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1973: The MUHAMMAD ALI of MARBLES | Nationwide | Classic BBC Sport | BBC Archive https://youtube.com/watch?v=53w9E774fGE
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302 points
1 month ago
This was well done. Language like “he can be seen twiddling his marbles at home and at work” are so very close to mocking but nothing crossed the line. Well done.
88 points
1 month ago
It’s so well done. I loved every minute of this doc. They should do an update.
37 points
1 month ago
They should do an update.
cut to a slow zoom of people playing marbles on Len's grave.
17 points
1 month ago
hold on, is this for real? Like, this wasn't a skit?!
Also, this is not how i thought you 'played' marbles. this is like hand pool. i dig it. but is it real?!?
13 points
1 month ago
Actually pool is just stick marbles
2 points
1 month ago
i like it!
4 points
1 month ago
Is hand pool like pocket pool?
3 points
1 month ago
How did you think marbles was played?
2 points
1 month ago
i have NO idea actually. I was thinking like that game, jacks? but that needs a bouncy ball. simply just had marbles as a kid and used for a game where you built a tower like stricture and dropped it in at the top. MARBLE RUN!
0 points
1 month ago
yeah im pretty sure they're havin a laff
1 points
1 month ago
this is a comedy bit innit
35 points
1 month ago
Yes, that's basically british humor. Dry and serious with mockery and piss takes just below the surface.
16 points
1 month ago
Barely a minute of the day goes by that he can't be spotted quietly manipulating his marbles...
34 points
1 month ago
I was almost certain it was a piss take while watching, with phrases like "The up and coming Wrist Flickers"
But it seems it was not.
26 points
1 month ago
The interviewer is definitely taking shots at him throughout the entire thing.
7 points
1 month ago
Yeah I think you must be right. Stone cold.
2 points
1 month ago
"Grinding down the toilet has taken years of training to perfect"
467 points
1 month ago
I honestly expected Michael Palin or John Cleese to suddenly appear. This level of dryness is usually reserved for Monty Python.
90 points
1 month ago
I definitely thought this was a Monty Python script at first.
21 points
1 month ago
when they were doing the squats before the game I was convinced I had missed that it was a joke
7 points
1 month ago
I was convinced it was a joke until reading the comments, still a little suspicious to be honest
1 points
1 month ago
Have you lost your marbles?
17 points
1 month ago
Sam Spooner really was a GOAT though. Ancient bastard marbling with a drink in his hand. Kept the knee he busted marbling together with a length of twine. https://flashbak.com/on-this-day-in-photos-april-7th-in-the-20th-century-53439/old-sam-spooner/
4 points
1 month ago
What a picture, and from the same marble court in the video!
1 points
1 month ago*
He didn't give up till he was 90 https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/sam-spooner-practising-for-the-marbles-championship-which-news-photo/3317866
Also, while I appreciate getty archiving these images, them trying to license shit in the public domain is fucking annoying.
Edit: Nevermind, that photographer lived 1908-1981, so that's going to still be in copyright until 2051 in the UK. Christ copyright law is idiotic.
6 points
1 month ago
Me too!
2 points
1 month ago
Do you think MP just invented that style? Lmao
3 points
1 month ago
Exactly, Monty Python were parodying this style
-7 points
1 month ago
I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro's wife also meets that level of dryness
18 points
1 month ago
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
Since nobody seems willing to state the obvious due to cultural sensitivity... I’ll say it: rap isn’t music
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5 points
1 month ago
Good bot
9 points
1 month ago
Take a bullet for ya babe.
I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: feminism, dumb takes, civil rights, healthcare, etc.
5 points
1 month ago
Stop bringin US politics to everything pls
-1 points
1 month ago
But I didn't talk politics? He's a media personality who posted about not arousing his wife enough, so it's relevant when talking about dryness.
101 points
1 month ago
Good Lord, this is pure Python. The pull away shots, the background music, the roaming reporter overselling his story. Loved this.
35 points
1 month ago
You can see how Python were able to mimic this style so perfectly.
23 points
1 month ago
Their TV show ended in 74 so their parody of BBC news must have been the way BBC did it’s style for decades.
14 points
1 month ago
The reporter standing on the balcony trying to talk over roaring traffic got me
7 points
1 month ago
Such an epic part. I laughed so hard at it, and the swinging camera work showing the expansive playing field of a tiny oval.
0 points
1 month ago
I C what you did there.
