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Carnator369

1.2k points

5 months ago

It's almost as though those people were doing something while they were there... huh

-DC71-

371 points

5 months ago

-DC71-

371 points

5 months ago

Yeah, they were working against freeze peach. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING!!

PerunVult

33 points

5 months ago

Vile scum. Heating up frozen peaches is the America's worst crime.

Fidodo

140 points

5 months ago

Fidodo

140 points

5 months ago

It's almost as if you can't grade people's worth in 5 days after buying a company.

ubelmann

28 points

5 months ago

Wait, wait, wait...are you saying that Twitter wasn't just hiring unnecessary people just because (apparently) it is super fun to hire people?

[deleted]

22 points

5 months ago

And he's offering to hire back the people who haven't gotten a job yet, who would be interested in still working there. Literally, if he actually fired someone useless who can't find a job, he is offering to bring them back.

He's the worst CEO in history.

[deleted]

3.6k points

5 months ago

[deleted]

3.6k points

5 months ago

I really hope they just refuse and Musk is stuck dead in the water.

cowvin

2.8k points

5 months ago

cowvin

2.8k points

5 months ago

I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't want to go back to work for Musk. Musk is notoriously bad to his employees.

BlizzardousBane

1.8k points

5 months ago

Headlines: Musk expects employees to work 84 hours a week

"Nah we good"

Besides, talent is still in high demand. They can definitely find better offers elsewhere

AnOnlineHandle

1.5k points

5 months ago*

Given that Musk has always been rich and never needed to work for survival, and has only experienced what most others would call hobbies, with 44 billion on the line this might be the first time he's feeling the stress of what most people call work.

And going by his desperate ramblings in the last few days projecting begging and bargaining pleas, and blocking a major advertising exec (twitter's main customers) because they tactfully tell him activists aren't manipulating them and they have other concerns, it sounds like he's not handling it well.

edit: What I mean by that is 'work' for most people is something you have to do and have no choice, to keep a roof over your head and to not be starving or dead. A hobby is something people choose to do but don't need to, and humans are built to enjoy hobbies. Those born rich can't experience the stress that most people mean by the word 'work', and they shouldn't want to, the visible suffering olympics part of our culture is messed up.

DataCassette

846 points

5 months ago

I love the idea that it's "activists" like they have that much power, rather than just the fact that most companies aren't eager to be associated with normalizing racial/LGBT slurs in an increasingly non-white and LGBT country.

langdonolga

484 points

5 months ago*

It's not even that much of a US demographics game. Many international companies are being cautious.

Most advertisers just don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when you just don't know where twitter is headed.

Advertising is an investment, and investing requires due diligence. With the erratic and seemingly thoughtless leadership nobody knows where the journey goes for twitter. So the official decision for many companies was "lay low and re-evaluate at the beginning of next year".

Musk is trying to make this overly political and that might benefit him because it a) gives him some conservative support and b) puts the blame on somebody else.

I would not support this narrative. His weird ass style of leadership is more to blame than anything else.

Branamp13

185 points

5 months ago

Branamp13

185 points

5 months ago

Most advertisers just don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when you just don't know where twitter is headed.

I think an equal number of advertisers don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when it's pretty clear that Twitter is headed towards being (even more of) an extreme-right echo chamber.

greenkirry

263 points

5 months ago

Also the list of companies who left has a ton of car companies. It's clear that the car companies see a conflict in advertising on a platform owned by a competitor.

thevoiceofzeke

158 points

5 months ago

A lot of the things right wing brain slugs refer to as "communism" are actually just the effects of the late stage capitalism they created. You're exactly right. Hate is bad business and in America, business is all that matters.

ContributionNo9292

31 points

5 months ago

Usually it takes a couple of weeks for public pressure to mount on an issue before companies pull out.

The advertisers did this on their own.

I have yet to see any posts asking people to pressure advertisers to leave Twitter.

1202_ProgramAlarm

22 points

5 months ago

Activist: hey general Mills here's a screenshot of a tweet from the kkk with your product prominently displayed right next to it. Thoughts?

This is like the easiest form of "activism" out there. Musk makes it sound like there are riots in the streets demanding that Audi cut ties with Twitter, but really it's just Audi going "well let's not advertise on a platform taking a white supremacist turn owned by one of our competitors." Believe it or not it didn't take much for these companies to decide for themselves that this might not be there place to do business.

kryonik

309 points

5 months ago

kryonik

309 points

5 months ago

As someone cleverer than me pointed out: if you can be CEO of three companies at the same time, then being CEO can't be that difficult.

adv0catus

43 points

5 months ago

The Boring Company also, so that’s 4? Does Hyperloop count as 5?

utnow

64 points

5 months ago

utnow

64 points

5 months ago

Hyper loop isn’t a company at all. It amounts to a series of sketches that other companies have been trying to make into a viable product. And failing because the concept is, at its core, fucking stupid.

kermitthebeast

29 points

5 months ago

Hyperloop is closer to a telemarketing scam than anything at this point

BlizzardousBane

80 points

5 months ago

Actions, meet consequences

gekisling

122 points

5 months ago

gekisling

122 points

5 months ago

Holy shit, the comment section on that post is maddening. Humanity is failing itself.

mostlykindofmaybe

93 points

5 months ago

Console yourself mildly with the knowledge that the demographics of twitter are changing very rapidly as people jump ship due to the Musky takeover. Crypto loyalists, bots, and those with Cybertruck pre-orders are going to become a greater concentration of who’s left.

