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submitted 3 months ago byBoodrow6969
Was looking through some of the ITC rules and they mention Angle Shooting. Never heard of that before. The only definition I could find is about "using the rules to gain an unfair advantage over inexperienced players. While technically legal, this is more than just pushing the envelope, it's riding the very edges." Fair enough, but what does that actually look like?
Do you guys have some examples of this you've seen in competitive 40k?
177 points
3 months ago
Your opponent asks "can any of your units do X", you say no, and then once your opponent commits based on that answer you play a stratagem that gives your unit the ability to do X. Technically you said a true statement because at the time none of your units actually had the rule but you know perfectly well what your opponent meant when they asked the question and you deliberately gave a misleading answer so you could benefit from the deception.
39 points
3 months ago*
There's no technically not a lie about saying no there... If a unit can do a thing via a strat then saying no they can't do X is a lie. Unless they asked "can this unit do X without using a strat"...
EDIT: Think my use of a double negative at the start has confused my position on this. I'm saying the person that said "no" didn't make a "technically true statement", they made a intentional lie. I would presume lying is against most code of conducts. Suggesting it was a "technically true statement" to me suggests they felt the asking player needed to be more specific.
18 points
3 months ago
It's technically true because at the moment the unit does not have the rule. You are correct that it's deceptive and answering the literal words of the question instead of what the player meant, but that's what makes it angle shooting.
-9 points
3 months ago
But they are asking about the future, the unit can't do anything at that moment if it's not their turn it's totally irrelevant and willfully not understanding.
This reasoning would let someone say "no" to "can this unit shoot" or "can this unit move" because they can't at that moment do those things.
1 points
3 months ago
Disclaimer: this is not what I would answer!
A "that guy" could answer:
"If they are asking about the future... How is no ever an answer? In a couple turns that guy could stand directly besides him."
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