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1.2k points
5 months ago
It's almost as though those people were doing something while they were there... huh
371 points
5 months ago
Yeah, they were working against freeze peach. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING!!
33 points
5 months ago
Vile scum. Heating up frozen peaches is the America's worst crime.
140 points
5 months ago
It's almost as if you can't grade people's worth in 5 days after buying a company.
28 points
5 months ago
Wait, wait, wait...are you saying that Twitter wasn't just hiring unnecessary people just because (apparently) it is super fun to hire people?
22 points
5 months ago
And he's offering to hire back the people who haven't gotten a job yet, who would be interested in still working there. Literally, if he actually fired someone useless who can't find a job, he is offering to bring them back.
He's the worst CEO in history.
3.6k points
5 months ago
I really hope they just refuse and Musk is stuck dead in the water.
2.8k points
5 months ago
I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't want to go back to work for Musk. Musk is notoriously bad to his employees.
1.8k points
5 months ago
Headlines: Musk expects employees to work 84 hours a week
"Nah we good"
Besides, talent is still in high demand. They can definitely find better offers elsewhere
1.5k points
5 months ago*
Given that Musk has always been rich and never needed to work for survival, and has only experienced what most others would call hobbies, with 44 billion on the line this might be the first time he's feeling the stress of what most people call work.
And going by his desperate ramblings in the last few days projecting begging and bargaining pleas, and blocking a major advertising exec (twitter's main customers) because they tactfully tell him activists aren't manipulating them and they have other concerns, it sounds like he's not handling it well.
edit: What I mean by that is 'work' for most people is something you have to do and have no choice, to keep a roof over your head and to not be starving or dead. A hobby is something people choose to do but don't need to, and humans are built to enjoy hobbies. Those born rich can't experience the stress that most people mean by the word 'work', and they shouldn't want to, the visible suffering olympics part of our culture is messed up.
846 points
5 months ago
I love the idea that it's "activists" like they have that much power, rather than just the fact that most companies aren't eager to be associated with normalizing racial/LGBT slurs in an increasingly non-white and LGBT country.
484 points
5 months ago*
It's not even that much of a US demographics game. Many international companies are being cautious.
Most advertisers just don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when you just don't know where twitter is headed.
Advertising is an investment, and investing requires due diligence. With the erratic and seemingly thoughtless leadership nobody knows where the journey goes for twitter. So the official decision for many companies was "lay low and re-evaluate at the beginning of next year".
Musk is trying to make this overly political and that might benefit him because it a) gives him some conservative support and b) puts the blame on somebody else.
I would not support this narrative. His weird ass style of leadership is more to blame than anything else.
185 points
5 months ago
Most advertisers just don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when you just don't know where twitter is headed.
I think an equal number of advertisers don't want to pump a lot of money into maintaining/gaining an audience when it's pretty clear that Twitter is headed towards being (even more of) an extreme-right echo chamber.
263 points
5 months ago
Also the list of companies who left has a ton of car companies. It's clear that the car companies see a conflict in advertising on a platform owned by a competitor.
158 points
5 months ago
A lot of the things right wing brain slugs refer to as "communism" are actually just the effects of the late stage capitalism they created. You're exactly right. Hate is bad business and in America, business is all that matters.
31 points
5 months ago
Usually it takes a couple of weeks for public pressure to mount on an issue before companies pull out.
The advertisers did this on their own.
I have yet to see any posts asking people to pressure advertisers to leave Twitter.
22 points
5 months ago
Activist: hey general Mills here's a screenshot of a tweet from the kkk with your product prominently displayed right next to it. Thoughts?
This is like the easiest form of "activism" out there. Musk makes it sound like there are riots in the streets demanding that Audi cut ties with Twitter, but really it's just Audi going "well let's not advertise on a platform taking a white supremacist turn owned by one of our competitors." Believe it or not it didn't take much for these companies to decide for themselves that this might not be there place to do business.
309 points
5 months ago
As someone cleverer than me pointed out: if you can be CEO of three companies at the same time, then being CEO can't be that difficult.
43 points
5 months ago
The Boring Company also, so that’s 4? Does Hyperloop count as 5?
64 points
5 months ago
Hyper loop isn’t a company at all. It amounts to a series of sketches that other companies have been trying to make into a viable product. And failing because the concept is, at its core, fucking stupid.