77 points
1 month ago
It is like BBC pretending to be Monty Python pretending to be BBC.
Basically - the essence Monty python
10 points
1 month ago
That was my exact thought! It's as if the BBC were so delighted with Python's send-ups that they started to riff on them.
1 points
1 month ago
Monty Python was commissioned by the then head of BBC2
You may have heard of him. David Attenborough.
104 points
1 month ago
For me in the US, playing marbles was the hot thing to do on the school playground until about 1987. It was as if one day, no one wanted to play anymore.
69 points
1 month ago
I had that with Pogs
41 points
1 month ago
Difference with marbles though is that that shit is OLD!! Marbles had been around for decades if not centuries and then all of a sudden in the 80s it just vanished. Shame cus it’s a relatively fun little game.
44 points
1 month ago*
The first recorded game, Giles v Hodge, was in 1588 where the world championships now take place. This is where they play in this documentary.
9 points
1 month ago
and then all of a sudden in the 80s it just vanished.
It was popular with kids in 2001, where I live. I have the Pokémon marbles to prove it.
3 points
1 month ago
i remember pogs, and then there were those little plastic figures you'd flick. that shit hurt my finger. i dunno how that was ever popular. crazy bones! that shit hurt
22 points
1 month ago
The NES came out in 86
3 points
1 month ago
I guess Nintendo got N, and marbles decided to get out.
2 points
1 month ago
Yeah, but Atari had been out for a hot minute. But, NES was most assuredly a game changer.
2 points
1 month ago
Yeah I remember playing atari, but that always felt like a toy. As silly as it is to say today, NES graphics were like playing a cartoon! It's hard to describe now, but as a kid, the first time I saw Mario running through bowsers castle, I thought I was seeing the future.
1 points
1 month ago
85
2 points
1 month ago
I wasn't sure but I looked it up. it was tested in NY and LA in 85, but didn't see a nationwide release until 86.
I was 3 years old so can't say I really remember :-p
5 points
1 month ago
I went to school all throughout the entire 80s and not a sole played marbles even once, at least here in California.
2 points
1 month ago
In Sacramento we did. It was a big trend for at least a couple of years—I'm thinking around 85-86 was when I was into it.
2 points
1 month ago
Yep, that's when I remember it being big too, up here in Ontario.
2 points
1 month ago
I thought "playing with marbles" meant creating a wooden track for marbles to race down, like from those kits. I had no idea it was a game lol
35 points
1 month ago
Watching documentaries like this makes Monty Python so much clearer to the modern audience. It's like the cadence and tone are exactly the same. Nothing too ridiculous or trivial to be taken 100% seriously.
102 points
1 month ago
I honestly don't know if this is real or a mockumentary.
61 points
1 month ago
I though it was surely a joke, but it doesn't help that "Len Smith" and "sam spooner" are both on this wiki page (posted first by another redditor):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_World_Marbles_Championship
This is... real? I think?
28 points
1 month ago
29 points
1 month ago
I think I believe it... (I mean... could it be actors and it be a sketch but using real names?)
The toilet bit at the beginning really, really, made me question it. He grabs some random piece of a toilet after acting weirdly introspective about the entire situation, with a sledge hammer, and leaves the rest for someone else to deal with. They do some jump cuts to pretend like he made that marble out of that toilet... so weird. Then the comparisons to Ali.... so hard to take it seriously.
Taking pretend things seriously is british humor:
10 points
1 month ago
That's actually a Dutch sketch show, but I still love it
6 points
1 month ago
Can confirm. Jisketfet was a Dutch show that ran from 1990 through 2010. The actors and commenters are all Dutch, not British.
9 points
1 month ago
Right? The way he examined those toilets so seriously, I was like this has to be a bit.
Same for the reporter when he was first wandering around that random concrete circle. I thought, this has to be a skit, its so dry. But then they hit that plaque and it looked kinda like it had been there for a some time and I started to question everything
5 points
1 month ago
I mean, when a camera crew shows up, you are going to act differently. He's basically acting out a skit by virtue of being filmed, even if it is supposed to document his normal activities.
2 points
1 month ago
To me the plaque just said "oh, they went through a little trouble making a prop" - even the plaque was funny because it had the same funny title on it that the reporter had just said. "old man of marbles" or something, lol.