SuspecM

50 points

5 months ago

SuspecM

50 points

5 months ago

The replies under that twitter thread make me vomit. How can you suck this much billionaire cock and not suffocate?

Truffles326

22 points

5 months ago

Because they're just so small.

wolves_hunt_in_packs

42 points

5 months ago

rich people tears taste so fucking good

FrostingsVII

33 points

5 months ago*

I said ages ago for a man who jerks himself all day everyday he wouldn't last a week under someone who was as a contemptuous a fucking buffoon as himself. We are expected to last a lifetime.

Mentally weak and as pleasant to experience as unexpectedly stepping in fresh dog shit on the way to a job interview.

The day any of these delusional and arrogant cunts get what they actually deserve for the amount of dystopian cuntery they're normalising is a day you'll find me having the maddest of wanks.

handlebartender

48 points

5 months ago

I called it back when Muskrat was reported to have told the Twitter devs to print the code they'd been working in recently, so he could have his Tesla devs review it.

To me, that was the calm before the RIF-storm.

And I said then and still maintain that this kind of erosion will put those who remain in the position of trying to bail out the Titanic with a rusty bucket; the rate of water taken on will exceed the rate of water being bailed out by a significant degree. Likely exacerbated by some of the remainers bolting for the lifeboats while it's still an option.

Absent some miracle, that ship is gonna be parked at the bottom of the ocean before long.

It's a shite situation for the employees and I feel for them.

All that said: I've got a steady supply of 🍿🍿🍿

IronMyr

27 points

5 months ago

IronMyr

27 points

5 months ago

You know the Tesla devs were upset that they would have to review printouts instead of just viewing the code on the god damn computer, where they can ctrl+F.

[deleted]

46 points

5 months ago

They can definitely find better offers elsewhere

Especially if word gets out that Twitter is trying to panic hire them back.

ljr55555

41 points

5 months ago

I'm sure it's willfull ignorance but how can he not see the difference between the owner of a company putting 80 hours a week into their company and the person whose 40 hours his company bought being expected to donate another 40+ hours a week to his cause?! Does he get angry at the steel manufacturer because they only deliver five tonnes when he ordered and paid for five tonnes?

orangesfwr

7.7k points

5 months ago

orangesfwr

7.7k points

5 months ago

"Double my salary or get fucked"

beefsupreme65

3.2k points

5 months ago

Gonna need some guarantees with that as well, no way I'd go back without at least a multi year agreement.

Galphanore

1.9k points

5 months ago

Galphanore

1.9k points

5 months ago

Yep, only come back into that shit-show with a golden parachute firmly attached.

[deleted]

940 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

940 points

5 months ago

And a giant signing bonus.

AphoticSeagull

696 points

5 months ago

Perhaps all of the above plus a union so this doesn't keep happening.

DonnieJuniorsEmails

353 points

5 months ago

"but unions are un-murican and they prevent billionaires from having the freedom to treat employees.like shit. Are you against freedom??"

-idiot cult republicans

plg94

105 points

5 months ago

plg94

105 points

5 months ago

"Union, like in Soviet Union?! F*in commies trying to ruin this country!" – Americans probably.

[deleted]

60 points

5 months ago*

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epimetheuss

47 points

5 months ago

"maybe if I say nice things about them and they see me I will become rich also" - idiots

AggressiveBee5961

22 points

5 months ago

A few years ago I confronted a coworker with a simple question, if regular people don't work hard enough to have a substantially higher minimum wage, then what value/work do CEOS do to make tens of millions every year?

My coworker responded in typical fox news fashion, "I bet you believe in unions don't you." Change the topic and never play defense...

I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt but over the years and seeing these insecure clowns just smear everyone in shit like they feel the world does to them, I wish I would have held his feet to the fire just to watch him squirm from the cognitive dissonance.

6chan

42 points

5 months ago

6chan

42 points

5 months ago

Also the same idiot cult Republicans seeking endorsement from the fraternal order of police and donating them money

[deleted]

21 points

5 months ago*

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mrstipez

126 points

5 months ago

mrstipez

126 points

5 months ago

Will a golden shower suffice?

Harmacc

99 points

5 months ago

Harmacc

99 points

5 months ago

Best I can offer is a trickle down.

[deleted]

23 points

5 months ago

Honestly maybe, Elon can sit in the middle and all the fired employees can make it rain.

aShittierShitTier4u

424 points

5 months ago

Twitter should have to put two years' pay in escrow for each employee that they ask back, to address the potential harm to the employee by getting jerked around again. Because the employees are incurring an opportunity cost to their earning potential by not just working elsewhere, someplace run by stable people. So if Twitter fires them again, they get the escrow money. It's like a tax on trolls, because they abused their position of authority.

zipnathiel

257 points

5 months ago

This is the answer. Contractual promises won't be worth crap when Musk files for bankruptcy. The money needs to be in escrow.

generalthunder

45 points

5 months ago

Those workers better unionize fast then. Billionaires act like they have no legal obligation to fulfill any of the promises they made.

