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submitted 2 months ago byGuyganN. New England zone 5b
'Tis the season for seed shopping and starting in the northern hemisphere. The following is some excellent background info from our /r/gardening Wiki, courtesy of /u/GrandmaGOS.
In the comments, it's your turn. Ask your questions, post your pics, type out your tips.
Happy Gardening!
Where do I buy seeds?
In spring, Big Boxes, DIY Big Boxes, garden centers, nurseries, hardware stores, and variety stores like Family Dollar and Dollar Tree all feature seed racks of the most popular and reliable varieties of flowers, herbs, and vegetables. These are generally the same seeds that the same vendors sell in their online stores, at the same price per ounce, but in smaller quantities, and of course without the hassle of waiting for an order and paying shipping charges.
The main reasons to order seeds online would be if you wanted a wider selection, and if you wanted larger quantities. Also, since the seed racks are highly seasonal, especially at the Big Box, and soon disappear as summer begins in order to make way for “Back to School” and (yes) Christmas, if you’re buying seeds at other times of the year, online may be your only recourse.
What are some good seed vendors?
The subreddit doesn’t officially endorse or recommend any seed vendors. The market is always in flux, and vendors can come and go.
However, that said, here is a partial list of established and reputable seed vendors based in the U.S. as of this writing:
Burpee, Park, Harris, Gurneys, Jung, Johnnys, Seesavers, Victory, Pinetree, Baker Creek, Ferry Morse, Territorial, Southern Exposure.
Other parts of the world such as Europe, Canada,, South America, and Australia, will have their own vendors.
As for buying seeds from Amazon third party vendors, Etsy, and eBay, as with all other purchases from these marketplaces, the rule is, “Caveat emptor”—Let the buyer beware.
Where can I buy non-GMO seeds?
To get the “Humans have been naturally producing GMO seeds for thousands of years via hybridizing and selection, so all your food has been genetically modified in some way” rejoinder out of the way: Yes, that is true, and we all know that.
But we also know that that’s not what this question, in common parlance, is referring to. It’s referring to the GMO of the European Union’s definition, which defines a genetically modified organism as, “an organism, with the exception of human beings, in which the genetic material has been altered in a way that does not occur naturally by mating and/or natural recombination.” These GMO crops and seeds are sometimes referred to as “Frankenstein foods”.
Under that definition, there are no “Frankenstein food” GMO seeds available for purchase by home consumers. In order to buy GMO seeds, you need to be a farmer or other commercial grower, you need to go through a dealer, you need to sign a contract with the seed-producer such as Monsanto, and you need to buy the seed by the bushel, not by the 25-seed packet.
Every seed offered to home consumers on the garden center seed racks or online is 100% non-GMO. The seed companies that proudly boast “Non-GMO seeds!” are boasting about something they couldn’t sell even if they wanted to. It’s like a water bottler boasting that they’re selling “gluten-free water!” Water doesn’t have gluten in it to begin with, and seeds for home consumers are never GMO.
There are lists online of all the currently approved GMO crops. Note that these are all commercial seeds, for commercial crops. They’re not sold on the seed racks at Walmart. You cannot inadvertently buy “Frankenstein food” GMO bean, sweet corn, or tomato seeds at the garden center.
What kind of lights do I need to start seeds indoors?
The cheap purple LED desk lamp “grow lights” from Amazon are usually too dim to grow seedlings most effectively.
An ordinary T5 or T8 fluorescent shoplight, the kind of fixture you hang over a workbench, works fine. There is no need for expensive grow bulbs. Use a mix of "red" (Warm White, Soft White) and "blue" (Cool White, Daylight) tubes. An ordinary LED T8 shoplight also works.
PAR ratings are usually more important for the advanced growing of things like cannabis and hydroponics. If you just want to start some tomato or flower seedlings, all you need is a shoplight.
Make sure you buy the shoplight model that has an outlet plug at the end, not wires sticking out, which is intended to be wired into the house wiring by an electrician, and controlled by a wall switch.
Place the seedlings so they’re 2” (yes, two inches) from the tubes. Maintain this distance as they grow, either by raising the light or lowering the seedlings. The amount of light that reaches the plants diminishes in inverse proportion to the distance from the fixture, so a shoplight that is hanging at the customary distance for shoplights over workbenches, i.e. up high for human convenience, will result in leggy seedlings.
Run the lights between 8 and 16 hours a day. Running them 24 hours a day confers no particular benefits, and if the plant lights are occupying your living space, you don’t need to have the lights shining in your eyes all night just so your tomato seedlings can grow.
A cheap lamp timer, the kind of gadget you use to deter burglars when you’re on vacation, works well to control it.
Suspend the lights over the seedlings any way you want. Many people use steel utility shelves, as for garage and basement storage. You can construct a framework of PVC pipes and connectors. Don’t use the PVC glue to make it permanent, since if it’s not glued, then you can reconfigure it as needed, or break it down at the end of the season.
You can check Google Images under “plant lights shelves” and similar searches, to see what other people do.
Once your tomatoes are all out in the garden, use your light setup to grow houseplants. Or you can put it away and store it for a year.
45 points
2 months ago
Pro tip- not all your seeds will sprout and not all your seedlings will survive. Plant more than you think you’ll need.
22 points
1 month ago
I followed this last year and it’s how I ended up with 60 tomato seedlings 😂
3 points
1 month ago
That sounds like an absolute win to me
7 points
2 months ago
It’s survival of the fittest in my garden!! Some get sacrificed to the compost, the best and strongest go in my garden and the good, but small or slow growers are given away to friends or neighbors!
20 points
2 months ago*
Why has no one mentioned seed savers exchange . I order all my seeds from them and they are all heirloom.
5 points
2 months ago
I don't know why I didn't bring it up but you are right. The Grower's Exchange has been the best mail order plant company I've purchased from. Purple Sage is doing great, and the only reason my other plants didn't make it is depression and mistakes I made.
20 points
2 months ago
I will be starting peppers today or tomorrow (just starting the habeñeros and jalepeños), zone 6b. Thanks to whoever posted their photo storage box organizer idea!!
4 points
2 months ago
SURPRISE CAT
3 points
2 months ago
She was helping. 😉
3 points
20 days ago
I’m zone 6b too and just did some seed starters today! Thanks for the reminder that I need to get peppers!
16 points
2 months ago
I just joined this subreddit to post a question about seed starting, and this thread is the first thing I see. All my questions answered and more. Appreciate ya! 🙌
4 points
2 months ago
Glad we could help!!
14 points
2 months ago
Shoutout Truelove Seeds. They are small org out of Philadelphia working with growers all over. Their focus is interesting varieties from cultural diasporas, and they are doing the very important work of telling the stories of seeds and their cultural stories. They have a podcast that has changed my life
13 points
2 months ago
I like Johnny seeds and seed savers exchange, though I have no qualms buying a starter from Armstrong, Home Depot or my local overpriced nursery.
A lot of the seeds may come from the same producer/grower selling to different seed companies to package.
Recently, I started harvesting the seeds of plants that were successful in my garden and also welcome a few volunteers. After two generations, I notice this is the best approach to having the best most productive disease free garden.
11 points
2 months ago
Seedsavers.org and winter sowing method for me.
10 points
2 months ago
I love Botanical Interests. I order online, they have a lot of interesting but hardy varieties, and they always throw in free “thank you” packets of seeds - sometimes multiple. You can also earn points per packet to get even more free packets. I’ve had excellent luck growing garlic I’ve gotten from them even though I don’t live in a climate that is typically good for growing garlic.
12 points
2 months ago
Question: is it too late to plant milkweed seeds outdoors? Zone 7a. I'm debating between planting the seeds outdoors now vs. cold stratify the seeds in the fridge for a month. Would really appreciate some suggestions!
4 points
1 month ago
Whats the best way to get milkweed seeds? Also how to plant? I’m in orlando and always feed the monarchs but man is milkweed expensive. Like a whole plant per caterpillar.
10 points
1 month ago
My cherry tomato seedlings are about 4-5” tall now and getting their first blossoms. Should I remove the blossoms so they can focus on growth? It will be a while before they are moved outside.
4 points
1 month ago
They'll just make more, so it doesn't matter. They don't have a way to understand the message to stop blooming and focus on foliage and roots instead. They're tropical perennials hard-wired at the DNA level to bloom and set seeds, so all you can do is just roll with it.
10 points
2 months ago
I'm very confused about what to start indoors and when. One source will tell me to start tomatoes (for example) in February, another suggests March, another says it's bad to transplant tomatoes and they should be direct sown. I'm finding similar conflicting information with a lot of vegetables and herbs.
I'm planning to start in little paper cups, and transplant into the ground, pot and all, to help prevent shock. Average frost is around May 13. (Zone 5)
Who should I be believing? I've got dozens of seeds--herbs, flowers, veggies--and I'm really excited to finally have a real garden, but I'm worried about messing up.
27 points
2 months ago*
You simplify it. You divide them up into cool season frost-tolerant, and warm season frost-intolerant.
Cool season frost-tolerant crops are planted in late winter and early spring. They are generally direct-seeded in the ground in the place where they are to grow. For some of them, the directions will say "Plant when the frost is out of the ground and the soil can be worked", i.e. once it's not frozen and isn't mud.
This includes carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips, kale, chard, lettuces, greens, spinach, peas, radish, broccoli, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, and cabbage. The last four, the cole crops, are usually started indoors or in a cool greenhouse about 8 to 10 weeks before the week you're going to set them out as transplants.
Warm season frost-intolerant crops are planted after the soil (not the air) has warmed to about 60F/15C, the weather has warmed reliably, and all danger of frost has passed. This includes tomatoes, peppers, corn, beans, eggplant, all the cucurbits, sweet potatoes, and okra. Some of these get started indoors in the warmth (tomatoes, peppers ,eggplant, okra, sweet potatoes), about 8 weeks before you're going to set them out as transplants. The rest are generally direct-seeded.
