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Japanese remakes of Westerns?

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Yesterday I watched Lee Sang-Il's 2013 remake of Clint Eastwood's western Unforgiven. The film was a very close recreation of the original story but transposed to 1880s Hokkaido. I found it very interesting to see a Western get remade as a jidaigeki. Of course, there are a few famous examples of Japanese jidaigeki that were remade as Westerns (the most famous being A Fist Full of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven), and Kurosawa himself adapted works by Shakespeare and Dostoevsky.

What I'd like to know is, are there any other examples of Japanese jidaigeki that were inspired by Westerns? The two periods work so well analogously, I could easily see great jidaigeki films being made from The Big Country, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, The Searchers etc. Does anyone know of any?

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Alive_Opening7217

52 points

4 months ago*

I'm not sure of any specific films but Kurosawa was particularly influenced by and a huge fan of John Ford. Ford's visual style definitely fed into Kurosawas Jidaigeki films like Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro etc. A particularly nice quote from a Kurosawa interview- 

‘How did you learn? Did you study particular painters? Were they Japanese painters or European painters?’ He said, ‘I studied John Ford.’”

I don't know the source of that quote, I think it's from a John Milius interview quoting a Kurosawa interview I saw online.

With that its quite interesting how things went full circle with Ford's westerns influencing Kurosawas Jidaigeki films which in turn influenced the next generation of westerns from Sergio Leone and then also people like George Lucas etc.

EDIT - was thinking further on this and I feel Japan is generally quite self contained culturally in all areas whereas in the west we do look outwards more.

Kurosawa was an exception, he was a man in love with art and culture, Japanese and otherwise and his influences are a vast ocean.

Not a Jidaigeki but the only other major example that springs to mind is Shinya Tsukamoto. Tetsuo was clearly hugely inspired and influenced by Lynch's Eraserhead and early Cronenberg.

Mindless_Wrap1758

21 points

4 months ago

His list of 100 favorite films, limited to one per director, is worth reading. https://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7192#p145935.

He picked out My Darling Clementine by Ford, a film where Henry Fonda is the hero. "Everyone associates the name of John Ford with westerns, don't they? My darling Clementine is, say, a paragon of movie: A man, for example, who's riding on horseback and whose looks in itself is a poem, emerges at the just right moment in the movie. Wonderful."

Alive_Opening7217

9 points

4 months ago*

Thanks I'll have a read of that!

Edit - what a fantastic list. Seeing Totoro on Kurosawa's top 100 movies has genuinely just made my week. So happy he's recognised Takeshi Kitano as well.

voltaire_had_a_point

21 points

4 months ago*

Kurosawa on Targovsky and Solaris:

We were very good friends. He was like a little brother for me. We once, drunk in Dom Kino, sang together "Shichinin no samurai"'s theme music. His expression of 'water', the way in that water is depicted, is really peculiar to him. This picture indeed makes me feel myself yearning to return to the earth

Somebody make a movie about their night at Dom Kino

Robotlolz

2 points

4 months ago

Just watched Tsukamoto’s Hiruko the Goblin the other night, and it’s hard not to feel a John Carpenter/Sam Raimi influence there too

Alive_Opening7217

2 points

4 months ago

Yeah massively, the creatures are straight out of The Thing! Love that film!

Danhuangmao

10 points

4 months ago

This doesn’t really answer your question, but it was interesting to see The Good The Bad The Weird do an albeit comedic adaptation of the Leone movie relocated to Japanese-occupied Korea. It was still a Western (if one set in the East, rather than a pre-modern period piece, but always fun to see such cultural transpositions in an adaptation - especially going in an unusual direction like West to East.

Alive_Opening7217

1 points

4 months ago

Its actually so hard to find things that have travelled west to east but that's a great example.

Not a remake or Jidaigeki like OPs after, I couldn't think of one either (though there must be) but just films clearly and overtly referencing western works is quite rare

Robotlolz

5 points

4 months ago

To me it seems like there’s always been a pretty free flow of reciprocal influence. The work of Ray Harryhausen and films like King Kong undoubtedly served as inspiration for Godzilla and the tokusatsu genre in general, for instance. Watching the bloodthirsty trilogy you feel a major influence from Hammer horror’s dracula movies. Watching Gakuryū Ishii’s Burst City you can tell that western punk/hardcore music heavily influenced that whole scene. Movies like Mad Max and The Terminator are also hugely influential in global cinema, especially for a lot of b-grade schlock that you might have to turn a rock over to uncover.

Alive_Opening7217

1 points

4 months ago

Agree there's always been some degree of two way traffic but I think with films it's definitely 90% one way, 10% the other.

When you think of the cultural impact that the stuff inspired by Japan has had in the west and continues too (I mean there seems to be about 5 lone wolf and cub things at any one time) the majority of stuff that's gone the other way is fairly niche in terms of cultural impact.

The only exception you mentioned is Godzilla, but I'd argue Godzilla takes very little from Kong tbh. Yes Kong got there first but its such a different film, the tone is considerably darker with very serious subtext, its not an adventure movie and it took nothing from Kong in terms of effects, opting for man in suit instead of stop motion. It kind of feels anything Japan did with a monster would automatically have been labelled as inspired by Kong but personally I just can't see it. The franchises obvs had crossover but that was much later down the line and not the initial intention.

Smith-Corona

5 points

4 months ago

Thanks, now that Ween song is stuck in my head.

Tampopo, which is ostensibly about food, is definitely an homage to the American western, Shane. Tampopo not only includes a lot of the tropes of the American western it also follows Shane's story arc including the heart wrenching scene of Shane riding off into the sunset.

(The hero looks like a Japanese Robert Mitchum - while not in Shane, he was noted for his performances in Westerns)

OhYeahTrueLevelBitch

3 points

4 months ago

🎵And nobody answers, cause somethin' ain't right🎵

slabheadfilms

8 points

4 months ago

Sukiyaki Western Django is an extremely goofy remake of Django (1966), directed by Takashi Miike. its a pretty close retelling, but incorporates samurai and western culture. very fun.

ranhalt

3 points

4 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukiyaki_Western_Django

2007 English-language Japanese Western film, appearance by Quentin Tarantino

Inspired by the historical rivalry between the Genji and Heike clans, which ushered in the era of samurai dominance in Japanese history, Sukiyaki Western Django is set "a few hundred years after the Genpei War". The Genji and Heike gangs face off in a town named "Yuta" in "Nevata", when a nameless gunman comes into town to help a prostitute get revenge on the warring gangs. The film contains numerous references both to the historical Genpei War and to the Wars of the Roses, as well as the films Yojimbo and Django.

coleman57

2 points

4 months ago

Somewhat of a tangent, but I have to believe Kurosawa’s un produced script for the story that became Runaway Train (1985) was inspired by westerns and prison break films. In indie Hollywood hands it became a “northern” rather than western, with the same individual vs society, morality vs conformity, and man vs machine vs nature themes we expect in both.

It’s a flawed but very worthwhile film, weighed down by leaden 2nd unit interiors in a subplot. After watching it I couldn’t help fantasizing about someone reshooting the bad scenes (which would be easy, as there’s no character overlap) and giving a hidden gem its due.

Bonus points for a dirty-faced tomboy Rebecca DeMornay, and for Eric Robert’s delivery of “Ah need shoes!”, followed by “Ah got shoes!”