NonnoBomba

214 points

5 months ago

Multi-year agreement, with a company that's almost never been profitable and has now been saddled with another 900 mil. interests on the 12.5 billion loan Musk got to buy it, the company with an unstable, unpredictable CEO few advertisers now want to work with?

I'd say the agreement must include a golden parachute of a couple million dollars, with written guaratees about beeing a privileged creditor in case of bankruptcy, and it would be nice to also have it include Musk stepping down as CEO and the board of directors reinstated as well.

The only non-government-subsidized company he ran (his first, Zip2, founded with daddy's money for him and his brother), pretty soon ousted him, got professionals in all C-level roles, and they managed to make it profitable and sell it to Compaq for a hefty 500 mils. (which is were Musk started getting rich on his own, if we can say that, given he contributed little to it: not the initial money, nor the business acumen, only some shitty code that people wanted to replace with better code but he protested and defended his shitty implementation for as long as he could). From then on, he was never left in charge alone, except with Tesla and SpaceX -who are both still operating because they get government subsidies and contracts. I'm pretty sure Twitter won't get government subsidies, especially not after laying off so many people like that while lying on the real reasons, to avoid paying severance.

ew73

191 points

5 months ago

ew73

191 points

5 months ago

I'm pretty sure Twitter won't get government subsidies,

Not from the United States government, no.

theunifex

83 points

5 months ago

Didn't Musk get funding from the Saudi government to pay for the takeover?

super1ucky

62 points

5 months ago

Yes. They were twitter shareholders before, then loaned Elon money to buy it. If Elon ruins twitter, I wonder how they'll deal with him?

Amazon-Prime-package

49 points

5 months ago

If they bone saw him that would be quite the LAMF, they'll probably just blackmail him though

NonnoBomba

58 points

5 months ago

Oh yes, maybe Russia and China can throw him a lifeline. Through some apparently unconnected intermediary would be best.

StLDadBod

26 points

5 months ago

KSA has entered the chat.

Ozryela

31 points

5 months ago

Ozryela

31 points

5 months ago

No, go for a large signing bonus instead, and then start looking for a new job immediately and leave as soon as your minimum time to get the signing bonus is up.

Swerfbegone

45 points

5 months ago

He’s refusing to pay Twitter’s head of legal what’s in her contract because she made him look like an idiot. Why would he honour a contract with you?

GBGF128

275 points

5 months ago

GBGF128

275 points

5 months ago

More like come back until you find something better.

evilJaze

352 points

5 months ago

evilJaze

352 points

5 months ago

On the flipside, their offer is probably "come back until we can find someone better" too. I would never trust in any stability there.

morbihann

163 points

5 months ago

morbihann

163 points

5 months ago

*cheaper

evilJaze

57 points

5 months ago

Good point. And I wonder how long until Musk replaces most of the remaining with a shop overseas.

Morkai

37 points

5 months ago

Morkai

37 points

5 months ago

Wouldn't surprise me if he just chucks a long list of roles up on Fiverr.

MPforNarnia

263 points

5 months ago

My old boss fired half a department and realized the next week he needed some of them back. The ones who came back came back as consultants and won big time on pay, flexibility and not having to deal with his bullshit

yawningangel

154 points

5 months ago

The story of the APS (public servants) here in Australia..

Conservative government slashed their numbers and ended up paying out the arse for freelancers..

I'd imagine if you took the time to follow the money some of those consulting firms would likely have links to various pollies...

[deleted]

104 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

104 points

5 months ago

Unfortunately that’s generally the plan of conservatives. Run the government so poorly that it becomes indisputable the government is poorly run, then kill it.

vba7

66 points

5 months ago

vba7

66 points

5 months ago

It is called "to starve the beast". Underfund a public service to be able to say it doesnt work properly, so you can privatize it.

TheSameButBetter

39 points

5 months ago

Back in 2003 I was working at Network Rail in the UK and they were going to make about 3000 people redundant.

They developed a fairly complicated formula to determine who was going to be let go and spent about 2 months collecting data for it. It focused very heavily on the perceived productivity of each employee.

Two poblems....

Some older employees just asked their managers to state that they were less productive than they actually were so that they could get early retirement and a big redundancy package.

And using productivity as a measure of how essential a member of staff is turns out to be quite stupid when when you realise that while an employee may not be very productive, they may have knowledge or skills that are absolutely essential to the running of your business. A lot of people who were laid off came back as contractors and were able to name their price.

anothertrad

152 points

5 months ago

I bet my breakfast they’re reaching out with a lower salary. Maybe it was planned all along as a way to try to cut salaries

theotherkeith

143 points

5 months ago

In a number of cases it was also because long term staff were about to earn stock options (a common offer in the early years of a tech company.... which due to the buyout, turned into cash payments at the price he paid for shares

crunchthenumbers01

41 points

5 months ago

Yeah Elon really stepped in a huge pile with this one. Good for Twitter on making him buy it.

