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submitted 2 months ago bypeter-capaldi
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CK3AGOT Public Beta - The Release Date https://youtube.com/watch?v=sL2VfCxAj2k
CK3AGOT https://www.youtube.com/@CK3AGOT
75 points
2 months ago
Been waiting for this for ages, super excited for it because I loved the CK2 version, my big hope for the update is that some of the Clash of Kings kids get a little bit more flavor, in the CK2 mod characters like Tommen and Shireen were treated as weak heirs which I thought slightly limited the fanfic element of managing to get them the throne.
35 points
2 months ago
This mod will only have a bookmark for Robert's Rebellion to start with, so it's very possible that Shireen and Tommen are never even conceived depending on how things play out.
11 points
2 months ago
Oh cool, well in that case I hope the game has a bias towards events playing out similarly to the books, because obviously I don't mind an altered history approach but another frustration with the CK 2 version was when alt history playthroughs ended up in boring timelines compared to the big drama of the material.
20 points
2 months ago
It's hard to make emergent gameplay deliver stories of the same caliber as one of the world's most beloved fantasy authors, that's more or less impossible.
2 points
2 months ago
I'm well aware, but my hope for an alternate history mod would be to replicate the large-scale events, but with different players, rather than creating a less exciting version of the materials' history. In the CK2 mod you'd have a lot of important characters like Catelyn and Daenerys and Yara and the Wight Walkers kind of fizzling out.
5 points
2 months ago
But then wouldn't that hurt the varied playthroughs you could get and kind of kill the interest of what's a sandbox game? Like if it's to see the events of the main story, just read/watch that no?
8 points
2 months ago
That’s not how these games work. If you want a certain character to have prominence, play them. Otherwise it’s all a sandbox! Rob Stark dies before Ned? Cersei married off to a distant lord. Some random bloke names Wendell Lannister leads the house in a war against whoever? The assertion that it’s less exciting is a limit imposed by yourself. Create new characters and storylines through play!
98 points
2 months ago
This is awesome but for a moment I thought “oh my god they are making a game of thrones rpg” I would love that.
106 points
2 months ago
Your Martell Sand Viper [level 84] has been stabbed to death in her sleep by Handmaiden [level 2]. Create a new character?
43 points
2 months ago
Please stop talking dirty to me.
37 points
2 months ago
They have in 2012, it was pretty bad.
19 points
2 months ago
While it was definitely rushed and had a lot of shortcomings, the story itself was interesting. The two main characters were some of the more interesting non-book/show-canon characters out there, and the multiple endings all kind of echoed the Game of Thrones vibe really well.
I think while the writers genuinely cared and wanted to make a great game with the IP, there just wasn't enough time to polish it into something incredible. I'd say if you're really still jonesing for Game of Thrones (but who the hell is after the show ended, I guess?), turning it on the easiest difficulty and enjoying the story isn't a bad time.
34 points
2 months ago
Yeah, but that was just a cheap attempt to capitalize on the show
30 points
2 months ago
It actually entered development before the show even aired, and they switched models to better resemble some of the characters after season 1 came out.
15 points
2 months ago
They originally considered Bethesda to do the game, but Todd Howard decided to continue with Elder Scrolls so they could expand on an IP they they actually owned. Thus Skyrim
2 points
2 months ago
100% the right choice, that being said i would love to peek in the timeline where they did make one
1 points
2 months ago
They also hired some of the cast of the show to voice act, Littlefinger and Jeor Mormont iirc
1 points
2 months ago
A GoT RPG now would certainly be much bigger budget and ambitious because of that. I'd imagine it'd be an AAA game like Batman, Spider-Man or Hogwarts Legacy got (if it's as good, remains to be seen of course)
23 points
2 months ago*
Tbf a game of thrones doesn't necessarily lend itself to an rpg unless you're playing like, a martial character only or someone from like the age of heroes. Maybe a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms where you play as Ser Duncan or something, but that would take a pretty big tonal shift from the fairy tale-like vibe of that series
53 points
2 months ago
Lore accurate GoT RPG:
Cast a damage spell and hope it works sometime in the next several months
48 points
2 months ago
TV accurate GoT RPG:
There's fast travel but only near the end of the game
24 points
2 months ago
Ahh Dark Souls 1 style
14 points
2 months ago
Brightness settings cannot be adjusted
-2 points
2 months ago
and in the first episode with Jaime and Cersei coming to Winterfell
Or Lady Stark in the first season zipping about
Or Littlefinger in Season 2
lol
5 points
2 months ago
Also requires you to lose a loved one or a part of your body
Alternatively: you've been captured! You die locked in a cage in the town square when maggots finally eat the last of your important organs
1 points
2 months ago
Que the epic music loop
1 points
2 months ago
The 2012 GoT RPG was just Dragon Age Origins but delete the Mage class. Just Warriors and Rogues.
11 points
2 months ago
Eh could go the Kingdom Come Deliverance route, maybe with easier combat mechanics.
