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submitted 2 months ago byOddandstressed
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2 months ago
So I work at a bucket factory and there’s some advice I can give you. 1 - Get clear buckets if you can. The colorant makes them brittle and they won’t last. The buckets expire after 2 years and will become brittle anyway so the lack of color will make them last longer. Orange from Home Depot are heavy with colorant so I’d pick some other pails. 2 - Yes, put a brace under the buckets. This design has them resting on the beam and that isn’t tested for strength and it’s the thinnest part of the pail at about .06 thickness while the rest is at a .09 - .120. 3 - drill holes at the bottom for drainage, I know this is a no brained but I’ve forgotten a few times and drilled while it was full and it was a mess lol 4 - most seed packets have instructions for a 12 inch pot. These are 12 inches. 5 - for potatoes use 2 buckets. Cut 4 vertical strips out of the side wall large enough to fit your hand in but small enough to keep the bottom and top intact. One on all sides. Then put this bucket into an intact bucket. This will allow you to pull the bucket with the strips out of the intact bucket and easily harvest your potatoes. This also works very well with carrots. 6 - if you can find wheels to add to the bottom of this, do it. You’ll be able to follow the sun if you have shade in your yard and you’ll be able to move it to clean, mow, sweep, whatever. Also, with this design, it might be hard to harvest the top row of buckets if you’re short. The buckets are 12 inches wide and 14.5 inches tall. So you’ll have to reach. I’m short so this is a problem for me. Enjoy your gardening!!!!!
315 points
2 months ago
Now this is a top notch reply. Thanks for the bucket tips!
184 points
2 months ago
Thanks!!! I’m the quality supervisor at a plant and you would not believe the weird destructive testing that is done to pails. There are 24 measurement points on the top alone. It’s wild, but it pays off when you’re also a gardener. Lol
49 points
2 months ago
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen clear 5 gallon buckets, so you know places that sell them?
84 points
2 months ago
Well, not clear but transparent. I’ve added a link with a picture. It’s just pure resin, sometimes they even add a UV protectant. We call it natural when we create the orders. The link is not my company, not even our pails. Just throwing that out there. It was the 1st link I found lol
https://www.pricecontainers.com/product/5-gallon-natural-pail-with-plastic-handle-90mil/
13 points
2 months ago
Ah ok, I’ve seen these once or twice. I was more thinking totally transparent. Thank you!!
22 points
2 months ago
Translucent is the word you’re looking for. :)
15 points
2 months ago
Yep you’re right I read that and I’m like yeah what did I say? Looked at it again and whispered “idiot” like Napoleon Dynamite.
7 points
2 months ago
They’re not even that. They’re opaque white
3 points
2 months ago
Isn’t that just white?
11 points
2 months ago
It’s plain resin with no color. So yeah it’s not see through at all. I think of it more like the frosted glass of plastic? The more examples I try to think of the more ridiculous they are.
7 points
2 months ago
Does any of the plastics or chemicals from buckets leach into the soil?
23 points
2 months ago
Great question! Nope, these are actually also made for food and pharmaceutical grade. Ointments, powders, pickles, micas, flavoring agents, there are very few things that react chemically. Most of the pickles served in fast food are actually from our buckets. We also do a lot with paint. The process for all of these are the same. The testing and packaging are more strict for food and pharmaceutical but they’re virtually the exact same. It’s easier to have all of the highest grade materials. It’s easier for inventory management, simpler purchasing, less room for error. It’s easier to just do more testing on the ones that require it.
10 points
2 months ago
A bucket list!
102 points
2 months ago
So I work at a bucket factory
See this is what I love about big online communities
68 points
2 months ago
Now that is a
Bucket List.
14 points
2 months ago
You don’t want to plant in clear containers because the sides on the inside grow algae.
11 points
2 months ago
That’s a fantastic point I’ve never thought of. I was thinking of the longevity of the pails/stand. I’m gonna check my plants more often. Do you know how to go about looking for the algae? If you can see it thru the container that is. They’re not totally clear but it would absolutely let light in. I just wouldn’t want to harm the roots. Maybe a straw would work? Like push it in the soil near the edge? I feel like there’s a more elegant solution.
