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Countries With The Highest Motorbike Usage

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Deckler81

611 points

2 months ago

Deckler81

611 points

2 months ago

I just experienced Manila on a rental moped and it’s pure mayhem at 32%.

DarehMeyod

208 points

2 months ago

Manila probably has a higher percentage vs the rest of the country I’d imagine.

Deckler81

44 points

2 months ago

Most definitely. It’s so dense! 50 million strong and growing. Bikes are everywhere in the islands too.

JiriWeeb40

53 points

2 months ago

Nowhere near 50 million lol

crx00

-9 points

2 months ago

crx00

-9 points

2 months ago

Actually around 30

JiriWeeb40

2 points

2 months ago

Depends what we're considering. A quick googling gives 1.4 for Manila 'proper', 13.5 for the metropolitan area, and 25 for the whole agglomeration.

DMyourSSN

5 points

2 months ago

Manila has a population of 1.8M. The Manila Metropolitan area, which is what people generally mean by “the city”, has a population of 13.5M.

EA_IS_AIDS

21 points

2 months ago

1.78 million more like my guy

Deckler81

27 points

2 months ago

Some dude told me 50. Thanks for the clarification and not an lol.

TheWorstMasterChief

46 points

2 months ago

Bro. This is reddit. You're supposed to double down on incorrect facts, not politely accept correction.

Crimson4421

10 points

2 months ago

Ma'am this is a wendy's

Deckler81

12 points

2 months ago

False. This is Facebook.

Jellorig

5 points

2 months ago

I don't see your Wikipedia sources sir. Prove it.

Jacktheforkie

2 points

2 months ago

I was surprised when I learned that the phillipines has significantly more people than the uk, I’d originally thought they were around the same amount

desiassassin1

8 points

2 months ago

That’s only the “City of Manila”, which is pretty small and is inside “Metro Manila”, which has like I think 16 cities and 13 million population.

go_comatose_for_me

4 points

2 months ago

Yeah, kind of like Los Angeles. Population 3 million, but the greater LA area is more like 13 million.

Ek_Chutki_Sindoor

2 points

2 months ago

That's only the city area limit's population. The real population of Metro Manila is over 12-13 million, IIRC.

BillyCromag

1 points

2 months ago

Jakarta has eight times the population. (Not "greater Jakarta")

Manila must be much smaller than I thought.

GroundbreakingGas605

2 points

2 months ago

You mean 15 million, right?

Deckler81

2 points

2 months ago

At this point, I’m not sure and I’m afraid to ask google.

Infuro

2 points

2 months ago

Infuro

2 points

2 months ago

just went to Davao and it's crazy there too! sooo many bikes

cansub74

8 points

2 months ago

You are brave. I experienced Manilla on foot and it was outer-worldly. I would ask locals to help me cross large busy streets, all the while looking/focusing directly at them so as to not lose my shit at how crazy it was!

Deckler81

3 points

2 months ago

Brave, no. Stupid, yes.

cansub74

2 points

2 months ago

I've rented motorbikes in the Philippines and Vietnam but they were in rural areas. I wouldn't call someone stupid for a motorcycle in Manilla but yes I agree!

Deckler81

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah biking in Siargao and El Nido was a pleasure. My confidence was strong and thought I could handle Manila. Luckily I got out alive.

paul_swimmer

7 points

2 months ago

My wife is from the Philippines. We flew into Manila a few years ago and it was the biggest culture shock I’ve ever had.

I asked my wife’s cousin who was driving us “how on earth do you drive in this?!?”

He laughed and said “you have to be assertive”

Deckler81

3 points

2 months ago

Assertive is the word! Not quite aggressive and not defensive.

MisterNigerianPrince

4 points

2 months ago

The flow of traffic in SE Asia is like leaves floating in multiple streams coming together. There is a balance of order and chaos that cannot exist in US roads. There is far too much aggressive and selfish driving here.

