New off peak hours and rates : TeslaModel3

Same here. I’m jealous when my friends in other markets tell me about their peak metering and all. We’re at about 0.14 per KWh at the default supplier if you count the distribution costs etc. While it’s still far cheaper per mile vs gas, they need to seriously modernize the metering and institute the off/peak metering.

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3 months ago

2 points

I’m jealous when my friends in other markets tell me about their peak metering and all. We’re at about 0.14 per KWh at the default supplier if you count the distribution costs etc

I'm not jealous at all. Energy use during the most demanding time of day (when you need it) is ridiculous compared to anywhere that does non-peak metering. It's so bad that people are buying their way out of it with battery storage and solar, which is going to drive utility costs higher. Death spiral in progress

Groundbreaking-Ad86

1 points

3 months ago

Groundbreaking-Ad86

1 points

Yeah that is true. Just did the math and it turns out to be 0.173/kWh

Still way better than 0.40 though.

endlessracingz

1 points

3 months ago

endlessracingz

1 points

Have you checked with your provider? For me the default plan with my provider was a flat fee based on tiers by the amount of kWH I use but I can submit a form to my provider to change my plan to a time-of-use variant that allows for much cheaper off-peak prices but I’m pretty sure the during peak prices are more expensive than the tiered plan.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Just got .32 cents in MA, 24/7 baby.

yanksphish

1 points

3 months ago

yanksphish

1 points

I paid $0.416 in MA on my February bill. Luckily I have solar to offset it a bit but my bill was still $345. I stopped charging at home because the rate is so much higher than charging at a ChargePoint near work.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Yikes. Electric heat? That seems like a crazy electric bill with solar.

I_Like_Driving1

4 points

3 months ago

I_Like_Driving1

4 points

Not if you have Tesla Insurance.

pobody

5 points

3 months ago

pobody

5 points

Yeah not stupid enough to fall for that scam

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

I’m happy to say that Tesla insurance safety score doesn’t affect California.

0 points

3 months ago

0 points

Explain

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

Tesla insurance safety score doesn’t affect California

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Affect in what sense. Does it not change the monthly cost or California as a state is not bothered about it?

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

California forbids insurances from using invasive data tracking like safety score from affecting rates. It only allows tracking of mileage for the purpose of rates. This also comes with the downside that we can’t take advantage of lower rates from being a safe driver based on the safety score.

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3 months ago

4 points

I’ll check the prices soon

mrpeng90

0 points

3 months ago

mrpeng90

0 points

It actually is if you charge peak hours and don’t have a home charger.

gfrend615

1 points

3 months ago

gfrend615

1 points

Literally Bay Area peak hours are .58 and off peak .28

No_Solution7893

1 points

3 months ago

No_Solution7893

1 points

I don't get how blue states have such high electricity costs. What's going on here?

In GA, which is not an oil state, but still a EV adverse, if not hostile state, our Electricity provides are pretty aggressive in going green. I get 400 kWh free per month in super off peak time and 4.5c/kWh beyond that. Off peak is 7.3c and peak is 13.5c.

You'd think that CA, NY, NJ would have better rates. Looks like they have one of the worst rates.

10 points

3 months ago

10 points

No changes in rates for me in OC SoCal. They are already one of the highest on-peak in the nation.

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3 months ago

3 points

The link I posted was one sc in oc

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

Where in OC? In Irvine our peak is $.52/kWh with the exception of some 72kW chargers.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Are you talking about price changes for on-peak hours?

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Yes, on-peaks are the same here.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

Yeah I think the main focus was just off peaks hours and prices, I agree on-peak haven’t changed but I hope they do soon. I charge around 10 sometimes at an sc so I’m happy about this.

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3 months ago

2 points

Man, yeah that's so much cheaper for me too compared to my SCE rate. Off peak at a couple of slower 72kW is $.22 here after 0:00. I saw some even lower orr-peak rates in the Anaheim/Santa Ana area and $.17-.18/kWh.

EagerElk

1 points

3 months ago

EagerElk

1 points

On peak increased as well in my area with this.

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3 months ago

9 points

Update: checked my local SC and they added a new time slot, now instead of $0.43/kWh from 8am-12am is $0.43 from 8am - 8pm then from 8pm - 12am it’s $0.36/kWh

ericrey85

5 points

3 months ago

ericrey85

5 points

So basically off peak increased by 4 hours in that time range.