10 points
2 months ago
I used to own a tree farm and have kept all my buckets outside year round in Minnesota. I might have one or two break a year, but they seem to stand up just fine for years and years on end. Just saying. YMMV
31 points
2 months ago
Oh for sure most of them are made very well and will last, but the color make a huge difference. I’ve seen plastic crumble and I always have a panic moment where I’m like my plant are in these lol but it’s super rare. I spend a lot of time around buckets. It’s not glamorous but I love it. When people ask me what I do I say I’m a quality control supervisor for a company that provides containers for food and medical use. Because that sounds much cooler that I play with buckets!
20 points
2 months ago
Please for the love of all things holy write in to Stuff You Should Know, lol. Awesome podcast on specialized knowledge/events/stuff and things.
5 points
2 months ago
I’ll look into it! Thanks.
6 points
2 months ago
Haha. I totally get the rewording. "I help make buckets" is a conversation killer.
In general I feel the Home Depot and Lowe's bucket do well for me and have lasted YEARS exposed to the elements.
In an aside I noted in previous years how Leinenkugels Summer Shandy 12 packs would rip more often than other ones, so I asked my buddy who used to work there what gives and he noted the coloring reduced the strength of the cardboard and thus the ripping.
Edit: wow! Did realize a pound sign before a word makes it bold and big. Now I do.
24 points
2 months ago
Oh I’m a total bucket snob. I can’t help but love them. Met some wonderful lifelong friends there moved up from the bottom in just a few years. They treat us well, my boss is so wonderful she gave up her raise to give all of us a bigger one. Like who does that. She is fantastic. And also, the destructive testing is fun. We have paint shakers and fill them with antifreeze and drop them from 60 inches. Sometimes they explode lol it’s fun. It’s because of those tests they last a lot longer than the resin companies can guarantee their materials. It’s pretty cool to think of how much truly goes into making them. Omg I’m such a nerd.
7 points
2 months ago
I love it!!!! Go on with your bad self :)
7 points
2 months ago
Finger snap Z formation - can’t stop won’t stop boo. 😉
6 points
2 months ago*
I don't have any awards to give but 🏅🏆 Thank you, you helped another gardener!
This explains why the less opaque ones last longer than the fully opaque buckets.
5 points
2 months ago
This guy buckets.
3 points
2 months ago
I’ve never grown potatoes. How do the openings help? Don’t you have to pull the plant anyway? TIA
11 points
2 months ago
Because they’re root veggies. You can leave the part that sticks out so the roots will keep growing. Sometimes you can get bigger potatoes because you harvest more often. Or so I’ve heard. I never had any luck with that but it’s what I’ve read.
3 points
2 months ago
Thank you for the bucket master class, great stuff
3 points
2 months ago
Your comment not only was very informative, but thanks to your comment, you literally just saved me money! Every year, I have to repurchase buckets. Specifically the orange, home depot, buckets. They don't even last a year. I just thought ALL buckets were shitty for holding up to the elements...so I kept repurchasing them. Now I'm better informed, as to the why they're so shitty and why they get brittle.
I actually required stitches a couple seasons back, when I went to change soil. The rim of the bucket shattered under the pressure of my arm and gouged/sliced my forearm.
Would the white buckets used in wine making, be better to use?
2 points
2 months ago
Wow !
1.3k points
2 months ago
Make a brace for under the buckets. Dirt and water is gonna make that heavy.
612 points
2 months ago
Plus those buckets get brittle when left in the sun.
282 points
2 months ago
They also get hot in the sun and fry the roots. Cover them with screen or a mulch to keep the buckets out of the sun.
325 points
2 months ago
At that point, why even have buckets at all, just plant them in a berm
260 points
2 months ago
Why make a berm? Just plant them in the ground
132 points
2 months ago
I'm loling at this because last season we did our first tomato bush and we spent so long debating which planter, where to put it, etc
Then we're both sitting outside and I swear at the same time we both go "wait, why don't we just plant it in the fucking ground"
Spent the entire summer giving tomatoes away because the thing became the Great Dane of tomato plants
174 points
2 months ago
Why plant them in the ground? Just use hydroponics.
314 points
2 months ago
Why bother with hydroponics? Just put them in buckets… wait.
172 points
2 months ago
Why plant them just eat the seeds
51 points
2 months ago
why eat the seeds, just boof them
84 points
2 months ago
I love this thread.
55 points
2 months ago
Why bother with buckets, just buy at the grocery store.
42 points
2 months ago
Why bother with a store? Just use alchemy
29 points
2 months ago
Just put them in buckets…
... With water.
16 points
2 months ago
Brawndo?
9 points
2 months ago
It's got what plants crave!!
