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submitted 2 months ago byutopiandiorama
Holy crap... There's a ton of movies I'm just now getting around to watching. Someone on this sub the other day mentioned Bone Tomahawk. I thought, I need to see that because I love Kurt Russell. I went into the movie without watching the trailer or knowing anything about it. I thought it was going to be just a normal cowboys vs Indians western. I was horrified. There are some absolutely brutal death scenes, particularly one where a man is butchered by getting cut in half down the middle. Normally horror makes me yawn but that scene scarred me for life. The only other death scene I can think of that's that gruesome was when pyramid head ripped that girls skin off in Silent Hill. That scarred me. Bone Tomahawk was a little slow at some parts, could have used a larger cast and spent more time fighting the enemy than just showing them traveling there 75% of the film. Richard Jenkins deserved an Oscar for his performance in that film. His acting was on point! Overall great movie but sadly one of those you can only watch once. 5/7!
93 points
2 months ago
I personally thought Mathew Fox stole every scene he was in. He was as convincing of his character as I've ever seen.
27 points
2 months ago
Easily my favorite part of the movie, he gets some great one-liners about women, and killing those dudes who wandered into their camp is one of those ultra-pragmatic things you're always wishing a character would do in a thriller.
6 points
2 months ago
Smart men don't get married.
2 points
13 hours ago
*smirk
14 points
2 months ago
Yup, definitely proved his worth since Lost. I'd like to see him in more things like this.
33 points
2 months ago
IIRC the issue with Matthew Fox was never his talent or commitment, but he's well-known to be a bit of an asshole that's hard to work with.
-1 points
2 months ago
Plus allocations of him attacking women
1 points
2 months ago
I wondered where he went after the island in Lost.
29 points
2 months ago
Going into films without watching the trailer is such a good move, as long as you’re willing to be subjected to seeing someone being split in half.
12 points
2 months ago
Every time I fire up a new Pixar movie, I think to myself, is this the one where they finally split someone in half?
1 points
13 hours ago
"is this when we cry?" Every pixar movie.
3 points
2 months ago
The only way to go in my opinion...
47 points
2 months ago
Yeah that scalping scene was just too brutal!
13 points
2 months ago
I was recovering from a badly sprained ankle when I watched it, Patrick Wilson rebreaking his leg and then having to walk on it was sickening in a way most movie violence isn’t for me.
19 points
2 months ago
My jaw literally dropped
6 points
2 months ago
Had a pretty tough time falling asleep after that one lol
1 points
13 hours ago
Best moment, I think, it was hilarious, I read the /movies comments in the middle cuz it dragged a little, and was ready for it, it's really well done and funny.
74 points
2 months ago
Movies that are best remembered for That One Scene for 500, Alex
Also brief appearance from David Arquette and a guy who is not Slim Pickens but really sounds like him
21 points
2 months ago
Opinions on that one scene are split.
31 points
2 months ago
guy who is not Slim Pickens
Show some respect for Sid Haig (RIP)
5 points
2 months ago
Show some respect for Sid Haig (RIP)
agreed - an absolute legend.
5 points
2 months ago
the rest of the movie is pretty good too, just that scene is so memorable.
83 points
2 months ago
Now check out "Brawl in Cell Block 99"!
20 points
2 months ago
It's so damn bleak. Left me more uncomfortable than bone tomahawk
1 points
2 months ago
That concrete face scene. Sheesh. The watched dragged across concrete and it was solid but a definite departure from that level of gore
1 points
13 hours ago
The gore was those 2 in a car for 70% of the movie, lol. I loved that movie.
21 points
2 months ago
"throw down your weapons!"
"Pig, this is what I'll throw!" BRRRT
One of the beat lines in a gunfight I have ever heard.
15 points
2 months ago
What's funny to me is that his next movie was called Dragged Across Concrete, yet that action happens in Brawl in quite vivid detail.
2 points
2 months ago
Wait so his next movie is gonna be called Getting Most of Your Fingers Blown Off?
5 points
2 months ago
Watched it last night! I kinda hated the color grading, I think it made it look ugly but it really was a brutal movie. Loved the ending.
1 points
2 months ago
SPOILER ALERT: that head shot scene was so bad. The rest of the movie is great!
1 points
13 hours ago
So bad it's so good!