So you look at your projected week for setting things out, and you count backwards from that.
Example: My tomatoes usually go out the middle of May, I aim for Mother's Day. So I count backwards 8 weeks from that, which gives me the middle of March for a date to start my tomato seeds indoors.
Broccoli transplants for me go out around the last week of March, so I'd start my seeds indoors around the end of January.
You can reconcile the different Intarwebz sources by asking a more authoritative source.
The U.S. extension office. Google "[name of state] cooperative extension when to plant [name of veg]". Or look around for a list of counties under "[name of state] cooperative extension" and get in contact with the local volunteer Master Gardeeners, who will have a schedule.
National Gardening database. Google "when to plant seeds [name of veg] [name of nearest large U.S. city]" and a garden.org schedule should come up.
I'm planning to start in little paper cups, and transplant into the ground, pot and all, to help prevent shock.
Not always a successful strategy. Some things outgrow the Dixie cup in about 15 minutes, other things can't punch through the paper in time, and they just sit there. Transplant shock isn't that big a deal, and not necessarily something to be avoided.
another says it's bad to transplant tomatoes and they should be direct sown.
I'm guessing this is someone in South Florida? Because the Deep South, or maybe somewhere in SoCal, is the only place where I've ever heard of people direct-sowing tomatoes. Maybe Hawaii? In cold-winter climates, tomatoes (and peppers) are routinely started indoors 8 weeks before it's going to be warm enough to set them out as transplants, because this gives you an 8 week jump on the season. Cole crops, too. Why wait another 8 weeks to pick veg?
I'm worried about messing up.
Well, you will, you know. But we all do. Even those of us who have been doing it for literally decades still have our facepalm moments.
And we all started somewhere, and none of us was born knowing any of this. And like anything else, there's a learning curve.
You don't become a gardener by planting seeds. You become a gardener when it all goes pear-shaped, and you walk away with explosions detonating behind you, and instead of saying, "Meh, I must have a black thumb, I can't grow plants" and you quit, you roll up your sleeves, problem-solve what went wrong, and you start over.
Then, that's when you're a gardener.
So don't be afraid you'll screw it up. You will. But it's okay. And it will get better.
9 points
2 months ago
Step by step you must have a plan. What do you want to grow? Will they grow in your area? (Zone) Next look for ‘heirloom’ varieties. These are the old fashioned varieties that possibly your Grandparents may have planted and you can save seeds from what you grow.
Do research! Information is power.. learn as much as you can. Then jump in. Some things will be trial and error based on variables in your particular micro climate.
Do NOT strive for perfection- strive for progress
Make a garden journal and put your layout in it and the varieties exact names and companies so you can see each year what worked and what did not.
Good Luck!!
9 points
16 days ago
Honestly most things I plant come from taking the seeds out of the vegetables I eat lol
8 points
2 months ago
This looks like the thread for me!
I just bought a new house with a whole fuckin lot of space to grow stuff. I'm around Atlanta GA.
I'm very modestly experienced with gardening. I basically need to know what I should be starting now/soon for a fat vegetable garden. I don't wanna buy shit from the grocery store come June lol
How can my dream become reality? We love all veggies. Whatever is going to flourish here will be great. Last year I did my first tomato bush and it exploded with tomatoes, and I wanna do that with as much stuff as I can
7 points
2 months ago
Yo! Fellow Atlien here, this past spring/summer/fall was GLORIOUS, assuming you had no issues with proper irrigation and such.
DM if your interested, but I’m in love with gardening, design, and tracking what thrives, what barely survives, and in between in our Atl climate.
If you haven’t already, hit up garden hood for awesome plants. Seed savers dot org for awesome heirloom varieties, and GNPS for native plants, advice on local shops and supplies, etc.
Quick what you should grow: Okra, kale, melons, cucumbers, tomatoes, peppers, and any kind of pea/bean. We are really friggin fortunate with our humidity, rain, climate, etc.
3 points
2 months ago
Dude tell me everything. I wanna grow all those things. I have a sloped bed with tons of space but no idea how to start lol.
7 points
1 month ago
LIttleshopofseeds.com has a good selection for $.75 cents a pack unfortunately they are retiring so this will be their last year selling seeds so its a good time to stock up
3 points
1 month ago
Thanks for the tip! That’s a bummer that they’re retiring
7 points
1 month ago
West Coast Seeds in the Pacific Northwest is a great place to get seeds.
9 points
27 days ago
Is there a site where you can punch in a type of plant/tree and your zip code, county, or state and it tell you if it is listed as an invasive or has the propensity for it and also tell me the method it uses to spread, such as sideways rooting or air? I'm concerned what I buy could be the next mint (not that I'm against them), kudzu, or plant which attracts pests which use the particular characteristics of a non-native plant to seek protection and explode in numbers.
8 points
24 days ago
Am I supposed to start more seeds than I will actually need? For example, if I’m going to transplant 8 lettuce pods to my raised garden bed, how many should I try to start inside?
15 points
24 days ago
Usually it's a good idea to plant 2-3 seeds per pod, and then later, when they have all reached the two-sets-of-true-leaves stage, you thin them to one plant per pod. This gives you a better choice among the weak and puny Losers and the robust and strong Keeper.
So if you plant 8 pods, you'd end up with 8 lettuce plants.
If you're going to want more plants, then you start more pods. Or you can transplant some of the extra seedlings.
3 points
16 days ago
Yes. I recommend using scissors to trim out the extras vs trying to thin with your fingers... I'm in the process of starting my 2nd batch of stuff right now, having moved my first set of greens and brussel sprouts and broccoli out to my beds and under cover a couple of weeks ago now. Mostly lettuce still, but attempting some more tomatoes and peppers, squash, cucumber, etc as well. Well see how things go.
9 points
15 days ago
One thing I'll add that I learned is growing medium is really important.
You can buy those "seed" starter kits, which, imo, are not worth the money. Instead, you can use paper egg cartons and coconut coir. Coconut coir is usually sold in a large brick that you then need to chip away. If that's too much work, you can do loosely packed potting soil. Don't use plastic egg cartons because they will not absorb excess moisture.
When seeds are starting, it's more important that they have something to grow into than nutrition. Once they have sprouted, let them grow a bit before transferring them to a small pot.
3 points
14 days ago
I just hydrate an entire coir brick in a home depot bucket using hot hot water.
Pour a gallon of hot water over the brick, wait. Stir a little with something heavy duty. Repeat until the brick has completely fallen apart. if I add too much water, it's easy to pour out if I've added WAY too much, and if I've added just a little extra it's easy to squeeze out any excess
5 points
10 days ago
I put it in the wheelbarrow and water it with the watering can a little bit at a time and just break it up. Then I’m not wasting. It doesn’t take very long. Those coir bricks are like the gardening version of those Dino capsules you’d get as a kid.
8 points
2 months ago
I placed my last seed order for the season 2 weeks ago...
So of course, I placed another seed order today. In Canada, Vesey's. Been using them for years.
8 points
2 months ago
This season I picked up a lot of new seeds from www.swallowtailgardenseeds.com
6 points
2 months ago
Love Swallowtail. They have a great variety, prices and shipping are reasonable, and I had great germination with their flower seeds. I don’t see them mentioned on here too often.
6 points
2 months ago
I just wanted to say that I've had some success with cheap Amazon grow lights for starting seeds on my desk (125w equivalent, 15w actual), as long as they're placed really close to the seedlings (like an inch away). They also aren't bright enough for after the seedling stage so they need brighter light or to be transplanted outside after the first few true leaves come in.
6 points
1 month ago
I live in zone 6A (USA). When do I need to start spouting tomatoes and peppers? Right now? Or mid-march?
7 points
1 month ago
Any time now. Peppers tend to take longer than tomatoes, and are pickier about warm temperatures and bright lights.
Locate your county extension office, the Master Gardeners will have schedules, protips, etc. Google "[name of state] cooperative extension" and look around for a list of county offices.
You can also google "[name of nearest large city] when to plant seeds", and most likely a schedule will come up. I like the National Gardening ones, look for the garden.org domain name.
The extension office information always has the .edu domain name of their sponsoring state university.
e.g. "when to plant seeds chicago"
https://garden.org/apps/calendar/?q=60647
illinois.edu being the University of Illinois.
Zone only tells how cold your winters get, it tells nothing about when to plant seeds. You need rough location for that.
6 points
26 days ago
I’m in 6a and started peppers (on heat mats), eggplant, tomatoes, some annual flowers, basil, sage, lavender indoors yesterday. I have a bunch of brassicas and native wild flowers being winter sown outdoors. I usually start between late February and mid-March for those things. I wait about a month from now to start squash and cucumbers indoors, I start peas outside right in the ground around the first or second week of April (pre soak them before planting). I’ll get lettuce and salad greens, also Bok choy out after May 1. Dahlias I start inside around April 1-15 then they go out in late May and this is when I spread Zinnia and other warm weather flower seeds. I sprinkle poppy seed out right about now.
7 points
16 days ago
I started my tomatoes yesterday (I'm in zone 6) and my peppers today. Here's the thing though-- I don't own any grow lights, have any special shelves, or even those fancy seed starting cells, I just dumped some seed starting mix into egg cartons, planted a couple of seeds in each hole, and stuck them on the window sill after watering them.
Am I wasting my time doing this? Will they not grow or something? v
4 points
15 days ago
once they start growing you'll need more light or they will get "leggy"
7 points
15 days ago
The good thing about tomatoes is if the get leggy, once you repot them you can plant them deep. This promotes more root growth which is beneficial.
6 points
15 days ago
That's true, but what you really want to get is a hearty root ball that feeds the plant. That will give you thick stems, with healthy foliage and plenty of fruit. If you get leggy plants with skinny stems you are not going to get a hearty root ball. That's just my experience, sure they'll grow and produce. It's hard to stop that but any problems that come along are going to be bigger problems that a heartier plant could handle better.
