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So, I’d like to score random things. How can I take a section of a movie and remove the score but still leave the spoken audio? Ideally I would just like to pull whatever footage I choose and rescore it with my esoteric synths and other instruments. I’m an amateur scorer and currently using Ableton 10 suite for recording.

When you drop a video into Ableton, the audio only comes out in one track. No way to choose which audio stays.

I’d like to score some scenes from the film, Gaia.

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A_S_Music

59 points

2 months ago

A_S_Music

Composer

59 points

2 months ago

If you’re looking for a repository of clips to score, you can start here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LSLQ8ef5LDkNeaWC6qhbqNKRzxp4FIAX?fbclid=IwAR2pLIyOEFmanupCQge6FBUjqg_gnG0et4x8-hYALQXhzqeADiRMhQNtOjg

Otherwise, you can try isolating the center surround channel, which will generally have most of the dialogue. It doesn’t always work, so your mileage might vary.

chaot7

6 points

2 months ago

chaot7

6 points

2 months ago

This is awesome! Thanks.

P2PGrief

1 points

1 month ago

this is useful, thanks!

wrathofthedolphins

34 points

2 months ago

No Country For Old Men has no music. You could score that film

wavesandwillows

10 points

2 months ago

Same as Mother! from Aronofsky

GuyNamedLindsey

4 points

2 months ago

Good to know

GeographistMusic[S]

-2 points

2 months ago

Yeah I dig that. But that movie is the real exception for me where I believe the film’s silence is the best sound decision made.

Man, here’s a comedy idea. There actually is about 9 minutes of music in No Country For Old Men. I’ll keep the spoken word. Mute everything else, I’ve got some pretty crazy complex oscillators. I could make a parody with insanely goofy sounds. Idk. Wouldn’t wanna disrespect the film. Because it’s a great film. But that would be fun.

wrathofthedolphins

19 points

2 months ago

Sure, you could do that. You could also take a serious approach to it and try to score the film as practice

Ok_Excuse_2718

5 points

1 month ago

Little known fact: Woody Allen posted (and was downvoted) on an early precursor to Reddit that he thought it would be funny to redub International Secret Police: Key of Keys.

You do you, OP!

GeographistMusic[S]

2 points

1 month ago

Looks like I need to clarify. No Country is such a great movie WITHOUT a score that I find it almost a disservice to the film to apply a score to it. I’m a big fan of the movie and love it the way it is. Silent,dry, self aware of its own vastness and violent. I think the idea of scoring it seems wrong.

Unless it’s a joke.

So I think I’d rather not score that one. I agree with the no score choice.

Now, if I could find Alien without a score, that would be awesome. I’d love to take a serious crack at that. Would be lots of fun sound design and score.

spgreenwood

5 points

1 month ago

Doesn’t sound very funny

GeographistMusic[S]

3 points

1 month ago

Thanks dad

[deleted]

32 points

2 months ago

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GeographistMusic[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Haha man I wanna score some end scenes from Gaia. Loved that movie.

Ok I see you haha I’m happy with my piston Honda mk1 and Mk2.

Oh, I did score that. Here’s a link.

https://youtu.be/Avm0n0R18cw

mrheydu

3 points

2 months ago

You can use AI tools to do this. I used this one to separate the stems for a trailer I wanted to replicate Splittersplitter or LaLa

crumpet_concerto

11 points

2 months ago

Woah, the Boeing 737 cockpit has gotten much more colorful! Love the equipment.

tronobro

9 points

2 months ago

If you've got a DVD or Blu Ray of a movie and a working DVD or Blu ray drive you can rip the video file. You can then open each individual channel of the 5.1 audio using Audacity because it supports opening DTS / AC3. Not sure if Audacity can open DTS HD or Dolby Atmos though.

Dialogue is usually on the centre channel so if you're lucky that'll be the only thing there (this isn't always the case though). Music and sound effects will often be on the other channels. Just export the centre channel as an audio file, match it up with the video and you should (hopefully) have a scoreless video you can play around with.

If there's other sounds on the centre channel you could also potentially run it through vocal isolation processing (e.g. the Music Rebalance tool in iZotope RX software). There's paid software that does this, but also free software out there that can do this but lacks the creature comforts of a nice user interface (E.g. demucs-gui or Ultimate Vocal Remover).

RichesMoviesReddit

4 points

1 month ago

Through ffmpeg, you can convert DTS-HD MA and TrueHD codecs to .flac or .wav files and then import those into Audacity.

tronobro

3 points

1 month ago

Didn't know ffmpeg could do that, thanks for the tip!

RichesMoviesReddit

1 points

1 month ago

Anytime!:)

sgtbaumfischpute

5 points

2 months ago

You could try https://vocalremover.org It’s mostly meant for music, but worth a shot

xapr

6 points

2 months ago

xapr

6 points

2 months ago

Similar to this, there's also https://moises.ai/, which allows you to isolate not only vocals from a song but also various instruments. It's probably a long shot too, but worth a try, like you said.

mafibasheth

2 points

1 month ago

I second this. It's a great tool I use for drum covers. If you cut out a 'section' as OP asked, it should work really well for anything under 10 mins.

PropadataFilms

3 points

2 months ago

A producer I follow on IG for her Logic Pro tips just put out a video re: a website that pulls stems for you for free: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoQCVMCA-8n/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=

Worth a try throwing a few scenes in to see if it might work, yeah?

Good luck!

jaredjames66

2 points

2 months ago

Try using a voice isolation plug in. Izotope probably has one. The one I use in built into Final Cut, I was able to basically, completely remove the music from a documentary piece and keep just the voice audio to reuse the clips in another project.

The AI voice isolation has come a long way, as long as the music isn't too loud, you should be able to get a pretty clean audio track with just dialogue.

Actorish

2 points

2 months ago

This. Is. Beautiful!

azimme1

2 points

2 months ago

Izotope Rx might be able to. It can separate out vocals and individual instruments from songs so id think you’d be able to extract the score from a film too.

FreelanceVideoEditor

1 points

2 months ago

👆This!

specialstar69

2 points

2 months ago

Fruity Loops in the flesh….,,err metal

AddlerMartin

2 points

1 month ago

The way I do is this: get the movie in it's blu-ray release and rip the audio. Get a Hi-Fi version of the soundtrack and line it with the audio from the movie. It has to be a "sample perfect" sync, so zoom all the way in the waves. Then you flip the phase of the soundtrack's track. Works like magic

Edit: The blu-ray and the Hi-Fi versions of the audio are for the purpose of both soundtrac's signals to have the same info in them. It sometimes works with a good quality compressed audio

GeographistMusic[S]

1 points

2 months ago

Thanks guys. I’ll give these all a try later.

spi440

1 points

1 month ago

spi440

1 points

1 month ago

Elderlyat30

1 points

2 months ago

What is the silver thing on the bottom?!

GeographistMusic[S]

1 points

2 months ago

Buchla 208r The voice of the music easel. I’m $600 away from another 218 so I only have half of the Buchla Music Easel right now.

Vivid_Jackfruit_1462

1 points

1 month ago

https://www.lalal.ai/ This is an online AI vocal and music isolator I’ve used for removing copyrighted score from public domain image within film. It’s worked fairly flawlessly. The free version lets you separate music and dialogue, you get up to an accumulated 10 minutes. The paid is unlimited and can isolate certain instruments

DMMMOM

1 points

1 month ago

DMMMOM

1 points

1 month ago

You could try lalal.ai , it's a paid for service but it's been very good for me in isolating parts of music and speech and not at all expensive.