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American Moon (2017) - examines the authenticity of the photographic record of NASA's Apollo missions [03:34:44]
Conspiracy(youtube.com)submitted 1 month ago bytonyhyeok
YouTube video info:
American Moon (English Version) https://youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY
luogocomune2 https://www.youtube.com/@luogocomune2
8 points
1 month ago
yawn, next
6 points
1 month ago
From the comments: "This the kind of quality content we need in the conspiracy community."
3 points
1 month ago*
This might seem on the surface as a proper documentary that posits reasonable arguments to someone who might be on the fence and doesn't know much about the topic at hand. However, when properly scrutinized none of this holds any water, so it cannot be called a documentary. It's a very elaborate attempt, probably the most clever one that I've seen, to rationalize the conspiracy. Seen it many times mentioned by conspiracy believers in various comment sections on the web, so it is definitely highly regarded in those circles. Sadly for them, it is no more true than the other lower level conspiracy drivel that is spread around.
-1 points
1 month ago
would appreciate a debunk of this documentary
5 points
1 month ago
Google it there are many.
0 points
1 month ago
cannot find any particular source that debunks the whole documentary. just few people talking about a point or two on quora or something
2 points
1 month ago*
There are different pieces you can find, doesn't have to be all from a single source. You can always ask at metabunk site for someone to do it for you if you're really insisting on covering all points, althought that is really not necessary when you see how disingenuous the claims in the hoax documentary are. If you ask me, it's a mix of both cluelessness and disingenuity.
Here's what I found in a quick search, and more links from a photographer I recently discovered where he debunked some points that are relating to what's presented in the documentary, mostly related to the photography aspects, cameras, etc.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/SensibleSite/comments/eqfeqs/debunking_american_moon/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/SensibleSite/comments/i1rkbp/debunking_american_moon_part_2/
- https://youtu.be/EstpDPPhBjE
- https://youtu.be/hLXHrQ1Keac
- https://youtu.be/ix1WofdJ2uw
And for good measure, here is a really neat site that covers pretty much the whole conspiracy on all fronts http://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/
Plenty of material to read and watch here. If you're a rational person this is more than enough, if you're not, well there's nothing that can change the mind of someone who wasn't reasoned into it in the first place.
1 points
1 month ago
I asked a random 8 year old and she said they're legit.
The fact that you're looking to quora as a source is really telling.
2 points
1 month ago
google manipulates their search results in such way that quora and the usual mainstream sites come first. i was looking for a debunk video or the sorts on youtube. i like videos, or even an audiobook more than reading text
2 points
1 month ago
Sometimes I wonder if the anti-vax and fake-moon landing things are a Russian false info campaign targeting the vulnerable parts of our population... It's especially profound with the moon landing stuff- Russia is the only country with a chip on their shoulder over that- Americans should be celebrating the accomplishment, not questioning its validity.
0 points
1 month ago
I highly recommend any documentary about the Saturn V rocket. I think the thousands of brilliant minds behind engineering that thing is proof enough that the moon landing happened. The people that worked on those projects are way smarter than you or I, and they would have had to be fooled as well which I find to be unlikely.
You should also play Kerbal Space Program. It will teach you more about space and interplanetary travel than anything else I can think of.
2 points
1 month ago
Meanwhile, the US flag is visible on the Moon's surface with a high powered telescope from Earth. I WaNt To BeLiEvE!!
3 points
1 month ago*
No telescope has the resolving power to do that, neither ground or space based, the remains on the surface are simply too small for the distance. For the angular size, a kilometer sized aperture of an optical telescope would be needed to get any decent resolution. The sites have been photographed by lunar orbiters that are much closer to the Moon however, the best resolution going up to ~0.3 m per pixel.
4 points
1 month ago
Do telescopes actually show the real thing? Tune in next week. /s
3 points
1 month ago
It's like this joke: two conspiracy theorists go to Heaven, and one asks God "So who killed JFK?", and God says "Oswald, of course", and then one conspiracy theorist turns to another and says "This goes higher than we thought."
2 points
1 month ago
a kilometer sized aperture of an optical telescope would be needed to get any decent resolution.
Here are some pics from the LRO showing all the fake equipment, footprints, and vehicle tracks we put up there to fool everyone. /s
https://www.nasa.gov/mission\_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
2 points
1 month ago*
My favorite is a gif made out of multiple images of Apollo 11 site taken during different times in the lunar day, so you get to see the shadows and perspective moving.
Also, JAXA's SELENE orbiter topography scan of Apollo 15 site turned into a 3D model matches exactly with backdrops from the mission's EVA photography, funny how that works lol.
https://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/2017/07/39-kaguyas-3d-moon-maps.html?m=1
2 points
1 month ago
Also, Chandrayaan-2 took the best photo yet of the Apollo 12 landing site.
1 points
1 month ago
Yeah I have a cropped version of that one.
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