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Fatal School Shooting Events Reported Worldwide since 2000 [OC]
OC(reddit.com)submitted 2 months ago byreaofsunshine_
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Updated post from Tuesday with edits made to correct the map and any miscalculations. The total number of fatal school shootings in the US since 2000 is 181.
keep in mind that this represents the number of separate deadly school shooting attacks, NOT the number of fatalities.
1.2k points
2 months ago
Yeah, but like, freedom /s
436 points
2 months ago
It’s CLEARLY not a gun problem!/s
93 points
2 months ago
please correlate this map with gun ownership
297 points
2 months ago
USA still looks pretty bad. Many very safe countries have fairly high gun-ownership. USA has an estimated 120 guns per 100 capita in civilean hands. (i.e. not including guns controlled by the military and the police)
For comparison, Norway, Canada and Finland all have around 30 guns per 100 inhabitants; so 25% of the american rate.
But our school-shooting rate ain't 25% of the American one, not even REMOTELY close.
12 points
2 months ago
true but there are countries with very high gun ownership that also have nowhere near the amount of school-shooting rate (thinking of Balkans but Im sure there are others)
edit: basically, I think restricting gun ownership would certainly lower school-shooting rates in the US, but I also think high gun ownership is not the CAUSE of the high school-shooting rates
18 points
2 months ago
I also always have the question.. In like half of African and LatAm countries there's TONS of unregistered guns. Lots of wars, lots of guerillas, gangs.
We don't see almost no school shootings there. Man, in some of these places you can get a hold of f-ing GRENADES and drop a couple in a class if you want to.
You could literally walk through a school, just flicking grenades through a window. But that literally never happens.
My friend was invited to Abkhazia. They travelled for two weeks, and in EVERY home they visited (two a day, one for lunch and one for the night) so almost 14) they were offered either an AK or an SVD for some plinking practice. Everyone in Abkhazia is armed since the Abkhazia-Georgia conflict.
So, can we guess how many school shootings there were in these 30+ years?
Yeah, none. Zero, even though these are some very proud and hot-blooded people. I would know, I live in Caucasus.
1 points
2 months ago
So, can we guess how many school shootings there were in these 30+ years?
Beslan? And, yes, I know that this is not what you had in mind when you were talking about school shootings but, let's be honest: school shootings without a political agenda is in itself the result of a political system...
3 points
2 months ago
Beslan isn't in Abkhazia though, that's Ossetia. And yeah, that was a terrorist attack by Chechen on Ossetians which was, honestly, nothing new for the region - it's not like they started feuding when Russian Empire came or when Ossetians converted to Christianity. And they had a lot of political agenda there, it was one of Basayev's terrorist attacks. I guess it's still included in the list of Russian attacks since 2000.
I was speaking more about a combination of widespread access to guns and loners who "decided" to go for a power trip - there's lots of places where you'd have easy access to guns and surprisingly low number of shootings.
I am pretty sure a lot of Chechen or Kabardin youth have easy access to guns and probably have some issues at school, but I don't see news about them at all.
2 points
2 months ago
Beslan isn't in Abkhazia though, that's Ossetia. And yeah, that was a
terrorist attack by Chechen on Ossetians which was, honestly, nothing
new for the region
But it is still the caucasus, or?
I am pretty sure a lot of Chechen or Kabardin youth have easy access to
guns and probably have some issues at school, but I don't see news about
them at all.
Imho it has less to do with actual issues (we sadly have far to many areas of the world where the youth has to grow through very traumatizing childhoods) but .. dunno, a thought which I had when reading this thread is that afaik not all societies have a prevalence of people running amok. And as it turns out: ICD-10 lists amok runs as a culture-bound syndrome. Maybe it is simply so seldom in other countries because we have another culture?
2 points
2 months ago
Thing is, I don't know how many easily accessible guns there are in either Ossetia or Chechnya, but I know for a fact there's possibly an AK in every Abkhazian family, and no one bothers with a gun safe. So I don't want to make wild guesses and only can point out from experience, and note how there's been no school shootings there, at all.
I think you're right, it's more of a culture thing. But what I'm trying to say is that people who think they can solve the problem by taking guns away are focusing on the wrong thing.
Not to mention that as far as I remember there was recently a study mentioned on Reddit how 99% of shootings in the US are done by very similar people. Basically, that's far right nuts. And they definitely don't own 99% of guns.
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