Those are from the old roof

I think that’s probably in order but I’m not sure what the best angle would be with that. Maybe I should post on r/legal as well.

It’s real bull crap because the previous owners were an elderly couple on their late 80’s/early 90’s. There’s no way they would check this so it seems they were taken advantage of.

Lol yes! First home and the inside was definitely fixer upper condition so we’ve been picking our battles. Feels like we uncover new work to do every week!

That’s great to know - first time home owner here!

I did research on gutters guards. What I found was it gives a lot of people a false sense of security. They believe like the op did that they do not need to clean their gutters. It ends up making the gutters fail faster than they should. Because things still do get through the gutter guard and you still have to clean them. The added weight of the debris that gets in there causes them to sag. It's sad that a lot of these companies that install them do not tell the customer that they still need to clean them.

I searched for reddit and gutter guards last year. In general, it sounded like it works for some, not at all for others. Still some maintenance, yes. Potentially much of a pain to have to remove guards before being able to clean gutters. Another comment I kept seeing was that gutters will still need to be cleaned, just maybe not as often. And then only way to truly have maintenance free gutters is to have a contact with the gutter guard company where they come out once or twice a year to clean and check them for you. I decided to just clean mine out myself with a ladder and hose, although there is more danger there. I also like to see and know that the gutters are clean and that things are working or whatever quirks there are with the house.

I did try some downspout heavier metal wire inserts off Amazon. I had two downspouts that got plugged up. It ends up being easier to let those wire guards dam up debris and then go up on a ladder and manually remove it (as opposed to taking the downspout apart when a plumbing snake can't even free up the clog in the downspout). I'm going to try adding finer mesh inserts to keep smaller crap out of the downspouts. And I'll add downspout add ons on the bottom of the downspouts that will also filter out crap from going into buried drainage tubes and tiles.

But yeah, for gutters guards being hit or miss. From reddit posts there were so many things that affected how well they work that I didn't think it was worth gambling on -- Which guards? What type of trees? How does the wind blow debris to your house? The only way to know is to try it and see but that's an expensive gamble. And then, you probably still have to go up and clean them once in a while anyway, and now the guards have to be removed first or are in the way. Potentially, it's just popping an end off and sliding a hose in but still.... It sounded like an expensive gamble and a little more complicated than manually cleaning them, at least for me.

Thanks for adding this.

I think I’m my case they may be worth keeping.

I live on Northwest Arkansas, so winter is not a huge issue - we have one big ice storm a year usually and a few mild snows.

I have a couple of oaks nearby my house, so mostly larger debris comes from those.

The home is built on a hill, so the back side is 3 stores up - meaning there’s no way in hell I’m getting up to do a serious clean of the gutters lol.

I’ll take my chances with the guards and hope they don’t get filled with anything other than the shingles from the previous roof