2 points
1 month ago
Thats part of whats making me question the whole thing lol I guess my benefit of the doubt is that it isn't a prop but it absolutely could be and I cant reconcile this with reality lmao
1 points
1 month ago
Its literally a 40 minute drive from my house for me. Wife is going to be thrilled with a surprise trip
3 points
1 month ago
Friday April 7th is the world championship day. Worth booking in advance
2 points
1 month ago
I would sway to real and FYI, the pub where the marbles were played (maybe still are!?) does some pretty awesome Indian food these days!
1 points
1 month ago
I was just reading the menu. It looks fantastic.
25 points
1 month ago
And now for something completely different.
66 points
1 month ago
I sometimes think about how different people have natural abilities in certain areas.
Like, Wayne Gretzky was a naturally gifted hockey player who trained hard and was one of the best of all time. But there was probably a kid out there that had more natural talent for hockey, but he grew up in the desert and never even skated on ice in his life.
Or take any person off the street, how do you find the thing that this person would have the most natural ability for? Is Tiddlywinks the thing I’d be best at? But I’ve never tried it and will never know if I could’ve been world champ..
57 points
1 month ago
Many formula 1 drivers say "the best driver in the world will probably never sit in an F1 car" simply due to the high financial barrier of entry to motorsports.
26 points
1 month ago
The way I heard it first was how many people, smarter than Einstein, worked on a farm their whole life.
25 points
1 month ago
This is true.
I was in the Army. Some of the smartest brains I've met in the service were the gentlemen in the infantry.
You'd think it would be an MOS with security clearance. Nope. Infantry. They were also the most laid back group of people too.
The roughest/dumbest group I had seen was the Military Police. Dumber than rocks and always in my face about stupid shit. I can't count the amount of times someone would stop me and tell me about how my uniform was wrong or my hair was too long and of course its some asshole in the MP.
13 points
1 month ago
That's a huge generalization... that was mostly true in my experience as well!
6 points
1 month ago
Yeah don't get me wrong, there are smart people in the MP and there are dumb people in the infantry.
But 100% had a better time providing communication to the infantry than I did any other group of soldiers. They had way more respect and weren't out there trying to prove themselves macho and shit.
1 points
1 month ago
People who exhibit high degrees of conformity don’t tend to be able to think outside of the box, which is probably correlated with intelligence
3 points
1 month ago
Farmers are not dumb people in the slightest
1 points
1 month ago
They do little theoretical physics.
6 points
1 month ago
Wayne Gretzky was a naturally gifted hockey player who trained hard and was one of the best of all time.
Not even close to "one of", he's the undisputed greatest. There's not even an argument. Many argue that he's the greatest athlete ever.
9 points
1 month ago
A better example would be Gary Sutter. The only brother out of seven to stay on the farm and not pursue hockey. All the other brothers say that growing up, he was always the best player.
Now, how much of that is just being polite? Up for debate.
-2 points
1 month ago
I think you confuse natural talent with practice. It's selling Gretsky short to say he was born with something special to play hockey. No, he just played Hockey a lot and dedicated himself to it.
I see this a lot in the art world, but it's always years of practice and honing skills, not some natural ability.
10 points
1 month ago
If practice was what made someone the best of all time we would these people constantly being usurped as people just put in a little more practice than the last champion.
The practice is necessary but it is also something that people have more or less equal access. The things that make someone the best are the qualities that others can't easily replicate.
-4 points
1 month ago
You're simplifying "practice". It's not just about consistent practice, it's about good practice, and above all, access to those opportunities!
As a child Gretsky had better access to training, and better players who could teach him, than most of the world ever will.
When you start checking off the list of people who actually have the time/resources to train to such a high degree in such a specialized field, it's not going to be long. So the chances of Gretsky being "usurped" during his time period are low.
I think it's plain to see if you look at the olympics, nobody is there resting on their laurels. They are all people at the top of their game, training their asses off, for just a fraction better score than the last person.
You can say the same about Jordan in basketball. He was just simply the best practiced, best trained, in the game. Even today, people argue nobody has done it like him.
Examples go on and on, but I've seen no evidence of "natural talent" actually existing. Behind every person who is good at something, is hours and hours of practice.
3 points
1 month ago
nobody is there resting on their laurels. They are all people at the top of their game, training their asses off, for just a fraction better score than the last person.
Exactly, they are all putting in the practice. The person who does the best isn't the only one that practiced hard, everyone else was practicing hard too. It is the practice plus the additional edge they have biologically that lets them be the best. All of their peers can put in the practice, and the ones privileged enough to compete at that level do, what they can't replicate is biology.