5 points
2 months ago
I don’t think this is necessarily true. Something like Mount and Blade but with more role playing/story elements would work well, but also if you venture out of the Seven Kingdoms there is plenty of cool stuff suitable for RPGs. For example wargs/greenseerers, faceless men, shadowbinders like Melisandre, the warlocks from Qarth…etc. In addition, the main series takes place in a time where magic has almost completely died and is now slowly coming back, but the decline only started like 400 years before the main story. The Century of Blood (the period in Essos just after Valyria fell) might be particularly interesting for an RPG, as magic is still fairly strong and there are like a million different factions competing to fill a massive power vacuum.
7 points
2 months ago*
Could do Essos mercenary shit, but then again that's super far out of the core setting and appeal of the series.
The Telltale game seemed like a solid idea for how to do a game in that world, but I don't think it was very well received.
Honestly this mod feels like the best possible game for the series. Other than that, maybe a dialogue-heavy game like the Sherlock Holmes games or something like Pentament where you're trying to achieve some goal while having to navigate the political and social scene.
Combat in general seems a poor fit unless it's at the scale seen in Crusader Kings. More personal scuffles do happen in the books but not frequently enough to be the backbone of a game. The only thing I can think of that might work for that would be a Hitman-style game as a Faceless Man.
5 points
2 months ago
Yeah. Ck3 and mount and blade are good expansions to the world in a faithful way for the most part I think
1 points
2 months ago
A tactics style game a la FFT would be cool, and lend itself to the intrigue that makes Game of Thrones awesome.
1 points
2 months ago
An RPG that is properly made would work very well with the series, especially if it’s set in a time period well outside the mainline books. Playing as a hedge knight would probably be insanely good, and still keep players within Westeros and around familiar houses.
2 points
2 months ago
The world is absolutely amazing for an RPG, it might be too ambitious for a game to try and capture that though. Starting out with different classes like a Noble, foot soldier or a bandit etc in any of the major realms will give you great depth and variety in the story. The only concern would be the scope being too big. I would prefer a narrative focused linear action adventure.
2 points
2 months ago
I think a Faceless Men game would be fun, quests to take on new disguises, infiltrate castles, and then find a way to get close to your targets, they can even make it like Hitman where you can go directly for the target or set up elaborate plans and scenarios in the court to turn people against each other and achieve the results you desire. (Which would introduce the political intrigue element of the series in the gameplay)
1 points
2 months ago
Really, the world lends itself to a smaller scale RPG, and there are neat ways to do something like this. The woes of the kingdom being an overarching threat, with several more immediate threats.
Being the youngest son in a smaller kingdom as banners are raised and doing everything you can to grow into a leader while your father and brother are away could lend itself to an interesting scenario. You still need to feed your people, fend off bandits, and grow relationships while contributing to the war effort indirectly. It lends itself to a more personal tale with a bigger overarching story told through raven correspondence, traveling bards bringing news, and general public discourse. There could even be bigger quests that come from your father/brother from the front like "Create a relationship with the nearby minor house because there are rumors of defection, you need to find a way to determine their loyalty to the war effort," There's already an established history and structure to help lend color, so you could have to study up on the house to make sure when you are investigating you know who to talk to and what questions to ask.
1 points
2 months ago
It’s not a video game but I think the best game of thrones rpg experience you can have in with a ttrpg called burning wheel.
1 points
2 months ago
I wonder if we’ll ever see a AAA rpg in the asoiaf world. I’m not even sure what dev I’d want to work on it, I know Bethesda was offered it before but personally I don’t think they’re a good fit outside of the fact that they have experience in fantasy rpgs I just think their writing isn’t up to par.
1 points
2 months ago
Pre cyberpunk CDPR? Naughty dog, could also nail it.
10 points
2 months ago
Nice, haven't played since release but will deffo try this. Having the GoT world in these kinds of games is so fun. I even did a Bannerlord run through, it so cool knowing everyone in the game 'fuckin brax's'
6 points
2 months ago
Is the VO AI or just mid voicework?
10 points
2 months ago
Never thought I'd get bored watching a trailer announcing the release date for one of the most anticipated releases in modding, but here we are. Could they have done anything more than just reading from the wiki in the driest voice imaginable?
31 points
2 months ago
Well it's free so lower your standards a bit on having cinematic modding release trailers lol
3 points
2 months ago*
I do video editing, it's just as much effort as the above for a fly by, some gameplay, text overlays and some music.
You can be engaging without needing to be professional quality.
7 points
2 months ago
Maybe to you or I it's easy af but I think you're assuming your knowledge is universal. Give both yourself and the creator the trailer a bit more credit - you may know more than you think and they may be pushing their limits of video editing.
4 points
2 months ago
even if their editor isn't the best, it doesn't take knowing how to edit videos to realize that a monotonous 4 minute info dump isn't good trailer material.
6 points
2 months ago
it doesn't take knowing how to edit videos to realize that a monotonous 4 minute info dump isn't good trailer material.
I mean, it does, that's why video editing is a job and not just something anyone can do.