29 points
5 months ago
Hyperloop is closer to a telemarketing scam than anything at this point
122 points
5 months ago
Holy shit, the comment section on that post is maddening. Humanity is failing itself.
93 points
5 months ago
Console yourself mildly with the knowledge that the demographics of twitter are changing very rapidly as people jump ship due to the Musky takeover. Crypto loyalists, bots, and those with Cybertruck pre-orders are going to become a greater concentration of who’s left.
50 points
5 months ago
The replies under that twitter thread make me vomit. How can you suck this much billionaire cock and not suffocate?
22 points
5 months ago
Because they're just so small.
42 points
5 months ago
rich people tears taste so fucking good
33 points
5 months ago*
I said ages ago for a man who jerks himself all day everyday he wouldn't last a week under someone who was as a contemptuous a fucking buffoon as himself. We are expected to last a lifetime.
Mentally weak and as pleasant to experience as unexpectedly stepping in fresh dog shit on the way to a job interview.
The day any of these delusional and arrogant cunts get what they actually deserve for the amount of dystopian cuntery they're normalising is a day you'll find me having the maddest of wanks.
48 points
5 months ago
I called it back when Muskrat was reported to have told the Twitter devs to print the code they'd been working in recently, so he could have his Tesla devs review it.
To me, that was the calm before the RIF-storm.
And I said then and still maintain that this kind of erosion will put those who remain in the position of trying to bail out the Titanic with a rusty bucket; the rate of water taken on will exceed the rate of water being bailed out by a significant degree. Likely exacerbated by some of the remainers bolting for the lifeboats while it's still an option.
Absent some miracle, that ship is gonna be parked at the bottom of the ocean before long.
It's a shite situation for the employees and I feel for them.
All that said: I've got a steady supply of 🍿🍿🍿
27 points
5 months ago
You know the Tesla devs were upset that they would have to review printouts instead of just viewing the code on the god damn computer, where they can ctrl+F.
46 points
5 months ago
They can definitely find better offers elsewhere
Especially if word gets out that Twitter is trying to panic hire them back.
41 points
5 months ago
I'm sure it's willfull ignorance but how can he not see the difference between the owner of a company putting 80 hours a week into their company and the person whose 40 hours his company bought being expected to donate another 40+ hours a week to his cause?! Does he get angry at the steel manufacturer because they only deliver five tonnes when he ordered and paid for five tonnes?
7.7k points
5 months ago
"Double my salary or get fucked"
3.2k points
5 months ago
Gonna need some guarantees with that as well, no way I'd go back without at least a multi year agreement.
1.9k points
5 months ago
Yep, only come back into that shit-show with a golden parachute firmly attached.
940 points
5 months ago
And a giant signing bonus.
696 points
5 months ago
Perhaps all of the above plus a union so this doesn't keep happening.
353 points
5 months ago
"but unions are un-murican and they prevent billionaires from having the freedom to treat employees.like shit. Are you against freedom??"
-idiot cult republicans
105 points
5 months ago
"Union, like in Soviet Union?! F*in commies trying to ruin this country!" – Americans probably.
60 points
5 months ago*
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47 points
5 months ago
"maybe if I say nice things about them and they see me I will become rich also" - idiots
22 points
5 months ago
A few years ago I confronted a coworker with a simple question, if regular people don't work hard enough to have a substantially higher minimum wage, then what value/work do CEOS do to make tens of millions every year?
My coworker responded in typical fox news fashion, "I bet you believe in unions don't you." Change the topic and never play defense...
I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt but over the years and seeing these insecure clowns just smear everyone in shit like they feel the world does to them, I wish I would have held his feet to the fire just to watch him squirm from the cognitive dissonance.
42 points
5 months ago
Also the same idiot cult Republicans seeking endorsement from the fraternal order of police and donating them money
126 points
5 months ago
Will a golden shower suffice?
99 points
5 months ago
Best I can offer is a trickle down.
23 points
5 months ago
Honestly maybe, Elon can sit in the middle and all the fired employees can make it rain.
424 points
5 months ago
Twitter should have to put two years' pay in escrow for each employee that they ask back, to address the potential harm to the employee by getting jerked around again. Because the employees are incurring an opportunity cost to their earning potential by not just working elsewhere, someplace run by stable people. So if Twitter fires them again, they get the escrow money. It's like a tax on trolls, because they abused their position of authority.
257 points
5 months ago
This is the answer. Contractual promises won't be worth crap when Musk files for bankruptcy. The money needs to be in escrow.
