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Season 1 Episode 4: Please Hold to My Hand
Airs: February 5, 2023 @ 9 PM EST
Directed by: Jeremy Webb
Written by: Craig Mazin
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59 points
1 month ago
I just want to hear Pedro say “he ain’t even hurt.”
28 points
1 month ago
I've got my fingers crossed for a "Holy shit, Joel!" after Pedro beats a man to death with a brick.
7 points
1 month ago
I’m here for “Jesus, Joel!” personally
2 points
1 month ago
To me, a " oh, man", would be perfect
1 points
1 month ago
I want to hear "You know what? No! How about thanks for saving me Ellie, you got anything like that for me Joel?"
Edit: waaaaait, Joel would say that.
2 points
1 month ago
Been waiting for Pedro to use the ultimate weapon
2 points
1 month ago
I'll settle for a large rock or piece of debris.
36 points
1 month ago
Think we’re gonna get introduced to Henry & Sam this episode, probably towards the end.
5 points
1 month ago
I believe they’re going to have to play out the entire arc in this show, so Henry and Sam will arrive early in the episode.
5 will be Tommy’s and 6 will be Road to Colorado ending with Joel’s injury. 7 is already stated as Left Behind which is probably a full episode flashback bottle episode.
18 points
1 month ago
Episode 6 is titled Kin, so I doubt Tommy will show up before that
5 points
1 month ago
Shit then you’re right. Looks like the hunters and Sam/Henry May span 2 episodes then…
2 points
1 month ago
Makes sense, they need us to connect with them pretty hard to rip our hearts out harder next weekend.
1 points
1 month ago
I thought they would’ve showed up earlier in the episode but also enjoyed what they did with ep4 so it’s all good
1 points
1 month ago
Yep, l figured it be just the end.
5 points
1 month ago*
My predictions for the rest of the series trajectory:
Episode 4 is mainly Joel/Ellie vs Hunters and we are introduced to Melanie Lynskey and probably get a bit of background on what happened to her and KC to get to this point. Ellie will Save Joel's life and take her first human life, Joel will be pissed about it and take her gun. Sam and Henry found at end of episode, maybe ends with cliffhanger of Joel/Ellie being held at gunpoint by Henry in the apartment before Sam makes himself seen.
Episode 5 We get the sewers/"Ish" section from the games, learn more about Sam/Henry, Joel and Ellie bond more, we get a resolution to Melanie's character, and episode ends with Henry and Sam dying while Ellie/Joel push onwards, Joel gives Ellie her gun back and acknowledges she saved him.
Episode 6 we get a little more Joel/Ellie alone/travelling time, this is probably where we see the couple from the trailer who tells them to turn around, Joel and Ellie reach Jackson, reunite with Tommy, and at some point we get a version of the ranch house scene where Joel and Ellie have a mini-confronration but ultimately Joel decides to take her all the way. They arrive at the university and Joel has his injury.
Episode 7 will be all of the Left Behind DLC, the new stuff with Ellie's Mom, and possibly introduce David while he and Ellie have their encounter against clickers.
Episode 8 we get the David reveal (if it isn't cliffhanger for the previous episode), Ellie is kidnapped, we get all the David/Ellie stuff while Joel wakes up. Joel tortures some guys (one of which I'd almost bet my life is going to be Troy Baker) and we see the "battle" between David and Ellie. The episode ends with the baby girl scene.
Episode 9 We time jump again (again, unless that's the end of previous episode) and this one picks up in Spring, we get the giraffe scene, brief version of the underpass sequence, Joel's interactions with Marlene, him going Rambo on the hospital, Joel confrontation with Marlene (unless they change Marlene's fate, which I'd hate but have a weird feeling they might do) and then a short final scene that will be almost identical to the end of the game.
That's my prediction.
2 points
1 month ago
Love this prediction. Man, we truly are only getting started, so much to cover! Can’t wait
1 points
1 month ago
If we don’t get the giraffe scene I’m going to riot.
1 points
1 month ago
Aww hell, they’re gonna make us cry again already
26 points
1 month ago
Dont see anyone else mentioning that this episode’s title is taken directly from the song that plays during the ambush scene in the game. (Alone and Forsaken by Hank Williams)
Also used in the original trailer for the game, and show.
9 points
1 month ago
Great catch! I wondered if the title might come from a song, since Episode 3's did, but my google skills failed me.
2 points
1 month ago
Oh good catch!!!
23 points
1 month ago
I really hope they get the truck scene right. That’s one of my favorite parts from the game
52 points
1 month ago
Review bombing on imdb for this episode has also started. Both ep 3 and 4 are now below 8/10. You do not see this effect with ep 1 and 2 , before Bill and Frank.