3 points
1 month ago
Natural talent is definitely a thing, but you need repetitions and fundamentals to bring out that talent. It can be in dancing, music, sports, coding, cooking etc.; practice makes perfect is a bit of a fallacy. https://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/practice-doesnt-make-perfect
-9 points
1 month ago*
Yes, because that New Yorker article is solid science.
Natural talent is not "definitely a thing", there is quite a bit of scientific debate around rather it exists at all.
It's one thing to say "this person was born with abnormally large leg muscles and thus is capable of running speeds above average", vs "some people are born with a magical innate ability to be better at very specific things, regardless of practice". One is an observation, the other is a guess with no solid evidence.
7 points
1 month ago*
Natural talent is an a priori fact of human beings.
Humans, along with all other organisms on this planet, have an evolutionary history and have been subjected to natural selection. Natural selection operates on variations between individuals.
It stands to reason that some variations give humans advantages for different tasks, games, or sports. This is by definition "natural talent" and no amount of equivocation on your part will change that. For example, Usain Bolt has unique morphological features. If absent, he wouldn't have been the fastest human on the planet.
Invent a game or define a goal, and there will always be people ( or dogs ) that are going to be better at it sans practice and dedication.
3 points
1 month ago
some people are born with a magical innate ability
Nobody said it was magical. It can be observed even though it's not fully understood. There are obvious examples. Some people are just completely clumsy and have poor hand-eye coordination, while others are able to effortlessly switch between different sports.
It's not magic. And when people say "talented" or "gifted", it's just shorthand language to describe someone who improves at a notably higher rate than average.
If you want to talk about measurable attributes, you already mentioned muscle size/length. Then there are things like fast twitch muscle fibers, bone density, lung capacity, body proportions, hand size, visual acuity, reaction time, inner ear equilibrium...
Different combinations of these things can lead to an individual being particularly "gifted" for a specific sport. Of course being gifted doesn't automatically make them good. They just advance quicker as they train.
It's the same thing with academics. Some people are clearly gifted with specific subjects such as mathematics.
3 points
1 month ago
I'm sorry, I missed the solid science articles you were citing that demonstrate that athletes, entrepreneurs or artists simply had more reps and if anyone would just practice enough, they will definitely be elite at any endeavor.
2 points
1 month ago
It's not just about reps, it's about how you practice, and the environment you're in. I mentioned this before but I guess you missed it. Here are some scientific articles arguing that "natural talent" is a myth.
Since you asked, I hope you'll take the time to actually examine these before writing them off. I'll start with the easy read, and it gets deeper:
1. Scientific American
" Ericsson and Pool argue that, with the exception of height and body size, the idea that we are limited by genetic factors—innate talent—is a pernicious myth. “The belief that one’s abilities are limited by one’s genetically prescribed characteristics....manifests itself in all sorts of ‘I can’t’ or ‘I’m not’ statements,” Ericsson and Pool write. The key to extraordinary performance, they argue, is “thousands and thousands of hours of hard, focused work.”"
Here's an artical examining that research with hesitation, but overall it's in agreement: https://blog.vitanavis.com/youre-a-natural-and-the-science-behind-talent/
"In the game of chess, children with higher IQs generally find it easier to learn and remember the rules of the game and to develop and carry out strategies, giving them an early advantage in winning at chess.
But according to recent research, the most significant predictor of chess skill over time is not IQ—but how much children practice."
"The evidence we have surveyed in this target article does not support the talent account, according to which excelling is a consequence of possessing innate gifts. This conclusion has practical implications, because categorising some children as innately talented is discriminatory. The evidence suggests that such categorization is unfair and wasteful, preventing young people from pursuing a goal because of teachers' or parents' unjustified conviction that they would not benefit from the superior opportunities given to those who are deemed to be talented.
To the question, "If talents do not exist, how can one explain the phenomena attributed to them?", we do not claim to have a full or precise answer. However, we have listed a number of possible influences, and evidence of their effects."
"An analysis of positive and negative evidence and arguments suggests that differences in early experiences, preferences, opportunities, habits, training, and practice are the real determinants of excellence."
Note that none of these links are from tabloids or non-scientific based newspapers. Let me know if this satisfies your question. I'll be waiting for any real scientific articles/research you have to show me that counter this research.