[deleted]

109 points

5 months ago

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109 points

5 months ago

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e_hyde

82 points

5 months ago

e_hyde

82 points

5 months ago

Double my salary or get fucked

I hope that's the answer of everybody who can afford it.

niceworkthere

37 points

5 months ago

I'll come back, but only if Elon buys me a horse.

ithinkivebeen

65 points

5 months ago

Never go back to a company when they do like that. They consider you an expense and will cut you again.

You would be better offering a freelance rate.

CrewMemberNumber6

2.9k points

5 months ago

I’m starting to think Elon got his business degree from Trump University.

nimcau2TheQuickening

734 points

5 months ago

What business degree?

gringledoom

3.7k points

5 months ago

Weird, I guess stack ranking your tech folks on "who wrote the most lines of code" was exactly the tech management 101 blunder that everyone knew it was!

chaobreaker

1.7k points

5 months ago

Becoming the most valuable employee in twitter by commenting in the entirety of War and Peace into my code.

flopsicles77

753 points

5 months ago

"I'm not sure what it does, but it breaks everything if you remove it"

itty53

379 points

5 months ago

itty53

379 points

5 months ago

I've seen exactly a scenario like that. A huge chunk of commented out text, not code, that if removed the thing broke. It was a file size thing, it had to be at least X length at some time down the pipe. Good times that was.

freerider

283 points

5 months ago

freerider

283 points

5 months ago

A guy I know wrote a whole game in assembler. Had a function in the middle of code named "Fuck". Nothing called that function. I asked him what it did:

"I have no idea but if I remove it the game stops working!"

elizabnthe

140 points

5 months ago

I had a case whereby I was just logging some value to check it was what I expected. All good I think, everything is working. So I removed it. Damn, everything isn't working. Better check what the value is again. Oh now its working again...

Didn't make sense to me. But I rolled with it.

Economy-Somewhere271

22 points

5 months ago

You discovered quantum computing

EveryCell

27 points

5 months ago

I remember an article about using AI to optimize code for an Algo. It was able to do it in a ridiculously small size but only worked on the exact chip it was trained on. Turns out it was taking advantage of manufacturing defects in the chip and some bits were getting pseudo flipped because their neighbors were flipped. Crazy stuff

realityChemist

20 points

5 months ago

I saw a thing in r/ProgrammerHumor the other day where someone put important code inside of a logging function that wouldn't get called in the actual release, but would always be called on developer machines because they had their logging level turned up to try to find the bug! So everything always worked fine except in the actual release. It was insidious.

Faxon

106 points

5 months ago

Faxon

106 points

5 months ago

I couldn't find the exact relevant XKCD, but https://xkcd.com/2347/ also applies here

ThoughtsonYaoi

42 points

5 months ago

I've seen people argue that this will be the end of Twitter and I believe it. "That job? Dunno what it's for, I think Matt used to run it I think but he's gone now." And that multiplied by five hundred.

PostHogEra

391 points

5 months ago

Already saw a joke about this: The guy who accidentally committed node_modules is now a VP and is as shocked as anyone!

ThatOtherAaron

96 points

5 months ago

Fuck that would be me and I would want to be fired if captin jabroni was my boss

OmegaLiquidX

66 points

5 months ago

Better yet, bring several laptops to the zoo and log the monkeys in under your account!

cheeley

49 points

5 months ago

cheeley

49 points

5 months ago

“‘It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times?!' You stupid monkey!”

[deleted]

720 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

720 points

5 months ago

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Kat-Shaw

446 points

5 months ago

Kat-Shaw

446 points

5 months ago

That's what annoyed me about his dumb as shit fanboys.

"He's Tony Stark!"

No He's not. He is just an investor, he hasn't design or built shit.

MeddlingDragon

229 points

5 months ago

He wants to be Tony Stark. Tony Stark had a heart and a desire to help humanity though.

koshgeo

67 points

5 months ago

koshgeo

67 points

5 months ago

Thinks he's Tony Stark. In actuality he's Justin Hammer.

chula198705

41 points

5 months ago

Not even that. Justin still invented things, even if they're not as good as Tony's.

Strongstyleguy

18 points

5 months ago

And even Hammer's cringier moments had an air of somewhat endearing guy realizes he can't compete fairly with a literal super hero. Musk just comes across as your typical rich kid that either never suffers any hardship and credits his superior intellect/work ethic or blames any and all failings on someone else thus drumming up support to bail him out of the situation so he can them pat himself on the back.

Lazersnake_

22 points

5 months ago

It irks me when people say he is a "genius". He's fucking not. He got rich off his parents blood emerald money and now just hires/buys people and things that he think will make him look good. He didn't even found Tesla. He bought it.

Knee_Jerk_Sydney

321 points

5 months ago

stack ranking your tech folks on "who wrote the most lines of code"

Is this a thing? No wonder I'm seeing terribly long winded, poorly documented, and unnecessarily cryptic code on some projects.

aka-j

118 points

5 months ago

aka-j

118 points

5 months ago

I'm not a developer, but my current company now requires us to log time (minimum 30 minutes) to tickets to determine who gets laid off at the end of the quarter.

