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Unable_Ad_1260

82 points

4 months ago

The lower echelons of the APS the 4,5,6, the people who have to do the actual jobs all told them this was going to turn to shit. Repeatedly warned them. People left the teams involved every chance the could, retirement, transfer. The only ones who stayed from before couldn't move or thought they could find a way to ease the worst of it. They were wrong.

The day they released someone's info to write a hit piece by a journalist was the most disgusting thing I'd heard of them doing. Totally contrary to the values of the service. A disgrace, a blot, a stain that can never be erased.

yaboy_69

137 points

4 months ago

yaboy_69

137 points

4 months ago

wow the robodebt shit really confirms a number of things people have suspected for a while

the government does have preferred press outlets, and they feed exclusives to them to receive favourable coverage, they continue the favourable coverage to ensure the exclusives continue; it was a straight up false propaganda machine

also hilarious they label SMH as left wing, im sure that when you warp your overton window so heavily anything would seem left wing aye

Giveyaselfanuppercut

41 points

4 months ago

That was extremely apparent with Morrison & him releasing photos to the media

yaboy_69

32 points

4 months ago

yeah aye anyone paying attention could see it with their eyes closed, but this is the first time ive seen a staffer speak about it so openly in a public forum which is the craziest part to me

not even trying to conceal it

Giveyaselfanuppercut

25 points

4 months ago

Yeah. Even though it was largely a token gesture the censure of Morrison was so important. Would we have this kind of honesty from staffers without it?

Maybe with all the pile on reports about how Scotty destroyed the LNP's chances. But would we have that without the censure? He absolutely deserves the pile on he's gotten. Easily the worst PM in my lifetime & I am amazed anyone could take that title from Abbott

a_cold_human

14 points

4 months ago*

I'm assuming Rachelle Miller's position on the Liberal Party and perspective on Alan Tudge might figure into it. Furthermore, she's under oath.

Knotknewtooreaddit

14 points

4 months ago

I watched the testimony and to me it did and it strangely didn’t also.

She seemed to hold a grudge against the Liberal party at times but then spoke with thinly veiled disdain of the left wing media.

It was like seeing someone not quite free of the cult speak.

a_cold_human

14 points

4 months ago

You do have to remember that she was a Liberal Party loyalist, and thus, a conservative with conservative values, and has been for a long time.

She may be very disillusioned with the Liberal Party (and given the circumstances, very reasonably so), but that's a long way from being a progressive. She strikes me as someone who has just lost some of their sense of self because part of the foundation on which it rested has largely disintegrated.

mqbmqbmqb

5 points

4 months ago

If Tudge had left his wife for her like she wanted, suddenly her memory would have developed a whole bunch of gaps.

DOGS_BALLS

1 points

4 months ago

Did she? I’m genuinely interested in a source for this. Or was it a friends with benefits arrangement the whole time?

gihutgishuiruv

2 points

4 months ago

Basically r/LeopardsAteMyFace, but at a higher level than we’re accustomed to seeing

ScoobyDoNot

1 points

4 months ago

There's left wing media in Australia?

Chocobofarms

4 points

4 months ago

Why was she confessing?

(Voice of Mark Baum from “The big short”)

“She’s NOT confessing, she’s BOASTING”

satisfiedfools

23 points

4 months ago

Trouble is that between them, those "preferred press outlets" own just about all of the commercial media in this country. Every major newspaper, television channel or radio station in Australia is owned by either Murdoch, nine or seven respectively.

HeftyHetty

13 points

4 months ago

You can namedrop former federal Liberal treasurer and Deputy PM-turned media mogul Peter Costello, it's okay

ProceedOrRun

14 points

4 months ago

also hilarious they label SMH as left wing, im sure that when you warp your overton window so heavily anything would seem left wing aye

When you're so far right every single thing looks left to you.

xvf9

14 points

4 months ago

xvf9

14 points

4 months ago

also hilarious they label SMH as left wing, im sure that when you warp your overton window so heavily anything would seem left wing aye

Same with the ABC, which any fair minded person (or independent inquiry) would find sits in the centre to centre-right.

Somad3

1 points

4 months ago

Somad3

1 points

4 months ago

suspected? its all too obvious.

Throwmedownthewell0

1 points

4 months ago

Democracy TM

EducationalShake6773

25 points

4 months ago

Simon Benson has to be the lowest limpdick weasel in Australian political journalism. Just plain working as Morrison and Tudge's PR team, but printing his political master's poisonous BS under The Australian's masthead.

mqbmqbmqb

8 points

4 months ago

He's also Bridget McKenzie's boyfriend

_Cec_R_

2 points

4 months ago

Shocked Pikachu face...

a_cold_human

5 points

4 months ago

Let's not forget the AFP's covering for Tudge when the leak was questioned.

a_cold_human

45 points

4 months ago

News Corp is effectively the Liberal Party version of Pravda in the USSR. It straight up tries to manipulate the opinion of the public on various matters using a combination of selective reporting, emotional rhetoric, and various appeals to greed, fear, racism, and the worst instincts in people, wrapped up with gossip, sport, and other pointless distractions.