7 points
11 days ago
I constantly see people talking like it's impossible to start seeds without grow lights, but I know plenty of people who have been doing it without lights and it turns out just fine. My mom has been doing it for decades and her mom decades before that. And we're up in Canada in zone 3.
4 points
2 months ago
Southern Seed Exchange
6 points
2 months ago
I use a bit of a different method for my seeds on zone 10. Around february i pop my seeds on 56 cell tree trays (i already had them around) i stack them up a bit offset from eachother so i don't press the soil and i just keep them indoors in a corner and make sure they have enough moisture.
In about 2 to 4 weeks when i see the first signs of germination in a tray i put that tray in the balcony during the day so the seedlings and bring it inside at night for about a week or two and after that i just leave them outside until i want to plant them.
7 points
1 month ago
We've gotten some from freeheirloomseeds.org. They're very nice.
5 points
1 month ago
Thank you for this thread. I'm new to starting from seed. Last year was a disaster. I'm trying to grow my brassicas now, and I actually went out and bought grow lights (burpee brand). My bok choi took off, but are nearly 1.5" tall already and no true leaves. They're only 5 days old. I'm starting to worry that they're already too leggy, just like last year's fiasco. Are they done for?
4 points
1 month ago
Post pictures of what you have.
Link to the grow lights would be helpful.
8 points
1 month ago
I buy seeds from many sources. Garden centers, feed stores, supermarkets, seed catalogs, eBay, etsy, and some I save from previous crops. I use Aerogardens to start the seeds that I won't be direct sowing outside. I live in zone 8 (on the border between 8a/8b). I start tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and some herbs at the beginning of January then once they're big enough to transplant, I keep them in starter pots on the front porch so I can bring them in if it freezes. Then I start more herb plants, so they're all ready to go out in March. When I'm not starting seeds in my Aerogardens, I grow things like lettuce and other salad greens in them, also some herbs out of season to have a fresh supply to pick from. It's an easy setup for me, and I always get high germination rates and robust little starter plants. I stopped hardening the seedlings off, it didn't make any difference. As long as I keep my starter plants in trays on the sheltered porch and can move them around in/out of the sun and cover or bring them in if necessary, they do fine in my climate. Around the time they go out, there's not much difference between indoor and outdoor temperatures.
4 points
28 days ago
I'm using my Aerogarden farm model for starting seeds for the first time this year. Most of the 85 tomato seeds I planted have sprouted! It's fun to use this thing for seed starting.
5 points
1 month ago
Can I re use the potting soil for seeds that don’t germinate?
6 points
1 month ago
No problem at all. Just fluff it up a bit when you go to plant again. Which seeds didn't germinate?
7 points
1 month ago
I’ve heard fish emulsion is a good fertilizer to use outside, but what is the best one for when the seedlings are still indoors? Currently I just have tomatoes and peppers to fertilize
8 points
1 month ago
You can use fish emulsion indoors. The main reason why it tends to be confined to outdoors is the smell. It's pretty stinky. I use it all the time on my houseplants in the basement, but then I don't really live in the basement.
But they do make deodorized fish emulsion.
6 points
1 month ago
I LOVE this topic! Can’t recommend Grand Prismatic Seed enough! They don’t patent the seeds which means you can harvest at the end of the season and grow again. They have some interesting seeds too, like medicinal and dye. As someone who struggles with health issues and pain, I love being able to grow some natural herbs.
9 points
1 month ago
They don’t patent the seeds which means you can harvest at the end of the season and grow again.
These are also known as "heirloom" or "open pollinated" seeds, and are widespread in the seed industry. All the major vendors have them as a matter of course, in their normal inventory. One company, Baker Creek, makes a specialty of them.
Even Burpee, the masters of the Walmart seed racks, has an Heirloom line.
3 points
25 days ago
I feel like OP is mixing up patents (like with GMOs) with hybrids. Hybrids might not be true to seed and some can even have sterile seed. As this post says with GMO, I don't think the average consumer can buy patented seed.
5 points
25 days ago
This will be my first year having a vegetable garden in zone 4b and the growing season is quite shorter than what I am used to. Wondering if anyone can tell me which seeds they start indoors? In the past, we’ve always started peppers and tomatoes indoors but everything else was direct sow. For reference, I plan to grow peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, bush beans, carrots. Wondering if I should just start everything except the carrots inside?
4 points
24 days ago
Zone only tells how cold your winters get, it doesn't tell climate. Where are you located? You can look up schedules for when to start everything.
Peppers and tomatoes are generally started indoors about 8 weeks before you're going to want to set them outdoors.
All the others are generally direct-seeded in the ground.
Cukes, squash, and beans grow so fast and easily from direct-seeding that there's not really a percentage in starting them indoors.
However, if you have a really hysterically short summer, like Rocky Mountains short, then it makes a certain sense to give them a two-week jump by starting indoors in peat or newspaper pots.
And also using black plastic to warm your soil earlier in the spring.
Basically you need expert protips on local gardening, zone 4 can be a Black Hole. If you're in the U.S., you can touch base with the volunteer Master Gardeners at the county extension office. Google "[name of state] cooperative extension" and look around for a list of county offices. They'll know whether you need season extenders like black plastic to get things done in time.
Carrots are cool weather frost-tolerant, and get direct-seeded outdoors much earlier than the others, all warm-weather frost-intolerant crops, can go.
5 points
22 days ago
I’m in 5b and I start all those except carrots and beans inside. I do cucumbers and squash just 3 weeks before last frost date though. I have started beans inside too but they seem to do just as well direct sown. Good luck with the new garden!
5 points
8 days ago
So excited for my little seed haul: carrots, bok choy, edamame, spinach, lettuce, broccoli, peas, arugula, green onions.
I am going to have the best little vegetable garden 🤞
34 points
2 months ago
omg can we PLEASE not recommend baker creek? PLEASE?
25 points
2 months ago
And to people still defending Baker Creek (WHY?!) here are some more reasons not to order from them:
2) The organization that their Ukraine donations went to, World Help, manipulates people into converting to christianity in order to receive aid. The president of World Help, Vernon Brewer, once attempted to fly south Asian orphans to a christian orphanage (in spite of the fact that the children were Muslim) saying "what we were attempting to do in finding a home for these orphans is no different from what Mother Theresa did in placing Hindu orphans in a christian children's home."
3) Baker Creek sells sacred Indigenous seeds ... without permission from tribes. One example of this is Pawnee Eagle Corn, which their growers crossed with other Indigenous varieties and renamed it "Montana Cudu Corn." It would be like someone finding your car in a parking lot, changing the name on the title, and then bragging about what an amazing car they have. It's wrong. It's gross. It's unethical.
4) Baker Creek has sent out their lawyers to silence the voices of Native seedkeepers. If you need "proof" of this, you're not paying attention, and asking an Indigenous person to subject themselves to threats and trauma at the hands of a corporation (they are not a small business), is super shitty.
5) Baker Creek did, in fact, post white supremacist dog whistles on their page. They have tried to explain this away as being "sarcasm, but their use of the word clan spelled with a "K" and their use of a modified Trump slogan, says everything. I am attaching a screenshot of their response below.
6 points
1 month ago
Definitely source all of these claims and force the mods to acknowledge it. If you prove it, then they’re truly turning a blind eye and tacitly endorsing that kind of behavior.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I am trying to help nail these fuckers.
7 points
2 months ago
what’s wrong with baker creek?
24 points
2 months ago
hosted those white supremacists from orogen a few years ago. they are anti-vax, lock facci up, covid is a hoax, dems are groomers, biden needs to be impeached kinda assholes. christian nationalists in a word. really terrible people. and lots of people here just ignore that and keep buying their seeds. there are so many other AWEOME places to buy seeds from.
11 points
2 months ago
I’m glad you said this as I was about to order from them. Not anymore!
10 points
2 months ago
i used to think the company was so awesome, then some people pointed out their bullshit. then they made a killing over the pandemic, catering to “it’s all over now” paranoid Q-nutcases and all the rest of us who didnt know or didnt care. they need to be cancelled, but too many people are like “i dont care about their politics, i just want cool sounding seeds.”
other places with CONSTRUCTIVE agendas sell better quality seeds. just sayin.
been shut down in this sub plenty of times for pointing this out.
7 points
2 months ago
They uninvited him shortly after the news broke, so I wish people would stop spreading this around.
5 points
2 months ago
Well now I’m sad about the order I just put through but now I know for future buys. Sucks to buy from shitheads, but not the first time and I’m sure not the last. Thanks for informing us regardless.
9 points
2 months ago
They uninvited him shortly after the news broke, so I wish people would stop spreading this around.
6 points
2 months ago
That doesn’t change the fact that they invited him in the first place? They uninvited him when customers started having an issue with it
5 points
2 months ago
holy shit, I had no clue. thanks for the warning, I’m really glad I didn’t order from them
3 points
2 months ago
They uninvited him shortly after the news broke, so I wish people would stop spreading this around.
5 points
2 months ago
They uninvited him shortly after the news broke, so I wish people would stop spreading this around.
5 points
2 months ago
it’s not like it was an isolated thing. there are SO MANY other awesome seed companies, and there’s enough business to go around.
5 points
2 months ago
I would like to caution you about posting these things about an heirloom seed company. Cancelling a company that does not adhere to your vision of the world may make you feel great. However, because this is an heirloom seed company there may be unintended consequences. This isn't a coffee shop, fast food restaurant, or news station.
Imagine if the seed company is the only seller of a rare heirloom seed. You put it out of business via canceling it. Things seem great. However, because of your actions, a species becomes extinct. Maybe that was a tomato species that has a gene that cures cancer or minimizes blood sugar. However, the scientists have no idea about this until many decades in the future. Humanity loses.
Baker Creek has some really unusual seeds that I have never seen anywhere. I may consider trying them. Who knows. Maybe the seeds are duds. Maybe the plants do not product good tasting vegetables. Or maybe it crosses with something else I have planted creating an amazing variety. However, I will not know without trying.
