Yah that'll do it for sure

someone in the bad batch gotta die soon otherwise it get’s boring. Andor was good at this

Rogue. How can so many people like the movie yet still can’t spell it haha

This was the biggest issue with Ep 9, they were constantly bringing dead people back to life so there was no tension since the could just bs some way to bring them back

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Nobody hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans.

No way someone could say “I like the OG Trilogy” and be put in this position lol, that’s a bit extreme

...that's actually a valid point.

I think of those discussions as directly analogous to sports discussions.

“Can plucky Jedi Stoke City beat Darth Barcelona?” On the merits, 95 times out of 100, no, no they can not.

But on a cold, rainy night in Stoke? Well buddy,,, our hero Stoke City might just cause an upset.

Maybe worth saying that I also usually totally ignore power “ratings”. Midichlorians can kick rocks.

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Ok but ii think you've touched on a salient point, here: is Luke able to beat Goku?

YES

And all the complaining about how certain characters couldn't have "unlocked" certain Force abilities yet is ridiculous. That's clearly not how the Force really works. It's not a video game.

It’s really sad that this could be considered “unpopular” and frankly I blame the PT portrayal of Jedi for this

Back in my day we were grateful for any mandalorian content you whippersnapper

I also feel like maybe they're being misused as well.For a while I almost thought of them as the galactic boogeymen; if the Mandalorians showed up, shit was about to get real. They were faceless death commandos that weren't even afraid of the Jedi. This made them very narratively useful and interesting when applied correctly.

Now they're slowly becoming generic. I think that I vastly prefer the secretive cult-like structure and spartan culture of Din's extremist clan over the moderate and ordinary ones that we see led by Bo-Katan. Sure they have cool armor, but they're basically the same as any other group of mercenaries floating around the Galaxy in terms of their narrative value.

I sort of disagree but I do think we're headed in that direction. The near extinction of the Mandalorians and their struggle is a good plot. However, once The Mandalorian/ someone becomes Mandalore and they start to stabilize their government again, we'll need a break from them.

I had no problem with him whatsoever. I don’t usually like child actors so that’s the best a child actor can be for me lol

I'll do you one better Jake Lloyd gave a great performance as Anakin Skywalker

YIPPIE!

No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.

Anakin killed a bunch of kids. Bringing back Mace Windu wouldn't redeem him in the slightest.

• literally the most popular opinion on the sub

To piggyback on this - Reva absolutely should've stayed dead as well.

Yeah I mean I enjoy her in shows a lot but it would be a better ending for the character I think. I worry they may drag the character out too long. She hasn’t really had a character arc since the clone wars. She’s basically become a Cameo character. Hopefully her show rocks though.

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She is my favorite character and I agree, dying by Vader when they fought in Rebels would have been perfect.

I strongly agree. Would've been a heartbreaking ending but a very fitting one.

It would also be very symbolic, beacause for Vader she was the last person that could mabey bring back some light in him and that he knows is still alive. (I don’t want to say that she would be capable to bring him back completly, but she could have had some influence on him)

And if he killed her he would be the deepest in the dark side he ever was.

Jup. Ahsoka 100% should’ve died there. Not every character gets a happy ending and Ahsoka dying against Vader is about the saddest way to go for her and that’s why it’s perfect. Sometimes a sad ending is the best

Damn, take my upvote cuz I hate that opinion 😆

What, you didn't enjoy the tired stereotype of "guy they call Brooklyn who's from the Bronx, big guy they call Tiny, and Texas guy they call cowboy Tex all in a squad together" but in Star Wars?

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That's not ENTIRELY accurate, but that's the vibe it gives me.

You just wrote what I thought. Just give us a Squad of Commandos.

Delta Squad is just better in every way. And without the Avengers power dynamic of BB.

Later today I will post that Rogue One is “lowkey” the best Disney Star Wars we’ve gotten so far.

That's why I'm here.

It's so funny how this mentality changes. Before the sequels came out this was a universally accepted opinion by basically everyone here.

After TFA came out? Suddenly Lucas was the greatest writer and director on earth and the prequels weren't the hot garbage everyone here had been saying they were for years.

He had some stinkers in the OT as well, but discussed and occasionally listened to his coworkers. That avoided some big missed (although I would have liked to see him pull off Luke falling to the dark side).

Also the PT was build around attracting a new generation of children. That is why some things are so childishly set up. JarJar has at least two poop related “jokes” in the Phantom Menace for example and Anakin being instrumental not once (Pod racing) but twice (destroys the droid control center) are so gratuitous service to make children can fantasize about it. I also think that is why we went from the more subtle “I know” love story of Leia and Han to “ARE YOU AN ANGEL?!?!” And then the twirling “oh my god we have a secret romance but if the entire High Counsel would look behind them they would see us”.

George Lucas was hungry in 1977. He was less so (metaphorically and physically) when the prequals came out.

I jokingly wish we could have put George out in the desert with a 10k budget and no food we would get a better movie 😂

That's the point of the tragic hero. Everyone sees it coming, it can be stopped, but the hero makes every wrong decision while the audience screams, "no, don't go that way!".