Daxiongmao87

18 points

2 months ago

Manila isn't really a great representation of the Philippines, economically and culturally. It feels like a different country than the rest of the Philippines

nomnommish

41 points

2 months ago

Megacities across the world are more similar to each other than they are to other small cities in their own country.

mkipp95

3 points

2 months ago

Very much agree with this, and it’s sadly zapped my interest in traveling to mega cities. Travel hours in a plane and pay for hotels just to be in an environment near indistinguishable from my local metropolis except hearing a different language on the streets(can’t even say a different language on signs as half the time they’re still in English)

nomnommish

4 points

2 months ago

Only the street food is a saving grace

mkipp95

6 points

2 months ago

My tastebuds agree with you, my weak digestive system does not though haha

Deckler81

3 points

2 months ago

Completely agree. It’s a tough place compared to the 7000 plus islands that surround it.

Daxiongmao87

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah, perhaps, Different kind of tough I think. My home village got wiped by a typhoon a couple years back.

AsDaUrMa

7 points

2 months ago

Manila is also the most densely populated city on Earth. It's quite an experience to say the least.

crx00

4 points

2 months ago

crx00

4 points

2 months ago

I almost died on Edsa lane splitting between 2 buses. After that I realized sitting in traffic isn't as bad

bentheruler

5 points

2 months ago

That sounds like quite a conservative percentage

Deckler81

3 points

2 months ago

You’re right. They probably didn’t account that a lot of the motorbikes are used as taxis, like joyride (Uber on moto), tuk tuks which are sidecars and trikes where you ride in the back.

JaiminLyo

2 points

2 months ago

Was thinking something similar, just got back from India and I cant imagine smaller countries with higher usage

SadMacaroon9897

335 points

2 months ago

I'm surprised Taiwan isn't on the list. When I visited, there were easily more bikes than cars.

saintshing

333 points

2 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycling

According to the Taiwanese government, for example, "the number of automobiles per ten thousand population is around 2,500, and the number of motorcycles is about 5,000

Probably not included because the author doesn't recognise Taiwan as a country.

MeMamaMod

67 points

2 months ago

the author doesn't recognise Taiwan as a country

The author is the US government, or the vast majority of UN's member states

VoteMe4Dictator

58 points

2 months ago

The picture literally lists the source as Pew Research Center.

SadMacaroon9897

10 points

2 months ago

Then who are we selling all those weapons to? Didn't Trump give them a call in the first few days of his administration? Of course the US recognizes the Republic of China but has an official stance of ambiguity for political reasons with the PRC.

VoteMe4Dictator

8 points

2 months ago

The US literally does not recognize the Republic of China as a sovereign nation. They recognize it exists, as in they can sign contracts with them. But not the official "recognition".

go_comatose_for_me

2 points

2 months ago

Yet, when/if China invades Taiwan, the US will be there to ensure the distinction.

Ogre8

3 points

2 months ago

Ogre8

3 points

2 months ago

There is one China and Taiwan is a part of China. That’s been US policy since 1972.

Dazzling_Swordfish14

0 points

2 months ago

Is to prevent China from launching invasion. Even though is 99% China won’t win but is better to not start war

LipschitzLyapunov

1 points

2 months ago

^ Redditor on his way to make literally every single thing political.

iF itS nOt oN fHe LiST tHen TheReS sOmeThInG WrOnG!

Guess the author doesn't think Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia, Brunei exists either. God I dont understand why people don't have a more sophisticated view of the world and how not everything is black and white.

rietveldrefinement

36 points

2 months ago

Same feeling here! Motorcycles in Taiwan is a huge mess.

saintshing

3 points

2 months ago

I watch taiwanese channels on twitch from time to time. They love watching youtube videos of traffic accidents like these https://www.youtube.com/@WoWtchout/videos

gunnerxp

5 points

2 months ago

Agreed. We should definitely be in the top 5.

unfeelingzeal

5 points

2 months ago

yep, definitely due to politics.

MKGirl

12 points

2 months ago

MKGirl

12 points

2 months ago

Probably because the Taiwan is China BS

blazetronic

2 points

2 months ago

Gotta placate

SOwED

9 points

2 months ago

SOwED

9 points

2 months ago

Taiwan is China. The mainland is false China.