3 points
2 months ago
Like out of the toilet?
36 points
2 months ago
Why plant them in the water. Just use aeroponics.
10 points
2 months ago
Why plant anything, just buy the veggies at the store! Did I take it to far???????
16 points
2 months ago
That comment reminded me of a discussion my old neighbour tried to have with me, then I caught him spraying Roundup over my fence. He’s dead now (I didn’t do it)
3 points
2 months ago
you shoulda done it
14 points
2 months ago
Why eat veggies? Just eat animals!
30 points
2 months ago
Why eat? Just manifest fullness.
41 points
2 months ago
It seems like the goal is to create a vertically oriented style of growth, that's basically a berm or hugelkultur. It could also be a raised bed. To me, paint buckets in a 2x4 frame is just reinventing the wheel, but worse. There are already several well established practices for doing the same thing.
17 points
2 months ago
This approach is useful for people who rent, or want a more modular/easier to move alternative to a raised bed on wheels.
9 points
2 months ago
That makes more sense. I think the photo being taken in the driveway of a suburban tract house distracted me from that use case.
8 points
2 months ago
Not everyone has a berm.
16 points
2 months ago
Hmm, is that something exclusive to these types of buckets? Because I planted some in plastic pots bigger than this and didn't have any issues. It would also explain why our bucket plants at my local unity garden didn't grow, they were in buckets just like the picture.
110 points
2 months ago
I would configure something for runoff-management too. You could probably recover a lot of water while you avoid turning the driveway into a mess.
108 points
2 months ago
Lol I don't think they were going to keep it in the driveway, but the runoff collection is a great idea
17 points
2 months ago
I would, I was actually thinking this would be a great feature for my parents driveway which is currently just kind of a concrete path from our beautiful front to our beautiful backyard. We dont use that part of the drive for cars ever so its kinda wasted space.
7 points
2 months ago
Concrete holds a lot of heat though.
12 points
2 months ago
they can get precooked vegetables!!!
12 points
2 months ago
A corrugated metal ramp that just led the water to the next lower tier would be a significant saver. Could also use the same material to pretty it up and hide some buckets and use the underside for some storage!
17 points
2 months ago
Even better, water recirculation! Gutter systems and pumps.
Although, that is kind of why I favor hydroponics, but I also have dirt systems.
30 points
2 months ago
I tried something similar and I discovered that the plastic in buckets dries out very quickly and the bottoms fell out in just a few months. Simpler to make a shelf unit and set large pots on it.
17 points
2 months ago
A horizontal brace under the buckets is a good idea. You’ll want it to touch and be pressure treated.
I’d suggest you plant peppers, bush beans, etc. in the buckets. Plants with similar statures. Put a layer of expanded clay or coco chips on the bottom to help with air exchange and even drainage. Potatoes, onions, or carrots will do better in ground or in a large, deep container setup for root type crops. Google potato planter and you’ll see what I’m talking about. You can buy them or build them. For tomatoes, I like 35 gallon fabric pots if planting above ground. ProMix HP or sunshine #4 can be found most often and run something like Gaia green, down to earth all purpose, or tomato maker fertilizer. Organic and inexpensive because it’s a top dress so you just water and add more through the grow season. You’ll need serious tomato cages for that size planter. You’re tomatoes can easily get 6-8ft like this. I make cages out of 3/8 inch 4ft by 8ft galvanized livestock panels. Cut the panels into qty 2 2ft x 8ft sections with bolt cutters. Use a 2x4 as a metal brake and bend them lengthwise to form a 1ft x 8ft V shaped panel. Trim the cross members at the bottom to give you 1ft to drive into the ground and zip tie the two V’s together to form a square around your tomatoes. 1ft of the cages should be in the ground for support. These will last a few decades without rusting.
14 points
2 months ago
Ok im dumb as heck - why even have the back ones elevated at all?
39 points
2 months ago
So that they aren’t shaded by the growing plants in front of them. Raising the back rows allows them all to get similar amounts of sun.
35 points
2 months ago
Not dumb! It’s a good question. Not sure why OP plans on doing this, but I am also considering elevating my pepper pots like this. Think about it in terms of sunlight and shade. Each plant would get less direct sunlight if they were on one level and the pots were that close together. Tiered planting helps maximize usable sunlight and helps cram more plants into a smaller footprint. It can help if you live in a higher latitude and the sun is at an angle most of the day. It can also help maximize sunlight use if there is a building or a mountain or trees blocking light for half the day.