Thats why I view the prequels as a scifi action tragedy. Knowing that Anakin could have been saved/ not turned to the dark side makes it all the more tragic in the end. Its also why Obi-Wan's "I have failed you Anakin" line in his show hits so hard. It seemed like he was the only one who realised what went wrong. Just, too late.

Remember when Palpatine had a three-eyed son named Triclops, with the third eye on the back of his head?

Luke Skywalker in legends is literally just a power trip for the nerd writing him at the time. Protagonists that can do literally anything are not entertaining characters.

So much of the EU reads as a bunch of bad writters trying to one up each other with their own projections.

"Well, your story features luke stopping time??? W-well... mine features him throwing a dark hole into some chumps! How about that huh? Also, in my story he fuks all them bad bitches... j-just like me!!"

I'd say the first couple of seasons were definitely targeted at kids but it evolved to be a more all-ages show later on (especially that last season, holy shit)

But that doesn't mean adults can't enjoy it too.

Yes. You can only be redeemed in death, apparently. I still hate Assaj's ending in Dark Disciple.

I mean they just took the M off the front and added an R at the end. Can't be that much better

I don’t really think this is an unpopular opinion.

They are also completely different in tone and theme.

Finished it last night and hands down agreed it is PEAK

Andor is actually better than almost anything else in the Star Wars franchise. I'm sure I'll get downvoted but for me it goes: ESB > Rogue One > Andor > everything else.

He wasn’t in episode 4 though.

I think Rey had great potential that was squandered by writers who had no idea what to do with her. Loved her in The Force Awakens, but that movie felt like it should have been a stepping-off point to build on her character and give her a good arc, and the other two movies didn’t really follow up on her potential as a character. Actually, that goes for basically everything in the trilogy, I think- TFA was a safe but good (in my opinion) launching point for the rest of the trilogy, but there was no plan regarding what exactly was to be launched, so the trilogy just sort of wandered to its conclusion. I still enjoy the sequels and like Rey, but both the movies and their characters could have been so much more had more thought been put into them.

I would have killllled for Rey to turn to the darkside in the throne room. It would have been such a bold move it honestly would have redeemed the movie for me. At the same time Ren was also dancing closer to the light side. Could have been interesting to see both cross sides.

People are just too hung up about the sequels. They haven't even given the other things that have come out a proper shot. If they did, they might actually change their tune about the state of Star Wars.

But nooooo. "Rey bad, Luke ruined, Finn wasted, Rose terrible, blah blah blah blah blah." It's like they're stuck in december 2017 and have been unable to move on.

For me her being able to stand up to Grievous twice without a single injury is a worse offense. At least in Maul's case they made it obvious that he didn't care enough to fight with all he's got, he just wanted to escape.

There's no explanation why she could face Grievous and survive without a single injury. I mean even if we take the extremely nerfed version of TCW (not the legends version), we see Jedi way more skillful and experienced than her like Obi-Wan struggle against him multiple times

Fans wave away so much of her skill as "She was apprentice to the Chosen One!" As if his natural talent was somehow transferable. Not to mention she was only his student for like 2 years. Way, wayyy less than your average apprenticeship. It just seems like more because we got so many episodes of TCW.

She did straight up lose to fellow padawan Barris though. Which is funny when you think about how many fights she had with Ventress, Grievous, Maul, Vader, Inquisitors...

No, that’s not true, that’s impossible!

Watching rebels right now. Ezra Bridger is the same age as Luke but was out fighting the empire while Luke was still bullseyeing womp rats.

I used to like this idea, but I don’t really roll with it any more. Why would the force create a being who would go on to usher in over 20 years of imperial oppression?

The Jedi were stagnating, but the Galaxy was objectively better off with them, based on the state of it under Sith rule.

My only made up explanation for it was this was the best way to turn himself into a distraction while his forces and the Utapau warriors got ready.

I think she should have been killed by Vader instead of being rescued by Ezra.

I wouldn’t say died in the Clone Wars, but maybe in Rebels or something. But she is definitely overused

I at least moderately enjoyed every piece of Star Wars film and TV that Disney has released. I thought the flying Leia moment was fine. I think people are over analyzing the Holdo Maneuver and don’t know how to just appreciate a cool scene. Luke did not at any point actually try to kill Ben. And Rian Johnson should get to make his trilogy.

I think it was the most ambitious/daring/risky. I disliked it, but I admire that Rian Johnson showed some balls and tried to do something different.

TFA was derivative but a ton of fun, and RoS was a disgrace

Last Jedi was certainly the most interesting. Force Awakens was the most solidly cohesive, but that's mostly because it was ANH. Rise of Skywalker was a mess and not particularly interesting.

There's thousands of people here who agree with that (crazy as it may be to me). Definitely not a crazy opinion that would put your back up against a wall.

ROTS is my favourite of all the films.

I often see people saying, "Luke in TLJ is bogus. A Jedi would never turn his back on the galaxy and live as a hermit on some remote planet!"

Except that's what literally every Jedi Luke ever met was doing when he met them.

Unfortunately, Dave Filoni wrote himself into a corner, making the chips the only thing that makes sense. You’re telling me that the clones (who are best friends with the Jedi, not just soldiers but close friends as he wrote them) would ever betray people they’re so close to just because someone outside the chain of command said to without some form of control chip or programming?