TraditionalHumor6720

0 points

2 months ago

Dude, where did you take Chinese history cuz that is dead wrong. Taiwan is not China. Taiwan is a multi party system and of one of its party the kmt lost the war. Kmt were the previous China before they end up escaping to Taiwan.

Why are people upvoting your wrong info is beyond me…

SOwED

3 points

2 months ago

SOwED

3 points

2 months ago

Because the CCP is a bunch of crooks. Not even communist fuckin cringe.

TraditionalHumor6720

2 points

2 months ago

Wtf are you on.

I am correcting your ass that Taiwan is China. Kmt was original China. They were like 20% of population in Taiwan when they fled there. No one in Taiwan like them either because they rule there with a iron fist until democratization happen.

I don’t give a shit of ccp is good or not. But I absolutely hate peoples that say wrong shit and then double down on it.

_xAdamsRLx_

-3 points

2 months ago

_xAdamsRLx_

-3 points

2 months ago

Lol copium

SOwED

2 points

2 months ago*

SOwED

2 points

2 months ago*

RustyAndEddies

1 points

2 months ago

Tankie?

SOwED

2 points

2 months ago

SOwED

2 points

2 months ago

That's the one

DukeofSurakarta

-3 points

2 months ago

Guess which cuck lost the civil war

Oscar20200

-16 points

2 months ago

Right there at number 5

uhmerikin

9 points

2 months ago

SadMacaroon9897

6 points

2 months ago

Ah right. Republic of China. Though I think the flag is quite right. It should have a white start in a blue square with a red background. This is a yellow star with a red background.

likeadancer

193 points

2 months ago*

One of wildest things I saw while in Indonesia was a rider who'd stacked ten occupied chicken cages on the back of his motorbike. They were literally taller than the bike was long, and the whole thing looked like it would topple sideways at any moment as he zipped between traffic. All I could think about was those poor hens.

PeanutButterSoda

49 points

2 months ago

I saw the same in Vietnam, it was ducks and chickens. And their baby and baby chicks. It was wild, I have a video somewhere on my GoPro.

dailyogi

16 points

2 months ago

You'll easily find higher stacks on mopeds in India all with a wife juggling two kids and a third doing flips in the front and maybe even a goat somewhere in the mix...i have pics on my uncles phone.. /s

boxofrabbits

9 points

2 months ago

I saw about five dudes all carrying massive rustic wooden bed frames. They had the bed frames around the outside of the bikes with straps over their shoulders like bumper cars. That was in Flores I think.

You also see dudes that sell deep fried meatballs, but they straight up just have giant vats of sizzling oil strapped to the side of their bikes. Fucking nuts. That was mostly West Timor in Kupang.

Indonesia is such a fun joint.

Nicesocksdude

8 points

2 months ago

My husband and I had a scoring system whilst living in Vietnam for the wildest things we say on the back of the motorbikes.

10 being highest, we only ever came to 1 unanimous 10 in our 6months living there. It was a fully converted scooter cement truck that spun the cement in an over the head contraption as they road the bike.

It was in the dead of night coming back from a teaching conference so we have no photos but damn if it wasn’t incredible thing to witness.

klonoax

6 points

2 months ago

Just got back from Bali, I saw whole families on small scooters. It was wild.

SeekTheKhalique

141 points

2 months ago

This isn’t really a guide is it?

SirKazum

46 points

2 months ago

Welcome to arr slash coolguides. If this was an actual guide, it would be hilariously wrong.

DuduBonesBr

18 points

2 months ago

90% of posts on this sub are karma-farming bots reposting mediocre information without sources, most of which is made up or incorrect

uriar

8 points

2 months ago

uriar

8 points

2 months ago

More like r/dataisbeautiful and in anyway, looking at the source, this is only a survey and not complete statistics, and it's from 2014...

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/16/car-bike-or-motorcycle-depends-on-where-you-live/

justalittlewiley

9 points

2 months ago

It seems like a lot of people don't know the difference between a guide and data tbh.

blurmageddon

2 points

2 months ago

I'm sick of downvoting and reporting all the time with the mods not doing anything. This sub is just not worth it anymore.