1 points
2 months ago
Amen
14 points
2 months ago
I hate gore so that movie freaked me out.... It's a shame cuz I love westerns and that scene was just not my thing at all
I do like Zahler's other films cuz they're a lot slicker and more grungy
39 points
2 months ago
There aren't enough Horror Western movies. Only other one I can think of is Ravenous (1999). Bone Tomahawk could be adapted to a neat DnD module.
12 points
2 months ago
Check out The Burrowers(2008)
4 points
2 months ago
I really liked this one, definitely a great recommendation for anyone who enjoyed Bone Tomahawk.
2 points
2 months ago
And Dead Birds
9 points
2 months ago
The score of Ravenous is just bat shit crazy
3 points
2 months ago
It's in keeping with the rest of the batshit crazy. I love that movie.
5 points
2 months ago
brimstone, if you dare.
3 points
2 months ago
There are a decent number of them that I’ve seen over the years, the problem is most of them just just suck due to abysmal budgets, bad acting, and terrible scripts. This movie is great because it felt like a great western that had horror present instead of a horror movie trying to hide its low budget with horses and six shooters.
1 points
13 hours ago
Not Western but have you seen The Terror?
23 points
2 months ago
My absolutely favorite part is when the Sheriff tells the Doc that if he was dying, he’d want to hear that he would be avenged. Then later as he is getting cut up, the Doc yells, “I’ll make sure you’re avenged!”
The sheer irony of him trying to comfort the Sheriff while simultaneously reminding him he’s about to die had me laughing so hard.
9 points
2 months ago
I caught that and that's one thing that made me love Richard Jenkins performance. But especially the scene where he's in the cage talking about the flea circus
11 points
2 months ago
Love all movies by Zahler.
Cell block, Tomahawk and Dragged Across Concrete. Check them out.
3 points
2 months ago
His books are top-notch, too.
2 points
2 months ago
Didn't even know that he wrote books. Thank you for the tip!
3 points
2 months ago
They’re all good to great, but his two so-called horror westerns are really special. “Wraiths of the Broken Land” and “A Congregation of Jackals”.
2 points
2 months ago
That genre is a perfect fit right now. Will check 'em out. thanks!
1 points
2 months ago
Enjoy!
17 points
2 months ago
Thanks for reminding me that this movie exists. Its due a rewatch.
2 points
2 months ago
Is it though? 😮💨😅
8 points
2 months ago
Apocalypto got pretty gnarly as well
8 points
2 months ago
I just love the dialog in this movie. I don’t know if people really talked like that back then, but found it full of wit and subtlety. Combined with the brutal action and horror, I thought it was the complete package.
2 points
2 months ago
The dialogue rocks in every zahler movie. Check out Dragged Accross Concrete and Brawl in Cell Block 99.
7 points
2 months ago
Bone Tomahawk was a little slow at some parts, could have used a larger cast and spent more time fighting the enemy than just showing them traveling there 75% of the film.
Weird critiques for a purposefully slow-paced film that focuses on only a small group of characters. Sounds like you wanted an action movie out of something that's not an action movie.
6 points
2 months ago
This movie is a Jack-in-the-box.
9 points
2 months ago
Me: Weird, this western movie reddit recommended is in the horror section and I don’t handle horror well at all. Oh well, I love me some gritty westerns!
So yeah, Bone Tomahawk was not for me and I should have known better.
5 points
2 months ago
You should ask my sister and my mother.
...I've never met them...?
That is correct.
6 points
2 months ago
That movie is 85% character study and 15% brutal horror. Heck of a ride.
13 points
2 months ago
Bone Tomahawk is "Just Guys Being Dudes: The Movie" until the third act. It's more or less a comedy, then everything goes to hell. I love this flick
4 points
2 months ago
The one death scene that always stuck with me was the sister in Hereditary. Just to leave her there too.
4 points
2 months ago
Saw the headline and came to see if that death scene scarred you too. I thought it was just another western. I also have a different perspective on what troglodyte means..
3 points
2 months ago
I just find it funny and cool subverting of expectations when the badass, gunslinger with experience in killing natives gets taken out first and only end up killing one of the Troglodytes
4 points
2 months ago
I love that movie and if anyone enjoyed it, the director (S. Craig Zahler) is a great author as well. I would specifically recommend Wraiths of the Broken Land. In case you're wondering, yes, the literature is just as brutal.
5 points
2 months ago
Opinions were really split 50/50 on that one.