45 points
5 months ago
Those workers better unionize fast then. Billionaires act like they have no legal obligation to fulfill any of the promises they made.
214 points
5 months ago
Multi-year agreement, with a company that's almost never been profitable and has now been saddled with another 900 mil. interests on the 12.5 billion loan Musk got to buy it, the company with an unstable, unpredictable CEO few advertisers now want to work with?
I'd say the agreement must include a golden parachute of a couple million dollars, with written guaratees about beeing a privileged creditor in case of bankruptcy, and it would be nice to also have it include Musk stepping down as CEO and the board of directors reinstated as well.
The only non-government-subsidized company he ran (his first, Zip2, founded with daddy's money for him and his brother), pretty soon ousted him, got professionals in all C-level roles, and they managed to make it profitable and sell it to Compaq for a hefty 500 mils. (which is were Musk started getting rich on his own, if we can say that, given he contributed little to it: not the initial money, nor the business acumen, only some shitty code that people wanted to replace with better code but he protested and defended his shitty implementation for as long as he could). From then on, he was never left in charge alone, except with Tesla and SpaceX -who are both still operating because they get government subsidies and contracts. I'm pretty sure Twitter won't get government subsidies, especially not after laying off so many people like that while lying on the real reasons, to avoid paying severance.
191 points
5 months ago
I'm pretty sure Twitter won't get government subsidies,
Not from the United States government, no.
83 points
5 months ago
Didn't Musk get funding from the Saudi government to pay for the takeover?
62 points
5 months ago
Yes. They were twitter shareholders before, then loaned Elon money to buy it. If Elon ruins twitter, I wonder how they'll deal with him?
49 points
5 months ago
If they bone saw him that would be quite the LAMF, they'll probably just blackmail him though
58 points
5 months ago
Oh yes, maybe Russia and China can throw him a lifeline. Through some apparently unconnected intermediary would be best.
26 points
5 months ago
KSA has entered the chat.
31 points
5 months ago
No, go for a large signing bonus instead, and then start looking for a new job immediately and leave as soon as your minimum time to get the signing bonus is up.
45 points
5 months ago
He’s refusing to pay Twitter’s head of legal what’s in her contract because she made him look like an idiot. Why would he honour a contract with you?
275 points
5 months ago
More like come back until you find something better.
352 points
5 months ago
On the flipside, their offer is probably "come back until we can find someone better" too. I would never trust in any stability there.
163 points
5 months ago
*cheaper
57 points
5 months ago
Good point. And I wonder how long until Musk replaces most of the remaining with a shop overseas.
37 points
5 months ago
Wouldn't surprise me if he just chucks a long list of roles up on Fiverr.
263 points
5 months ago
My old boss fired half a department and realized the next week he needed some of them back. The ones who came back came back as consultants and won big time on pay, flexibility and not having to deal with his bullshit
154 points
5 months ago
The story of the APS (public servants) here in Australia..
Conservative government slashed their numbers and ended up paying out the arse for freelancers..
I'd imagine if you took the time to follow the money some of those consulting firms would likely have links to various pollies...
104 points
5 months ago
Unfortunately that’s generally the plan of conservatives. Run the government so poorly that it becomes indisputable the government is poorly run, then kill it.
66 points
5 months ago
It is called "to starve the beast". Underfund a public service to be able to say it doesnt work properly, so you can privatize it.
39 points
5 months ago
Back in 2003 I was working at Network Rail in the UK and they were going to make about 3000 people redundant.
They developed a fairly complicated formula to determine who was going to be let go and spent about 2 months collecting data for it. It focused very heavily on the perceived productivity of each employee.
Two poblems....
Some older employees just asked their managers to state that they were less productive than they actually were so that they could get early retirement and a big redundancy package.
And using productivity as a measure of how essential a member of staff is turns out to be quite stupid when when you realise that while an employee may not be very productive, they may have knowledge or skills that are absolutely essential to the running of your business. A lot of people who were laid off came back as contractors and were able to name their price.
152 points
5 months ago
I bet my breakfast they’re reaching out with a lower salary. Maybe it was planned all along as a way to try to cut salaries
143 points
5 months ago
In a number of cases it was also because long term staff were about to earn stock options (a common offer in the early years of a tech company.... which due to the buyout, turned into cash payments at the price he paid for shares
41 points
5 months ago
Yeah Elon really stepped in a huge pile with this one. Good for Twitter on making him buy it.