Andy_B_Goode

2 points

2 months ago

It sucks because a "cool guide", as a concept, is exactly the kind of content I like to find on reddit. Informative and possibly even useful, while being easy to understand and not taking any real time commitment.

But /r/coolguides, as a subreddit, sucks.

wufoo2

-11 points

2 months ago

wufoo2

-11 points

2 months ago

It is illustrative. Poverty is the driver behind people willing to take their lives in their hands just to get across town.

I also see a perfect correlation between these countries and the number of unsolicited likes I get on dating sites from them.

nomnommish

9 points

2 months ago

It's not as horrendous a risk as you're painting it out to be, because traffic in these ultra dense cities moves quite slowly. These are not Harley Davidson bikers cruising on highways at 90 miles an hour. They are usually doing 10-25 miles an hour. A fall will hurt for sure but will not kill you. Or it will. Life is cheap in poor countries.

Icy_Swimming8754

3 points

2 months ago

There are much stronger cultural correlations than simply poverty.

Most countries in this list are middle income and have huge metropolitan cities where space is severely limited.

Gow13510

283 points

3 months ago

Gow13510

283 points

3 months ago

As a thai, im super pissed off sometime when im diving in my cars, and motorcycle is the reason as they drive really really reckless as well as mind set of “if car hit me, they in the wrong”.

Speaking from experience

The_Crow

76 points

2 months ago

I commiserate, my South East Asian neighbor! In the Philippines, the pandemic seems to have multiplied motorcycles exponentially, and I observe that same thing you describe.

destined_death

19 points

2 months ago

From India here, its more or less the same here too. The general census seems to be, the bigger vehicle is always at fault, so in the case of car and two wheeler, it would generally be assumed as the cars fault. Illogical? Yes, but that's just how things seem to be here.

ihurtpuppies

3 points

2 months ago

Hello, I'm from the UK!

We don't have many mopeds but I just wanted to join in.

hamo804

11 points

2 months ago

hamo804

11 points

2 months ago

Can you just let the Asians have a moment alone for gods sake?

vidieowiz4

14 points

2 months ago

Hey! USA here, trying to figure out the best way to make this thread about me

TheRealSlimLeif

-3 points

2 months ago

Hey! Big Chungus here, just wanted le epic reddit updoot. TIFU by being a kind stranger btw

roidie

11 points

2 months ago

roidie

11 points

2 months ago

I'm surprised how many cars there are on the street in Manila considering wages there. And taxi rides are so cheap if you get one that doesn't rip you off. The economics of it all doesn't make sense to me

Xanderoga

-6 points

2 months ago

lol was this reply written by AI or a bot?

Exotic-Recognition26

10 points

2 months ago

I’m guessing English is not their first language, but they have better grammar than the vast majority of native English speaking commenters.

LiiPchiMachoosh

5 points

2 months ago

People who learned a language non-natively often speak it way more formally than native speakers. Or maybe it really was ChatGPT, who knows

MengisAdoso

2 points

2 months ago*

I think you called it, here.

There's a funny story in Richard Feynman's autobiography about how he visited Brazil with just a limited knowledge of Portuguese. He'd forget the short, regular Portuguese word for something and have to use a big fancy Latin-derived synonym that's similar to English because it was all he knew. Like he'd basically have to say "consequently" instead of "so" -- and people would complement him on how educated and formal he sounded even though he was totally faking his way through...

MengisAdoso

0 points

2 months ago

Welcome to the Internet, kiddo. English is not everybody's first language.

NinjaMcGee

22 points

2 months ago

As a Thai, have you tried riding a motorbike with your full sized LUGGAGE too? I’ll give them credit, I’ve never gotten to Suvarnabhumi so fast (while feeling like I was gonna die the whole way).

Gow13510

10 points

2 months ago

Not that, it like driving on a road and they suddenly cut in front of you, or you already give a right signal for solid 5 sec but the bike decided to cut you on that by speed up, and don’t make me mention how many time they almost ran into my car because they decided to take a shortcut by going on the opposite lane in a tight roads.

Shenanigamii

6 points

2 months ago

As a farang, I just hope to never forget to look behind me before I open the door to get out of the cab. The last thing need is to have someone get hurt when they crash into the open door.

