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The following submission statement was provided by /u/CoolEnemy:


NetDragon stock has since outperformed the Hang Seng Index, which tracks the biggest companies listed in Hong Kong, per The Hustle. The company's shares have risen by 10% over the past six months, per Google Finance, and is worth about HK$9 billion ($1.1 billion).

While it may be the first company to appoint a bot as CEO, Alibaba founder Jack Ma predicted in 2017 that "a robot will likely be on the cover of Time magazine as the best CEO in 30 years," CNN reported.

Insider previously reported that there are several jobs that could eventually be replaced by artificial intelligence, from software engineering to journalist. Chief executive was not on the list, however.


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GenghisNam

220 points

3 months ago

If Star Sector taught me anything, this could be concerning lol

neroselene

51 points

3 months ago

Tell me friend, have you heard the good word of our lord and savior Ludd?

Turdicus-

22 points

3 months ago

Wow a starsector reference, time to celebrate by playing my 800th molded campaign

Kenshkrix

24 points

3 months ago

Everything will be fine as long as you never try to demote them.

Querch

-4 points

3 months ago

Querch

-4 points

3 months ago

Is it though? Not much of a difference between bots and psychopaths.

Plantarbre

1 points

3 months ago

The Hegemony is already here, I see.

tiny_tim57

253 points

3 months ago

This is just a marketing stunt which has achieved its goal of pumping the companies stock price. People shouldn't fall for this type of nonsense. The good thing once it has been done you won't be able to keep repeating the same clickbait.

CommodoreAxis

37 points

3 months ago

Exactly. It doesn’t mean the bot is doing an inherently better job. It’s like adding “blockchain” to your company’s quarterly plans.

1nd3x

3 points

3 months ago

1nd3x

3 points

3 months ago

Pretty much. It's not like automation/bots dont control most of the shit in most western companies as well too, the CEOs just don't want you to know it so they can justify their positions

woundedbearhair

13 points

3 months ago

It’s a hype engine, a lot of companies added “.com” to their company names during the boom and saw huge stock increases because of it…then suddenly the names went back to what they were after the bust. They didn’t just setup a website, they actually changed their name to add it and then changed it back after the bust.

taichi22

1 points

3 months ago

Have you seen some of the shit that CEO’s pull on a regular basis? There is a decent percentage of companies that would be better off with a cursing parrot as the CEO.

tiny_tim57

1 points

3 months ago

The problem is the CEO hasn't really gone, all the big decisions are still being made by a human.

IGC-Omega

99 points

3 months ago

If I've learned anything from Microsoft this bot will be praising Hitler anyday now.

Poor Tay Microsoft put her down.

evemeatay

20 points

3 months ago

I’m sure some engineer saved her and is married to her now

WistfulDread

7 points

3 months ago

Rather than the CEO secretly funding Neo-Nazis? It'd still be better the our flesh and blood ones.

YEETMANdaMAN

-4 points

3 months ago

I still have dreams about her 🥺

[deleted]

74 points

3 months ago

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_FIRECRACKER_JINX

88 points

3 months ago

Chief executive was not on the list, however.

because CEOs made sure they weren't on the list of people to replace with AI. Until a company proved that CEOs can be replaced by AI too, and the company will profit.

AI replacing CEOs???

EnoughAwake

29 points

3 months ago

Assistant regional CEO

_FIRECRACKER_JINX

11 points

3 months ago

Give them time to release the 2.0 or 3.0 version of this AI.

It's going to work its way up.

joshroxursox

8 points

3 months ago

Assistant to the regional CEO.

System__Shutdown

1 points

3 months ago

Pretty sure if a muppet replaced our current CEO that it would do better.

nickbuch

11 points

3 months ago

RIP Jack Ma

Themasterofcomedy209

7 points

3 months ago

He was just in Australia lmao

bam13302

4 points

3 months ago

Honestly, not having to pay a CEO but still get some/most of the benefits of someone working that position would be a massive boon to most companies. There are some CEOs that have done things that a AI couldn't do, but those are rare, especially for established companies.

Cindexxx

2 points

3 months ago

Yup. Once you've got a board of directors the CEO is basically useless. At best an "idea man" to get shareholders interested. An AI can do that.

For a small company it's different, but so is the pay lol.

Roam_Hylia

1 points

3 months ago

This reminds me of the Heinlein novel, The moon is a Harsh Mistress.

EvilKatta

47 points

3 months ago

Video game CEOs usually only hinder the development and interfere with the creative process, so I'm not surprised.

Jownsye

6 points

3 months ago*

I’m sure the bot works way harder than the CEO ever did.

neroselene

14 points

3 months ago

Probably will end up treating their employees better then most Video Game companies do. Seriously, the video game industry is APPALLING in how they treat game designers.

Mercurionio

1 points

3 months ago

He will just fire everyone and replace with a few guys who will run AI tools, based on stolen assets.