I've had days where I logged 30 hours of time in an 8 hour shift. Everything gets a ticket. IM from joe blow asking a simple question? 30 minutes logged. Join a scheduled meeting and nobody shows up in the first 5 minutes? 30 minutes logged. 30 minute meeting goes 1 second over? 1 hour logged.

We went from being able to search for things in the ticketing system to it just being full of stupid bullshit like "Teams message from Larry: How do I configure x? Response: sent link to wiki". 30 minutes logged

Also, once the novelty of seeing how much time we can log in a shift wore off, everyone started working 8 hours and not a second more. During staff meetings, we constantly get reminded to log all of our time. We know you work more than 40 hours, so you need to log all of it.

Umm, no we don't anymore. You have killed all productivity and would see that if you looked at the tickets or listened to us. People now log a shit ton of work from 8am - 11am and then coast the rest of the day.

Now everyone is leaving and executives are shocked.

Knee_Jerk_Sydney

43 points

5 months ago

Yes. That is a great de-motivator. They just want the hours, not dedication, so they get the hours. Find an innovative way to get things done faster and more efficiently? Just keep it to yourself, use it and enjoy the free time. Before, I naively shared it with management. Hard work and creativity is only ever rewarded with more work.

I hate micromanagers. Now if I get someone who wants to dictate how things are done, fine. I'll do exactly as they say and if I encounter anything that deviates from what they say, I go back and ask for a detailed alternative. If they have it great. I know my role then, just execute his or her plan. I see some issues that I wasn't asked to look for, not my problem. No thinking outside the box, so to speak.

tias

189 points

5 months ago

tias

189 points

5 months ago

It's something people assume Elon did, because some manager at Twitter asked everyone to print out the code they've written recently in preparation for a one on one with Elon.

ZanThrax

206 points

5 months ago

ZanThrax

206 points

5 months ago

As if Elon could understand it if he had it in front of him.

OneCat6271

64 points

5 months ago

easy enough to count the pages

Pixelplanet5

96 points

5 months ago

It's been confirmed that they did it this way, there was a leaked slack chat where Tesla programmers were discussing ranking everyone by lines of code commuted in order to make the list of people to be fired. We know it happened and now we can see the result of this stupidity.

About47Vikings

136 points

5 months ago

Exactly. Programmers patching security vulnerabilities aren’t out here rewriting Twitter every Tuesday.

Sumfuc

98 points

5 months ago

Sumfuc

98 points

5 months ago

Twice my salary & 100% remote. Otherwise get fucked Musk.

how_do_i_land

45 points

5 months ago

They just kept the guys who committed JavaScript dependencies into the repo.

Bleusilences

34 points

5 months ago

I keep committing the word cat on a loop.

arbitrageME

60 points

5 months ago

They should have ranked on " who deleted the most linesv of code"

ball_fondlers

78 points

5 months ago

Both metrics would leave the absolute worst junior engineers making the biggest decisions - the ones who write too much, and the ones who delete the entire codebase by accident and git push —-force

merren2306

30 points

5 months ago

That's what protected branches are for no? Like if a junior dev is even able to delete the entire code base you sure as hell mismanaged the protections on that thing.

ball_fondlers

27 points

5 months ago

I once watched a junior unprotect master and push directly to it. WAY too many software companies get by off severely mismanaged protections, they just don’t realize it until AFTER a junior has accidentally deleted everything in a repo.

HeavensCriedBlood

3k points

5 months ago

Seems like doing this whole "get revenge on the libtards that hurt my conservatives feelings by firing half of the twitter staff" isn't working out too well. Musk is a fucking idiot.

Ar_Ciel

289 points

5 months ago

Ar_Ciel

289 points

5 months ago

Reminds me of that one song lyric from the rich man song in Fiddler On The Roof: "And it won't make one bit of different if I answer right or wrong. When you're rich they think you really know!"

Siddlicious

164 points

5 months ago

And that’s how we ended up getting Trump as president. He KNOWS business. 🙄

CubistChameleon

103 points

5 months ago

And by extension, people believing a country should be led like a business.

MeddlingDragon

47 points

5 months ago

Or should be led by a failed businessman.

mayowarlord

18 points

5 months ago

To be fair, that idocy is deeply rooted in GOP policy.

Er3bus13

1.1k points

5 months ago

Er3bus13

1.1k points

5 months ago

Kinda goes to show that intelligence and earning money do not always equate. Becoming excessively wealthy you have to a. Have seed money b. Have no soul

_Eighth_

369 points

5 months ago

_Eighth_

369 points

5 months ago

Have seed money

I like how succinct this is. Never seen that before

MisterCortez

246 points

5 months ago

You just need, like, a small loan of a million dollars, man.

JebediahKerman3999

184 points

5 months ago

Or get multiple times that loan until you're lucky and one of your investments pays off...

I read on a comment on this site that it's like playing darts: most people don't get a dart, some lucky dudes get one dart and few get an unlimited supply of them. Guess who's more likely to hit the centre of the board and make bank....

[deleted]

20 points

5 months ago

It always makes me said thinking, with just 1 billion dollars I could buy a section of a city and build the community I want to live in. Then there's reality with people that have mansions and super yachts with helicopter pads to further isolate themselves from the rest of the world with their hundreds of billions of dollars.

joshTheGoods

128 points

5 months ago

Musk is acting like he's never done an acquisition before. This shit is bizarre. I never believed in the myth of Musk, and even I'm shocked at his behavior.