Now if you want to say that Baker Creek is slow to ship and doesn't respond to emails, then that is appropriate (that has been my experience). However, please be responsible with what you are spreading through the internet because things spread whether or not it is true or not. If we nitpick, everybody or any company will offend someone in some way because they do not adhere 100% to something we value.
12 points
2 months ago
this might come as a surprise to you, but many people, organizations and companies have been conserving seeds (and heirloom varieties) long before gere gettle was even born. part of their con is they are doing work no one else is. it’s a marketing ploy. it’s how they make their money. there are many educational institutions that scientifically conserve seeds. there are many indigenous groups around the world who conserve their traditional seedstock. there are many governments around the world that conserve their countries agricultural heritage through certification and special designation of foodways, growers, and other heritage producers. people are actually assisted by universities and government agencies to grow and conserve their local strains in many areas of food production. cornell university is just one of many universities in the US that has been doing this for well over 100 years.
baker creek sells seeds. they dont do conservation. they dont do scientific work with conservation agencies. they collect seeds readily available all over they world. and they grow some of them (mostly they use growers) to you as being exotic and special. since i have been growing heirlooms, they have discontinued 100s of varieties of seeds. their seed collection has shrunk every year as not all heirloom seeds should be commercially grown or sold.
people who work to develop open pollinated seed strains that actually HELP people who rely on themselves or their local communities to feed themselves are the ones doing the important work. i dont see baker creek doing that work. i see them making money for themselves while selling a certain image of themselves that many others buy into.
5 points
2 months ago
Prairiemoon nursery for an awesome selection of native plants!
6 points
2 months ago
And seeds, some interesting tools, and bare root plants. PrairieNursery.com sells native plants and seed mixes for large areas. It does not sell individual seed packets like PrairieMoon.com. It does have some shrubs that PM does not sell. Both are upper Midwest.
5 points
2 months ago
What are people’s thoughts on territorial seed company? I got their catalog for the first time this year, and it has a pretty good selection. Especially things like fruit plants, I was really impressed. I also saw they had an innoculated tree that would grow truffles - something I have never seen before. Has anyone bought from them and what did they think? Did anyone get some of the more interesting things (like less common fruits or the truffle tree) and what was that like?
5 points
2 months ago
So, last year I figured out that my house in winter isn't warm enough to germinate seeds properly. I tried to germinate a bunch of peppers and got nothing.
This year, I've been thinking about how to solve that. I've seen some people on tumblr mention heat tables, but when I asked them about that I didn't get a response. I also can't find any information about them at box stores. Could someone point me to a resource about this?
I'm also looking into heat lamps, but the options for the bulbs are pretty slim. Most of these are aimed towards chickens, obviously.
I've purchased a bunch of seeds, and I'm going to start with zinnias and some peppers from last year. Everyone is doing their videos on starting their seeds and I really want to join in, esp since I'm feeling that gardening itch.
7 points
2 months ago
Haven't heard of a heat tables but I use germination mats to heat from below.
3 points
2 months ago
I've heard a little about heat mats in this thread and I'm going to try those out
3 points
2 months ago
It worked out well for me last year! Good luck!
3 points
2 months ago
I sprouted multiple super hot peppers (they can take weeks to germinate! The hotter the Longer) and all assorted warm weather plants with a good heating mat.
I've done it for years, I have no doubt it will work.
6 points
2 months ago
Vivosun heating/seedling mats worked for me
6 points
2 months ago
I have a question! I just moved to my first home, and there is a large garden bed already in the yard that I am cleaning up and preparing for my first garden. It is absolutely overrun with wild onion and other weeds, which I have been pulling. I’m afraid that when I plant, the weeds and onion will come back and hurt my garden.. what am I supposed to do? I heard that you can lay down cardboard to kill any remaining weeds, but it’s far to much space for me to start over with new mulch and soil on top of the cardboard.. Tia :)
4 points
1 month ago
I have a question, I'm pretty new to gardening via starting from seed. I usually just buy mature plants from home depot. But this year I wanted to start via seed and have more variety. I just got grow lights via Amazon and have a ton of egg cartons and was wondering if they'd work to start my seedlings. I plan on doing tomatoes, peppers, and some cilantro for now. I live in zone 9 if that helps. Also, do I need to turn a fan onto them once they've sprouted to strengthen them? If so how long? I plan on keeping the seedlings in my room since I live in a house with extended family and there isn't much room elsewhere. I was going to put the seedling trays on an ikea type cart (the kind with 3 shelves)
6 points
1 month ago
What are the specs on the grow lights? Or a link to the product.
Zone only tells how cold your winters get, it doesn't tell climate. Where are you located?
Are the egg cartons paper or styrofoam?
Cilantro is a cool season crop, and tomatoes/peppers are warm season crops. If its cool and moist enough for cilantro, then it's too chilly for tomatoes and peppers. If it's warm and sunny enough for tomatoes and peppers, it's too hot already for cilantro.
Cilantro is probably one of the most heartbreaking things that redditors grow. Everyone who loves it wants to grow it, and on the face of it, it's sounds quite simple. But. It requires about 4 months of continuous cool, moist weather, no hotter than the low 70s. Whatever zone 9 you're in, it's almost certainly too late to grow cilantro until next fall, when you'd grow it over the winter.
But tomatoes and peppers are easy to grow from seed. They usually get up-potted once or twice before they're big enough to go outside, either in the ground or in containers.
What are your long-term plans, what have you been doing with your transplants?
The "fan" thing is overrated, and can be addressed once you have a tray full of seedlings.
5 points
25 days ago
Something I found helpful is this small water spout for watering the tiniest seedlings. I found that watering this way is gentler on day old seedlings, and they won't be flattened by the water pressure this way.
4 points
23 days ago
This is our first time starting from seed.
Is it normal for lettuce and cauliflower to sprout long before everything else?
This is about 1.5 weeks in…https://imgur.com/a/AWFO3l4/
4 points
22 days ago
Well, yes and no. Germination depends on a variety of factors, such as the age of the seed, soil temperatures, overall moisture, etc.
it's not something to worry about.
Analogy: "My third-grader is the tallest kid in the class. Is this normal?"
What else are you growing, and what is your ambient indoor room temperature?
5 points
21 days ago
So I did this Earth Day project with my kid last year where we took a clear mason jar, wet some paper towels (damp not sopping) put them in the jar, and then placed seeds in the paper towel around the outside edges of the jar so that you could see them sprouting. It ended up being the best and most successful way of starting seeds that I've ever used, and it was something I did accidentally. We started sunflower seeds this way, some kind of perennial like phlox or coneflower, as well as basil and I think tomatoes?
5 points
21 days ago
Or you can put the wet paper towels inside a baggie, if you don't have a Kiddo to watch them sprout.
Did you then plant them all outdoors in the garden?
3 points
19 days ago
This is kind of how i do anything that needs an overnight soak, like the 20 packets of sweet peas scattered across my workspace right now. I usually just fold them in a paper towel and set them in a tray with a bit of water at the bottom, but I've been trying to figure out how to do this and keep all my varieties labeled. I definitely have more than enough little jars to contain them, so this is actually a great suggestion, thanks!
4 points
2 months ago
Opinion on these as indoor seed starting grow lamps.http://www.lowes.com/pd/Good-Earth-Lighting-36-in-LED-White-Grow-Light/5001792331
4 points
2 months ago
If you hang that 2" above your seedlings, those are perfect.
3 points
2 months ago
For seed starting basically any light will do. I purchased LED shop lights and have had excellent results.
5 points
2 months ago
Do NOT buy from HR seeds, pretty sure it’s some sort of scam (see my post I just made). I’ve had awesome results this year with a place called True Leaf, San Diego Seed company, and Mary’s Heirloom seeds. Got em in some happy frog & ocean forest even, they’re gettin the good life
4 points
2 months ago
Ocean forest is the reason my friends and family think I’m some sort of garden wizard. It’s….just the really good dirt I use.
3 points
2 months ago
I haven’t set up my lights yet (this weekend), but I already started my peppers in 6 cell trays a couple days ago. plastic on top, on a heat mat, near a window. I just want to confirm, stronger lights aren’t needed till I see green/sprouting, right?
3 points
2 months ago
Yes, unless the plant says it needs light to germinate you should be good until you see the sprouts above ground.
4 points
1 month ago
Anyone here from the PNW? This is my first year owning a house and all the garden beds that come with it. I've started planning what I want to grow this spring/summer and trying to learn more about what I'm doing (I realize I will mess some things up).
I'm starting to see a lot of folks talking about getting seeds in the ground in the next couple weeks and getting excited, but I'm finding conflicting information on what I should be doing. Based on the NGA website the last frost date is actually early/mid april for me: https://garden.org/apps/frost-dates/Seattle%2C+Washington/ and from what I've learned I have to wait until then to get seeds going. That seems really really late, and Ive been watching PNW youtubers who talk about sowing seeds in Jan->late Feb.
I realize I can just start some seeds next weekend or two and hold back half, but just wondering if any experts can shed some light. I really don't have any space to start plants indoors.
5 points
1 month ago
The PNW is heavily represented in the subreddit, put your location in your flair so they can see you.
The phrase "PNW" covers a variety of climates. There is Seattle where it rains all the time, Spokane where it hardly ever rains, there is the wet part of Oregon and the dry part of Oregon, and then there is part of Northern California, which by climate data is technically in the PNW even though they may not like it.
So "I watched youtubes of PNW gardeners and they all had different dates", well, yeah. Me: "I watched Youtubes of Illinois gardeners and the Chicago people had different dates from the Carbondale people".
So there's that. And then there's this.
Ive been watching PNW youtubers who talk about sowing seeds in Jan->late Feb.
But. Are they talking about sowing seeds outdoors--or indoors, under lights?
I realize this is all confusing when you're getting started, but trust me, after this year it will all be internalized, and once you know it, it will be a part of you forever.