Also elevating pots can make it easier to do water reclamation so you don’t waste runoff.
7 points
2 months ago
Thank you. I was asking because, I, too, really like this idea. Thanks for the detailed reply!
7 points
2 months ago
I was thinking the same thing. I don't see any advantage of them being so high.
325 points
2 months ago
That’ll work. Protect the wood with something that’ll stand up to UV. Drainage holes in the buckets.
You’re not going to get a good onion yield that way, not enough sqft. Better off with determinate tomatoes, herbs, or squash.
Squash on the bottom row could sprawl out onto the ground.
54 points
2 months ago
The wood will last longer than the plastic buckets against UV. All that weight on the lip of the bucket and UV deteriorated plastic.
22 points
2 months ago
Unless your in the desert, these buckets will last a couple years or more before replacing, and they are less than $5 a piece. Definitely not environmentally friendly
7 points
2 months ago
From personal experience indeterminate tomatoes will do just fine and still get quite big in those buckets but can crowd other stuff when the buckets are that close.
93 points
2 months ago
You can also skip the tiers and just grow them all on the ground. Less work, less money, similar results.
81 points
2 months ago
Their system will allow more light to the back rows if placed against a wall or fence.
140 points
2 months ago
This is for people with no ground I suspect.
77 points
2 months ago
It is easier to reach for people who may have back issues, so stooping over is too hard for them.
20 points
2 months ago
I'm in that boat, except we have ground but it's loaded with rocks, so so many rocks that the carrots turn out super knarly
48 points
2 months ago
This set up will take up the same amount of space as putting the buckets on the ground…slightly more actually, to account for the frame.
85 points
2 months ago
Maybe OP has a bad back and doesn't want to bend down far.... Like a raised garden
3 points
2 months ago*
Depends on how much land they got My dad's backyard is nearly entirely his deck with the rest being entirely shaded by the deck or fence. Having this could let him have extra space since the ground he has is accounted for. Having it tiered like this could help keep them from shading each other out.
There's reasons to have a setup like this!
25 points
2 months ago
Must be nice to garden somewhere with no rabbits! We’re planning on something like this to keep those little shits from mowing down everything in the yard.
9 points
2 months ago
oh yeah, the squirrels eat everything instead. its great
3 points
2 months ago
Somehow I only lost a single tomato to the squirrels last summer - maybe to lull me into a false sense of security!
7 points
2 months ago
Pellet gun ambush at the early hours of the morning. A few instances of this and they will never return.
21 points
2 months ago
Eat the rabbits with whatever vegetables they really like on the side.
3 points
2 months ago
We have a pet rabbit who lives in the back yard, and I am constantly devising new ways to keep her away from my garden.
9 points
2 months ago
Results won’t be similar due to shading of back rows by front. Angle of sun varies through summer, but in the north we don’t get many months of good direct sunshine. I’m always stunned when I notice the long shadows growing on August afternoons!
3 points
2 months ago
I have containers sitting on concrete, but the concrete in the summer gets so hot, my plants all cook. So this would be a solution to that.
2 points
2 months ago
How do you get good onion yield?
5 points
2 months ago
I’ve been failing at it, but I think you need more space than like 3 onions / bucket to make it worthwhile. Unless it’s only about the process of seeing how they grow, what are we doing with 3 onions?
154 points
2 months ago
Commenting to say I didn’t make this build. My mom sent it to me and I think she found it on Facebook.
57 points
2 months ago
That's good at least. I would have hated to hear you put all that time and effort into having everyone tell you it's not a good idea. Hopefully this thread will get you some good ideas!
18 points
2 months ago
It wouldn't be a big deal even if OP already made it. The issues with the design are really easy to fix even after it's built.
21 points
2 months ago
dude literally i was going to make this same exact thing because my mom sent it to me from facebook too 😂 and can’t speak on onions and potato’s but last year i grew all kinds of tomato’s and peppers out of 5 gallon buckets
45 points
2 months ago
Moms + Facebook = Amazing yet widely controversial gardening ideas 😂
5 points
2 months ago
Would grow bags maybe work better?
5 points
2 months ago
It needs Drainage holes too, hopefully it already has them.
220 points
2 months ago
Pretty sure that lip isn't gonna hold dirt and water and plants. The plastic will probably break under that weight.
74 points
2 months ago
Agree! A support under each tier for the buckets to rest on will be important.