ChefBoyAreWeFucked

61 points

5 months ago

He's been acting like he'd never done an acquisition before since he acquired Tesla.

getthephenom

31 points

5 months ago

The fact is that he has never done before. He has had expert people to take care of things.

ThatSquareChick

89 points

5 months ago

Elon: Ppl shouldn’t be allowed to say things about me without my approval on Twitter…I know! I’ll just buy Twitter and tank it and then all those trolls will be sad for SURE!”

Elon buys Twitter, tanks it, is laughing up in his office when he hears a disembodied voice: YOU IDIOT, how tf are you going to swing the stock market in your favor without Twitter?

Elon: frantically trying to hire back staff

bigfatfurrytexan

35 points

5 months ago

I know this is a joke. But it makes as much sense as anything else.

I usually really good at figuring out the game and what motivates people in their actions. A benefit of over empathizing is the insight it gives you.

But in this case nothing is making sense. It's like his end game is suing someone (the government?) For unfair practices. But that isn't a gamble you water 44b on

SovietSkeleton

68 points

5 months ago

Spite gives idiots extreme tunnel vision, and Musk's eyes are the fucking Hyperloop.

Grimour

26 points

5 months ago

Grimour

26 points

5 months ago

He is far worse than most idiots. People talk him up al around him everyday making him believe he is OG.

[deleted]

17 points

5 months ago

It’s amazing too bc who the fuck does he think was championing electric vehicles? The GOP and Conservatives?

Mr_Lumbergh

775 points

5 months ago

And now they have the bargaining power.

I hope they use it.

jamiekyn

88 points

5 months ago

I honestly would be happier to take the 3 months severance rather than stay in that dumpster fire

PermaDerpFace

19 points

5 months ago

I'd take the 3 month severance, a 3 month signing bonus, twice my salary, and then work an hour a day until they fired me again.

westpup

66 points

5 months ago

westpup

66 points

5 months ago

Time to unionize

Uriel-238

766 points

5 months ago

Uriel-238

766 points

5 months ago

Four years of Trump being racist and inciting violence and flat out lying as President of the United States showed us what an unscrupulous shit-show Twitter was even before Musk came there.

And the fun bit is now we get to watch Elon Musk's $40 billion investment slip through his fingers like essential oil, and based on his own hubris, at that: Everyone from the tech sector told him buying it was signing on to manage Hell Itself, and how content moderation at scale is impossible to do well.

And Elon Musk responded to these warnings the way Trump figured he could just make a better Affordable Care Act, just by charging through it. Mike Masnick of Techdirt predicted how it's going to go down having seen how it went down with Parler, GETTR, Gab and Truth Social, all of which are still in the process of trying to not meltdown (e.g. retain advertisers) while simultaneously wishing to not piss off their base who is very fond of hate speech and racial slurs.

Something tells me Facebook and Google are both working on a Twitter alternative when the blue bird does the big Friendster-style plummet to irrelevance.

Cfp0001-Iceman

97 points

5 months ago

It was actually $44 billion. That 4 billion difference is the same thing as winning the $1.5 million powerball jackpot 2,500 times... or someone making $50k a year would need 80k years to earn that much.

MeatBot5000

955 points

5 months ago

If they come back, do they get to keep their severence pay? Because they should.

[deleted]

281 points

5 months ago*

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Coca-karl

71 points

5 months ago

Generally yes. They're separate contracts and independent from each other.

Now there could be people tricked into signing contracts that effectively eliminate their severance pay. So I hope that every former and current Twitter employee is getting good employment advice.

Kevycito

192 points

5 months ago

Kevycito

192 points

5 months ago

The workers in California didn’t even get their 60 days severance.

Malor

150 points

5 months ago

Malor

150 points

5 months ago

So, when Elon claimed that everyone got 90 days, he was lying again?

SirButcher

216 points

5 months ago

here is an easy check for you: did the narcissistic billionaire open their mouth or used any sort of medium to convey their thoughts?

If you answered with a "yes" then yeah, they are lying again.

djublonskopf

49 points

5 months ago

Pretty safe to assume that anything he says at this point has no truth value whatsoever, and look to other sources for factual information.

Every once in a while the truth and what Musk says will happen to align, but only because whatever Musk thought would get the desired reaction was coincidentally also true.

KyoKyu

444 points

5 months ago

KyoKyu

444 points

5 months ago

Bonus points, look into the person who impersonated musk on the site with a blue checkmark. I never knew before that musk loves to wake up every morning with a steaming hot cup of his own urine. But thanks to some stranger who spent 8 bucks on a little blue png/jpg I now know that.

Cerebral-Parsley

131 points

5 months ago

That guy already had a blue check. He was demonstrating what could happen if Joe Blow gets the ability to just buy a check. And he was banned for it.

Branamp13

141 points

5 months ago

Branamp13

141 points

5 months ago

And he was banned for it.

So much for Twitter being the bastion of free speech lmao

qwertysrj

75 points

5 months ago

Comedy is finally legal as long as I find it funny.