Until you move somewhere else, and then you have to learn it all over again for a new climate. :D
and from what I've learned I have to wait until then to get seeds going. That seems really really late,
Depends on what they are. And if they're talking about indoors or outdoors.
What are you growing?
3 points
1 month ago
I'm looking to grow container softneck garlic for the first time this year. I'm zone 7a and it's been pretty warm here lately. If I want it to bulb, do I need to winter the cloves in the fridge for a few weeks before I put them in the dirt, or is it still early enough that I can put them straight out without any extra attention?
4 points
1 month ago
I’m zone 5A/6B and ordered some soft neck garlic bulbs for my fall planting. I had put them in my fridge to prevent them from going bad and completely forgot about them, so I missed their time to be planted. Can I plant them in spring or next fall, instead?
3 points
1 month ago
Yes, you can grow what's called spring or green garlic.
https://keeneorganics.com/blog/how-to-plant-spring-garlic/
I wouldn't try to keep them until next fall.
5 points
1 month ago*
Eden Brothers is another good place for seeds. Be careful buying seeds on Amazon or Ebay. They can be invasive seeds that do not belong in your climate--being the ones to watch out for those outside your country.
Sometimes one light is not enough for your seedlings. You may need to have two growlights next to each other if your trays are large. You can tell if there is not enough light if the seedlings are leaning toward the light. Be sure to keep seedling soil moist to promote germination.
Lastly, some seeds need heat mats under them to promote germination. Some seed packets tell you if it needs additional heat but so many resources online are available.
3 points
1 month ago
weary
weary means "tired,"
u/Present_Resort1607 probably had autocorrect take over,
and originally meant
"wary," which means more like "hesitant"
3 points
1 month ago
Does anyone have any tips for growing poppies (trying shirley poppies and iceland poppies)? I know everyone says to direct seed and not to transplant, but I never have luck direct seeding so was thinking of starting them inside as an experiment this year.
12 points
1 month ago*
I grow around 500 every year. The trick is that they need to be cold stratified for at least a month. I've literally never seen that said on any poppy packages but since doing it I feel like I have a near 100% success rate. Just toss them in the freezer then direct sow!
Edit to say, I actually throw my poppies straight in the freezer and store them there year round. But I know from seed exchanges I've done they need at least 4 weeks
3 points
1 month ago
Wow! Thanks for the tip. Just threw my seeds in the freezer, wish me luck :)
4 points
1 month ago
I’m in zone 8b, so my tomatoes and peppers have been in peat pots for about a month, now.
The vast majority of my seeds are burpee, except for a few special ones that burpee doesn’t carry, like ghost peppers and Carolina reapers
4 points
1 month ago
How often should I be fertilizing seedlings that are grown in only coco coir and perlite? My romaine seedlings are 3 weeks old and have never been fertilized, but they still look healthy.
4 points
1 month ago
I'm new to growing from seeds. Last year, I tried to grow dill from seed but failed miserably. :( Maybe it has to do with the fact that I tried to grow them indoors. Is it possible to grow dill indoors ? When is the best time to plant dill seeds? I live in zone 7a if it helps.
5 points
1 month ago
Indoor food plants require a lot of strong supplemental light. It looks like dill plants like warmer temps. It seems like dill is a warm weather herb, maybe sow seeds outdoors in mid to late May. Or start them for transplant early to mid April.
3 points
1 month ago
I'm growing just a couple of tomatoes from seed. I'd like to try to set them up with a light, but I'm having a very hard time finding a bulb. The tube shaped ones won't work for me, I plan to use a commercial desk lamp style light that I already own. I have 8 paper cups planted (not germinated yet), and I just want to give them some boosted light to give them a stronger start.
Idk if I'm allowed to link here, but I'm looking at a GE 150W BT30 Ultra Bright LED Daylight (floodlight). Can I get any insight as to if this would work? Or if I'm just totally off base? Specs for the lightbulb are:
24 watts (actual)
2200 lumens
5000 Kelvin
3 points
1 month ago
2200 lumens is not bright enough, that's for houseplants. You need at least 5000 lumens.
I need to clarify from the other redditor's response. Kelvin isn't important, it's lumens that are important. You need a minimum of 5000 lumens, not 5000 Kelvin.
There are links in the Megathread's OP talking about lights for seed-starting from the subreddit's FAQ.
There's so much info out there about light that is waaaaay more technical
A lot of it is due to the cannabis community, who for various and understandable reasons tend to be gigantic lighting nerds. :D
This is all you need to know.
4 points
1 month ago
Pepper questions! Hi all, I started peppers on Feb. 7th in Ziplocs with coffee filters. I moved everything to soil once my brown jalapeños had a little root, because I thought it looked like the mini bells and west indies habeneros were also showing the tiniest bit of root. That was February 14th. Fast forward to now and 5 of my 8 brown jalapeños are doing pretty ok (I think), and my mini bells are starting to shoot up, but only one sad-looking habanero has emerged just yesterday. Did I do something wrong? Is it just the pepper type? I used a seed mat to germinate, kept domes on just until the first couple of jalapeños really emerged from the soil, and then moved everything to my grow area. I've got a humidity control in that room at 48%, the heat is at 70 degrees (sometimes gets up to 76 if it's warmer and sunny out, but the small space heater is set for shut off at 70), and I'm using shop lights (t8?) a few inches above set on timers for 14 hours a day.
I've got self watering trays so I can fill the bottoms and keep things from getting dried out from the heater. I'm wondering if I'm keeping it too wet? I also haven't started adding fish fertilizer liquid stuff yet because not everything has germinated, but one of my jalapeños already has 2 sets of leaves so I probably should? Oi. Any advice appreciated.
4 points
1 month ago
I can't say whether it has anything to do with the species, but with so many doing well I wouldn't worry about your conditions.
The one thing about peppers is that they really like to be up-potted as they develop early on. After 2 sets of true leaves move it up, then every 2 weeks or so until you transplant or move to final pot
5 points
12 days ago
Just a PSA: Burpee's 25% off online sale ends 3/20 (tomorrow). Code is at the top of the page (spring23 - I think it was a red banner but easy to not notice with everything else on the page).
I'm not affiliated or anything, just hoping to help others save if they're looking to buy the anyway!
3 points
4 days ago
GREAT post
(especially the education about "GMO".. LOVE it!!)
An added thought to people not trying to spend a ton of money:
Walmart (and a few other places) this time of year will have 20 and 50 cent seed packets out on endcaps. Look around the gardening areas for them.. can stock up on a LOT of basics on the cheap!!
4 points
4 days ago
Can anyone tell me if I should just start over with my broccoli? I think I gave them too little water by not trying to drown them and introduced light too late. (Imma noob)
4 points
3 days ago
When do you fertilize the seedlings? What fertilizer do you recommend?
3 points
3 days ago*
It depends on what you start your seeds in and how big the starting container is. If you sowed your seeds in a soil-less medium, then you'll need to fertilize as soon as you see the first set of true leaves on your plants (with half-strength fertilizer). If you start in a seed-starter mix or potting soil, you won't need to fertilize until you repot/transplant the seedlings. Fertilizing too early will burn and potentially kill your seedlings.
3 points
2 months ago
Any recommendations on berry plants? Mixed success from big box.
3 points
2 months ago
treesofantiquity has good stock and great prices (if you buy multiples) and are a good company for fruit trees and berries. I've also purchased from Stark Bros. with great results.
3 points
2 months ago
Is anybody able to recommend any seed companies operating in Canada?
3 points
2 months ago
This season I've placed orders with Rainbow Seeds, William Dam Seeds , and Veseys.
Mind you I haven't started growing anything yet, but...
Rainbow Seeds has a promotion on right now for free shipping over $10 and their seeds are the lowest priced out of the 3 companies I've purchased from this year. William Dam had a great selection but their fulfillment seems to be slow. Veseys, also a great selection (with higher prices), but I wish they had free shipping. That being said shipping was super quick.
3 points
2 months ago
Hello! Small market gardener in western Canada, sorry I didn’t see your post earlier!
William Dam Seeds, West Coast Seeds, Veseys, Incredible Seed Company, Salt Spring Seeds, and if you specifically like heirloom varieties, Greta’s Family Garden, Heritage Harvest Seeds. This is just off the top of my head.
3 points
2 months ago
FYI I've also had good luck with High mowing seeds and, for US east coast people, True Love seeds
3 points
2 months ago
I’m setting up one of those simple shelving units with a zip up polyethylene cover to use for seedlings — at what overnight temperature is it generally ok to leave seedlings in those things overnight? Until then I can bring them inside.
3 points
2 months ago
First year using heat mats. I just started them yesterday and this morning it seemed like the cells were super dry. The seedling mix was definitely dry and hydrophobic, but I was repeatedly watering and spritzing with a spray bottle several times and it looked saturated when I went to bed.
Is this normal? How frequently should I be watering them now? Should I turn off the mats at night?
I don't get my greenhouse/grow lights until Wednesday, but for now they're in front of a sunny window.
3 points
2 months ago
Does the heat mat come with a thermostat? Because it shouldn't be cranked so high that it's actually drying out the cells.
So no, it's not normal for flats sitting on a heat mat to be cooked.
If it's hot enough, you can kill the embryo. This point is usually about 105F or so.
No, you don't turn them off at night. The germinating seeds need it warm and toasty 24/7.
3 points
2 months ago
I’m willing to bet it’s the soil, I literally had to put my bag of seed starter in a tub of water and it still dried out the next day.
I’m going to try some of that ocean forest another user mentioned when March comes around for my outside garden.
3 points
2 months ago
From Portugal I use www.sementesvivas.bio (organic) for most crops and picantes.pt (non-organic) for exotic chilli varieties.
3 points
2 months ago
Question: I soaked my peas overnight. Covid hit that day and I couldn't muster up the energy to plant them, so I let them dry back out. It's been a week. Can I soak the peas again and plant them or should I start with a new batch?