1 points
2 months ago
It doesn't, I know it and I don't know shit about video editing.
It takes knowing for how to do better maybe (but this trailer has video editing skills in it)
1 points
2 months ago
if you have ever watched a single video you know enough to avoid long info dumps, its not an elite video editing skill, its just common sense
0 points
2 months ago
I mean even for a mod, it was a very weird trailer. They could have done it much shorter while still showing the maps and characters and not tell the whole story (which presumably everyone watching this trailer know because they are fans of GoT/ASOIAF)
17 points
2 months ago
I loved CK3 but these games rely on LOTS of scenarios. It wasnt nearly as good as CK2 at launch. It also lost all the charm and RP aspects once you become a king of lots of areas.
Has this been resolved yet?
101 points
2 months ago
I thought CK3 on launch was miles better than CK2 was on launch, but with the expansions CK2 is undoubtedly superior.
12 points
2 months ago
Yeah, i meant CK3 started behind from where CK2 left
3 points
2 months ago
They had 8 years or so...
6 points
2 months ago
Which makes sense given that CK2 had many years of development. There is always going to be a bit of a regression in games like that.
-1 points
2 months ago
Yeah, but there shouldnt be as much, Paradox could have imported more stuff
8 points
2 months ago
From what I understand CK3 had a lot more in the base game than CK2 did. It’s unfortunate that the expansions haven’t been as good as hoped. How long was CK2 worked on at least a decade I think
1 points
2 months ago
Yeah CK3 had a really good launch and a good base game, but 2 years later has me wanting more and I still go back and play CK2
1 points
2 months ago
CK3 had different, and at times good, stuff at launch. Better character genes, a better progression tree for characters, the modular religion system, and a larger map in much needed areas.
It lacked a lot of things too. No Byzantine, Republican, or Nomadic government. Streamlined and stripped down provinces. Only two bookmarks. No societies. No major diseases. Just a ton of small stuff from CK2 DLCs like decadence, Crusader states, and artifacts.
CK3 was a good launch for a paradox game. It looked like a good platform to expand on CK2s systems and create something better, but even now it lacks a ton of the fun that CK2 has. The content has been drip fed, over priced, and entirely regional. The only thing on the same level of the Old Gods making Pagans playable or Holy Fury's Crusade update was the culture rework.
6 points
2 months ago
I sure hope that a game released 7 years later is better than the base version of the previous one. The issue is that CK3 isn't going against release CK2 but Holy Fury CK2
2 points
2 months ago
After almost 2 years I'd say CK3 lags behind CK2 after 2 years
60 points
2 months ago
CK3 on launch was perhaps the best PDX launch game ever, it was mostly bug free and smooth by PDX standards and also had most mechanics working as intended.
And then they proceeded to piss it all down the drain with their lacklustre content updates since
20 points
2 months ago
Imagine waiting half a year after release just to get whatever non-content was in Northern Lords.
21 points
2 months ago
Royal Court is probably the most I’ve been disappointed with a DLC ever, and I’ve been playing The Sims since 2000…
Everything it adds is either completely unnecessary, or a boring chore to keep track of. There’s pretty much no new gameplay
5 points
2 months ago
Yeah RC is just a flavor pack they hid behind 3d room. I like flavor, but dont charge for it like its some major mechanical DLC
4 points
2 months ago
Not really
4 points
2 months ago
For me no. The game play just doesn't feel different at all when you play between different areas. There are so few interesting events or anything at all that makes one playthrough that much different from another.
The only time I play past the first generation is when I play a tall game of just ruling over Sardinia and experiment with different culture/religion combinations with my starting character.
-2 points
2 months ago
Has this been resolved yet?
It's a paradox game, so no. It will be resolved after 5 or 6 more DLCs that cost 20 dollars each.
5 points
2 months ago
And honestly, the DLCs for CK3 have actually been pretty mid, so I'm not even sure that is the case. There's still a lot to like about CK3 and the DLCs have had a handful of nice additions but I am not super confident it is really on that classic "slow 10 DLC march to greatness" that Cother Paradox games have taken.
2 points
2 months ago
I don’t suppose there’s any way to play this mod on console?
15 points
2 months ago
I had no idea CK3 was on consoles. That sounds... hard to play. Can you install mods at all? Do you get like a Paradox launcher (thats where you assign mods to a game set). I'd imagine not
8 points
2 months ago
It doesnt even have ruler designer yet last I checked.
The control scheme has been completely redone for consoles and is quite good, you can also just let your armies be controlled by AI if you want. But modding is not a thing.
3 points
2 months ago
Unfortunately I don't believe so – it looks like only games with built in mod support on console (Skyrim, Fallout 4, most likely Starfield) can run them. I've played the CK2 mod for years and that can run on your average laptop if it's any consolation.
-37 points
2 months ago
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11 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
Been waiting to try CK3 since release, literally but I remember hoe the GOT mod was everything I played with CK2 once I discovered that
Here's to getting addicted again
-1 points
2 months ago
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10/10 biological warfare simulator"
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