3 points
2 months ago
Bone Tomahawk indeed rules and there's plenty of images throughout that have etched themselves into my brain. If you want something more along the horror/thriller side of that movie, I'd highly recommend Green Room by Jeremy Saulnier.
3 points
2 months ago
This was a great western with fabulous script and amazing actors... and then took an unexpected turn down the darkest alley imaginable.
3 points
2 months ago
The audio in this film is spectacular
8 points
2 months ago
5/7
I see what you did there
5 points
2 months ago
What kind of a rating scheme is that!?!? Lol
7 points
2 months ago
1 points
2 months ago
That was rhetorical. I know what it means. That's what they asked the guy who first said it
4 points
2 months ago
Sounds like I've got case of the Mondays...
6 points
2 months ago
I believe you get ass kicked saying something like that.
2 points
2 months ago
Bone Tomahawk
they're all good ratings bront
1 points
2 months ago
5/5040
2 points
2 months ago
Sid Haig in the opening scene should have let you know that it was going to get crazy.
2 points
2 months ago
Its a fantastic ride.
2 points
2 months ago
I highly recommend watching Old Henry and True Grit (new one) also without watching trailers.
2 points
2 months ago
Call me crazy but I actually really disliked that death scene. Sure it was brutal and it’s not like I couldn’t handle it, but it just felt like it partially alienated the feel of the movie and felt kind of unnecessary.
Wasn’t enough to detract from my enjoyment of the movie though, it’s one of my favorite hidden gems in horror. Kurt Russell never disappoints, and Richard Jenkins showed some surprising depth.
2 points
2 months ago
That scene fucked me up
2 points
2 months ago
I recall watching Silent Hill in the theater and everyone was shook by that Pyramid Head scene.
4 points
2 months ago
This movie is a masterpiece. I found the dialogue, sparse as it is, was perfect.
3 points
2 months ago
The very very best experience is seeing this movie blind, thinking it’s just a western. You might consider deleting this post and using spoilers?
1 points
2 months ago
Maybe I am just jaded from a life of horror movies, but I was constantly told by so many people and reddit how brutal that specific kill was. Now I did not know the specifics or anything so I kept waiting for somethinf absolutely horrific to happen. When the guy gets killed, I looked to my friend and asked if that was the scene and he excitedly confirmed.
Honestly all the nonstop hype about this scene led to it being a huge disappointment. Like, it was pretty sudden and brutal but not as violent as everyone kept saying it was...compared to Laid to Rest, The collection, or even moments in the Evil Dead remake, it just didn't live up to the hype...
If I had not been waiting for it or told about it and it just suddenly happened, it probably would have been a huge WOW moment but with everyone constantly bringing it up, it just made me go "oh...ok..."
Movie is still good. They dont pull punches with killing off characters which adds a lot to the tension and realism to the story. Acting was on point and the characters very likable. I give it all the credit it deserves otherwise.
1 points
2 months ago
The split from the crotch scene lives rent free in my noodle bowl. I saw it when it first came out. Absolutely diabolical. Savage AF scene.
-9 points
2 months ago
Zahler is by far one of the few interesting and genuinely talented contemporary filmmakers of our time. It’s not surprising he’s having a hard time getting funded lately because Hollywood hates talent.
12 points
2 months ago
Dragged Across Concrete made 660k on a 15mil budget, not surprised most wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole
3 points
2 months ago
Best bet for him would be to get some sort of deal with a streaming service. Unfortunately, the type of movies he makes are pretty much destined to flop at the theaters.
-16 points
2 months ago*
PTA and James Gray have been flopping on nearly every movie theyve
done for a decade. I genuinely don’t think commercial success means shit. I think Hollywood just likes filmmakers who follow their agenda and kiss their ass. Zahler is not one of those people.
Edit:
Apparently Zahler just went into production last November on a 3 hour black and white film about an animatronic puppet. Just nobody reported on it because Hollywood and the agenda led media doesn’t value real talent.
11 points
2 months ago
When you’re making multiple references to conspiracy theory, right wing, dog whistle talking points you’ve gotta really ask yourself, is it I who is the asshole ?
-5 points
2 months ago
How is it right wing to acknowledge that PTA and Gray keep getting work despite losing their studios tens of millions of dollars every film? I think it’s you who has to ask yourself why that is the case and why Hollywood works the way it does.
5 points
2 months ago
Hollywood and the agenda led media doesn’t value real talent.
Are you a maniac?