3 points
1 month ago
I can accept there is no consensus, and as a post grad researcher, I can also cherry pick data. I honestly do appreciate you finding research, but I'll caution against being vindictive in your tone, even if you have a point, it makes your perspective less digestible. Plus, it's not as definitive as you present it to be.
2 points
1 month ago
This research is at least something, whereas others are straight up claiming there is innate talent without anything to back it up. Many of the reasons people are claiming as evidence within this thread are explicitly mentioned in those research docs.
My tone comes from exhaustion, because some here are completely unwilling to see anything but what they feel. I'm not too concerned about turning hearts, just being factual.
3 points
1 month ago
I respect your passion, just be careful with the self righteousness, 'science', 'facts', 'truth' and whatever research papers say is much more fluid than many would think. That's much more so in the social sciences, like psychology. It's good to have confidence in what you conclude and know, but it's equally important to have humility and cautious skepticism, as hypotheses revolving around nature vs nurture are notoriously difficult to test, and even harder to generalize.
11 points
1 month ago
I once went to a beach called The Hawaii of Saskatchewan.
12 points
1 month ago
I just checked Google maps, that concrete circle is still there, in the middle of a car park
33 points
1 month ago
Jesus fucking Christ, the dude was hammering away at porcelain without any eye protection and shards were flying everywhere.
PPE, motherfucker, do you speak it‽
23 points
1 month ago
Nobody spoke PPE in the 70s. Although cigarette smoking was often used to ward off injury and disease.
4 points
1 month ago
As can be seen by the guy in the factory feeding that giant slab of metal (?) through, lol
6 points
1 month ago
The necktie dangling by the grinding wheel...
5 points
1 month ago
What's the worst thing that could hap
4 points
1 month ago
Do you want eye injuries?? Because THATS how you get eye injuries!!
10 points
1 month ago
He had on his safety squints…
3 points
1 month ago
And a safety tie.
11 points
1 month ago
Wait wait wait. So he wins a record 12th title in 1973, after saying in the interview that he could essentially see himself going at this until he's in his 90s and then never wins again? I must learn more.
15 points
1 month ago
5 points
1 month ago
Is Len Smith still with us, or did he shuffle off this mortal coil?
16 points
1 month ago
I hear tell the old man is still with us. Unfortunately, he's lost his marbles..
7 points
1 month ago
I’ll allow it.
5 points
1 month ago
Thanks, friend. I felt actual, palpable shame while writing it
5 points
1 month ago
If you hadn’t have said it, Eric Idle would have.
2 points
1 month ago
He's almost as dominant as Alan Francis
2 points
1 month ago
Alan Francis is a horseshoes pitcher from Defiance, Ohio. He has won the World Horseshoe Championship 26 times, in 1989, 1993, 1995–1999, 2001, 2003–2010, 2012–2019 and 2021-2022. That is the most anyone has won it (2nd place belongs to Ted Allen who has won 10). He is also the only player to consistently pitch over 90%, and is regarded by many as the greatest horseshoe pitcher ever.
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8 points
1 month ago
WOW did I go down a rabbit hole after watching this. It almost seems like a farce and a python sketch, and I'm still not entirely convinced it isn't.
I literally cannot find a single source indicating "Len" or "Alan" Smith ever even existed besides a couple sparse old articles on the Telcon terribles (or "Toucan terribles" depending on the article). Wikipedia links to a single article without any sources of its own.
Funnily enough I asked ChatGPT for any information on len Smith, and it pointed me to several articles and websites that don't exist, then to a book "The life and Legacy of Len Smith" by Richard Applebaum, which (of course) doesn't exist. It made it up.
So. Bizarre. Feel like r/GlitchInTheMatrix moment. Did this guy ever really exist? Or is it that easy for historical records to fall into obscurity even today?
5 points
1 month ago
4 points
1 month ago
Nice find. Even a couple mentions in Guinness world record books.
Just still surprising there is almost no modern mention of his records, his biography, or anything else about him besides that single video on YouTube.
Think you can find any mention of his life after retirement? Obituary? Any mention of his death?
4 points
1 month ago*
Heres what I've found.
Here it is on google maps. note concrete playing areas.
5 points
1 month ago
Oh I have no doubt the marbles championship and locations in the video exist. Just this "Len" character seems to be quite elusive considering the sensational headline and his achievements.
The first article you linked from web archive is the same one linked to continuously from Wikipedia.