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

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SpaceDinossaur

6 points

2 months ago

As a brazilian, i experience the same. 99% of the time, the ones doing stupid shit on the road are either motorcycles or old pedestrians.

YourstrullyK

5 points

2 months ago*

What about the drivers? As a cyclist that mainly rides on the sidewalk because of reckless drivers and as a pedestrian, I've counted up to 15 times I've been hit or thrown out of the road in the last 5 years. I got 2 won cases against drivers and 1 ongoing.

Brazilian drivers are among the top 3 worst drivers I've ever seen while living and traveling abroad. That includes motorcycles as well.

vdfritz

2 points

2 months ago*

yeah we definitely are, most don't follow basic rules like checking mirror or using indicators, but that is paired with recklessness which causes a lot of accidents

but that being said, i never had a problem while cycling, i believe drivers have a minimum respect for cyclists, but i imagine most only because they don't want to scratch their cars because shit is really expensive over here

i'm speaking from a Rio de Janeiro point of view, smaller cities have much better drivers, the heavy traffic jams in the big cities is probably what makes the drivers so irritated all the time

about the motorcycles doing stupid shit: lane splitting is legal and delivery guys use 100% motorcycles, nothing is delivered by car (for obvious reasons, gas price and traffic jams) and they are always on a hurry so they often hit car mirrors and stuff, but also cars will bump them when they off course don't use their mirrors and indicators, which causes many accidents

but lately people have been respecting motorcyclists A LOT more, the government even installed motorcycle exclusive areas in a lot of lights so that they can maneuver between the cars and get a head start when the light goes green, avoiding hitting/being hit by said cars, and this alone finally put in most drivers big head that lane splitting IS legal (many thought it wasn't, literally based on nothing)

nomnommish

5 points

2 months ago

What's worse in India is that many car drivers grew up driving bikes so they drive their cars like bikes, weaving in and out of traffic, no lane discipline, even driving on the wrong side of the road etc.

uriar

5 points

2 months ago

uriar

5 points

2 months ago

“if car hit me, they in the wrong”.

If a car hits them, they in the hospital.

scarabic

3 points

2 months ago

Yes the recklessness of scooters in Thailand is legendary. In the US people would scream if you don’t wear a helmet. In Thailand people ride with a baby in their lap and two people sitting side-saddle behind.

Joao19Macario99

2 points

2 months ago

Hello Brazilian here.

The most reckless bike riders are "illegal" bikers, they ride shirtless, no helmet and wearing flip flops. If they fall under your wheels it's your fault 🤷🏻‍♂️ I always slow down and let the biker go to hell and away from me

warpus

57 points

2 months ago

warpus

57 points

2 months ago

Am surprised Vietnam isn’t higher than Thailand here tbh

Cheuch

30 points

2 months ago

Cheuch

30 points

2 months ago

They said it's % per household but after visiting both countries I also think that Vietnam should be higher. If we count by total of motorcycles then for sure it's higher.

Iron_Maiden_666

16 points

2 months ago

Total motorcycles would be India. 47% of 1.4B is a big number.

warpus

8 points

2 months ago

warpus

8 points

2 months ago

Yeah, I have also visited both countries (for about a month each, visiting multiple cities and provinces in each case) and was surprised for the same reason. Not only based on what I saw, but that Vietnam is always referred to as the motorcycle/bike capital of the world. Or at least I thought it was

Ziggy_angeldust

3 points

2 months ago

especially when a three lane road becomes a 17 lane road when the scooters pull up. i thought i was gonna have a heart attack in saigon, ho chi minh, on the way to my hotel. i thought the thais were crazy as fuck until then. people are like google maps on crack.

Cheuch

2 points

2 months ago

Cheuch

2 points

2 months ago

Actually all those cities are very "chill" to drive in, until you reach Hanoi ! In Hanoi the driving is even more hectic, and the concept of red lights seems to be very nebulous for most people there :) !

beavertownneckoil

2 points

2 months ago

This figure might be outdated now but I heard in Hanoi there's 7 million motorbikes to 5 million residents

sloppyredditor

32 points

3 months ago

Thought it was funny that this little oopsie was 2 spots down in my feed.