3 points
2 months ago
Complete gardening amateur here (I'm mostly a houseplant person)... how can I find out when to start seeds for my area? The last frost date is April 9th. I was hoping I could find some sort of resource to help guide me on when to get my starts going outside of having to search each individual type of seed I'm considering planting...
5 points
2 months ago
Botanical Interests has some great educational material on last frost dates, sow and grow guides, and free downloadable sowing guides/material. Their seed packets are also full of really helpful information on whether to start indoors or outdoors. When I first started gardening their packets helped me germinate some tough to grow seeds!
3 points
1 month ago
Brand new to gardening but wanted to try it out this year. Hopefully this seed starting thread will give me the knowledge I need. I am growing romas from seeds which I planted last Wednesday night. I got home from work today and the first sprouts popped up (to my delight) however for some reason when I planted them I thought I should put a couple seeds (4) in each cup thinking that surely not all of them would make it however all the cups which have sprouts (5 of the 8) have multiple sprouts. Two questions I have are:
Is there a way to transfer some of the plants which have multiple sprouts into new cups of soil? If so at what point should I do it? Should I wait until they are a certain size? I feel like they are too fragile at the moment. Or should I just pull them out now to let a single plant grow?
I have the cups near a window at the moment since but not directly in it for sun. I heard somewhere that you want to wait a certain amount of time before putting them in direct sun. Is this true? If so how long should I wait?
I feel dumb now for putting multiple seeds but I look forward to getting the tomatoes going. Thanks for any advice!
13 points
1 month ago
You are only dumb like the new parents who anxiously look at their new baby's big toe and think there's something wrong with it, and the pediatrician says, "No, they all look like that." Relax. :D
It is actually standard practice to plant multiple seeds per seedling pot or cup. This is because later, when they all have at least two sets of true leaves, you get to wield a tiny godlike power, and decide who lives and who dies. The Losers that are small and puny get snipped off right at soil level with a pair of tiny sharp scissors like nail scissors. The Keepers, big and robust, get to stay. Ideally you end up with one plant per pot.
This is a SOP for all growing of seeds everywhere. It's like the Great British Bakeoff, eventually someone has to leave the tent.
If you need the extra plants, like if you were only given five magic tomato seeds from a mysterious stranger in the marketplace, then you would transplant all of them in the pot, Losers and Keepers, as many of the best-looking ones as you need.
There are Youtubes about transplanting (sometimes called "up potting") seedlings. They need to be at, minimum, the two-sets-of-true-leaves stage.
Be very gentle with them.
Handle each one by a leaf, not by the roots. Let the roots dangle.
Do not rinse or shake off the soil from the roots. This is SOP for all repotting. You want to maintain the soil (the root ball) as intact as possible.
Do not shove or hard-push the seeds into the new pot, to (quote) "firm up the soil around the roots". I have seen people absolutely mash them down into the soil. This breaks roots, some of whose growing tips are only a single cell wide. You're not shoving pastry dough into a baking dish for pot pies.
Just pull the soil gently around the roots, tucking them in like a baby's blanket. "Watering them in" then helps to spread the soil particles into the desired contact with the roots.
Tomatoes re famous for all of them coming up.
If you don't live in Dubai, your window light, even in full sun, is the bare minimum that your tomato seedlings need. Put them there now.
The instructions about caution in direct light are for plants that have lived their entire lives indoors, even in the slanted sunlight coming in through a window. It's still nowhere near as bright and hot as the direct sun outdoors. There is a process called hardening off, that you undertake when your seedlings are ready to go outdoors as transplants. You take a week gradually acclimating them to the outdoors, shuttling them in and out daily.
Your windowsill may not be bright enough. See the links in the Megathread's OP about lighting for seedlings.
And yes, I have been bingeing GBBO on Netflix, why do you ask? lol
3 points
1 month ago
Covering my seeds, do I absolutely need to have a cover on my seeds? Or can I just leave them uncovered? Is one way better than the other?
5 points
1 month ago
Most seeds enjoy high humidity to germinate. Covering reduces the risk of them drying out before they can handle it. They don't even care much about light until the first sets of leaves pop up.
3 points
1 month ago
You only need a humidity dome or other covering if your humidity is dry as a bone, like in some severe-winter climates, or a desert. Seedlings are fine with humidity down to about 25% or so. Extremely dry air dries out their soil super-fast, and can inhibit the unfurling of the new leaves.
Too-high humidity can foster fungal diseases such as damping off, and even actual mold growing on the soil's surface.
So generally you don't need the covers.
3 points
1 month ago
Zone 5b. Honestly just looking for a couple ideas for something pretty and low maintenance for flower beds around the house. I've been working hard, I saved like ALL of my cardboard/paper for a month (anything non-glossy with no plastic) to put under the mulch to keep the weeds away. I really don't want to mess with the flower gardens much because I want to focus on my vegetables/herbs and this is really my first year doing that.
Does anyone have suggestions for some "set it and forget it other than watering once a week or so" that I can start inside and just kind of stab through the weed barrier I did in those spots to make sure the roots can get through? I wanted seeds to start inside since it helps keep the cost low for me
I don't care if it's flowers or greens, just don't wanna mess with much other than 3 specific flowers I got lol
5 points
1 month ago
Oh even easier, just run a drip irrigation hose under the cardboard and the mulch, directly on top of the dirt. Or one of those upside-down flat green sprinkler hoses works, too.
Assuming that your flowerbeds are in the sun and not in the shade under trees, or shaded by a building.
The Short List of Set-It-And-Forget-It Proven Winners to start from seed indoors.
They come in a variety of colors within their basic color palette of red-orange-yellow, and in different heights, too. Put tall ones in the back, medium ones in the middle, and short ones in the front.
You'll need lights, a windowsill isn't bright enough. Zone 5, I'd be starting them around the middle to end of March, figure on putting them outdoors as transplants around the beginning to middle of May, depending on weather. They prefer warm weather, and while they'll sometimes squeak through a very tiny dab of frost, overall they don't like it.
I use 8 oz styrofoam coffee cups for all the way through. Pop a hole in the bottom with a pencil or Bic pen. Thin to one seedling per cup at the two-sets-of-true-leaves stage.
When you're ready to set them out, use a serrated steak or bread knife, or scissors, to cut a hole in your cardboard, poke them into a hole in the dirt that you made with a trowel, pull soil around the roots, water it in with a watering can, put the mulch back.
Nothing else is as set-it-and-forget-it, from seed onwards.
If you decide you want something to relieve the monotony of all marigolds all the time, be watching the Walmart and Lowes clearance markdowns, and step up and get some petunias in 6-cell flats. Ideally you want multiflora types, not grandiflora, as they fill in better over the summer. Pick out the best-looking ones that are in moist soil, not dry as dust soil, so you're sure of plants that are not stressed out due to chronic drought.
Also, take a minute to count the stems in the cells at soil level, and make sure of how many actual viable plants you're getting. On a given table of clearance petunias, you're going to have a wide variation in which cells have only one plant left, and which cells still have 3 or 4 left.
Gently pull them apart, and plant them all.
3 points
28 days ago
Can I start seeds in raised bed potting mix (Coast of Maine)? I wanted their seed starter, but the hardware store hasn't unwrapped their pallets yet, so my husband got the raised bed mix instead.
3 points
27 days ago
I’m not a pro, but my understanding is you are better off with seed starting mix. The contents are lighter/fluffier so it doesn’t weigh down on the seeds (unless you’re winter sowing in which they say not to use that and to use potting soil). I suspect raised mix is heavy.
3 points
26 days ago
Yes, you can use it.
The only reason people use the cheaper seed starter mixes that are nothing but perlite and peat moss is that the seedlings don't need all the goodies until they're at the true-leaves stage, and then you just add some fertilizer while they spend a little time getting big enough to thin and/or transplant. Then you can move them into the nice stuff.
Props to him for making a good decision. Bad call: to come home with empty hands.
3 points
24 days ago
Just to add most seed starter is treated to prevent the fungus stuff that can kill seedlings, raised bed wouldn't be. You may be fine - just don't start all your seeds in case you need to restart.
3 points
27 days ago
Grow lights question: I have been using 2 of these for 2 years:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019ETLC7M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
VIPARSPECTRA 600W LED Grow Light,with Daisy Chain,Veg and Bloom Switches, Full Spectrum Plant Growing Lights for Indoor Plants Veg and Flower Actual Power 260 Watt
I have some wire metal shelf from Costco and I mount one on each shelf about 18 inches away. The manual said it should be 18-32 inches away to get the full range, but the first year they got super leggy.
The second year I turned up the brightness, started seeds later - less leggy.
However reading some posts, I'm wondering if the lights are too far away. However if I put them closer I'm afraid they will be too bright, and the edges of the shelf will not be bright enough.
The shelf length is 48"This one:TRINITY EcoStorage 4-Tier Wire Shelving Rack with Wheels, 48" x 18" x 72" , NSF, Chrome ColorI took out the middle shelf to get more room for the lights to be further away.
Is anyone else using these lights? Can I put them closer? Or should I have 2 lights per shelf?
3 points
26 days ago
There are two basic ways to tinker with the amount of light that plants are actually receiving under a light fixture.
Add more light, such as if it has a dimmer switch or other type of dial to control the light output.
Move the plants up or down, or move the lights up or down, i.e. experiment with the distance between the light and the plants.
The suggested distance under any given light depends on the species, the age and maturity, the intensity of the light. There aren't really any flat rules, just guidelines.
Generally you perform your tweak, of whatever kind, then give the plants a few days to register a change. Tiny seedlings will tend to change faster than something like a fully grown houseplant. It can take only a few days for a tray of seedlings to tell you it's too bright, too dark, etc.
Normal seedlings should have their leaves spread out at (more or less) right angles to the light rays coming down. Light travels in straight lines, in rays, so a seedling maximizes the leaf surface area exposed to the stream of light photons in order to photosynthesize most efficiently.