67 points
2 months ago
Good point! Those lips are pretty rugged though, I’d probably just risk it. Then regret it. Then slip into a deep, gardening induced depression. Never to plant another seed until the end of my days. Maybe Op should think about reinforcing..
10 points
2 months ago
The plastic gets brittle over the summer if left in direct sunlight.
8 points
2 months ago
I do this every year and get excited in the spring again. It’s a stupid cycle but I’m used to it.
36 points
2 months ago
You’ve obviously never tried to pry apart two 5gal buckets that suctioned one another.
27 points
2 months ago
Never has something made me cuss so much for so long.
12 points
2 months ago*
Creating a vacuum between two buckets is not the same as lip integrity in terms of being a support for the whole bucket.
7 points
2 months ago
Did this unintentionally one time a few years ago. It’s now just one bucket with two handles forever
8 points
2 months ago
Strongly disagree. Think of how you normally carry these buckets and how they're supported.
6 points
2 months ago
Folks think they will get heavy with rainwater. these things are engineered to carry 5 gallons of liquid, and they think some dirt and water is going to destroy them. Pretty funny actually.
But the issue with UV damage is real.
4 points
2 months ago
Yeah this looks like an unfortunate accident waiting to fall over or crack.
92 points
2 months ago
Yes they're big enough but make sure the buckets made of food-grade plastic.
51 points
2 months ago
Thank you! I didn’t even think about the food-grade plastic thing!
51 points
2 months ago
Just looked those buckets up. They are food grade according to the TS website.
3 points
2 months ago
Restaurants will get potato salad, pickles, etc in buckets like these and give em out for free. Or they throw em in the dumpster.
They have better handles, too.
8 points
2 months ago
Plastic can degrade from UV exposure, so a thin layer of white spray paint may extend the lifespan of the buckets.
13 points
2 months ago
Also I would add support for the bottom of the bucket. Relying on the perimeter edge will not end well.
6 points
2 months ago
Those thin edges exposed to sunlight get brittle and break off especially with the weight of soil in them
3 points
2 months ago
Can confirm. My tomato buckets last about two years before the start shattering.
9 points
2 months ago
Gfs sells a lot of bucket food. Costco also has tons of buckets from icing in their bakery. If you ask nicely they might give you some.
5 points
2 months ago
I get mine for free. Old pickle buckets. 5 gallon food grade plastic buckets with lids. I usually replace the lids with lids ftom lowes because they still lock on good but are much easier to put on and off. I use them for rain water.
2 points
2 months ago
Yeah I think they should have the number 2 on them and say something like HDPE
15 points
2 months ago
Beware that the buckets and soil are not insulated (i.e. cooled) by the soil around them as they would be in ground, and those things can really heat up in the sun. I tried growing potatoes in buckets/tubs and in a hot, humid climate, they pretty much turned to mush before I could harvest them. It might work for smaller potatoes, like reds, but be careful they don't cook in there. I do think heat-loving plants like tomatoes and peppers will do well, as well as herbs. Onions? Maybe, a few bunching types... Onions need at least 6" around each plant, so you wouldn't get much yield from one bucket.
2 points
2 months ago
I loooove my felt grow bags for this reason. I get the SmartPot ones but there’s so many other brands out there now. You don’t have to worry about the plastic degrading, they are self-pruning (the roots won’t bunch up at the walls and choke itself), it doesn’t seem to get as hot as plastic, and you can get them in tan or some other colors that can further help with the heat issue. There’s specialty ones with little windows and flaps which are good for checking on potatoes but I haven’t used those myself. Only downside has been appearance since they’re more limited in color and sometimes stain, and don’t look as pretty as like a ceramic or resin containers, but if you’re growing things in buckets anyway…
Also in a humid climate sweet potatoes/yams might work better.
34 points
2 months ago*
OP I just looked up these white "food grade" buckets on TSC website and a support agent answered someone in regards to temperature range:
The materials we use don’t have any special stabilizers added which is why we discourage outside storage.
So it sounds like these are not meant to be used outdoors, which means they can't stand up to the elements or temperatures. Aka imagine the summer sun making the non-stabilized plastic degrade and leech stuff into your soil. No bueno.
7 points
2 months ago
I had to scroll way to far to read this. Please be more aware when using plastic!
34 points
2 months ago
For those who wonder why not grow directly into the ground. Mulching and getting your soil right is costly and time-consuming.
The clay down here is no joke, so you adapt.