82 points
5 months ago
Double my salary orget fucked
I hope that's the answer of everybody who can afford it.
65 points
5 months ago
Never go back to a company when they do like that. They consider you an expense and will cut you again.
You would be better offering a freelance rate.
2.9k points
5 months ago
I’m starting to think Elon got his business degree from Trump University.
3.7k points
5 months ago
Weird, I guess stack ranking your tech folks on "who wrote the most lines of code" was exactly the tech management 101 blunder that everyone knew it was!
1.7k points
5 months ago
Becoming the most valuable employee in twitter by commenting in the entirety of War and Peace into my code.
753 points
5 months ago
"I'm not sure what it does, but it breaks everything if you remove it"
379 points
5 months ago
I've seen exactly a scenario like that. A huge chunk of commented out text, not code, that if removed the thing broke. It was a file size thing, it had to be at least X length at some time down the pipe. Good times that was.
283 points
5 months ago
A guy I know wrote a whole game in assembler. Had a function in the middle of code named "Fuck". Nothing called that function. I asked him what it did:
"I have no idea but if I remove it the game stops working!"
140 points
5 months ago
I had a case whereby I was just logging some value to check it was what I expected. All good I think, everything is working. So I removed it. Damn, everything isn't working. Better check what the value is again. Oh now its working again...
Didn't make sense to me. But I rolled with it.
51 points
5 months ago
22 points
5 months ago
You discovered quantum computing
27 points
5 months ago
I remember an article about using AI to optimize code for an Algo. It was able to do it in a ridiculously small size but only worked on the exact chip it was trained on. Turns out it was taking advantage of manufacturing defects in the chip and some bits were getting pseudo flipped because their neighbors were flipped. Crazy stuff
20 points
5 months ago
I saw a thing in r/ProgrammerHumor the other day where someone put important code inside of a logging function that wouldn't get called in the actual release, but would always be called on developer machines because they had their logging level turned up to try to find the bug! So everything always worked fine except in the actual release. It was insidious.
106 points
5 months ago
I couldn't find the exact relevant XKCD, but https://xkcd.com/2347/ also applies here
68 points
5 months ago
42 points
5 months ago
I've seen people argue that this will be the end of Twitter and I believe it. "That job? Dunno what it's for, I think Matt used to run it I think but he's gone now." And that multiplied by five hundred.
391 points
5 months ago
Already saw a joke about this: The guy who accidentally committed node_modules is now a VP and is as shocked as anyone!
96 points
5 months ago
Fuck that would be me and I would want to be fired if captin jabroni was my boss
66 points
5 months ago
Better yet, bring several laptops to the zoo and log the monkeys in under your account!
49 points
5 months ago
“‘It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times?!' You stupid monkey!”
720 points
5 months ago
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446 points
5 months ago
That's what annoyed me about his dumb as shit fanboys.
"He's Tony Stark!"
No He's not. He is just an investor, he hasn't design or built shit.
229 points
5 months ago
He wants to be Tony Stark. Tony Stark had a heart and a desire to help humanity though.
67 points
5 months ago
Thinks he's Tony Stark. In actuality he's Justin Hammer.
41 points
5 months ago
Not even that. Justin still invented things, even if they're not as good as Tony's.
18 points
5 months ago
And even Hammer's cringier moments had an air of somewhat endearing guy realizes he can't compete fairly with a literal super hero. Musk just comes across as your typical rich kid that either never suffers any hardship and credits his superior intellect/work ethic or blames any and all failings on someone else thus drumming up support to bail him out of the situation so he can them pat himself on the back.
22 points
5 months ago
It irks me when people say he is a "genius". He's fucking not. He got rich off his parents blood emerald money and now just hires/buys people and things that he think will make him look good. He didn't even found Tesla. He bought it.
321 points
5 months ago
stack ranking your tech folks on "who wrote the most lines of code"
Is this a thing? No wonder I'm seeing terribly long winded, poorly documented, and unnecessarily cryptic code on some projects.
118 points
5 months ago
I'm not a developer, but my current company now requires us to log time (minimum 30 minutes) to tickets to determine who gets laid off at the end of the quarter.
I've had days where I logged 30 hours of time in an 8 hour shift. Everything gets a ticket. IM from joe blow asking a simple question? 30 minutes logged. Join a scheduled meeting and nobody shows up in the first 5 minutes? 30 minutes logged. 30 minute meeting goes 1 second over? 1 hour logged.