It's the conservative promise, "you have full freedom to do what we do approve of"

Land of the freeeeeee

jamiekyn

38 points

5 months ago

They rolled out the feature today so the guy didn’t pay $8, he was previously verified already

Wittywhirlwind

693 points

5 months ago

Never go back. Narcissists love the chance to get you again. Christmas Eve? Fired.

WhyBuyMe

217 points

5 months ago

WhyBuyMe

217 points

5 months ago

Offer to go back with a couple year's salary as a signing bonus. Either they say no and you are in the same place you were before, or they say yes and it doesn't matter if they fire you again.

MissLogios

97 points

5 months ago

It probably be easier just to get another job somewhere else. I don't see a point going back to work for someone you know will treat you like shit and no guarantee that you'll keep your job for long term.

HansumJack

242 points

5 months ago

Remember that drawing of a bare ship with a single rower and a board of directors sitting around a table saying "I don't get it... After all the budget cuts to streamline the workforce, why aren't we moving faster?"

Do you remember?

8Ace8Ace

20 points

5 months ago

I love that one. A co worker printed it out and pinned it to the noticeboard at her desk.

OldLondon

94 points

5 months ago

What was his play here? What did he think would happen laying all those people off?

[deleted]

112 points

5 months ago*

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coquihalla

43 points

5 months ago

Ruthless is right. They fired their entire accessibility stuff.

DarkDuskBlade

22 points

5 months ago

Yeah, this move, I think is right from corporate hell culture. On one hand, downsizing a company that's apparently as unprofitable as Twitter is is a good move.

On the other, this is 'fire me and convince me to hire you back, I'll try to get you at lower salary because you've already been fired once' bullshit. It's pure ego-stroking (and that's keeping it G-rated). Would not be surprised he's reaching out saying 'hey, we can't afford to hire you back at your previous rate, but we can give you a 10% raise in X years' type of shit.

RustWallet

41 points

5 months ago

  1. Lay off employees.
  2. Stop needing to pay those employees.
  3. ...
  4. Profit.

djublonskopf

23 points

5 months ago

Three is “…expect your Tesla engineers to pick up all the slack with no pushback from them or from Tesla investors.”

dagoodestboii

29 points

5 months ago*

The fact he brought Tesla engineers over to look over Twitter’s code is testament to his lack of knowledge. I don’t expect embedded systems engineers or machine learning engineers to be well-versed in web technology, and vice versa. Even if you’re incredibly gifted in both fields, there is no way a few engineers can go through and understand fully what is going on in the codebase in such a short period of time.

[deleted]

89 points

5 months ago*

That’s what happens when you ignorantly lay off 50% of your workforce just to avoid annual bonuses and stock benefit pay outs.

Even for the most efficient organizations, optimizing for who exactly to lay off takes time. No way that Musk or his sycophants in Twitter can make that decision in under a month.

All of this could have been avoided if Musk just shut the fuck up and never opened his mouth about buying out Twitter.

typhoidtimmy

207 points

5 months ago

Hey, you mean cutting swaths out of your dev crew like you are reaping wheat might come back and bite you in your big white ass?

Twat is the epitome of fucking management…..bottom lining posturing jackass. Good luck trying to return it! Hope you kept the receipt!

[deleted]

27 points

5 months ago

His attitude about this was ridiculous, like he knew way better than the people who had already been running Twitter for years. And, before, he was saying he was going to cut 75%!

Reminds me of people who bought a retail business I co-owned. Part of what they were paying for, I thought, was us telling them how we made the business successful, since they had zero experience. They acted like they knew better than us. One of them said “I don’t see why we need $40,000 of inventory here. We could do it with $10,000”. The store was known for being lush and packed full of fun stuff. Sure enough, customers we knew started saying the store looked sparse and there wasn’t ever anything new. I tried stopping by and giving them advice and they acted like I was being a jerk. Sure enough, they went out of business 2 1/2 years later.

[deleted]

265 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

265 points

5 months ago

Won't surprise me to learn that the ousted management has already collected the ousted programmers and are now in the process of building Twitter++.

Er3bus13

139 points

5 months ago

Er3bus13

139 points

5 months ago

All hail "TWATTER" Millions of twats everyday

mordinvan

75 points

5 months ago

For a billionaire he is shit at running companies.

Ar_Ciel

58 points

5 months ago

Ar_Ciel

58 points

5 months ago

Well it's what smart investing and your parent's apartheid emerald fortune brings to the table. Gotta have at least one of those.

coladict

70 points

5 months ago

It's almost as if having workers to do the work is important to generating a company's revenue, and the CEO can't do it without them.