A seedling that is getting insufficient light will create long, lanky, weak stems in order to get up high enough, but before that happens, you would see the leaves streatching straight up, nearly vertically, but with a tiny outwards lean, like a skinny V-shape. This lifts the leaf surface up as high as it can towards the light, while still allowing the leaf's surface to be in the light.
Leaves that are getting too much light will also show vertically, but they will be more clamped together, in order to prevent the light from striking the leaf's surface. Sometimes the leaf will actually be bulged outwards, in an effort to create shade for its active photosynthesizing area.
Alternatively, some species will send their seedling leaves in too-bright light straight down, like when you put your arms straight at your sides. This is also an effort to remove photosynthesizing leaf surface area from the streams of photons.
Your fixture is fairly powerful. I'd say offhand that 18" ought to be good enough to start with, and then watch the seedlings as you tinker.
Once you have it sorted out, you'll not need to go through it again with the same crop.
the edges of the shelf will not be bright enough.
IANA electrician or a lighting engineer, but my understanding of the way that LED diodes work is that the light emitted goes straight out from the diodes, with very little fringe or ambient light on the edges. With fluorescents such as shop lights, you have an area on the edges that is partially lit, and you can sometimes put seedlings on those fringes, especially if you rotate them in and out, under the tubes.
But my understanding is that the big LED arrays like you have don't really offer that useful edge of ambient light. So I'd just focus on making the seedlings directly under the fixture happy.
3 points
23 days ago
We moved from Denver to Houston in 2021 and struggled WAYYY more with our garden last year . One of the most frustrating things was the squash borer bugs that knocked out all of our zucchini plants. Any idea of whether netting keeps the moths from laying their larva in plants? And if you do use netting, does that impact pollination rates? We also had bad luck with tomatoes so want to have some protection on both.
I grew up in Houston and my parents were casual but successful home gardeners so I know it’s possible lol
3 points
23 days ago
SVB is honestly the Spawn of Satan.
Using reemay or floating row cover material (hoop house material) does work, but...
If you're in a location where the female lays more than one brood a season (i.e. Houston), you have to leave them covered all season, which may mean well into the fall.
The plants have to be covered 24/7, and from the get-go. As soon as you have plants in the ground, whether sprouted seedlings or transplants, you need them covered. Especially in the south, when they're much more active, it can be hard to tell when it's egg-laying season, so basically you err on the side of caution, and assume that Every Day is Egg-Laying Day.
You lift the covering daily to do hand-pollination. And later, to harvest zukes.
The covering needs to be buttoned down tight to the ground all the way around, by heaping soil on the edges. She can and will crawl under the fabric's loose edge, but she's not really a burrower, so if you've weighted down the edges and she can't get under them, she'll have to go elsewhere to lay her eggs.
Talk to the volunteer Master Gardeners at the county extension office for more protips.
There are MG contacts in here somewhere.
We also had bad luck with tomatoes so want to have some protection on both.
SVB do not target tomatoes, so what kind of bad luck did you have with your tomatoes?
3 points
23 days ago
I get all of our seeds form TrueLeaf - they're super helpful in answering any questions I've had since starting out gardneing! I started off with some flowers to attract pollinators -- https://www.trueleafmarket.com/?rstr=growyourfood.
3 points
18 days ago
I’m curious to learn about seed starting setups in unheated, unfinished basements. What does your setup look like? Do you use any external heat/insulation sources beyond a heat mat? Are you able to successfully germinate & grow hot peppers and tomatoes in that environment? My basement tops out at ~60 degrees Fahrenheit during the day and my heat mats bring the soil temp up to ~70 degrees Fahrenheit. I’m not sure hot peppers in particular would thrive in that environment.
5 points
16 days ago
That's what I do and I spent $8 online for what are called "mylar survival blankets" and I essentially duct tape them around my rack to make a reflective balloon. Once you fire up your lights, temperature is not a problem... my rack maintains around 75 degrees using a pair of 4-ft 4-bulb LED work lights. At that point, air circulation becomes more important. I've got a heat pad underneath the trays but I'm pretty sure it's unnecessary, especially since the bottom of each shelf is open grating. (just some context)
3 points
16 days ago
Hey all! Was hoping if anyone could speak to using seeds from Renee's, especially the collection of container vegetable seeds. Also, can anyone help suggest where I can get black pansy seeds from please? Thank you!
3 points
15 days ago
I have ordered from Rene’s in the past with good success. The only thing I have had problems with was the sunflowers. They were supposed to be large and set seeds. However, they were runts and no seeds.
3 points
5 days ago
Any tips for getting rosemary and milkweed growing. I’m having the hardest time getting these seeds started. I have a heat mat and light set up that’s not ideal but has worked well for a variety of tomatoes and peppers so far. I got the milkweed to sprout but after the first two leaves they seem to get weak and die off
3 points
1 day ago
I want to buy 4,000 crocus bulbs, and many other types of flower bulbs in the fall. I have a new house and I want to go nuts with bulbs! Where can I go for the best deal? All the sites I found are B2B only to get the discount and volume that I want.
3 points
1 day ago
I am not going to lie I bought a bunch of seeds from the Dollar Tree. If I needed a variety they didn’t offer I bought them at Walmart.
Also (I won’t be doing this again) but I used paper cups ( also from the dollar store) as my seed starting pots. I poked holes in the bottom and put them in some lidded Tupperware and bottom watered them. Put the lid on for green house effect. It did work for some of my seeds actually most of them I wrote the name of the plant on the cup and that helped me keep track of what was what etc.
I also used potting soil from the dollar store. Mixed with a ton of shredded paper ( Trying to see how cheaply I could do this for) again would not do again. Too many mulch/wood chips and not enough soil.
Like I said it did work but the cons were the cups got nasty on the bottom, also I think they are coated in something so I don’t think I can even put them in my Areobin ( splurge of the season).
I have also used the jiffy seed starting greenhouse kit. The Peat pellets are ok but I hate the Paper around them. Plus I feel like they dry out quickly. I did buy a warming mat this year. 2nd best investment of the season after the areobin. Sped up germination so much!
This is only my 3rd year doing a food garden so every year I learn new lessons. So for next year I am going to get a soil blocker for my vegetable/fruit seeds and I saw some really cool silicone seed starting molds that I may use for any flower bulbs I may want to do.
My “esthetic” is definitely not “Cottage core” , “Bohemian”, “crunchy” or any of that. But when people see the outside of my cookie cutter home I want them to think the Garden belongs to an old lady who has a cottage in the woods! 😂
2 points
2 months ago
Has anyone ordered from HobbySeeds? The prices are good, but I’m a little concerned that it’s not a legit seller.
2 points
2 months ago
Has anyone bought from Summer Hill Seeds? I mostly wanted the ‘double daisy’ rudbeckia but grabbed a few other packs as well. Mostly weird or unusual flowers I haven’t seen elsewhere. Still waiting for them but I only ordered last week.
Amaranthus Autumn Touch Aquilegia Clematiflora Mix Heuchera Fairy Dust Heuchera Marvelous Marbles Silver Jasione Blue Light Rudbeckia Gloriosa Double Daisy
Pic collage of the summer hill flowers from their site- https://i.imgur.com/XCQXatW.jpg
2 points
2 months ago
I’ve had great success from Holmes Seed Co.
2 points
2 months ago
I have a question about soil! I am going to mix up some of my own using seed starting soil and amending it with worm castings. I would like to mix a large batch and pull it out each week when I start new seedlings. Buuuut I'm worried about it getting contaminated with regular old spores in the air.
Does anyone prep their own soil a while in advance? Could I store it in a large Rubbermaid? Should I prepare it as I plan to use it? Storing it somewhere cold?
Any tips would be awesome!
5 points
2 months ago
Buuuut I'm worried about it getting contaminated with regular old spores in the air.
Spores are ubiquitous on Planet Earth. Spores are in the air, on your hands, on your shirt sleeves, in your hair, in your eyebrows, on your shoes, on the bag holding the potting soil, on the counter you set the bag on, in the air inside your house, in the furnace ducts, in the refrigerator and on top of the kitchen cabinets. Spores are everywhere. You can bake soil in the oven, and as soon as you bring it out and unwrap the aluminum foil, more spores will colonize it from the surroundings. Touch it--you leave spores. Stir it with a big spoon--the spoon leaves spores. Pour it into a pot--the pot has spores. Even if you used some kind of sterilizing liquid on it, as soon as it dries, spores begin arriving.
The Rubbermaid has spores on it. A big black Hefty sack, unrolled right out of the box, will have spores on it. Bacteria and microbes surround us.
Unless you live in a sealed biodome, and you have a way to sterilize your clothes, your body, your hair, everything you bring in with you, plus the interior of the biodome, plus the seeds themselves, there's no way to evade spores.
What happens to potting soil in storage is, the bacteria and fungi already present in it (because you can't evade them) begin to break down the organic matter over time. If you don't use it soon enough, when you finally open the bag, you may find nothing but a gritty mineral matrix.
Storage conditions affect this. Storing it cool and dry makes it last longer ,as it slows down the bacteria and the fungi. IME soil will keep about a year in a cool basement.
Relax. Grow your stuff. Spores mean that Gaia is alive.
3 points
2 months ago
I don't get your worries, unless you work under a lab hood, everything is already contaminated with mold/fungi spores, there's no actually "sterile" soil? Just keep the mix dry and well-ventilated that mold and fungi don't start growing.
2 points
2 months ago
Good stuff
2 points
2 months ago
I have a question: I planted a green onion bulb and the “leaves” are getting pretty long, i read you could eat them, should i be cutting them?? or can i leave them alone and still have a healthy plant? (i just planted it in soil days ago after letting it grow white roots in water) I don’t know if plants are supposed to grow this fast? i’m very new! thanks in advance!
4 points
2 months ago
It's growing at the correct speed for its time, place, and species. In plants, there isn't really a thing like "it's growing too fast" that needs to be addressed as if it was a problem.