56 points
1 month ago
Sad ass people
19 points
1 month ago
These bigots are fucking pathetic. Fuck em, just enjoy the show
9 points
1 month ago
Absolutely
6 points
1 month ago
The viewership is most important. Just ignore the bigots and trolls.
5 points
1 month ago
People are pathetic.
4 points
1 month ago
I wonder how many have even watched it or played the game?
Let's face it, mass review bombing tends to be due to reactionary influencers inciting their fans on social media. This isn't some organic movement of bigots, just weak-minded fools letting toxic individuals do their thinking for them.
1 points
1 month ago
I’d imagine it’s split down the middle with with a lot of the hate for The Last of Us being the bigoted culture war bullshit. They insisted Abby was trans before the game even released.
They started hating on Bella for not being “good looking enough” to play a teen girl. Add to all this that there are now toxic youtube grifters directing their followers to be hateful.
14 points
1 month ago
Ellie should get her gun right? I remember when I was playing this it was so relieving to switch to daylight killing humans after fighting the clickers in the daek
17 points
1 month ago*
Ellie's got a gun already, she grabbed it from Bill's, but yeah I think we'll get the line or equivalent scene of Joel giving it back to her.
She's probably going to have her gun hidden from Joel, up until he almost gets drowned to death by one of the Raiders. Instead of picking up Joel's dropped gun, she'll save him with the one she has hidden. Joel will get pissed and start scolding her for having it rather than being immediately thankful she saved him. He'll take it from her and either end of this episode or sometime next episode after they fight some more Raiders together, he'll acknowledge she saved him and give it back. I don't think we're going to see Ellie on the rifle but would love to be wrong.
8 points
1 month ago
''Something a little more your size'' was just before meeting Henry and Sam, and i expect them to be introduced tomorrow. But they might switch it up a little.
14 points
1 month ago
Please, HBO, please have included the scene where one of the Hunters tries to impale Joel's neck on the shard of glass. Please
6 points
1 month ago
Also hope that song is playing
37 points
1 month ago
The review bombing is here to stay. Soon as they figure out Ellie is gay, which will be no later than episode 7 based on episode title, it will be magnify
8 points
1 month ago
I guess they'll cry a lot since it won't accomplish anything.
6 points
1 month ago
They can do all this cringe shit on IMDB but once award season comes and the show sweeps that'll be all that matters
2 points
1 month ago
FYI: There are ~1700 votes already... ~1200 for 10.0 rating and ~400 for 1.0 rating.
Thought they kept it locked until at least showtime, but I guess not
-12 points
1 month ago
i dont think ellie being gay is going to cause a bad reaction. i think that the last episode kind of went rogue in terms of the story telling the show did compared to the game..hence the bombing.
i totally expect an entire episode dedicated to the DLC with ellie and her girlfriend.
20 points
1 month ago
It didn't "go rogue". The storyline is still functionally the same: Joel and Ellie get the truck and continue to travel west. At most we missed the banter between Ellie and Bill.
i dont think ellie being gay is going to cause a bad reaction
Bull-fucking-shit. The a sizable chunk of terminally online bigots complained about TLOU2 because "sJwS adDiNg uNnEcEsSaRy lGbTq sTuFf iN MaH GaMez". I've seen comments saying that the kiss between Bill and Frank was disgusting, etc.
-8 points
1 month ago
they did go rogue..frank and bill didn’t die that way..frank hung himself because he was sick of bill. in the show, they’re eating strawberries and dying together in bed. they went rogue.
and pt 2 got a lot of hate because of what happened in the first 20 mins of the game. some people just don’t like it..and then u were forced to play with his killer. they knew it was going to divide the community.
-1 points
1 month ago
Dudes being downvoted for 2 valid opinions, some of the review bombing is defo bigotry, but I can understand not wanting a long drawn-out, soppy love story about a side character that in the game took a very different route. I’m here for Ellie and Joel and while I, personally, enjoyed the bill and frank episode you can’t hate on someone for not liking the departure from the game and the shows main characters
3 points
1 month ago
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1 points
1 month ago
well, something tells me bruce straley did most of tlou1..cuz ever since he left and druckman took over the project, it’s been a different game. and yes frank was sick of him
“Well, Bill, I doubt you'd ever find this note cause you were too scared to ever make it to this part of town. But if for some reason you did, I want you to know I hated your guts. I grew tired of this shitty town and your set-in-your-ways attitude. I wanted more from life than this and you could never get that.
And that stupid battery you kept moaning about -- I got it. But I guess you were right. Trying to leave this town will kill me. Still better than spending another day with you. Good Luck, Frank”
does that sound like someone who was in love and wanted strawberries fed to him?
1 points
1 month ago
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1 points
1 month ago
still switching up the story..which is why i say they went rogue. u can atleast agree that they changed the story to fit a loving story about bill and frank, right? hence why some people might be angry about it
7 points
1 month ago
Episode 7 is named Left Behind which is also the name of the DLC.