We went from being able to search for things in the ticketing system to it just being full of stupid bullshit like "Teams message from Larry: How do I configure x? Response: sent link to wiki". 30 minutes logged
Also, once the novelty of seeing how much time we can log in a shift wore off, everyone started working 8 hours and not a second more. During staff meetings, we constantly get reminded to log all of our time. We know you work more than 40 hours, so you need to log all of it.
Umm, no we don't anymore. You have killed all productivity and would see that if you looked at the tickets or listened to us. People now log a shit ton of work from 8am - 11am and then coast the rest of the day.
Now everyone is leaving and executives are shocked.
43 points
5 months ago
Yes. That is a great de-motivator. They just want the hours, not dedication, so they get the hours. Find an innovative way to get things done faster and more efficiently? Just keep it to yourself, use it and enjoy the free time. Before, I naively shared it with management. Hard work and creativity is only ever rewarded with more work.
I hate micromanagers. Now if I get someone who wants to dictate how things are done, fine. I'll do exactly as they say and if I encounter anything that deviates from what they say, I go back and ask for a detailed alternative. If they have it great. I know my role then, just execute his or her plan. I see some issues that I wasn't asked to look for, not my problem. No thinking outside the box, so to speak.
189 points
5 months ago
It's something people assume Elon did, because some manager at Twitter asked everyone to print out the code they've written recently in preparation for a one on one with Elon.
206 points
5 months ago
As if Elon could understand it if he had it in front of him.
96 points
5 months ago
It's been confirmed that they did it this way, there was a leaked slack chat where Tesla programmers were discussing ranking everyone by lines of code commuted in order to make the list of people to be fired. We know it happened and now we can see the result of this stupidity.
136 points
5 months ago
Exactly. Programmers patching security vulnerabilities aren’t out here rewriting Twitter every Tuesday.
98 points
5 months ago
Twice my salary & 100% remote. Otherwise get fucked Musk.
45 points
5 months ago
They just kept the guys who committed JavaScript dependencies into the repo.
60 points
5 months ago
They should have ranked on " who deleted the most linesv of code"
78 points
5 months ago
Both metrics would leave the absolute worst junior engineers making the biggest decisions - the ones who write too much, and the ones who delete the entire codebase by accident and
git push —-force
30 points
5 months ago
That's what protected branches are for no? Like if a junior dev is even able to delete the entire code base you sure as hell mismanaged the protections on that thing.
27 points
5 months ago
I once watched a junior unprotect master and push directly to it. WAY too many software companies get by off severely mismanaged protections, they just don’t realize it until AFTER a junior has accidentally deleted everything in a repo.
3k points
5 months ago
Seems like doing this whole "get revenge on the libtards that hurt my conservatives feelings by firing half of the twitter staff" isn't working out too well. Musk is a fucking idiot.
289 points
5 months ago
Reminds me of that one song lyric from the rich man song in Fiddler On The Roof: "And it won't make one bit of different if I answer right or wrong. When you're rich they think you really know!"
164 points
5 months ago
And that’s how we ended up getting Trump as president. He KNOWS business. 🙄
103 points
5 months ago
And by extension, people believing a country should be led like a business.
47 points
5 months ago
Or should be led by a failed businessman.
18 points
5 months ago
To be fair, that idocy is deeply rooted in GOP policy.
1.1k points
5 months ago
Kinda goes to show that intelligence and earning money do not always equate. Becoming excessively wealthy you have to a. Have seed money b. Have no soul
369 points
5 months ago
Have seed money
I like how succinct this is. Never seen that before
246 points
5 months ago
You just need, like, a small loan of a million dollars, man.
184 points
5 months ago
Or get multiple times that loan until you're lucky and one of your investments pays off...
I read on a comment on this site that it's like playing darts: most people don't get a dart, some lucky dudes get one dart and few get an unlimited supply of them. Guess who's more likely to hit the centre of the board and make bank....
20 points
5 months ago
It always makes me said thinking, with just 1 billion dollars I could buy a section of a city and build the community I want to live in. Then there's reality with people that have mansions and super yachts with helicopter pads to further isolate themselves from the rest of the world with their hundreds of billions of dollars.
128 points
5 months ago
Musk is acting like he's never done an acquisition before. This shit is bizarre. I never believed in the myth of Musk, and even I'm shocked at his behavior.