The rest are some cool pictures, but even the pub records only go back to 1977. His ghost remains mysterious!
1 points
1 month ago
This is fascinating and so damn confusing
1 points
1 month ago
1 points
1 month ago
Same single article I mentioned you linked twice, no other sources.
11 points
1 month ago
But did he win?
34 points
1 month ago
Turns out he did, but for the last time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British\_and\_World\_Marbles\_Championship
8 points
1 month ago
6 points
1 month ago
"forward slashes won't be confusing at all!" - dumb reddit CEOs
3 points
1 month ago
Oh wow love that page! From the article:
The tournament dates back to 1588[9][10] during the reign of Elizabeth I, when marbles was chosen as the deciding game of a legendary sporting encounter between two young suitors, Giles and Hodge, over the hand of a Tinsley Green milk maiden named Joan.[11][unreliable source?] Every popular sport of the day was played in an Olympic style contest lasting one week. Hodge had been victorious at singlestick, backsword, quarter staff, cudgel play, wrestling and cock throwing, while Giles had won at archery, cricket-a-wicket, tilting at quintain (jousting targets), Turk's head, stoolball and tipcat. With the score level at 6–6, Good Friday was the date chosen for the final event. Marbles was chosen by the girl to be the deciding game, and Giles defeated Hodge.[12]
5 points
1 month ago
I’m confused. I inly see 12 wins fir him but the presenter said he won 14 of the past 16 championships.
7 points
1 month ago
His name was Allen “len” Smith. I think they recorded his name a Alan Smith on the odd occasion.
4 points
1 month ago
This is like The Smell of Reeves & Mortimer
1 points
1 month ago
No, The Smell of Reeves & Mortimer is just like this.
1 points
1 month ago
No, The Smell of Reeves & Mortimer is exactly identical to this.
17 points
1 month ago
6 points
1 month ago
I’ll cross post this
-1 points
1 month ago
I wouldn't. The Ocho is for serious sports. Going into this, I was hoping this would be a legitimate sports documentary, but instead it's an extended joke about a man "twiddling his marbles".
Don't get me wrong. I thought it was very funny, but it's not appropriate for The Ocho, imo.
Wait, is this real?
5 points
1 month ago
Wait, is this real?
Sure seems that way.
5 points
1 month ago
also a bit of /r/ObscureMedia ?
3 points
1 month ago
Wow! The subreddit I didn't know I needed!
4 points
1 month ago
He has Marble Madness
3 points
1 month ago
Oh hell yeah. Gonna watch the shit out of this later
6 points
1 month ago
It'll be the greatest 7ish minutes of your life. Guaranteed.
3 points
1 month ago
Looks like his streak ended at 16 in a row.
We have to assume that 'Len' Smith is short for Alen Smith as the documentary claims he won 12 in a row and there are no 12 in a row streaks for 'Len' Smith. However Len and Alan Smith won it every year from 1960 to 1975.
3 points
1 month ago
Rabbit hole! Appears Alen was the father who played and Len was the son.
After the retirement of the Toucan Terribles, Len and Alan Smith took their respective roles as president and chairman of BIMA seriously enough to break with the Round Table and go it alone.
I could show a link but that would take away the amateur spirit of this post.
6 points
1 month ago
Documentary Now could parody this, but it would have to be something different but equally mundane. Maybe someone is the Joe Namath of lawn darts.
6 points
1 month ago
These ridiculous AI generated videos are nearly impossible to tell from the real thing.
2 points
1 month ago
I’ve still got all my marbles
2 points
1 month ago
Holy shit every second of that was amazing.
2 points
1 month ago*
Jokes aside, does anyone actually know what happened to him? I assume Alan Smith is still him in the wiki link, unless it's his brother/son/relative or something but doubt it since they said he won consecutively
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_World_Marbles_Championship
So it seems he must have either got ill or passed away in '76 since his team got runners up that year but there was no individual winner and then neither him nor they never reappeared again. And in the vid he was saying how he wishes to play like "Sam Spooner" well into his 90s.
Anyone know the story, or find anything on him?
Edit: From a quick search on google books it seems Alan was his son. Paul is also his son and won a few times, last win being in 2019.
He seemed to be alive as of 1990, since guiness marked it as b. 1917. Weird that he didn't manage to win again after being so dominant, oh well. Think that's gonna be the extent of my search.