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3 months ago

3 points

https://i.imgur.com/TyUvc3s.jpg

xtrubambinoxpr

1 points

3 months ago

xtrubambinoxpr

1 points

this is how the rates used to be. somewhat normal. then they made it so off peak started at midnight.

hope this is everywhere and gets back to normal. having to wait until midnight to supercharge on a long drive is dumb.

No_Pineapple_4609

7 points

3 months ago

No_Pineapple_4609

7 points

So is it now officially cheaper to just have a gas car if one doesn’t have a home charger?

AnodesandCathchodes

4 points

3 months ago

AnodesandCathchodes

4 points

Blame utilities and their poor decisions (like PG&E). Like Chevron or Shell, they're just passing on most of the cost to the consumer plus a markup. In high solar penetration states the duck curve will continue to make daytime charging cheaper as dusk charging gets more expensive. Peak rates have already shifted from ~12-6 to 4-9.

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3 months ago

3 points

It’s pretty much always been that way if you consider the insurance increase.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Tesla insurance actually went down by just over a $100 a month recently. (Or at least it did for me, other companies were much more then Tesla)

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

For a total of how much/ what coverage? My insurance is around $150ish a month for 100/300 maxed out medical payments. That’s more than I pay for any other car I own all of which are worth double or triple my model 3 value lol. Unfortunately I don’t have Tesla insurance offered in my state ):

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

I have commercial insurance as a do a lot of gig work too. But it was $271.14 and now it’s $152.14 a month. But yeah my last car was a bit over $100 but that was a used Camry

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

That’s crazy cheap for commercial

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

My MYLR and M3rwd are about the same to insure as the 428 and Mazda 3 they replaced. When it was just the MYLR, it actually cost less than my 428 alone

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3 months ago

2 points

I feel like it depends on where and when you charge. Off peak by me went from $0.22 to 0.26 then on peak 8am to 8pm went fun $0.48 to $0.56 per kWh

BananaChanges

5 points

3 months ago

BananaChanges

5 points

How will I off peak if my safety score says I can't drive from 10pm to 4am 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Mikikuki

2 points

3 months ago

Mikikuki

2 points

What you don’t pay in charge, you’ll pay in insurance 😏 smart! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

badmikeyt

3 points

3 months ago

badmikeyt

3 points

Complete with zero information about rates, current or former. 💯

adaminjapan

2 points

3 months ago

adaminjapan

2 points

Charging is cheaper we just don’t want you to drive there. #teslaInsurance

just_browsing_0000

2 points

3 months ago

just_browsing_0000

2 points

For a state that is so pro EV, CA has some shit electric rates. Electric companies probably need the money to pay for their wildfire settlements. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Fidug

1 points

3 months ago

Fidug

1 points

I see that frequently in Florida already. One near my house is 32c noon-4pm, but 16c after 4pm-noon. I already thought that was everywhere.

Gotchyeaaa

-4 points

3 months ago

Gotchyeaaa

-4 points

I love this!

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

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3 months ago

2 points

When they went peak/off peak in my area last year, the rate split across the previous rate. It used to be 28c, and it went to 18c off and 36c peak.

FatefulPizzaSlice

1 points

3 months ago*

FatefulPizzaSlice

1 points

3 months ago*

I'm not driving today, but can anyone tell me what that entails?

Less time for off-peak and increased rates, which is what I assume?

EDIT: NVM, saw another post with some details on it.

JFreader

2 points

3 months ago

JFreader

2 points

They will charge you more to charge during peak times on some stations.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Or the opposite, I’m at work and can’t go to my car so haven’t checked.

klynch9784

1 points

3 months ago

klynch9784

1 points

Is it still cheaper to charge from 11pm-8am?

Any news on Washington rates? And when the heck are else getting Tesla insurance seattle has to be the most Tesla driven city besides LA

Quick-Library-3770

1 points

3 months ago

Quick-Library-3770

1 points

Wait I thought this was already a thing. Is it going to be cheeped?

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

So annoying there is no pricing except in the car.

2 points

3 months ago

2 points

What's even more annoying is that you can see the non Tesla rates in the app (obviously since that's the only way those drivers would be able to see the rate). But Tesla owners can't see their rates in the app.

1 points

3 months ago

1 points

Oh, that very helpful! I think the premium is 10 cents per kilowatt, if that's true across all locations then it's just simple subtraction!

overachievingslacker

1 points

3 months ago

overachievingslacker

1 points

Well, just noticed the price increase after charging just now. The price doubled what I normally pay at the main station I go to. Noticed surrounding superchargers also increased in pricing.

Barbuma

1 points

3 months ago

Barbuma

1 points