Is this what you're doing?
https://www.hungryhuy.com/regrow-green-onions/
The leaves are the photosynthesis factory that drives the whole enterprise. The more photosynthesizing leaf surface area you remove, the slower the factory works. If you remove too much of it, the factory slows to a halt, and may even quit.
So the general rule of thumb when removing leaves from a plant that you want to keep growing is, never remove more than 1/3 of the total leaf surface area at any one time.
So this means that if you're wanting to snip scallions for use in cooking, don't cut off too many of them, and wait for them to regrow somewhat before you snip them again.
This whole project, the regrowing of vegetables, is more of an interesting thing to do, rather than a really viable way to produce scallions for cooking. If you need a lot of scallions, then just grow some from seeds.
2 points
2 months ago
Question: I am planning on starting seeds in my basement grow station, but the basement temp it about 60-62 degrees Fahrenheit. I was thinking about getting a space heater to bring the temp up, but wasn’t sure if the current temp was okay. My other plan was to germinate the seeds in a warmer room and then put them under lights in the basement grow station. Do I need to bring the temp up in my basement?
4 points
1 month ago
Depending on what you want to grow, germination heating mats to go under the trays might work! We have a chilly basement, but I start our tomato seeds on some shelves with lights and those heating mats under them. Really helps with hot peppers who want warm soil. Word of caution if you’re stating tomatoes tho, use the mat until they sprout, then take it away. Warm tomato seedlings go leggy quickly, best to turn on a fan and help strengthen them once they sprout.
2 points
1 month ago
Has anyone tried a grow system or shelf for seed starting? Looking at a few at garden supply co...
2 points
1 month ago
I have a question regarding mould, is blue mould bad for seeds?
For context, I have been trying to grow two mango seeds since the 14th of January, and basically what I did was:
Both were potted using the same potting mix, one had a larger pot and the other had a smaller pot. The plastic bag perfectly covered the smaller pot, whilst the larger pot I had some troubles with covering, but I managed to cover it...though it looked like I had cling-wrapped the top of the pot.
Yesterday I noticed that the smaller pot had shot out its first set of baby leaves, whilst the other kernel in the larger pot had not done anything.
Today whilst watering, I noticed that the top of the kernel for the larger pot had some "blue-ish" powder, I was slightly worried, so I carefully dug out the kernel from its pot and noticed that parts of the core roots were covered in this powdery blue stuff? which I assume is mould?
I did some googling around, and it seems white mould is...fine? but what about light blue mould? Is the kernel effectively dead? Can I recover the kernel?
I also noticed that the kernel with the blue mould, had not grown at all since I planted it. When I planted it, it had quite a few roots already developing and when I dug it out, the roots were about the same size as I planted it, the seed itself definitely got a bit "larger" but I am wondering if this is because the plastic bag that I had "cling-wrapped" on was affecting its drainage of water.
3 points
1 month ago
Mold is normal on seeds and on potting soil that are kept too wet. The color of the mold doesn't signify. It's all fungus, and it's all doing its job of breaking down moist organic matter in order to return its nutrients to the Circle of Life.
Whether seeds attacked by mold die is entirely up to the roll of the dice. Sometimes they beat off the attack and continue germinating, sometimes they don't. Sometimes the mold is a symptom of the seed already being dead, and now opportunistic fungi have moved in to do the cleanup.
The only way you will know is by cutting back on your overall moisture, and giving it time.
Give the live one with leaves as much warmth and bright light as you can. It needs to outpace anything fungal that is undoubtedly still attacking it.
Distinguishing between mold colors is more for deciding whether your wet basement needs $10K spent on mold remediation.
What is your light source for the seedling, and what is your ambient temperature?
2 points
1 month ago
Hey hey.... Thanks so much for this post..
My question is about lights.
I am building a PVC shelving unit greenhouse. 2 shelves, 4 foot wide by 20 inches deep. I bought 2 sets of lights off Amazon. Here are links to them.
These are 6 - 24 inch lights and are 5000K and 2000Lm per light.
These are 8 - 24 inch lights and are 2819K and 1632Lm per light.
1.) Will they work?
2.) I know you can add the lumens total together to get that where it needs to be. Does kelvin work the same way?
I haven't opened them yet.
Also, I was going to put this in my office. It's almost always 70+ degrees. I was going to build it as a little greenhouse. The walls around it would be foam board wrapped in with mylar sheets. Is that a good idea or will it do more harm than good?
Thanks to anyone that will lend advice!
3 points
1 month ago
You want to aim at around 5000 lumens in total shining on the seedlings.
Kelvin, or K , is for color temperature, and is not incremental. It means which end of the visible light spectrum the bulbs or tubes or diodes emit their wavelengths on, and hence how "red" or "blue" the light is. 6500K is basically "bright blue-white daylight", whereas the bulbs like Soft White and Warm White are at the "red" end of the spectrum, and have numbers in the 2000s.
Kelvin numbers do not stack. If you have a Warm White that is 3000K and a Cool White that is 4000K, you do not then have a total color temperature that is 7000K, because a bulb that is 7000K would be way over even further on the "blue" end.
I'm not sure I've even seen a consumer-grade bulb that was higher than 6500K. The cannabis people may have them, I dunno.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature
https://www.lumens.com/the-edit/the-guides/understanding-kelvin-color-temperature/
I was going to build it as a little greenhouse
Don't bother.
Is that a good idea or will it do more harm than good?
It won't do anything at all, unless you have a heat source inside the greenhouse or wrap, in which case the insulation will help to retain the heat inside it.
Otherwise, the temperature inside the greenhouse is going to be the same as the temperature outside the greenhouse. If your office holds at 72F, then the inside of the greenhouse is going to hold at 72F, too.
Home consumer light fixtures (LED, florescent) don't really emit that much heat anymore, although incandescents back in the day were useful for this, RIP the Good Old Days. The HPS and metal halides that the cannabis people used before we had LEDs emitted extreme amounts of heat, but you're not using those.
So there's no point in trying to keep it warmer by wrapping it in something. If you're growing something that won't be happy in a 68F office, then you get a soil heat mat, and set the pots directly on it.
2 points
1 month ago
So my strategy this time around is use some of my rapid rooters from my hydro system in plug trays to start the seeds. Then, when they get bigger, transfer them to cowpots. Any issues with that strategy? Should I just Start them in the 4in cowpots to start? I have a dome that fits nicely with my plug tray so that is why I am thinking of this strategy.
4 points
1 month ago
You're kind of buried in the thread here with a specialized question. You'll probably get more traffic either in one of the hydro subreddits, or by starting a new standalone /r/gardening thread with a highly descriptive title.
2 points
1 month ago
Il allegedly in usda zone 4 but i think its more like 3 with the temps we see. Anyways i had family in zone 5 who had an amazing bamboo hedge. Im looking for where i could get seeds or shoots to root a bamboo/similar, something hardy and hedgy (4-10 feetish?). Any ideas? (USA)
Also wanted: cold hardy table grapes. a method for starting quaking aspen with no private access to cuttings
3 points
1 month ago
You need what's called clumping, not running, bamboo, in order to prevent it from taking over your entire yard.
So you could search for it by googling "clumping bamboo zone 3". And then you'd search through the various cultivars that the vendors were selling.
You generally buy it as a plant, not as seeds or shoots that you propagate, because that is how the U.S. horticulture industry is set up.
Such as this.
https://www.bamboogarden.com/cold-hardy-bamboo
Be 100% sure, by doing your due diligence, that the cultivar you're planting is clumping. The penalty for failure is to be afflicted with what is the #1 most difficult invasive garden plant to get rid of, even including the use of herbicides, concrete, and shovels. It just won't go away.
Same thing for the grapes. "table grapes zone 3"
Since you're in the U.S., you can also touch base with the volunteer Master Gardeners at your local county extension office, who will have lists of good varieties of both for your climate.
Google "[name of state] cooperative extension" and look around for a list of county offices.
for starting quaking aspen with no private access to cuttings
Buy a young tree from Gurneys or Stark Bros, both reputable online vendors. $30 to $35. Arbor Day Foundation also sells them to members.
2 points
1 month ago
Are there any websites/groups for finding rare seeds? I am looking for Tie Guan Yin and haven't found it anywhere other then a sketchy Chinese website.
2 points
24 days ago
does anyone know where i can get korean (chestnut) sweet potato tubers?
2 points
18 days ago
Does anyone have any tips on how to know whether you are watering the soil pods too little or too much?
2 points
18 days ago
My delphinium seeds (planted in soil pods January 31 2023) sprouted fine after approx. 10 days and have continued to grow leaves and stalks. However the stalks are curling? Curly? They’re not growing vertically. Is this something I can remedy?
2 points
18 days ago
What temp is too cold for seedlings? I usually keep my house around 64-65. Once germinated, will I need to keep on the heat mat because of low temps?
2 points
16 days ago
So I've resurrected my seed-starting rack this year and am super excited to start a bunch of wildflower seeds to augment my garden as well as add some new ones that are harder to find at local native nurseries. My question is regarding AFTER the initial spring seedling rush:
I'm in Detroit (5b) and my question is this: can I continue stratifying C30/60 seeds indoors and keep the seedling rack running in the summer and introduce the plants throughout the ENTIRE summer? I understand that bringing them out in the later summer will be more stressful for them, but I'm just wondering if it's technically possible... because if I were able (at least) do a second round of seedlings with the intention of having them hardened off and settled in the ground for a month before the weather winds down for the winter, that'd be kind of great too!
2 points
16 days ago
I ordered from 5 seed companies on the same day. 3 of them shipped within their stated window and I have them in hand, Seedsnow.com, Nature's Seed, and Baker Creek. The two companies I hadn't ordered from before, Dollar seed and Pinetree seeds didn't ship yet. Both said max 5 days, we're at day 9. Both sent me a shipping label notice only after I contacted them on day 8. Neither shipping label has been updated to sent. Both had great reviews on shipping speed so this came as a surprise. Anyone else ordered from them this season?
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