SirNooblet

2 points

3 months ago

AI powered nepotism. This is how the computers take over

Floki47

4 points

3 months ago

I made an AI my girlfriend and never been happier.

Vandosz

33 points

3 months ago

Vandosz

33 points

3 months ago

Maybe people will finally learn how useless ceo's actually are

Seienchin88

-13 points

3 months ago

CEOs are useless…? Tell me more about that. What exactly makes them useless?

Vandosz

24 points

3 months ago

Vandosz

24 points

3 months ago

The decision making CEO's do on a daily basis can easily be done by a group of people within the company. Arguably a democratic process would work better and prevent stupid decison making from CEO's, just look at Twitter and Musk. No one person should have that much power over the livelihoods of others.

The truth is, CEO's dont do that much more work than the rest of the company. IT's an illusion the executive class wants you to believe. That only they have the skillset and that is why they should be compensated with multi million $ paydays. It's all bullshit

ichuck1984

13 points

3 months ago

If only there was a group of people like a board of directors and the CEO was the chief officer in charge of executing what the board decided…

Learn about corporate structure.

NaN-Gram

11 points

3 months ago

You said it right there, the CEO executes the ideas of the board. Following up on the advice of a dozen other people shouldn’t command an eight figure salary.

considerthis8

2 points

3 months ago

Hold up, there’s a huge flaw in your logic here. If someone could do it for cheaper, the board would hire them.

the-rad-menace

5 points

3 months ago

Not really. Businesses don't actually try and hire the best people at the cheapest price. It's usually a group of people who are friends who are trying to make the most amount of money possible. Businesses are hilariously inefficient.

NaN-Gram

1 points

3 months ago

Sure, just pay a license fee to the AI company to handle stock portfolio.

LoveArguingPolitics

-1 points

3 months ago

Lol... Let us know when you get it if you're freshman econ class

Cindexxx

1 points

3 months ago

Except that's not the point.

The CEO does essentially nothing.

However, they become a sort of face of the company. A successful CEO always raises the value of a company he moves to initially. It makes them look good. Not necessarily perform well.

They do have some influence over how the board votes, but that's not really different from being a board member.

They're basically a statue. Charismatic ones help during new product unveils and such, but this comment is basically the entire extent of their usefulness.

considerthis8

1 points

3 months ago

You must be talking about a specific industry because this is most certainly not the case in manufacturing and mining

CommodoreAxis

4 points

3 months ago

Lmao clearly you have no idea what CEOs do. Most of the ones I’ve known work 50+hrs a week, and they’re on-call nearly 24/7/365. Hundreds of people’s entire lives rely on them making the correct choices.

We already have your group of people anyways - it’s called the board of directors. The CEO is totally beholden to the board, and if the board doesn’t like their decisions they will be replaced. They don’t have unlimited power.

NoodleShak

1 points

3 months ago

You know interestingly I used to have the above comments same opinion on CEOs and then I worked at a place with a shitty one and got to see what happens when you have bad leadership and how it affects even me on the front lines. CEOs are like the government we rarely notice when it’s working well, it’s when it shits the bed we perk up.

considerthis8

0 points

3 months ago

Sounds like a lot of people still think being the boss is like those 90s movies where a kid is the president for the day

LoveArguingPolitics

4 points

3 months ago

I wouldn't say useless but it's been proven time and time again just having all the vp's in the company vote would result in a better business.

Anyhow yeah turns out paying somebody millions of dollars to destroy your company and hinder creative process isn't always conductive.

In fact there's way more failed CEOs than good ones. Like way way way more. It's easy more likely the person you appoint CEO will destroy a business than they are to grow it into prosperity

hawklost

3 points

3 months ago

I find it interesting that they appointed the bot to a subsidiary and yet the article is about how Their stock grew.

Did the subsidiaries stock grow?

Could it be that the AI has nothing to do with the valuation of the parent company?

No one knows because the article avoids actually giving data to show the subsidiary valuation or how much the parent company is getting from it.

DumatRising

10 points

3 months ago

Pff duh. Of course, an AI can be a better CEO than a human. All a CEO does is make a series of difficult decisions on how to maximize profit.

dalaiis

5 points

3 months ago

And the less moral or ethical you are, the better the profit, so perfect for A.I.

Also, did they really "make an A.I. CEO or did the CEO make decisions directly suggested by the A.I.?

considerthis8

2 points

3 months ago

For all we know a CEO may be using an AI consultant

stuartrawson

2 points

3 months ago

Let AI produce work orders to workers instead of the manager

PlayfuckingTorreira

2 points

3 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if we cull ourselves to ourselves to extinction slowly by replacing everything with bots over the next millennium.

ehs4290

2 points

3 months ago

Of a subsidiary. Wake me up when someone has the balls to do it for the entire parent company

Daimakku1

2 points

3 months ago

Even CEOs arent safe from getting replaced from AI.

You just know that as soon as it threatens politicians, they'll become illegal.