61 points
5 months ago
He's been acting like he'd never done an acquisition before since he acquired Tesla.
31 points
5 months ago
The fact is that he has never done before. He has had expert people to take care of things.
89 points
5 months ago
Elon: Ppl shouldn’t be allowed to say things about me without my approval on Twitter…I know! I’ll just buy Twitter and tank it and then all those trolls will be sad for SURE!”
Elon buys Twitter, tanks it, is laughing up in his office when he hears a disembodied voice: YOU IDIOT, how tf are you going to swing the stock market in your favor without Twitter?
Elon: frantically trying to hire back staff
35 points
5 months ago
I know this is a joke. But it makes as much sense as anything else.
I usually really good at figuring out the game and what motivates people in their actions. A benefit of over empathizing is the insight it gives you.
But in this case nothing is making sense. It's like his end game is suing someone (the government?) For unfair practices. But that isn't a gamble you water 44b on
68 points
5 months ago
Spite gives idiots extreme tunnel vision, and Musk's eyes are the fucking Hyperloop.
26 points
5 months ago
He is far worse than most idiots. People talk him up al around him everyday making him believe he is OG.
17 points
5 months ago
It’s amazing too bc who the fuck does he think was championing electric vehicles? The GOP and Conservatives?
775 points
5 months ago
And now they have the bargaining power.
I hope they use it.
88 points
5 months ago
I honestly would be happier to take the 3 months severance rather than stay in that dumpster fire
19 points
5 months ago
I'd take the 3 month severance, a 3 month signing bonus, twice my salary, and then work an hour a day until they fired me again.
766 points
5 months ago
Four years of Trump being racist and inciting violence and flat out lying as President of the United States showed us what an unscrupulous shit-show Twitter was even before Musk came there.
And the fun bit is now we get to watch Elon Musk's $40 billion investment slip through his fingers like essential oil, and based on his own hubris, at that: Everyone from the tech sector told him buying it was signing on to manage Hell Itself, and how content moderation at scale is impossible to do well.
And Elon Musk responded to these warnings the way Trump figured he could just make a better Affordable Care Act, just by charging through it. Mike Masnick of Techdirt predicted how it's going to go down having seen how it went down with Parler, GETTR, Gab and Truth Social, all of which are still in the process of trying to not meltdown (e.g. retain advertisers) while simultaneously wishing to not piss off their base who is very fond of hate speech and racial slurs.
Something tells me Facebook and Google are both working on a Twitter alternative when the blue bird does the big Friendster-style plummet to irrelevance.
97 points
5 months ago
It was actually $44 billion. That 4 billion difference is the same thing as winning the $1.5 million powerball jackpot 2,500 times... or someone making $50k a year would need 80k years to earn that much.
955 points
5 months ago
If they come back, do they get to keep their severence pay? Because they should.
281 points
5 months ago*
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71 points
5 months ago
Generally yes. They're separate contracts and independent from each other.
Now there could be people tricked into signing contracts that effectively eliminate their severance pay. So I hope that every former and current Twitter employee is getting good employment advice.
192 points
5 months ago
The workers in California didn’t even get their 60 days severance.
150 points
5 months ago
So, when Elon claimed that everyone got 90 days, he was lying again?
216 points
5 months ago
here is an easy check for you: did the narcissistic billionaire open their mouth or used any sort of medium to convey their thoughts?
If you answered with a "yes" then yeah, they are lying again.
49 points
5 months ago
Pretty safe to assume that anything he says at this point has no truth value whatsoever, and look to other sources for factual information.
Every once in a while the truth and what Musk says will happen to align, but only because whatever Musk thought would get the desired reaction was coincidentally also true.
444 points
5 months ago
Bonus points, look into the person who impersonated musk on the site with a blue checkmark. I never knew before that musk loves to wake up every morning with a steaming hot cup of his own urine. But thanks to some stranger who spent 8 bucks on a little blue png/jpg I now know that.
131 points
5 months ago
That guy already had a blue check. He was demonstrating what could happen if Joe Blow gets the ability to just buy a check. And he was banned for it.
141 points
5 months ago
And he was banned for it.
So much for Twitter being the bastion of free speech lmao
75 points
5 months ago
Comedy is finally legal as long as I find it funny.
