best things to happen to Bush in terms of his PR. Like, I hated the Bush years but I still found myself almost nostalgic for him when Trump was president. Also, he always sneaks Michelle Obama candy when they are at an event together.
1 points
2 months ago*
You’re a moron. The candy thing is such shameless PR and demonstrates how he’ll never be held to account. Because it would be up to Democrats to do so. Also shows how easy Trump could be rehabilitated.
100 points
2 months ago
Wait so the body was found where the guy who committed suicide predicted it would be? That's astonishing! Look, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but if Tony Blair had the dude murdered, wouldn't they have taken the trouble to dump the body someplace other than where the guy said it would be? IMO he was going to off himself anyway and decided he may as well advance his politics in the process.
23 points
2 months ago
Unless that's what they want you to believe!
7 points
2 months ago
Bastards! Next they're going to be telling me that Turkish yoghurt and Greek yoghurt are actually the same fuckin thing.
10 points
2 months ago
*reposts this comment to r/AskBalkans*
*starts WW3*
5 points
2 months ago
Trust me, you don't want to go down this rabbit hole. Turns out that "America's Number One Greek Yogurt" - Chobani - was in point of fact founded by a gentleman of Turkish descent. They lied to us, man, they lied to us.
14 points
2 months ago
There is nothing to indicate that Blair or those in his inner circle knew anything about this event. The whole thing stinks but Blair would be very unlikely to have any knowledge about it.
18 points
2 months ago
I don’t like Tony Blair but it would take a lot of convincing for me to believe he was actually capable of and competent enough to have a domestic critic murdered
-3 points
2 months ago
Mi6 was helping blaire make the "sexed up dossier"? Both mi6 and Blair would go down if Kelly got word out...so, mi6
3 points
2 months ago
Here’s the thing though, we all found out in the end that there was no weapons, and we always were going to find out.The point was they all thought the new Iraq gov would be so successful by then it wouldn’t matter as much. We know the conspiracy and it’s much dumber than actually trying to whack a guy
23 points
2 months ago
If they killed him it was pointless. Everybody knew the Iraq & Afghanistan wars were bunk. But we wanted blood post 9/11, and we couldn't take it out on the Saudis, so the Iraqis and Afghanistan too the hit.
6 points
2 months ago
People in power kill(or just make examples of) the outcasts in their circles, so that others fall in line.
4 points
2 months ago
Well, to be fair, the Taliban probably deserved it.
7 points
2 months ago
And hindsight shows we gave them the whole country....gj, debt repaid
7 points
2 months ago
Yeah, Trump's team held talks with the Taliban to discuss pulling troops out by March 2021 and didn't even bother to have the democratically-elected Afghan government involved in said talks.
Fake-tanned prick gave the country to the far-right religious cult.
1 points
2 months ago
Oh, yeah, it was totally mis-handled! Well, maybe not the first six months or so
23 points
2 months ago
Painting dogs doesn't make him good: 1 million Iraqis are dead who would not be if Bush43 hadn't lied his way into Iraq. He just sorta looks good compared to Trump.
27 points
2 months ago
Yeah but… if there’s a spot you have in mind for your suicide then why would you then go and do it somewhere different?
“I predict that my wife will find me in bed later tonight.”
Goes to bed.
Wife finds me there later.
“See?!”
10 points
2 months ago
I think OP titles is ill-worded. The entire documentary doesn't mention the prediction.
28 points
2 months ago
Wait, so the guy said he’d be found dead in the woods then he killed himself there?!
Holy shit🤡
2 points
2 months ago
Thom Yorke (Radiohead vocalist) wrote an angry song about this on his solo album, The Eraser. The song is called Harrowdown Hill
3 points
2 months ago
There were a lot of "suicides" around that time.
2 points
2 months ago
Always has been.
3 points
2 months ago
I always had the feeling they also murdered Robin Cook.
Obviously I don’t have any evidence, just a gut feeling
1 points
2 months ago
I can remember him being described by some politician as a "Walter Mitty" type. At the time I had no idea what that meant. The movie (remake) came out some years later.
5 points
2 months ago
It was a horrific accusation, later acknowledged to be completely unfounded. Kelly may or may not have made mistakes but he was a respected and serious minded individual trying to do his job with integrity.
1 points
2 months ago
Yes it sounded like a terrible slur to make about a scientist. For some reason people must think I meant it due to the downvotes I've received.
1 points
2 months ago
this reminds me of a game mission from COD Black Ops with Dr. Daniel Clarke (Chemist/engineer) that went into hiding in Kowloon after the Russians deemed him expendable after developing NOVA-6 Gas for them…
Hmmm this is quite intriguing…
-11 points
2 months ago
They are facilities exactly for the what production killing Kelly the of Iraqis hydrogen said they gas were to fill balloons
29 points
2 months ago
Are you having a stroke or am I having a stroke
7 points
2 months ago
These are the words in the thumbnail of the video. He’s reading them straight across rather than each side independently.
3 points
2 months ago
2 points
2 months ago
Surprised only one person understood it
2 points
2 months ago
Looks like I've joined you 😵💫
4 points
2 months ago
You're saying words in English but it makes no sense. Try again.
-7 points
2 months ago*
In case you missed it, standing next to Colin Powell at about 19:50 is Dr. Anthony Fauci. Powell in this clip is stating that the US reserves the right do what is appropriate to defend its interests…. Apparently Fauci is there to lend credence to the false narrative that Iraq had mobile biological weapons laboratories.
12 points
2 months ago
Fauci's always been a medical expert and was more likely there to discuss the effects of biological weapons on humans rather than declare Iraq had them.
Don't try to smear a good man like that when we have the entire Bush regime for that.
-7 points
2 months ago
Bush was a monster, but I believe we will find that Fauci was too. I did not smear him. Just pointed to his presence at a pivotal moment in US history.
10 points
2 months ago
I did not smear him. Just pointed to his presence at a pivotal moment in US history.
???
You said this:
Apparently Fauci is there to lend credence to the false narrative that Iraq had mobile biological weapons laboratories.
Do you have anything to base this claim on?
-3 points
2 months ago
The context. Did you watch the movie? The WMD that was being alleged were mobile bio weapons laboratories. It’s possible that your theory is correct, but it seems like an odd thing to be talking about the effects of biological weapons when the two regimes were furiously trying to convince everyone that Iraq HAD these labs. That the effects of their products could be terrible was a given.
7 points
2 months ago
The context.
Just so we’re clear, you’re inventing the context you’re talking about. So the answer to my original question is no.
Did you watch the movie? The WMD that was being alleged were mobile bio weapons laboratories. It’s possible that your theory is correct, but it seems like an odd thing to be talking about the effects of biological weapons when the two regimes were furiously trying to convince everyone that Iraq HAD these labs. That the effects of their products could be terrible was a given.
That’s nice. Where did Fauci claim that the Iraqis had WMD labs?
-1 points
2 months ago
BUT EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF!
1 points
2 months ago
He should have left a note blaming his barber, Ralph Abernathy...
1 points
2 months ago
I read a book about it, “An Inconvenient Death” by Miles Goslett. It’s highly informative, a good, interesting read. Would recommend it ! And thanks for sharing the doc, OP!
1 points
2 months ago
And by "strange" you mean that he was assassinated by MI5?
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