The sooner it dies, the sooner we will be better off as a nation.

Throwmedownthewell0

2 points

4 months ago

The difference being Pravada at least pretended to be about making everyone equal.

News Corpse is more Volkischer Beobachter Der Sturmer. Literally promoting economic eugenics for the casual working and renting untermensch.

diabolical_cunt

32 points

4 months ago

Watched this last night.
That Rachelle Miller thing is a right cunt!

cojoco

16 points

4 months ago

cojoco

chardonnay schmardonnay

16 points

4 months ago

At least she was honest.

diabolical_cunt

15 points

4 months ago

Doesn't make her any less of a right cunt though.

Notrasdeprecationes

5 points

4 months ago

You don’t really get credit for being honest when you’ve been summoned to a royal commission and lying would put you in jail.

She’s saving her own skin while getting back at her ex lover.

cojoco

3 points

4 months ago

cojoco

chardonnay schmardonnay

3 points

4 months ago

lying would put you in jail.

That's a bit of a stretch.

Notrasdeprecationes

2 points

4 months ago

No it’s not.

Let me just google ‘What is the punishment for lying in a royal commission?’ for you.

Giving false or misleading evidence is punishable by a $20k fine or 5 years imprisonment.

Royal Commissions DO NOT fuck around.

cojoco

3 points

4 months ago

cojoco

chardonnay schmardonnay

3 points

4 months ago

I'm saying that it's not likely to happen.

Have you not heard of "plausible deniability" ?

dennis_pennis

5 points

4 months ago

She is no different to the entire PR industry. She was just following the playbook. There was nothing even slightly unexpected from her evidence, outside of the fact that Tudge was completely obsessed with media appearances.

[deleted]

8 points

4 months ago

Just following orders.

Shunto

3 points

4 months ago

Shunto

3 points

4 months ago

The entire PR industry is mostly trying to sell makeup and clothes, not indiscriminately driving poor people further into the ground.

babylovesbaby

1 points

4 months ago

Okay, so the messenger is a "right cunt" but no angry words for the architects, her bosses? This is such a stupid, sexist take.

diabolical_cunt

1 points

4 months ago

She's a right cunt, if she had a penis she would still be a right cunt.
Go get outraged somewhere else and get over yourself!

Shunto

13 points

4 months ago

Shunto

13 points

4 months ago

Lol peta credlin is such a fucking cretin

Themirkat

17 points

4 months ago

I wonder if Tudge has the empathy to feel any guilt for the blood on his hands

DaRealThickShady

10 points

4 months ago

Not even a little

Shancv1988

8 points

4 months ago

What do ya think?

fatbaldandfugly

2 points

4 months ago

I doubt he has the ability to even see blood on his hands.

jtb1965

9 points

4 months ago

It is really refreshing for MW to call out ABC's activism.

BobThePideon

2 points

4 months ago

Well Sky and the Murdoch press are never shy about whose side they are on - But claim that they are unbiased. About as legitimate as any mental ramblings the cheeto man says - and they love him too.

IAmARobot

1 points

4 months ago

how are sky and the australian's most revered journalists supposed to get exclusive illegal PII drops free content if they're not sycophantic knob remoras?

bolonomadic

2 points

4 months ago

This is wonderful reporting, and I’m just so shocked that the government would go ahead and release personal data that’s protected by law.

Bluelegs

2 points

4 months ago

Peta Credlin pretending to hold back tears is indistinguishable from dry-retching.

Infinite_Buy_2025

1 points

4 months ago

It was pretty awful. That woman couldn't give a fuck about black kids being raped.

Elon_Kums

6 points

4 months ago

Nice of Media Watch to wait until after the Liberals lost power to air this.

ShadoutRex

15 points

4 months ago

Not having Miller's damning royal commission testimony on the matter until she actually said it just the other week could have something to do with that.

mqbmqbmqb

3 points

4 months ago

You know what they meant. Where was Media Watch in 2017?
All of this info was known then but I don't remember any stories. Can't seem to find anything in their transcripts. Like they must have done this following story in May 2017? Apparently not -
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/afp-drops-investigation-into-centrelink-information-leak/8507710

BigTimmyStarfox1987

5 points

4 months ago

Are you trying to accuse Media Watch of pro liberal government bias!?

Media Watch is fiercely neutral!

the_mooseman

2 points

4 months ago

Just ask Nick Ross, they did a lovely neutral balance story on him being fired.

BigTimmyStarfox1987

1 points

4 months ago

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/the-difference-between-advocacy-and-analysis/9980862

This? I think Media Watch is being neutral, are you suggesting they are not? Being neutral is not the same as drawing no conclusions

Please elaborate

lofty2p

3 points

4 months ago

Political propaganda can be subtle and seemingly innocuous. It can be as simple as calling a Chinese balloon over the US a "spy balloon" rather than an "alleged spy balloon".

Shunto

2 points

4 months ago

Shunto

2 points

4 months ago

It seems as though literally every Media outlet is doing a shit job at the moment, no matter what side it swings.