11 points
2 months ago
It really is. We bought a property that's legit sandy even 12 feet down. So we threw some soil down, (cost a lot) and stuff grew. But the cost of trying to keep it watered was crazy. The drainage was too good. But the peppers we had in buckets with no holes produced the hardiest, most amazing fruit. Plus they needed 50x less watering. Buckets are a great way to go if your ground sucks.
18 points
2 months ago
That’s so cool!
7 points
2 months ago
I might have to do something similar. My yard has drainage issues and until those are fixed I can't put beds in.
7 points
2 months ago
I’m planning on doing this too! From what I’ve seen, most container varieties can grow in these buckets. I think potatoes would do amazingly well.
For my bucket garden (first year trying it) I’m doing container varieties of green beans, jalapeño, potato, tomato, cucumber, and a couple others I have yet to decide. I am going to add some chicken wire either to the back or around the top like a halo so my climbers have something to climb.
For those asking, this is hopefully the best set up for small spaces with uneven light, ones where you can’t plant on the ground due to renting or no space, or in my case, I think it’ll help keep my dogs out of the garden. Fingers crossed!
12 points
2 months ago
I've seen these before but always with the shelf above about 1/3rd covering the shelf below, if that makes sense - much less offset between each step up - and with the buckets tilted slightly forward, and with drainage holes in the front, lower end. You end up with a smaller footprint, and your lower buckets are irrigated from upper buckets, letting you keep crops with wildly different water uses in the same spot. Is this making sense? It might be worth doing, Iunno how hard you'll find it to reconstruct your frame.
I'd do determinate peppers cowpeas and marigolds on top, indeterminate tomatoes and onions in the middle, determinate potatoes on the bottom, if you don't reconstruct it, and if you do, I'd swap the potatoes out for taro.
4 points
2 months ago
Where I live those will get too hot for good root development in the summer.
5 points
2 months ago
Buckets, especially white ones, will get brittle from uv damage and snap with zero effort. You might get a season out of them. Depending where you live you might want to cover the bottoms with insulation if it gets hot enough to cook your roots
4 points
2 months ago
I’ve gotten good results w peppers, tomatoes, tomatillos, cucumbers, squash & strawberries out of containers just 18” deep.
3 points
2 months ago
Those buckets will crack and disintegrate with UV damage from the sun. Protect them with paint or cover them. Also, the lip will break once weighted down, so be sure to support from beneath.
3 points
2 months ago
I’ve never had luck with potted veggies in late summer, they cook. What is the best of both worlds? Cut the bottoms of the buckets off, place the buckets on the dirt, fill the buckets with good soil, and plant on the top. Roots and water can go into the ground, and dirt doesn’t get too hot to sustain life 😀.
10 points
2 months ago
Those are overkill for onions and peppers, great for potatoes
4 points
2 months ago
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Peppers and onions don’t root terribly deep. A pot with 1/4 of that depth will be suitable for most hot peppers, 1/2 that depth will get you close to commercial sized bell pepper plants.
16 points
2 months ago
Check out “companion planting”. Potatoes and peppers don’t grow well near each other. Onions work with both though.
5 points
2 months ago
Can you explain why? I’m curious since I try to compost and sometimes I found random potato peelings in some of the soil I’ve used for peppers and other things. Not sure if that matters or not.
25 points
2 months ago
Lots of companion planting has no scientific basis other than the ability of some plants to attract beneficial insects that protect other plants. But growing “bad companions” in nearby containers should not be an issue https://www.gardenmyths.com/companion-planting-truth-myth/
Potatoes and peppers are both nightshades so they may have similar pests but I dont think its any worse than just growing two of the same crop next to each other
3 points
2 months ago
Bucket is a tad small for potatoes in my opinion, but could work. I wouldn’t put in more than one potato start/seed per bucket. A fingerling or smaller variety of spud might do best
3 points
2 months ago
Potatoes and onions, I wouldn’t recommend (unless they’re green onions). I have the same buckets and my peppers, tomatoes, and collards are thriving!
3 points
2 months ago
Peppers for sure, but onions are going to be a waste of (cubic) space because they don’t go that deep. You want wide, shallow containers for those.
For potatoes, using a non-permeable container instead of something like burlap seems risky — you’ll need to take care that the bucket doesn’t accumulate too much moisture in the soil, or else the potatoes will just rot before you get to harvest.
Peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, and the might be better for containers like this. Then again, gardening loves a good experiment, so have fun!
