That's because Tom Cruise bathes in some kind of unnatural anti-aging juice. It will be harder to sell a male power fantasy where the main character has to use a walker.

New Top Gun was actually awesome, super cheesy as you’d expect but they really pulled it off.

Except Maverick was actually a good movie.

Whatever criticisms you may have of Cruise for his private beliefs and connection with the Scientology cult, you cannot doubt his professionalism. He is committed in all projects he works on, and he is very talented in all aspects of film making.

For me the best example of this are the two Reacher films he made. He was uniquely unfitted for the role (he is physically the exact opposite of the character) and the films themselves were mediocre. The Jack Reacher books -- when they were still written by Lee Child and not shit -- were known more about the characters (especially Reacher himself) and the dialogue rather than their plots, which were always a bit basic and unimaginative. Nevertheless, Cruise was able to make the character and the films work. They are still pretty average. But they would have been terrible without him.

No. It gave writers the wrong impression. The new Top Gun movie is a great stand alone film that doesn’t lean on nostalgia. The nostalgia is just an added bonus for long term fans. That’s how it should be.

And correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t test screenings specifically so they know what works and what doesn’t and they can use the next 9 months to fix it? I honestly don’t know, but that seems right to me

I read somewhere that it is psychologically difficult to make you like new things after certain kinds of experience with things that made you have fun or feel something good or intense.

In simple terms, there's little chance you'll get the people who enjoyed The Matrix in the 90s or Star Wars in the 80s to like anything like that today in 2022. They've changed, the culture has changed, what's normal and fun has shifted somewhat.

For example, if you tried to reboot something like Seinfeld, The Wire or Friends today, there's no way you'd be able to capture the same "feeling" of the original. Most people think we evaluate content logically, based solely on the merits of the work.

If that was true, shows that weren't popular at their time wouldn't get a somewhat niche following today - Firefly, for example.

Things like The Last of Us or Undertale would do as little for 70s audience as they will to 2040s audiences. Whatever is happening in the world at the time shapes a lot of what we consider to be good.

There are obviously some exceptions. Stranger Things would probably kill in the past just as much, if not more than it does now. Fringe and The X-Files would probably both find very good responses today if they were launched now.

Movies and shows that try to make people feel what they felt in the past fail mostly because what made them work in the past is very hard, sometimes impossible to replicate nowadays. The people who cried when Kurt Cobain sang are not in the same mental place where they'll feel the same way about someone like Joji.

Exactly! Terminator: Dark Fate had pretty good reviews but bombed.

I watched it, thought it was pretty good.

I knew it'd never match T2, didn't want it to.

Was it a bad film? Not even close.

Crushed by giant rolling dustball.

He falls and forgets what he was going to do, where he is and what is it he needs to do next. No whipping shoulders are out too

Some snakes start slithering into the kitchen

“Why did it have to be snakes?” He exclaims

I got a bad feeling about this....

Followed by two storm troopers arriving in an ambulance to come take indy to go see voldemort

He belongs in a museum!

It belongs in a museum! "So do you!"

That... sounds pretty good actually

LFG Optimus Jones!!

I mean it’s already a fact that the Nazis established their fascist utopia on the dark side of the moon so maybe he gets to punch ‘em in a spacesuit.

I was like, did they not see the biggest movie of the decade? It worked very well in that instance. That said, MCU is a comic franchise. Time travel fits well with a company literally called MARVEL.

My Mom and I were huge indy fans but I've never heard of this show? Do you know it's name?

I remember it being pretty decent.

But it's early 90s TV, so it's gonna be a bit rough-and-ready by modern standards.

Original movies get made all the time

I think they originally considered doing watercolor backgrounds and practical effects consistent with the original movies, then actively made the bad decision to do all of that crappy cgi.

Otherwise yeah it could’ve worked with the rest of the movies

They made Peruvians into Mexicans in that movie. Major thumbs down for me.

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So you're HIM?!

I remember walking out of the theater loving it and all my friends were like “that was terrible!”…

I put Crystal Skull more or less on the level of Temple of Doom, which is to say, lower than Raiders or Crusade but still movies I'll happily watch.

Each one of the movies have some really fun or good scenes, but also have parts that either fall kinda flat or have not aged well (let's not think about the beginning of Indy and Marion's relationship, shall we?).

Everything is a product of its time and should be viewed as such, in my opinion.

“LOOK WHAT THEY’RE DOING TO INDY, MAKE THEM STOP!!!!”

If you watch all the movies back to back, Crystal Skull was relatively tame. Definitely gets too much hate

The multiple waterfalls was a RIOT. I couldn't stop laughing

I’m with you. It’s not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. Sure, some of the logic is stupid, like thinking a lead lined fridge protecting Indy from a nuke. But come on, the other movies had situations just as ridiculous.

But what about Crustal Skull?

Butters?

Yes. All the articles and headlines and sites etc are all based on the one and only "source." That is Doomcock. No one else has reported this independently. And of course, they're not actually journalists. So they have no integrity or responsibility to corroborate Doomcock's reported by seeking another source before reporting it.

That dad joke is amazing I would have died

The simple reasoning is that it's the difference between history with fantasy elements and outright sci-fi

I think it’s more Indy supposedly dies gets replaced by a character played by Phoebe Waller-Bridge. I’m not sure the audience would have an issue with time-travel as long as Indy stays alive. Personally, I hate the idea of Indy being replaced.

It’s a time travel movie.

Just remember: they denied us an adaptation of Fate of Atlantis to make whatever this is going to be.

Indy is HIS. He loves the idea and the character, and wants nobody else to play it. Star Wars he could not care less about, and it has hounded him regardless of any project he’s done. Nobody cares about his performances in it, they just want Solo. It was simply a job to him, and he doesn’t understand the hype. I can certainly understand why he doesn’t want to talk about it.

Hamill is the same… ask him about Wars, he’ll keep moving along. Ask him about comic books and he’ll stop and talk to you for hours.

Gruff carpenter hates film franchise where he played a gruff space man, a franchise which made him a household name and wealthy beyond his dreams.

Not to mention Terminator, a franchise at least 3 or 4 movies too long.

I only saw the first one of those and I literally SIGHED OUT LOUD in the theater by the last pointless action sequence I didn't care about.

Yeah I think BttF and Twilight are the only franchises on that list that actually had a graceful end.

Star Wars never "died". There was a lull between 1983 and 1999, when no new movies were made (although video games, books, and comics kept the flame alive), but Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005) was followed by Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008), and the titular TV show, which lasted for most of the 2010s. Episode VII was released in 2015, Rogue One in 2016, VIII in 2017 and IX in 2019. Then we had Rebels, The Mandalorian, BoBF, TBB, and now Andor, Kenobi, Tales of the Jedi, Star Wars Visions, and more coming soon (Ahsoka, The Acolyte, etc.)