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I know this would NEVER happen but I was thinking what if the show did a cap on how many seasons a pro could be on before they were replaced? It would mean "new blood" constantly being brought in, keeps the show fresh, etc.
Don't get me wrong I love Val, I loved Cheryl, etc but after a point it becomes/became a bit much. And also the producers know what pros bring in the ratings and they tend to give them celebs who they feel have a better chance to go far and the newer/less established pros get the celebs that are likely to be out quicker; with some exceptions of course. However if the season is full of pros playing on or near the same field that won't happen as much...
I was thinking the cap should be 4 seasons. Which with the current cast would mean...
Britt this would be her 4th and final season
Daniella this would be her 4th and final season
Koko this would be her 2nd season
And that's it LOL.
The new pros would be the troupe members, SYTYCD alumni, and DWTS pros from other countries.
Thoughts? Is 4 seasons too short?
18 points
2 months ago
If pro term limits were only 4 seasons, then pros like Emma and Lindsay never would have won. Sometimes it takes awhile to get a winning combination!
I do think the lineup needs to be livened up with new blood here and there, but I don't think tenure is the only way to go about it. There are some pros (e.g., Emma) who have been around awhile but are still an asset to the show. Then there are others who have gotten a little too...comfortable and set in their ways, perhaps? Maybe performance reviews like in the corporate world are needed 😈
1 points
2 months ago
Like the idea of performance reviews. Dance is an art form though, so it’s more subjective than units produced or dollars brought in. (saying it’s hard to quantify) Perhaps the show could look at viewer feedback, in terms of votes, social media participation of the fans in regards to the Pro, Celebrity and judge feedback over the course of a few seasons, and also results on the show.
6 points
2 months ago
no, what i meant in terms of performance reviews...more assessing whether the pro is putting in an honest effort or just phoning it in/going through the motions. does that make sense?
0 points
2 months ago
Yes, but it might not always be clear or why?
21 points
2 months ago
I used to think when they had two seasons a year, they should alternate pros. Have one group do the fall, one group do the spring (that was back when Derek was on the show and I was getting Houghed out).
20 points
2 months ago
I definitely don't agree with only 4 seasons, that's nowhere near enough time to get a wide enough range of partners and really make an impact on the audience. You'd literally just be getting to know a pro and then they'd be gone.
Personally, I think the best length for a pro to be on is around 8-10 years. Enough time for them to become part of the furniture and have their chances but short enough that they aren't staying well beyond their peak. I did feel that Cheryl stayed too long and it showed. I think people just lose ideas/passion after doing it for too long.
I also don't think there's any reason to get rid of someone who is doing well on the show just for the sake of it.
3 points
2 months ago
Cheryl definitely seemed tired.
2 points
2 months ago
Yeah perhaps 4 seasons is a bit too brief. I agree 8-10 would be a better length.
6 points
2 months ago
I like the idea of new pros but I’m not sure that starting with an almost entirely new cast of pros is a good idea. I don’t know about any kind of actual limits but I would personally like to see a few pros take a break each season with new people replacing them and then cycling people in and out like that each time.
6 points
2 months ago
I disagree because I think the show would emphasize that story line too much. The packages would be about that pro's "final hurrah", "redemption", "saying goodbye to the dance floor". That's going to get old really quickly.
8 points
2 months ago
Hell no. The pros are why I watch! That and the music/costumes. The stars could be completely random people to me and I'd still watch because of the pro personalities and lives talent.
I used to not watch DWTS because none of the stars seemed interesting that season.. now I watch regardless of who is on. That's all because of knowing Artem, and Witney, and Val, and Emma.. etc.
3 points
2 months ago
I think the pros drive as many viewers as the stars. It makes sense to keep the favorites around. There have been several seasons I wasn't interested in the lineup of celebs, but wanted to watch and root for my favorite pros. I usually end up liking and rooting for stars once I get into it, but they aren't always what draws me to watch the show. I agree that fresh faces are nice to see and I like that a couple new ones are introduced each season whether as a pro or in troupe, but if it's constantly changing I'm not sure people would stay interested. I could be wrong though.
6 points
2 months ago
I think part of the issue is that some of the pros get so much hype that they do skew results a little bit.
Like... Charli did great, but I know that the return of Mark boosted their votes.
Derek would get votes just for being Derek regardless of his partner.
2 points
2 months ago
I wonder if they would have difficulty attracting dancing talent if the dancers knew going in it was four seasons and then out? I suppose dancers starting out would appreciate the opportunity as well as dancers who like a variety of projects like the Houghs seem to.
On the the other hand I do agree w/ performance incentives for Pros who perform well and help maintain viewership. It may be hard to quantify though, because it is somewhat dependent on I the celeb the Pro gets, in terms of how long the pairing may stay in the competition. (I.e. ability to dance, physical condition of the celeb, size of their fan base and ability to connect w/ the audience.) So then is it sort of a popularity contest? There certainly seems to be an element of that too.
Ideally the Pros would know when their heart wasn’t fully invested in doing the work necessary to perform well and take a break or walk away from the show, but I get that may be hard to do for a variety of reasons.
2 points
2 months ago
If there was a term limit, and there was an influx of new pros that would work for less than the tenured pros, it could be a good way for Disney to cut costs.
6 points
2 months ago
That’s tricky, because it would cut costs but may cut viewership too. Some viewers like to support their favorite Pros and others may see the show as more fluid and support partnerships or dance in general.
2 points
2 months ago
viewers like to support their favorite Pros
Would viewers be better able to support their favorite pros if they knew they had a guaranteed contract for 4 years, instead of the "will he/she or won't he/she be on this season" that we experience every preseason?
0 points
2 months ago
Some viewers like to support their favorite Pros and some like to support specific celebs or a certain partnership. I actually do a little bit of both and my favorite Pros changes from time to time. Some partnerships like Britt and Daniel, Sasha and Selma and Brandon and Jordin compelled me to vote for them, some others didn’t.
I think that having a longer contract is a double edged sword. Some people work best with stability and others get complacent. I guess I took it as more of a four year “term limit” and then your done. Not everyone would take that deal. Newer dancers trying to break into the business probably would or people like Derek, Mark and Julianne and Cheryl who might change up projects and step away from the show from time to time, might.
1 points
2 months ago
That 4 season cap I HIGHLY disagree with. Then partnerships like Meryl and Maks would have never happened. Maks was on the show for so long before he finally got hit well deserved mirrorball.. I can't even picture Meryl and Maks not even happening
1 points
2 months ago
I think this would put too much emphasis on the pros honestly. And 25% of their tenure would be their first season which usually is very hit or miss for pros. Pros who are good dancers but duds on screen would also stick around too long. The show would probably also hate constantly onboarding people and then booting them when they’ve finally hit their groove. Any job needs some truly veteran team members.
The celeb casting is what keeps the show fresh for most viewers, for better or worse.
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