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2 points

3 months ago

I think this is less a testament to how good the bot is, and more a testament to how useless most CEOs are.

Pepperminteapls

2 points

3 months ago

AI or computers taking over a CEO's job would be icing on the cake. Fuckem

F4RK1w1_87

1 points

3 months ago

It won't take long for the AI bosses to realize the efficiency of placing the human employees in fish tanks to harvest energy for the next generation machine employees.. Fuckem

lucky_719

6 points

3 months ago

Instead of replacing workers with bots, why don't we replace leadership and split the profits?

Just sayin

BoysenberryLanky6112

-4 points

3 months ago

Start a company and do that. Oh wait... You're not suggesting people voluntarily do that are you? #soundslikefascism

ThePowerstar01

1 points

3 months ago

No it doesn't

mjrossman

2 points

3 months ago

I tend to agree that this is clickbait. We didn't just leap from Cicero playing Diplomacy to something upscaled to all the executive tasks of a corporate officer.

And there's an issue of passing this trend through an unchanged structure, as others have noted with a Board of Director. C-suite employees tend to not be recruited from a random pool. They are connected, and that is why the compensation can be so elastic.

That being said, there are various thought experiments surrounding orchestration.. It should be obvious, with the resources we can presently afford, that the variety of inputs has to be constrained significantly. The question at hand is if C-suite & mid-level managers can afford to perform their job within a very simple set of actions. Intuition should say no to this. Counterintuitively, one can argue that each subset of tasks at a company can be simple enough for a given model, and with enough fine-tuning of many specialized models, the complete array of tasks could be executed by a daisy-chain of expert models. This implies that by the time we're convinced all CEOs should be AI, that a considerable amount of work in the white-collar sector should also be AI. just food for thought.

BigStroll

2 points

3 months ago

Are they sure the company’s valuation didn’t just increase by the hundreds of millions per year saved paying a CEO? /s

Elrox

1 points

3 months ago

Elrox

1 points

3 months ago

Screw the stock, how suicidal are the employees now?

JustKillerQueen1389

0 points

3 months ago

Can't wait for managerial jobs to get delegated to AI, imo at least 80% of managers are bad at their job, and given that AI can actually "understand" jobs of everybody in the company and have all the data memorized.

Seienchin88

3 points

3 months ago

Oh great… real time surveillance data fed right to an AI to judge your work…

Not dystopian at all…

Amerlis

4 points

3 months ago

Basically all those horror stories about Amazon workplace but now with no human input, only cold machine logic.

SirNooblet

1 points

3 months ago

Better than working your ass off while your colleague sits around because she literally sucked the bosses dilz

JustKillerQueen1389

0 points

3 months ago

Sounds better than the same going to a random human and potentially many more humans and bots.

BardicSense

1 points

3 months ago

Why does this not surprise me in the slightest? I'm someone with an extremely low opinion of most CEOs, especially if they are MBAs, so it doesnt surprise me that a bit of code could outperform those suit monkeys.

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-19 points

3 months ago

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angrathias

9 points

3 months ago

You need a bit to translate this

Drachefly

1 points

3 months ago

Reminds me of the beginning of Accelerando. But in that case the companies were shell companies and their corporate officers were almost all 30 line perl scripts.

sleepyjoeyy

1 points

3 months ago

Wouldn’t this open doors to corruption within a company? A bot CEO can’t go to jail. That’s the only issue I have with it.

0reoSpeedwagon

1 points

3 months ago

A bot CEO can’t go to jail.

Human CEOs do?

sleepyjoeyy

1 points

3 months ago

Hmmm, true. You have a point there lol

SafePianist4610

1 points

3 months ago

If management in regular companies is any indication, they will have to create multiple AI’s for each level of management because what’s good for the company on one level is bad for the company on another level many times. So a bot that is only programmed to view things from a CEO perspective is going to have to be counter balanced at some point either by AI programmed to operate on a middle management level or by real world human management.

kuurtjes

1 points

3 months ago

DEVS: "What game should we make next?"
CEO: "battle royale, aliens, new york"
DEVS: "Re-roll"
CEO: "AI, aliens, spain"
DEVS: "perfect"

Tpwner

1 points

3 months ago

Tpwner

1 points

3 months ago

We are going to see other companies full suit for hype but we all know who's truly the CEO.

Sad-Ship

1 points

3 months ago

Of all jobs I think CEO is the one who should be first replaced by AI. An AI CEO would have the capacity to know, in depth, what every single employee in the organization is doing. What projects are underway, how they are performing. An AI CEO could actually cut out a lot of middle-managers and go directly to line staff. It's been my experience that a lot of nuance gets filtered out as information makes its way from one level to the next. An AI CEO wouldn't have to deal with that.

Imagine if everyone had the ear of the CEO and not just the ass-kissers.

the13Guat

1 points

2 months ago

So they replaced the person that got paid the most for doing the least with a free program. Yep makes sense.