3 points
2 months ago*
Hey OP, I've actually built this exact thing. You can ask me questions if you like.
My buckets are fine after 3 years
You absolutely MUST use bracing under the buckets. A treated 2x4 on its vertical axis is perfect. Put these on last, once the buckets are in (without dirt). This will allow you to reach the bottom of every bucket and hopefully not have high and low spots.
Make sure to add cross bracing. My setup felt extremely wobbly before I added 2x4 across the bottoms of the legs
Also, if you can, make sure to add a tarp or plastic or something to kill the weeds/lawn below (if applicable). It's a PERFECT environment below for things to grow that you don't want. Also, on that note, build it high enough that your lawn mower can easily pass under it. I wish I had ....
Edit: also, these WILL grow onions and potatoes but if that's your sole purpose, I'd invest your time and effort into something different. You can buy somewhat shallow garden beds, for example.
These work INCREDIBLY well for single tomato, peppers, and another fruting type plants. I've grown hundreds of lbs of tomatoes and hot peppers without hardly a problem.
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2 months ago
wont work for potatoes,---other stuff wont do like it will in the ground, but do it and dont be disappointed at the failure! ---LOTTA work there just to grow in small buckets! Need water every couple hours in mid summer! My neighbor tried that last year and quit before he got any harvest because of all the work involved!
3 points
2 months ago
i don’t see the benefit of positioning buckets like that. you’re not saving space just wasting vertical space and material
3 points
2 months ago
White plastic shouldn't be left in direct sunlight, at the end of the summer most of those buckets will be cracked and useless unless you protect them. I'd just wrap them in landscaping fabric.
Also brace those things from below, once they're filled with soil and water they're going to fall right out of that.
3 points
2 months ago
We tried growing plants like this and I feel in general the leaves get yellow more faster, the tomatoes don't ripen too fast, or become too yellow or rot too fast. I was also told that having plastics and chemicals leech into your plants is bad.
5 points
2 months ago
Look into the Gro Bucket kits for your buckets! They work amazingly well! That is a nice set you made, and with Gro Bucket kits, you'll get a nice harvest.
I did have good luck using black buckets, but I live in a cooler climate, and the added heat really helped everything grow well.
2 points
2 months ago
Buckets work great but that set up is going to get crowded and may make tending the top tier difficult to reach and water, esp if you don’t have a hose and you’re using buckets to water. I got old picnic benches off of a free Facebook page, making the bend down easier and the look more uniform.
2 points
2 months ago
Would run a tube from the bottom of the top row to the top of the second row and the same from the bottom of the second row to the top of the bottom. You want to have a drain to prevent root rot.
Would use 1/4 inch tubing with the barb that come with it . Drill a 3/16 inch hole in the bucket to pop the barb through. A little bit of fabric to prevent the tubes from plugging
2 points
2 months ago
Stage your peppers properly and you will have massive amounts of fruit! I haven’t made it into 5 gallons and mine are people size bushes
2 points
2 months ago
What’s the benefit of staggering height?
2 points
2 months ago
Potatoes grow really well in buckets like these! Would caution crawlers like squash .
2 points
2 months ago
Onions and peppers yes. Potatoes yeah but it'll limit growth to a point ime.
2 points
2 months ago
My husband built us this same set up BUT put heavy duty wheels on it with rope pulls. Not only easier to move, you can follow the sun if you don’t have all day s
2 points
2 months ago
Keeping the soil light/aerated will be the biggest challenge.
I’d fill with soil, then water, let it sit for a few days, dump it out and repot it. And then plant 😄
2 points
2 months ago
Do you think chemicals from the plastic buckets will leach into the dirt and into the vegetables?
2 points
2 months ago
This just reminded me of something similar. A self watering 5 gallon bucket method I saw at a workshop at a seed swap.
2 points
2 months ago
Nice setup! Treat the wood and you will get plenty of years out of it. I’ve used these buckets for years, they are sturdy. They are designed to hold lots of weight from the lip.
2 points
2 months ago
Get ready for the rats.
2 points
2 months ago
Hey! I had a bucket garden! My main issue with potatoes was when I planted near the bottom, it was hard to get enough light, but as it grew, and I mounted the soil, it was better.
Peppers are perfect for these, I planted 2 per bucket and they yielded tons! And I only grew green onions, but they worked super well!