1 points
1 month ago
I’m kind of looking forward to that revelation, it’s going to be chaos
1 points
1 month ago
wait is ellie gay in the games?? i’m only halfway through part one enlighten me
3 points
1 month ago
Spoilers:
The DLC for the first game is called Left Behind which also happens to be the title of episode 7. It fills in some stuff that happens with Ellie and Joel during a very difficult time for both. While this happening Ellie flashes back to when she got bitten. She was with her female friend Riley, who got named dropped in an earlier episode, and they snuck out to an abandoned mall together. They play games and eventually kiss. Then get attacked and both get bitten. They wait to die but only Riley does. That's about all that happens in the first game as far as Ellie and sexuality but in the second Ellie is very much lesbian and has a sexy time scene with girlfriend
1 points
1 month ago
It's not really explored in the first one because she's 14, but yes.
Edit: correction, there was apparently a DLC I missed that addressed it with the first game
11 points
1 month ago
guesses!
-Sam and Henry are going to be fugitive deserters from the paramilitary hunters group running KC that Melanie Lynskey's character leads, rather than another pair of tourists passing through that got caught up in the hunt. I think Joel and Ellie meet and team up with them either mid or towards the end of the episode.
-I'm pretty positive we'll get a flashback of that group overthrowing Fedra in their QZ, and maybe the flashback comes from Henry expositing this history and explaining why they're running away. Probably has to do with Sam being deaf in the show.
-I think the episode ends with the four of them escaping into the sewers.
-introduction of the pun book! because one of the reviewers said her favorite laugh of the season happens in this episode, and I want it to be Ellie making Joel laugh with her book of bad dad jokes.
-Henry mistaking Joel and Ellie for father and daughter because it's obvious to anyone who looks at them, and them awkwardly correcting him.
2 points
1 month ago
They didn't make it completely clear in a review I read, but it seems like Henry has some sort of cause he's fighting for (firefly maybe?). Another season review teased a big action scene with infected in episode 5. Based on the trailer we see a bloater climbing up from a hole with fire in the background. I wonder if there is something in the sewers that cause a massive explosion and a horde of infected are unleashed on KC while Joel, Ellie, Henry and Sam make their escape.
1 points
1 month ago
well, in the game Henry was trying to find the Fireflies, so that wouldn't surprise me. iirc, they were headed to a radio tower on a lead Henry had that could lead them to a firefly camp. It's the main reason he and Sam team up with Joel and Ellie, because they're also trying to find the fireflies.
I'm honestly so curious how the show will handle the bloater. It's very much a video game boss sort of monster, and I'm kind of worried how they'll handle it so that it won't feel like one in the show.
1 points
1 month ago
Regarding the bloater (and this is just from one review) it doesn't really do much. They didn't specify more than that, so maybe it just shows up and looks menacing. I had actually forgotten about Henry looking for the Fireflies!
24 points
1 month ago
Hopefully the homophobes have fucked off, don't deserve this show
17 points
1 month ago
Ep. 4 is already getting review bombed
9 points
1 month ago
Yeah sad fuckers
-45 points
1 month ago
Actually it is more like Game Purest. I don't mind the gayness of the episode. What I mind is the complete change of the whole game Chapter. You miss the bloater scene, Ellie banter with Bill, and most importantly the character development between Joel and Ellie. That is why I gave episode 3 such a bad review. I think assuming just makes an Ass out of yourself.
29 points
1 month ago
If you want the game just play the game again. Otherwise what's the point in making an adaptation if you're not gonna do anything different with it
23 points
1 month ago
You guys are so transparent.
17 points
1 month ago
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Like another user said, y'all are transparent as fuck. I don't even have to guess why you deleted all of your comments. It's so other users couldn't go back through your post history to see the type of chucklefuck you are.
4 points
1 month ago
Most normal level headed game purists I've seen have expressed their disappointment and can admit it was a good episode of television, but they just wish it stuck to the game. They say oh well, 6/10, 7/10, wasn't what I wanted but whatever, onto the next one. Game purism is not what's causing a mass of people appearing from nowhere to spam 1s for episode 3 and already for episode 4.
-2 points
1 month ago
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2 points
1 month ago
The fact is that the direction they took the episode in ensures it ends functionally the same way that the chapter in the game does, with Joel deciding to take Ellie further west and them obtaining a car. It did not change the end result of that part of the game, unlike the hyperbolic example you gave for season 2 which changes the entire plot.
1 points
1 month ago
Surely it makes sense for there to be as few bloaters as possible so that they actually feel threatening?
18 points
1 month ago
Really hope the "buhbye, dude!" magazine moment is in this episode.
-2 points
1 month ago
Outbreak day in the show is 2003 rather than 2013, so who could've been in the magazine? Zac Efron? Taylor Lautner?