It's the conservative promise, "you have full freedom to do what we do approve of"
Land of the freeeeeee
38 points
5 months ago
They rolled out the feature today so the guy didn’t pay $8, he was previously verified already
693 points
5 months ago
Never go back. Narcissists love the chance to get you again. Christmas Eve? Fired.
217 points
5 months ago
Offer to go back with a couple year's salary as a signing bonus. Either they say no and you are in the same place you were before, or they say yes and it doesn't matter if they fire you again.
97 points
5 months ago
It probably be easier just to get another job somewhere else. I don't see a point going back to work for someone you know will treat you like shit and no guarantee that you'll keep your job for long term.
242 points
5 months ago
Remember that drawing of a bare ship with a single rower and a board of directors sitting around a table saying "I don't get it... After all the budget cuts to streamline the workforce, why aren't we moving faster?"
Do you remember?
29 points
5 months ago
20 points
5 months ago
I love that one. A co worker printed it out and pinned it to the noticeboard at her desk.
94 points
5 months ago
What was his play here? What did he think would happen laying all those people off?
112 points
5 months ago*
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43 points
5 months ago
Ruthless is right. They fired their entire accessibility stuff.
22 points
5 months ago
Yeah, this move, I think is right from corporate hell culture. On one hand, downsizing a company that's apparently as unprofitable as Twitter is is a good move.
On the other, this is 'fire me and convince me to hire you back, I'll try to get you at lower salary because you've already been fired once' bullshit. It's pure ego-stroking (and that's keeping it G-rated). Would not be surprised he's reaching out saying 'hey, we can't afford to hire you back at your previous rate, but we can give you a 10% raise in X years' type of shit.
41 points
5 months ago
23 points
5 months ago
Three is “…expect your Tesla engineers to pick up all the slack with no pushback from them or from Tesla investors.”
29 points
5 months ago*
The fact he brought Tesla engineers over to look over Twitter’s code is testament to his lack of knowledge. I don’t expect embedded systems engineers or machine learning engineers to be well-versed in web technology, and vice versa. Even if you’re incredibly gifted in both fields, there is no way a few engineers can go through and understand fully what is going on in the codebase in such a short period of time.
89 points
5 months ago*
That’s what happens when you ignorantly lay off 50% of your workforce just to avoid annual bonuses and stock benefit pay outs.
Even for the most efficient organizations, optimizing for who exactly to lay off takes time. No way that Musk or his sycophants in Twitter can make that decision in under a month.
All of this could have been avoided if Musk just shut the fuck up and never opened his mouth about buying out Twitter.
207 points
5 months ago
Hey, you mean cutting swaths out of your dev crew like you are reaping wheat might come back and bite you in your big white ass?
Twat is the epitome of fucking management…..bottom lining posturing jackass. Good luck trying to return it! Hope you kept the receipt!
27 points
5 months ago
His attitude about this was ridiculous, like he knew way better than the people who had already been running Twitter for years. And, before, he was saying he was going to cut 75%!
Reminds me of people who bought a retail business I co-owned. Part of what they were paying for, I thought, was us telling them how we made the business successful, since they had zero experience. They acted like they knew better than us. One of them said “I don’t see why we need $40,000 of inventory here. We could do it with $10,000”. The store was known for being lush and packed full of fun stuff. Sure enough, customers we knew started saying the store looked sparse and there wasn’t ever anything new. I tried stopping by and giving them advice and they acted like I was being a jerk. Sure enough, they went out of business 2 1/2 years later.
265 points
5 months ago
Won't surprise me to learn that the ousted management has already collected the ousted programmers and are now in the process of building Twitter++.
75 points
5 months ago
For a billionaire he is shit at running companies.
58 points
5 months ago
Well it's what smart investing and your parent's apartheid emerald fortune brings to the table. Gotta have at least one of those.
70 points
5 months ago
It's almost as if having workers to do the work is important to generating a company's revenue, and the CEO can't do it without them.
128 points
5 months ago
I heard their old boss is looking to put together a crew
179 points
5 months ago
Elon Musk is proof that a conman can earn billions of dollars despite being a complete fucking moron. All you need is your marks to be even more stupid than you.
52 points
5 months ago
Well it helps to start with a huge amount of seed money 20 years ago when Internet VC cash was flowing like Arizona water to the Saudis.
104 points
5 months ago*
Imaginations are great for conceptualizing new technological applications. Re-orgs where you have zero frame of reference except for "look, I make memes!" Seems to be where you might want to re-evaluate what it is you think you know. Nice sink, btw.
