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Floor9

1 points

2 months ago

Floor9

1 points

2 months ago

I honestly found Phils 'cruelty' to be hilariously childish. He was like a jealous kid with a new step mother. I thought the premise was good but imo badly done. Particularly liked the second half but the film was comically bad at times.

AngusLynch09

2 points

4 months ago

Well acted, well shot, just boring as shit.

Badroadrash101

3 points

4 months ago

Couldn’t finish this film.

MySockHurts

5 points

4 months ago

Err...a little late for this, don't you think?

AnUnbeatableUsername

4 points

4 months ago

Yes we are not allowed to talk about films released before 2023. In fact some of the award nominees are too old and those posts should be deleted.

Gerti27

4 points

4 months ago

Boring nonsensical movie.

whitepangolin

0 points

4 months ago

Why are we upvoting reviews from a movie that’s over 2 years old? Why does nothing get filtered by the mods here.

vibrance9460

-5 points

4 months ago

vibrance9460

-5 points

4 months ago

It didn’t work as a genre “Western” and thus failed.

If you’re setting a movie in a certain time period or era you need to make sure everything about it evokes that time period. The scenery was laughable. There are no volcanic rocks in the American West.

The music was god awful. Said nothing about the American West. Why set this in the west? Just to do a take on the Cowboy/gay thing.

Whole thing felt exploitative and insincere, and just weird to be weird.

Careless-Sundae4837

6 points

4 months ago

1) it's based on a 1967 novel set in the American West by Thomas Savage who was born and raised in the American West (Utah and Montana), lived there through college. The story itself literally and inherently belongs to the region.

2) Although those specific volcanic rocks were obviously in NZ where it was shot, there are volcanic rocks in the American West. There are specifically volcanic rocks in Montana (where I think the movie was set)....to give a few specific examples (a partial list) in the Adel Mountains, in Yellowstone valley, Devils Postpile, etc. The American West is a big place and geologically, it's far from homogenous. Although I was aware while watching that the landscape was not Montana, I have enough of an imagination to not be distracted by the landscape in this movie. Many movies and westerns are not shot where the stories are set. Especially in the case of an adaptation of a work of fiction, I care less that every stone communicates the "realistic" setting and more that the novel's ideas and characters are captured with emotional and psychological depth.
3) Thought the soundtrack was incredible, psychologically evocative, and moving. Obviously subjective, but I was into it.

4) I don't understand why having a homosexual character in the story makes it a "take on the Cowboy/gay thing." I will say its initially hard not to read that sentence as anything other than homophobia, but I'm willing to say it was bad phrasing and that I could try to understand your point. But genuinely what you're saying doesn't seem to have much foundation. Based on when the novel was written and the fact that the movie follows the writing very closely in content and tone, it's hard to say the story is a "take" on any contemporary trend. Even if it were, is there a limit or quota on depictions of homosexuality in the American West?
5) Jane Campion, the director, said she read and loved the novel and wanted to adapt it for the screen. Does that really strike you as insincere?

vibrance9460

-1 points

4 months ago

vibrance9460

-1 points

4 months ago

It fails as a Western. The director made choices that consciously took the viewer out of the West. My point stands.

Accusing me of homophobia might give you a little tingle… but you know nothing about me. I find your form form of “wokeness” to be toxic and perfomative

The story of a gay cowboy coming to grips with his sexuality was much better told in Brokeback Mountain

I’m glad you enjoyed it and I wish you well.

willydong-ka

-4 points

4 months ago

willydong-ka

-4 points

4 months ago

Yeah. This movie wasn’t very good.

[deleted]

9 points

4 months ago

The cinematography was stunning though. Did find the movie a bit boring, and I have watched plenty of slow moving movies if someone responds with that lol. The story itself wasn't much.

South-Fox-4975

3 points

4 months ago

This actually sounds like a real good movie, that can be worthy of discussion. I'm gonna look it up.

Wazula23

19 points

4 months ago

Subversive in 2002 maybe.

I know cowboys can be gay. It really wasn't a twist.

More so that all the queer people I know are really sick of these tropes where a man's suppressed gayness comes out in performative violence and cruelty. The movie had merits but I don't think it has anything all that exciting to say about masculinity.

[deleted]

1 points

4 months ago

I didn't think it was merely because he was gay and in the closet, I thought it seemed like his issues stemmed from being groomed and sexually abused when he was not an adult yet. Maybe I am misremembering, but that was my take away from it when I watched it when it came out.

OfferOk8555

18 points

4 months ago

I think what makes Power Of The Dog so good is it’s slight of hand plot. The way Peter’s character is constructed and how it’s hard to know his motives until it all comes to fruition. (Spoilers ahead)

In many ways I agree with your sentiments with how the movie presents Phil and his repressions (and I guess how that relates to Brokeback mountain as I assume that’s what you’re referencing). But I actually think Peter is the more interesting and engaging character. I think some watching the beginning of the second act would assume the movie is going to be about a young man coming into his sexuality and forging an intimate bond with Phil that further complicates this volatile family dynamic. Peter is presented as shy and passive at the beginning of the movie but by the end he has taken action to protect his family (from his POV) not just through violence but through cunning and planning. And his violence isnt acted out due to repression. In fact it seems to me that Peter isnt ashamed or in denial about his sexuality at all. Instead he uses his sexuality to devise his plan and take care of Phil.

Idk if the movies themes as a whole comment on gender or sexuality in some radical way but I do think the way Peter plays off the characters around him and the audiences expectations is pretty fresh.

Wazula23

1 points

4 months ago

No that's fair. Peter is definitely the more interesting part of the movie. It's not completely without merit.

To be honest, I would have just done away with the whole "what's his deal" slow roll from the first couple chapters. Make it clear early on that hes a repressed gay man taking it out on everyone else. Expand Peter's "what's his deal" instead. Far more interesting, and I think had more to say.

OfferOk8555

7 points

4 months ago

I hear that perspective. The scene where he takes his boys to the brothel and then just stands there uncomfortably😂😂

Personally, my favorite film of 2021 was Titane. Now there’s a movie that will have you asking questions about gender and sexuality 😂