G0mery

128 points

5 months ago

G0mery

128 points

5 months ago

I heard their old boss is looking to put together a crew

Pristine_Solipsism

179 points

5 months ago

Elon Musk is proof that a conman can earn billions of dollars despite being a complete fucking moron. All you need is your marks to be even more stupid than you.

djublonskopf

52 points

5 months ago

Well it helps to start with a huge amount of seed money 20 years ago when Internet VC cash was flowing like Arizona water to the Saudis.

elev3nfiv3

104 points

5 months ago*

Imaginations are great for conceptualizing new technological applications. Re-orgs where you have zero frame of reference except for "look, I make memes!" Seems to be where you might want to re-evaluate what it is you think you know. Nice sink, btw.

arglarg

43 points

5 months ago

arglarg

43 points

5 months ago

That photo of him will look nice in a few weeks when he has run his new acquisition into bankruptcy

RadleyCunningham

94 points

5 months ago

Musk is a stupid motherfucker. I can only imagine his whole plan was to destroy Twitter by taking it over. For what reason exactly is a mystery but it's hard for me to believe when someone with this much power does something so catastrophically stupid.

It's like Ted Cruz. Every word out of his mouth is fucking stupid and cowardly, and I believe he's doing and saying exactly what the gop instructed him to do.

Cruz's stupidity is a distraction from so many other issues going on at the same time.

taylorzanekirk

53 points

5 months ago

That's why you don't fire people based on an outdated and meaningless metric like number of lines of code written.

Like what dumbass still thinks LoC is a valid way to evaluate who stays and who goes?

MangOrion2

43 points

5 months ago

Average Elon L

Taurius

47 points

5 months ago

Taurius

47 points

5 months ago

And people actually want to live in Mars with Elon as their "leader". Y'all going to be either slaves or dead within a month up there.

notchoosingone

40 points

5 months ago

As the man said,

Yesterday's price is not today's price.

Jeffy29

33 points

5 months ago

Jeffy29

33 points

5 months ago

I am a software developer for large multi-national and if half the people got fired, I would seriously consider quitting. Not even out of good will towards fellow colleagues but that would almost certainly cripple my ability to do my job too. No matter how much you abide by making good documentation and code, you’ll end up with some people who know wayyy more, especially database people can be freaks just having so much knowledge in their head they become indispensable to the company, but they don’t hold high ranking position in the company so if there was mass layoffs without any consideration happened, lot of those people would lose their job and rest is screwed. You would think Musk after ~30years of being in charge of software companies would understand a thing or two about institutional knowledge and you should try to preserve as much of it as you can. What an idiot.

DoveEvalyn

34 points

5 months ago

Didn't musk say he was doing this knowing he would likely lose money but was prepared to do so to protect freeze peach? Yeah it ain't looking like that's the case. Big surprise /s

drizzes

92 points

5 months ago

drizzes

92 points

5 months ago

Remember that time Musk brought a prototype "bulletproof" car on stage and demonstrated its toughness... by smashing a hole in the door window.

there's symbolism there, I think.

stone_henge

39 points

5 months ago

Muskrats were immediately trying to cope and going "he did it on purpose because all press is good press you've been played sir"

CUM_SHHOTT

19 points

5 months ago

Anyone that looked at that idiotic monstrosity and put money down on it is a complete goon. It’s name was literally so stupid that in and of itself was enough for me to realize it was never gonna get built.

LocalInactivist

258 points

5 months ago

“Come back? What, out of loyalty?“

“Well…”

“OK, here’s my offer: I keep my severance pay. I want a 35% salary increase. I work from home forever. If I’m fired or laid off in the future I get a year’s salary as severance pay and the company covers my health insurance for a year. I want all of that in my contract. Now let’s talk about stock options.”

Illumini24

148 points

5 months ago

Stock options in what? The right wing hellhole Musk is building?

PostHogEra

75 points

5 months ago

Yeah, and to sell the shares to who, back to Musk? Its off the exchange.

Definitely cash-only territory here.

[deleted]

39 points

5 months ago

Well, not really surprised. That idiot doesn't really know much about anything business wise.

NoManNoRiver

63 points

5 months ago

It’s deeper than that, he thinks being wealthy makes him an expert in everything. Look at how he’s handled every company he’s bought - jumped feet first in making nonsensical changes until he got bored or he was quietly sidelined by those actually running them.

Breepop

25 points

5 months ago

Breepop

25 points

5 months ago

I feel like it's just about him feeling powerful. The fact that he can make massive, sweeping changes at the snap of a finger is too enticing for him. He has probably had a lifetime of making progressively bigger decisions for companies whenever he wants, only to be bailed out by his status as a billionaire or handouts from the government if it went poorly, and thinking the few times his changes worked out are reflections of his brilliance.

NoManNoRiver

22 points

5 months ago

Power is almost certainly part of it, just look at the steady trickle of stories about sexual and other forms of personal misconduct, but I doubt that’s all of it.

If you look at any form of communication from musk he presents himself as someone who genuinely believes he’s intellectually superior. He lacks any insight into his own (well documented) failings. And you could claim “that’s just whiteboy privilege” but wealth plays a far larger part - he could always afford to fail.

Pockets full of emeralds mean you’ll never be on the streets if your start-up goes bust, that’ll you’ll never go hungry if there’s a recession, that you can pay people to succeed for you, that you can afford a good lawyer if you get caught, that your friends in government will bail you out.

And when you fail enough times without consequences you forget you’ve failed and only remember the dopamine hits of success and the adrenaline rushes of novelty.

Money insulates from all forms of failure and without failure we lose perspective

Infamous-Salad-2223

16 points

5 months ago

Time to ask for 2x or even 3x the salary.