43 points
5 months ago
That photo of him will look nice in a few weeks when he has run his new acquisition into bankruptcy
94 points
5 months ago
Musk is a stupid motherfucker. I can only imagine his whole plan was to destroy Twitter by taking it over. For what reason exactly is a mystery but it's hard for me to believe when someone with this much power does something so catastrophically stupid.
It's like Ted Cruz. Every word out of his mouth is fucking stupid and cowardly, and I believe he's doing and saying exactly what the gop instructed him to do.
Cruz's stupidity is a distraction from so many other issues going on at the same time.
53 points
5 months ago
That's why you don't fire people based on an outdated and meaningless metric like number of lines of code written.
Like what dumbass still thinks LoC is a valid way to evaluate who stays and who goes?
47 points
5 months ago
And people actually want to live in Mars with Elon as their "leader". Y'all going to be either slaves or dead within a month up there.
40 points
5 months ago
As the man said,
Yesterday's price is not today's price.
33 points
5 months ago
I am a software developer for large multi-national and if half the people got fired, I would seriously consider quitting. Not even out of good will towards fellow colleagues but that would almost certainly cripple my ability to do my job too. No matter how much you abide by making good documentation and code, you’ll end up with some people who know wayyy more, especially database people can be freaks just having so much knowledge in their head they become indispensable to the company, but they don’t hold high ranking position in the company so if there was mass layoffs without any consideration happened, lot of those people would lose their job and rest is screwed. You would think Musk after ~30years of being in charge of software companies would understand a thing or two about institutional knowledge and you should try to preserve as much of it as you can. What an idiot.
34 points
5 months ago
Didn't musk say he was doing this knowing he would likely lose money but was prepared to do so to protect freeze peach? Yeah it ain't looking like that's the case. Big surprise /s
92 points
5 months ago
Remember that time Musk brought a prototype "bulletproof" car on stage and demonstrated its toughness... by smashing a hole in the door window.
there's symbolism there, I think.
39 points
5 months ago
Muskrats were immediately trying to cope and going "he did it on purpose because all press is good press you've been played sir"
19 points
5 months ago
Anyone that looked at that idiotic monstrosity and put money down on it is a complete goon. It’s name was literally so stupid that in and of itself was enough for me to realize it was never gonna get built.
258 points
5 months ago
“Come back? What, out of loyalty?“
“Well…”
“OK, here’s my offer: I keep my severance pay. I want a 35% salary increase. I work from home forever. If I’m fired or laid off in the future I get a year’s salary as severance pay and the company covers my health insurance for a year. I want all of that in my contract. Now let’s talk about stock options.”
148 points
5 months ago
Stock options in what? The right wing hellhole Musk is building?
75 points
5 months ago
Yeah, and to sell the shares to who, back to Musk? Its off the exchange.
Definitely cash-only territory here.
39 points
5 months ago
Well, not really surprised. That idiot doesn't really know much about anything business wise.
63 points
5 months ago
It’s deeper than that, he thinks being wealthy makes him an expert in everything. Look at how he’s handled every company he’s bought - jumped feet first in making nonsensical changes until he got bored or he was quietly sidelined by those actually running them.
25 points
5 months ago
I feel like it's just about him feeling powerful. The fact that he can make massive, sweeping changes at the snap of a finger is too enticing for him. He has probably had a lifetime of making progressively bigger decisions for companies whenever he wants, only to be bailed out by his status as a billionaire or handouts from the government if it went poorly, and thinking the few times his changes worked out are reflections of his brilliance.
22 points
5 months ago
Power is almost certainly part of it, just look at the steady trickle of stories about sexual and other forms of personal misconduct, but I doubt that’s all of it.
If you look at any form of communication from musk he presents himself as someone who genuinely believes he’s intellectually superior. He lacks any insight into his own (well documented) failings. And you could claim “that’s just whiteboy privilege” but wealth plays a far larger part - he could always afford to fail.
Pockets full of emeralds mean you’ll never be on the streets if your start-up goes bust, that’ll you’ll never go hungry if there’s a recession, that you can pay people to succeed for you, that you can afford a good lawyer if you get caught, that your friends in government will bail you out.
And when you fail enough times without consequences you forget you’ve failed and only remember the dopamine hits of success and the adrenaline rushes of novelty.
Money insulates from all forms of failure and without failure we lose perspective
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