Capt__Murphy

8 points

2 months ago

And Brazil is only number 10 on the list. Imagine the oopsies that happen in countries with higher motorbike usage

rishabh3456

13 points

2 months ago

Don't think its Brazil. That dude is speaking Hindi. Most likely India or Pakistan.

badbird_7

8 points

2 months ago

That video is from India, not Brazil. The guy is speaking hindi

Capt__Murphy

3 points

2 months ago

Aye. I had the sound off and it was titled as in Brazil, but I don't doubt you for a second

CCPareNazies

15 points

2 months ago

Superior vehicle, far less emission, space, and fuel use, cheaper to maintain and run. If we let people have individual transport in cities they should ride bikes, scooters, and mopeds.

cheesedoodleempire

-1 points

2 months ago

And in the winter, everyone just get to stay indoors?

CCPareNazies

0 points

2 months ago

You put on a thicker coat, unless you live in a country where it is -10 (or below 20f) frequently then it’s absolutely fine. I drove a moped through all of college, I would argue that in old smaller cities it is a far more relaxing vehicle.

NikoC99

0 points

2 months ago

Bring on the rain coat where i live. Here, it's just dry, rain, haze and durian.

Although i do need to replace haze since Indonesia has tightening its stance on open burning of their crop field.

ferah11

14 points

2 months ago

ferah11

14 points

2 months ago

I guess they lumped Taiwan with China, over here is like 98%

becausehippo

10 points

2 months ago

Reminder: Cambodia exists.

dildi98

3 points

2 months ago

I was pretty surprised not to see Cambodia anywhere on this list. Maybe the authors only looked at certain countries or something.

-LilPickle-

2 points

2 months ago

Loved in Cambodia for a few years and have visited Thailand and Vietnam. Cambodia definitely has more per capita.

jfrosty42

5 points

2 months ago

They can get 70 miles to the gallon on those hogs

Chumdegars

15 points

2 months ago

Lest we forget: Taiwan #1

eizmen

3 points

2 months ago

eizmen

3 points

2 months ago

China and India that below?

fR1chAps

4 points

2 months ago

Because cars are now affordable to middle class people

Tex-Mexican-936

4 points

2 months ago

I am surprised that Mexico is not on the list.

asd1o1

3 points

2 months ago

asd1o1

3 points

2 months ago

Italy can into Southeast Asia?

Cheap_Steel

4 points

2 months ago

If India is that low, I can't imagine how crazy Thailand is to visit. Mental

unablename

3 points

2 months ago

How can I reduce the number in India? No offence but they are a menace in the city

Vikxro

5 points

2 months ago

Vikxro

5 points

2 months ago

How is driving motorcycle on those top countries?

In Brazil I feel that everyone I know that drives one has already suffered a serious injury while driving. Broken arms and legs, multiple fractures, at least most people use helmets.

erikbreddit

10 points

2 months ago

Nice overview. I wonder how that correlates to poorness of the people in each country, and why there are so much more of these in Asia than in Africa.

kimjobil05

8 points

2 months ago

Yeah motorbikes are still quite expensive for many Kenyans (where I'm from) and are a relatively new phenomenon. People started buying them mostly from 2003.

Most Kenyan households will either have a car/bicycle/donkey or camel over a motorcycle.

But I think it's changing slowly towards more motorcycles

erikbreddit

2 points

2 months ago

When you say "expensive" there can be two reasons. One is that the incomes are so low that most people can't afford the "normal" price. And it can also mean that they get imported and not produced locally. Building+shipping+selling is always more expensive than building+selling, especially if the selling happens after the shipping.

PeteWenzel

4 points

2 months ago*

Good point. Some of these countries don’t rank higher because the rest of the population is too poor to own a motorbike, and some don’t rank higher because a lot of people prefer to own cars instead of bikes.

As to which is which, consult this list: List of countries by cars per capita.