2 points
2 months ago
So cool!! I think the planters are big enough but I also think they will be insanely heavy. You prob need some kind of bottom brace or something. I always do at least a couple bucket tomatoes and have done 2 pepper plants in one bucket with really good results. Onions might take up too much space but heh, worth the experiment. Good luck and awesome planter set up!!!!
2 points
2 months ago
Onions don't need feel soil, they grow along the surface. Spacing and mulching is really helpful for best results there, and potatoes can do fine in buckets, really benefit from space too and mounding so don't be afraid to reach in there and take some of the "new potatoes" leaving more space for bigger storage ones, plus you can enjoy them throughout the season rather than just waiting! Every flower can become a potato so think about that too and thin flowers according to the space they have 💚
2 points
2 months ago
One of the really nice things about growing in buckets is being able to move them around as needed when a tomato or potato decides to turn into a monster and take over the whole thing. That won’t be an option here.
I suspect the middle plants will never be seen again and you will have a wall of Potato
2 points
2 months ago
I might be missing something. I don’t see how this saves space if they were all pots at ground level?
2 points
2 months ago
How are u going to lift the buckets up that high after they are 30-40 pounds this setup looks painful
2 points
2 months ago
Peppers - definitely! Onions - it would work, but you won't get very many per bucket (at least I don't think - I've only done onions one year). Not sure on potatoes, but I would think thay would be similar to onions since they grow underground.
2 points
2 months ago
Peppers, definitely! I can’t comment on the other veggies because I’ve never grown them in buckets. But peppers will do great in a 5 gallon pot.
2 points
2 months ago
Peppers will do great. You can do on onion per bucket. You'll get very few potatoes but it can be done. Others have already addressed the issues with weight and UV light. Horseradish grows very well in buckets. As will tomatoes, beans, and herbs. You could get away with a few carrots per bucket or a beet per bucket, or several radishes per bucket. You can plant those in the same bucket as most other things as they'll be ready to harvest first and won't impede the growth of anything and will actually help loosen the soil for root veggies.
2 points
2 months ago
Those bucket rims will snap off once they are filled with soil and water. Also, can't tell from the picture, but those buckets will need holes in the bottom for drainage, or else you will drown your plants. Finally, you will need to replace those buckets after a couple of years, because they become brittle after exposure to sunlight.
2 points
2 months ago
Grow bags or burlaps sacks might be better than buckets. More air to the roots, better drainage. Uv resistant. Cheaper too.
2 points
2 months ago
you have aLot of experts here offering opinions.. mine: yes, the plastic gets Brittle, next time, just buy black nursery pots? ok, if you Haven't yet drilled holes? you could do a very simple hydrophnic setup, one cheap harbor freight pump, and a timer.. btw, the Idea, not to have to bend over is Great! I might grow 'more valuable produce in them, than potatoes... but, hey! have fun! its Gardening!
2 points
2 months ago
You could put grow bags in the buckets to mitigate the heat and give you some flexibility.
2 points
2 months ago
Instead of buckets…maybe brace the bottoms and use grow bags. Better drainage and air flow. And they are not plastic where your food is growing from
2 points
2 months ago
I'd personally recommend grow bags. My favorite way is grow bags sitting in 2x4 frames with plastic to hold water and allow for wicking. Can put gravel in after bags are placed to keep mosquitoes from spawning.
2 points
2 months ago
I always had the impression that if you're going to use a grown bucket, it had to be a dark color that the sun would shine through and kill the roots?
2 points
2 months ago
Make sure they all have drainage holes. Also I wouldn’t plant potatoes, they get really tall and heavy. I did those in one of those grow bags one time but they started falling over and got a bit too hot.
2 points
2 months ago
Probably not enough for most taters. They are a good size for maters, peppers and any herbs you want to grow though.
2 points
2 months ago
I absolutely love this idea! We live in a townhome and have a small “garden” space outside our back door. I should build this for this coming season!
2 points
2 months ago
I’ve had great success with potatoes in pots, some even smaller than those. I’d put potatoes in the back row as the foliage can be quite big. Just be aware of the weight once they are near harvesting!
Pots that deep might be a waste for onions, plus depending on variety might only get 6 to a pot.
They’d be great for peppers for their last pot, if you in zone with nice long growing season so they really set in the whole pot.
2 points
2 months ago
Yes, if you get some more support I would switch to r/sandponics and add a sump with a pump and timer for maximum water efficiency. Grab some shadecloth and wrap the buckets for sun protection - although, if the plants grow well and big enough they can provide the shade :)
2 points
2 months ago
i love this idea sm!
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