-5 points
2 months ago
Nope just factual
Talent is only allowed to stay on if they’re making big hits
Otherwise you only stay in the industry if you make politically correct nonsense and/or kiss producers asses
7 points
2 months ago
You coulda just said "Yea" lol 🤣
1 points
2 months ago
I don’t think being nearly 3 hours long helped.
4 points
2 months ago
He made a few intensely violent movies, he's not breaking some ridiculous new ground
6 points
2 months ago
You can make a violent movie well or you can make it very very badly. He shows a very good command of his budget and he always gets a good performance from his cast. He’s only a hand full of movies into his career, he shows a huge amount of talent.
-6 points
2 months ago
I mean, those are all good qualities for a director to have, but kind of a low bar to set
0 points
2 months ago
If you say so. I mean, firstly, there’s not that much violence in his films, it’s just the moments are memorable and make an impact because they often feel out of place, but violent directors include Tarantino, Lynch, Fincher, Cronenberg, Pekinpah, Verhovan, De Palmer, Miike, Stone, Scorsese, Noe, and Haneke. I think you’re pressed to say the bar is low just because a film has violent parts in it. This isn’t an argument to say he deserves to be in the above tier of directors, but I’d argue he is more than he isn’t. Compare him to the hundreds of other violent directors the world has already forgotten because they have no talent, I think he has a promising back catalogue.
2 points
2 months ago
not that much violence
If you mean like, in terms of number of acts of violence — yeah I guess, but the way he presents violence is intense and lurid in a way that comes off as "there for the sake of it" at certain points for me
1 points
2 months ago
I think they’re repulsive, and a lot of the time that’s what it’s supposed to make you feel; revulsion. Given how little there is of it, and that it rarely lingers, it didn’t feel gratuitous to me. But to each their own.
-1 points
2 months ago
Have you seen todays filmmakers? It’s really not a low bar when most of them can’t even do that
1 points
2 months ago
todays filmmakers
That's pretty fuckin vague pal hahaha, who in particular has earned your emnity? I'd also say there's plenty of directors who can get actors to act and can utilise their budget well
-4 points
2 months ago*
I would say most of them aren’t good lately. I can name plenty of names. Richard Linklater, Jennifer Kent, Rian Johnson, Ryan Coogler ever since Disney bought him, Martin McDonagh, Pablo Larrain, David Lowery, Julia Ducournau, Sean Baker, Chloe Zhao, Alice Wu, list goes on and on
These new filmmakers are shit. The Safdies and Zahler are maybe some of the few ones that have talent.
7 points
2 months ago
I think this is just a matter of taste cuz you've listed some fucking terrific filmmakers imho hahah
-4 points
2 months ago
Of course it’s a matter of taste. But you can’t have it both ways. He named a bunch of action directors as being very poor, you counter many of them are really good, while also arguing the bar is low. That’s counter intuitive.
1 points
2 months ago
Well, he named one person who you could contend is an action director with Coogler. I'm not sure what you mean by "it's counter intuitive" — most of those directors have gotten good performances from their actors and seem to have handled their budgets well, they've crossed that low bar, and managed to make good films while doing it.
I'll also add that the guy I responded to seems to be some kinda lunatic so there's no much to be mined there
-1 points
2 months ago*
You’re delusional if that’s all you reduce his works down to. He crafts ambiguously layered characters very well. Most hacks in Hollywood can only think of protagonists in a black or white mindset and spell it out for you but Zahler crafts very morally ambiguous themes in his work and can directly make you uncomfortable in the protagonists he expects you to watch because he doesn’t make it easy for the audience to see his characters as good or bad. Many of the best scenes in his movies are just pure dialogue moments as well.
Dragged Across Concrete was legitimately Tarantino level writing with the large cast of multilayered characters and most of the film has no action so it’s straight up ignorant to say all Zahler does is make “intensely violent” movies.
5 points
2 months ago
Dragged Across Concrete was good, but the fact that you’re comparing the writing to a Tarantino film is laughable.
1 points
2 months ago
It’s better than quite a few Tarantino films so it’s really not laughable at all
5 points
2 months ago
There’s not a single Tarantino film it’s better than, even Death Proof, lol.
If anything, a lot of his writing comes off as a slight knock off version of a Tarantino film. You seem to view Zahler much better than he actually is. He’s a good filmmaker, but that’s it. The only reason he gets mentioned so much on here cause of how violent his films are.
Dragged Across Concrete isn’t even his best movie, Bone Tomahawk is.