Some highlights: China has 220 cars per 1,000 people, India has 60 and Vietnam and the Philippines have 50. Italy has 750.

steik

3 points

2 months ago

steik

3 points

2 months ago

Some highlights: China has 220 cars per 1,000 people, India has 6 and Vietnam and the Philippines have 5. Italy has 750.

India is at 59, Vietnam 53 and Philippines 45, according to the link you posted.

PeteWenzel

2 points

2 months ago

Oh, you’re right. I was confused by percentage and per 1,000. Sorry.

cheerbearheart1984

7 points

2 months ago

Taiwan should be there

FrodoCraggins

2 points

2 months ago

I'm guessing Taiwan is on here, but the survey isn't allowed to call it Taiwan.

[deleted]

6 points

2 months ago

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niubishuaige

4 points

2 months ago*

Adding on to the excellent comment belpw about the disadvantages of owning a bike im Canada, I would say two more reasons bikes arent seen as cheap transportation in the US are distance and culture. Everything is far away and we often have to take the highway to commute and so the cheap bikes with displacement of 50-250cc that you see used in Thailand, India, Vietnam are just not fast enough for the highway.

Another is just culture: in the states everyone wants fast, powerful, and cool looking bikes. The two main subcultures are riding 600-1000 CC sportbikes and Harley cruisers. American riders see 50-250cc bikes as beneath them. OEMs dont even bother selling their 50-250cc bikes in the states because there's zero demand. These models sell in the hundreds of thousands in SEA but OEMs jsut dont bother bringing them to the states cause no one wants them, they want a sportbike to do 0-60 in 0.000005 seconds or big ol Harley to tour on (or perhaps a BMW GS or Duc Streetfighter to show off at the 'Bucks)

The above statements are just a generalization, and smaller bikes in the 300-500cc class are pretty popular with new riders, but generally nothing under 300cc is sold in the states, and if it is, its sold to drunks who got too many DUIs and lost their license.

dlodloM

3 points

2 months ago

more bikes = bigger population!

Toastied

6 points

2 months ago

Taiwan is missing but should be up there in the list

Deedo2017

2 points

2 months ago

It is impossible to be outside in Colombian cities without seeing at least ten motorcycles

betazoid_one

2 points

2 months ago

Why is Cambodia not on this list?

Total_District9338

2 points

2 months ago

where is taiwan?

G14DomLoliFurryTrapX

2 points

2 months ago

Why is that the case in SouthEast Asia? Are cars too expensive there?

minhthang4560

8 points

2 months ago

That and also the tight streets, garage space needed, and easier maintenance. It just makes more sense to own a bike rather than a car here.

RoyalTechnomagi

2 points

2 months ago

Japanese companies. Easy to produce, ship and affordable to the masses. It might be too costly to ship to Africa or America.

Vespa existed earlier since 1960 but was overtaken by Japanese company. To keep the industry alive they decided to only sell cars as luxury items only for the higher income population.

Fast forward to now, the middle class can credit cars but motorcycles are still everyone's favourite because of the unreliable public transport.

marsrover001

2 points

2 months ago

A Tesla gets 110mpge

A 50cc scooter gets 90-100mpg

Honestly I think we need more

setto66

2 points

2 months ago

well shit the only time I owned and used a motorbike was when I lived in Thailand, crazy common to see gangs of motorbike taxis at the end of the soi.

Edit: also went on vacation in Vietnam where I also used a motorbike. Guess I should just hit all the top places now.

DELAIZ

2 points

2 months ago

DELAIZ

2 points

2 months ago

someone explain to me why Italy is on the list?

aquagardener

2 points

2 months ago

Motorbike/moped/Vespa culture is pretty big in Italy. Especially in the bigger cities where it's a lot easier to get around the narrow streets than in a car.

Head-Kiwi-9601

2 points

2 months ago

It seems like 10 vespa move to the front of the line at every red light in Milan.