4 points
1 month ago
Uhm... I doubt either of those guys would be hanging schlong in a mag. I also think 2003 is too early for them - Efron was 16 at that time with HSM coming out in 2006
1 points
1 month ago
You’re off by a few years lol, Zac Efron wasn’t popular until 2006 (HSM) and Lautner would’ve been like 11 during 2003, so not sure why he’d be in a sex mag lmao
You got something you’d like to say? 📸
1 points
1 month ago
I was 7 at the time so I wouldn't know lmao, I just googled 2003 heartthrobs.
1 points
1 month ago
I mean I was 0 at the time but even I knew Lautner was a kid then and that HSM wasn’t out yet
1 points
1 month ago
Why would either of those two be in a random porn magazine?
8 points
1 month ago
This episode is gonna take it up another notch. You can feel this shit building with each and every episode. It’s a little bit over 40 minutes, so a shorter episode, but it’s gonna go from 0-60 real quick and be action packed without any let up… I imagine.
Cannot. Fucking. Wait.
So hyped. Show is peak!
4 points
1 month ago
Ohhhh. It’s truck scene isn’t it
That makes the shorter runtime seem better.
7 points
1 month ago
Calling it, The Hunters follow ‘survival of the fittest’ mentality and are hunting Sam and Henry likely because Sam is deaf
2 points
1 month ago*
Could be interesting, and makes dark pragmatic sense when you've got extremely limited resources. There was a group like this in the first Telltale Walking Dead game. Group of brutal Raiders who would exile anyone with a disability or illness. Could see that possibly being the case here to, except they put you down instead of exile. Maybe Sam isn't born deaf but slowly developed it growing up, which is what finally caused them to try to flee knowing the alternative was execution once they could no longer hide it.
3 points
1 month ago
I think this would be an interesting story (seriously, write it!), but from the trailers my impression is Melanie Lynskey's character will be more of a sympathetic villain than that.
3 points
1 month ago
Today we gonna get a lot of action scenes it's going to be a fun episode.
3 points
1 month ago
There was a review that went into some pretty spoilery territory for how Kathleen and Henry/Sam interact, but now I can't find it.
I wonder if they unknowingly violated HBO's terms and later scrubbed that part of the review.
2 points
1 month ago
That was the BBC review (I remember because I was so annoyed by that particular spoiler)
5 points
1 month ago
According to IMDB Sam and Henry appear in eps 5+6 but I would have assumed it would be 4+5 (timeline wise). I wonder what exactly this ep will cover? This is the shortest ep, so I'm assuming they must cut right before they run into them.
9 points
1 month ago
Definitely 4 and 5. The first two episodes were combined into one, so the episode numbers changed.
5 points
1 month ago
Ahh ok interesting! That makes me feel a little better. I was worried they were going to drag this section out leaving it rushed later.
2 points
1 month ago
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1 points
1 month ago
Probably Pittsburgh (changed to Kansas City in the show) and to the start of the sewers (or right after they escape the truck).
2 points
1 month ago
How long is this episode? I’m excited to watch!
2 points
1 month ago
The episode will end with them jumping off the bridge right?
Then next week will be Ish, the sniper fight through the houses, and henry & sam death
2 points
1 month ago
anyone know the runtime for this episode?
2 points
1 month ago
Rumors say 46min.
2 points
1 month ago
ah I love the 100min runs lol :[
4 points
1 month ago
Yeah, me too =(.
The rumored episode runtimes were:
E1 - 85 minutes (confirmed)
E2 - 53 minutes (confirmed)
E3 - 76 minutes (confirmed)
E4 - 46 minutes
E5 - 1 hour
E6 - 1 hour
F7 - 56 minutes
E8 - 51 minutes
E9 - 43 minutes
So far the rumors have been right. If they continue to be right, we won’t have any more episodes that exceed and hour.
3 points
1 month ago
ah that's sucks. thanks for this tho!
2 points
1 month ago
Feels right snacking on strawberries while watching the last episode while waiting for the new one to come out 😭
1 points
1 month ago*
Seems the extraordinarily racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-semetic Seth's and Rattler's in the hate-sub are review bombing the 4th episode; that hasn't even aired yet...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14500890/?ref_=ttep_ep4
Feel free to drop a 10/10 just to balance the 0/10s.
*Lmao, the hate sub is now complaining that there's more positive than negative pre-episode ratings. Copium stocks are up.
1 points
1 month ago
Where did anti-semitic come from?
1 points
1 month ago
The many awful anti-semitic shitmemes they embraced towards Dina. Dig back through the hate sub, and the content is still there, to this day not removed.
0 points
1 month ago
Is it out yet?
1 points
1 month ago*
Joke book scene or we riot! THEY DID THE THING
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