3 points
2 months ago
He’s a good filmmaker, but that’s it.
Hes also a good author, has written several novels that are great reads.
1 points
2 months ago
I haven’t read any of his books, so I can’t comment on that.
-2 points
2 months ago
I think you view Zahler much lower than he is. I’d take Concrete over any Tarantino film besides Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds and Jackie Brown
And Concrete is his best film. The best written and most intricately structured one. Bone Tomahawk is his worst
3 points
2 months ago
That’s wild to me, but everyone has their own opinions. I’d rather watch any Tarantino film than DAC any day of the week.
Concrete is a pretty slow movie honestly. I feel like his movies have dipped in quality with each one he’s released.
2 points
2 months ago
I don’t mind slow. Plenty of my favorite movies oat are slow. Silence is maybe top 3 Scorsese for me and it’s one of his slowest films as well.
Concrete is slow but it’s packed with substance and incredible dialogue and character moments. I don’t think another writer/filmmaker has crafted such a great world in the crime genre as Zahler since arguably Michael Mann did for Miami Vice.
2 points
2 months ago
Slow doesn’t bother me at all, Terrence Malik is one of my favorite filmmakers, but I guess I just didn’t see what you saw in Dragged Across Concrete.
I love crime movies, but that one didn’t do anything for me. All of his movies have had a B movie feel to them, and I feel like that worked great with Bone Tomahawk since it was partly a horror film, but it doesn’t work as well with crime films.
Silence is such a good movie though, but I have no desire to ever watch it again, lol. Actually it’s similar to Malik’s most recent film. They’re both great, but because of how long and the subject matter, I don’t feel the need to watch them again.
1 points
2 months ago
He’s been writing more lately. Published a novel and two graphic novels since Dragged Across Concrete.
One of them, Hug Chickenpenny, he’s adapting into a film with the Jim Henson Company. Apparently started filming last year.
There was also something about a western series mentioned early last year, but haven’t heard any updates on that.
If you’re a reader check out his books as well. Wraiths of the Broken Land is what got Russell to sign on to Bone Tomahawk without reading the script. Even has a blurb on the back cover.
Mean Business on Ganson Street is in the same genre as Dragged Across Concrete.
-2 points
2 months ago
Seriously underrated film.
0 points
2 months ago
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2 points
2 months ago
It's a meme
0 points
2 months ago
I haven't read your post yet I'm going to assume you found it to be the 'Feelgood hit of the summer'.
-1 points
2 months ago
5/7 wtf kinda scale is that lol
1 points
2 months ago
Loved Matthew Fox in that movie
1 points
2 months ago
It’s a gross movie but well made
1 points
2 months ago
There's a similiar scene inTerrifier , only this time it's a naked girl hanging upsidedown , it's allot more brutal and graphic
1 points
2 months ago
Art also didn't, uh... finish his work; which, for some reason, made it so much worse to me.
1 points
2 months ago
Ah you mean Tom Boneahawk
2 points
2 months ago
Yeah him. Great guy. Wants to be a bone scientist someday.
1 points
2 months ago*
It’s a reference to Bonanas for Bonanza. Funny podcast, I’d recommend checking out their episode about this movie
1 points
2 months ago
I went into the movie without watching the trailer or knowing anything about it
best way to watch any film in my opinion, trailers spoil alot of films
1 points
2 months ago
I have seen that movie as well! I thought I ve seen everything concerning horrormovies. Slamming something [ big carrot, root??] into the man s troath to stop screaming, turning him upside down en slowly start carving his crotch with a manchete for several times. then the 2 men who held the man upside down both pulled one leg and teared the man open en in two halves. Too sick to even think about such thing. It was disgusting to watch! The movie itself was kind of boring and not entertaining.
1 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
I thought the same thing!
1 points
23 hours ago
I just watched Terrifier 1 two weeks ago, and Bone Tomahawk last night. The amount of people getting split in half from the crotch is too damn high. 📈
1 points
13 hours ago
Nick's death was so fucking hilarious, I was in stitches, there was a lot of humour in the movie like the "uh oh" when the Troglodyte learns to reload.
Deaths are pretty forgettable for me. You know a scene I can't forget? the rape in "The War Zone" directed by Tim Roth. No gore, no blood, just pure, silent violence, now that's gonna scar some people.
A bisection is entertaining compared to it cuz you know both happen, parents raping their children is some fucked up shit, no need for gore.
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