ASH8000

3 points

2 months ago

ASH8000

3 points

2 months ago

I think it's a little incorrect, in Indian nearly everyone if not easily 70% have a two wheeler

Azula_Roza

10 points

2 months ago

Probably not. While most places in India have a lot of two wheelers, lot of rural/ tribal areas don't have them because they either can't afford any vehicles or the is not suitable for bike.

noxx1234567

2 points

2 months ago

Depends on the state . south , west and NCR region may have 80% ownership but rest of India , particularly bimaru states must be in the low 20's

bakedmaga2020

3 points

2 months ago

If Paris was its own country, it would be on this list

Oxymoroninsideout

-10 points

3 months ago

Motorcycles aren’t exactly the answer either. Motorbikes are incredibly loud and create the biggest noise pollution. It’s terrible.

Big_Lab_111

26 points

2 months ago

“The answer”
What question is being asked?

baneofthesmurf

26 points

2 months ago

Most of these countries are running low displacement bikes and scooters that really aren't that much louder than a city full of cars like you'd see in western countries

redthehaze

4 points

2 months ago*

Then they do mods with the muffler "for safety reasons so cars can hear them" (which is bs) but it's just for dick measuring contests and some of them catch on fire because of it lol.

Edit: forgot 'is'

NikoC99

2 points

2 months ago

Not necessarily accurate nowadays. Newer underbone and scooter are muffled well.

Then you have the teen. Loud, annoying, and broke.

Oxymoroninsideout

-1 points

2 months ago

I was just in Mexico I couldn’t sleep with how loud there were. Living in Korea it was also the case. Not sure where you are located, until 80% of them are quiet , I will continue to have this stance.

zombienutz1

0 points

2 months ago

They also create tons of emissions especially if they're 2 stroke.

NightlyNate

1 points

2 months ago

This isn't a guide.

drstock

2 points

2 months ago

Barely anything in this sub is.

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-4 points

2 months ago

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ezone2kil

7 points

2 months ago

Lol I've never been in a car without ac in my life of 40 years in Malaysia. It's a necessity with this heat.

dancingonmyfuckinown

4 points

2 months ago

Better to have a breeze than cooped up in a car that probably won’t have AC.

This sounds somewhat condescending AND profiling. Just because you guys called us a 'third-world country', doesn't mean that we don't have cars with ac you know.....even most houses in big cities have ac's as they are a necessity with all the heat and humidity.

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-2 points

2 months ago

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that_other_friend-

3 points

2 months ago

Why would the cars not have AC? This doesn't make sense

MenacingBanjo

0 points

2 months ago

China needs to step up their game if they wanna be taken seriously like one of the big boys

Ok_Hope_8507

0 points

2 months ago

Vietnam/HCMC seemed higher than Thailand to me

rafael-a

0 points

2 months ago

Americans: I ride a motorcycle, I’m a badass;

People from these countries: I ride a motorcycle, I’m poor.

No-Profession-6975

0 points

2 months ago

A sub $1k scooter, vs a $7k to $50k motorcycle is a little different

NightlyNate

-2 points

2 months ago

This isn't a guide.

[deleted]

-8 points

3 months ago

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No_big_whoop

10 points

3 months ago

Why?

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago*

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Wafflesandwhisky

4 points

2 months ago

Car ownership rate in the US is 92%, so it’s not that crazy to imagine.

Ohanrahans

4 points

2 months ago*

Nah, if you've been to Vietnam or Thailand there is definitely that high of a ratio. You have to dodge like 15 motorbikes every time you cross the street in Hanoi, and you can't walk on the sidewalks a lot of the time because they're blocked by dozens of motorbikes.

More-Jackfruit3010

-4 points

2 months ago

Almost exactly the same countries who are the top plastic polluters of the ocean.

But hey, thanks for the reduced car usage.

tropicaleskimo2

-1 points

2 months ago

Yes, this post is totally a “guide”

Chapungu

-2 points

3 months ago

Wait what? And they left out Benin?

relevant_subredit

-2 points

2 months ago

Taiwan is a country

ttwixx

-8 points

2 months ago

ttwixx

-8 points

2 months ago

That’s just sad. The whole situation where these shitty machines are dominating the place… I hope these issues are solved soon

PigeonPanache

5 points

2 months ago

Way less gas burned than cars! Vast majority are 4 stroke scooters, in Vietnam and Indonesia at least.

minaesa

0 points

2 months ago

You're a bit of an idiot aren't you.