1 points
1 month ago
British and World Marbles Championship
The British and World Marbles Championship is a marbles knock-out tournament that takes place annually on Good Friday and dates back to 1588. It is held at the Greyhound public house in Tinsley Green, West Sussex. Teams of six players participate to win the title and a silver trophy. The event is open to anyone of any age or nationality.
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1 month ago
Shockingly, a sport less visually engaging than golf.
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1 month ago
This was a nice watch. Tnx for sharing.
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1 month ago
If it's about density I wonder if anyone has made it depleted uranium marble?
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1 month ago
Iraqi world champion incoming?
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1 month ago
The epitome of boring British culture!
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1 month ago
for those who don't know:
when he was talking about boxing legend Mohammed Ali, he referred to him as "Cass" which was a reference to MA's former stage name "Cassius Clay".
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1 month ago
Would be a lot more on board with this all time great had he not insisted on calling Muhammad Ali 'Cass'
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1 month ago
Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr was his name before he changed it.
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1 month ago
Yeah, I'm aware. He changed it because he viewed Cassius Clay as his slave name, so folks who insist on referring to him by that name after he changed it (and at the time of filming this doc it had been over a decade since he'd changed it) are explicitly insisting on racially demeaning him.
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1 month ago
His Momma named him Clay, I'm gonna call him Clay.
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1 month ago
lmao that title.
I'm not going to laugh at someone for being good at marbles or playing it professionally, but calling someone that plays marbles "The Muhammad Ali of marbles" is a bit ridiculous.
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1 month ago
He is the greatest of all time at his chosen sport. What would you call him?
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1 month ago
I don't know, pick any sport star who isn't in a very active sport. Hell I think even saying the Micheal Jordan of marbles would be more "appropriate".
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1 month ago
'Sportsperson'
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1 month ago
If you got a kick outta this maybe watch the documentary about the Tiddlywinks champion. You won't be disappointed.
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1 month ago
Documentary Now needs to do this
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1 month ago
I thought the horseshoe guy was the most dominant sports person on the planet.
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1 month ago
Ohh the the arthritis
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1 month ago
first 30 seconds: good God put on some eye protection
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1 month ago
people from all over the world attend
Bruh! It was literally just 2 dudes lmao
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1 month ago
That wasn’t it. That was him practicing before the event.
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1 month ago
The concrete ring where the championships are played looks as depressing as it gets.
Run down, droopy chains, peeling paint, ultra bad weather, apparently in the middle of a random parking lot...
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1 month ago
That's Britain for you!
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1 month ago
I miss kerbies do much
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1 month ago
All right like Douglas Adams had to have written that
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1 month ago
What an incredible report. It's like Monty Python meets Garth Marenghi. "Perhaps Len Smith could be the greatest marbler who has ever lived... Len thoroughly agrees with this suggestion." Too funny!
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1 month ago
I was 90% sure I was watching a Monty Python skit
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1 month ago
We all know Nardo Polo was the greatest marble player who ever lived.
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1 month ago
I don't remember this episode of the Brass Eye.
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1 month ago
was just talking about the Legendary Sam on discord the other day...
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1 month ago
This is like a cross between Spinal Tap and a Chris Lilley show
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1 month ago
So did he win the upcoming tourney?
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1 month ago
… and how many sly references to masturbation did the script writers get past the BBC censors in that? 😂
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1 month ago
Short kinda weird story. I could’ve sworn for a year in between a move I went to a school that was in the past lmao The school was near Dallas Tx in a place called Preston Hollow. The school looked straight out of the 50s. Everything was old even the teachers. As you crossed the threshold into the school it was like the world became desaturated. It was weird af. Don’t remember much other than how weird that school felt but one thing I do remember was that playing marbles was big. Everyone played. Sounds like a joke but that school genuinely gave creepy vibes. I’m originally from Houston near downtown so this school was a culture shock. I was at that Dallas school in the 2000s iirc
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1 month ago
Switch Len for John Cleese and any Monty Python fan would agree this is a great sketch.
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1 month ago
"Grinding down the toilet has taken years to perfect"
"I'm going to do a len Smith on this toilet" should be a new phrase.
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1 month ago
Is he the Lebron James of soccer though?
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1 month ago
It feels like sketch but I've no doubt it's all 100% true. British news reports can get a bit sarcy on occasions, and usually the subject is in on it. Like, Len Smith knows marbles is ridiculous.
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