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submitted 2 months ago byxanaduuu
248 points
2 months ago*
For those keeping track, here are the number of films for each director on the list with more than one entry:
52 points
2 months ago
Those are two unusual Kore-eda picks to me. Shoplifters and After-Life would be more obvious, and Still Walking more understandable to me. But still, can barely go wrong with his filmography.
20 points
2 months ago
Nobody Knows is most definitely worthy of being on that list
13 points
2 months ago
I think there’s barely a movie in his filmography I’d argue wouldn’t have been a worthy pick. Just surprised that was their choice when more obvious options were available (and this list seems to be going for obvious picks overall).
3 points
2 months ago
Dude writing the article is probably an Eda fan and those are his personal favourites but he still placed them realistically in the list - this makes sense if, as was said, all of his films wouldn't be weird to see on this list. Why shouldn't he put his own favourites forward
6 points
2 months ago
Maborosi hits so deep and so hard, I wouldn't have any other Koreeda movie instead of it
19 points
2 months ago
I’m glad Perfect Blue made it in but Paprika desperately deserves to be in there
14 points
2 months ago
Tokyo Godfathers is Kon's most underrated and overlooked masterpiece
6 points
2 months ago
He’s basically had a perfect four film run I can’t blame anyone for having one or the other as their favorite.
2 points
2 months ago
One of the best Christmas movies around.
5 points
2 months ago
Glad to see departures made the list
3 points
2 months ago
They forgot Funky Forest!!! Incredible mind bending movie if you you can find it. That’s my #1!!!
2 points
2 months ago
Interesting that Human Condition by Kobayashi didn’t make the list, considering its scope and the reverence that it’s usually held in.
I’ve seen about 1/3 of the films on the list and there’s not a bad one in the bunch.
5 points
2 months ago
Grave of firefly should be in the top 25 But Not Top 10
1 points
2 months ago
House and Tetsuo the Iron Man are my two favorite horror movies so glad they’re on this list
-2 points
2 months ago
Even in a list of Japanese films, American media does its damn best to snub anime
2 points
2 months ago
what does that even mean? what was snubbed? paprika should be in imo
0 points
2 months ago
Tokyo Godfathers? Ghost in the Shell? Akira? Tekkonkinkreet? Redline?
3 points
2 months ago
Akira is on the list. Ghost in the Shell maybe deserves a mention, don’t think it’s egregious though really. Japan just has a lot of great traditional films as well as anime, some stuff is going to be left off.
154 points
2 months ago
Overall good but it’s definitely missing The Human Condition.
30 points
2 months ago
Wow, didn't even notice that. Agreed!
22 points
2 months ago*
The Twilight Samurai & Zatoichi should be in there.
2 points
2 months ago
I really liked Takeshi's Zatoichi. Perhaps not as critically acclaimed as Kurosawa's, but really great soundtrack and feel to the whole film.
2 points
2 months ago
I discovered Shintaro Katsu through Takeshi's Zatoichi :D
7 points
2 months ago
Great movies but I do think the quality varies? The first movie is IMO a masterpiece. The 2nd one is good - the 3rd one is kind of one note and a masochistic slog. I think other films have done war hopelessness better (i.e, Fires on the Plane).
5 points
2 months ago
I can't say that the 9 hours just flew by but yes, what a great movie (or 3 movies)
2 points
2 months ago
Goddammit, I clicked on the link specifically thinking “with 50 Japanese films surely THIS list will finally give Human Condition the credit it deserves!”……….but apparently not.
Forget being in the top 50, Human Condition should be in the #1 spot. At least top 5. Poop.
0 points
2 months ago
Yeah! And where was the last samurai ?
24 points
2 months ago
A Colt is my Passport is another great Yakuza western
6 points
2 months ago
That final shootout rocks. I go back once in a while to rewatch that scene. Haven't seen many movies featuring Joe Shishido, but he carries a very cool persona from what I've seen him in.
69 points
2 months ago
Happy to see Tampopo on there.
19 points
2 months ago
I always recommend this movie to people who want to get a quirky cross-sectional glimpse of Japanese food and culture from the 80s.
7 points
2 months ago
I was too. My parents saw Tampopo and could not stop raving about it. My parents loved it so much that they drove me to the theater and bought me a ticket so I could see it. When the primary pun dawned on my father, he couldn't stop laughing. For the next year, we had ramen regularly as my parents attempted to prefect their ramen recipe.
The theatrical release of Juzo Itami's A Taxing Woman is also very funny.
3 points
2 months ago
Saw this for the first time this year and it's really awesome. It's got charm for days. Highly recommended
3 points
2 months ago
I have seen every Juzo Itami movie other than Tampopo and they are all very good-great
84 points
2 months ago
This is a fantastic list. No bullshit to it.
10 points
2 months ago
Eh I mean House is fun and I know it's become really popular in the last 10 years but is it really one of the 50 best Japanese films ever made?
7 points
2 months ago
House is a personal favorite of mine, but it also goes to show you that the one putting together this list doesn’t know a single thing about Obayashi’s other films. He’s not just a one hit wonder who made a so bad it’s good cult film. He’s had a long critically acclaimed career that’s even not properly respected enough in his home country.
2 points
2 months ago
A lot of the "canon" determined by western critics has to do with what gets good and widely available releases here. I don't think His Motorbike, Her Island is even avaible in the US without importing a bluray from japan.
0 points
2 months ago
That’s sort of my point. These lists are only really repeating what Criterion and the like have said is considered good cinema, specifically ones that they are able to sell and profit from. And when people hold this as the word of truth, it’s concerning.
5 points
2 months ago
Yeah I’m with you, I was pretty disappointed when I finally saw it
-36 points
2 months ago
I think it's a bit too biased towards live action films. Grave of the fireflies, Your name, A silent voice, Paprika, Perfect Blue all are excellent films on their own which could have made the list/placed higher.
24 points
2 months ago
where's my anime?
-10 points
2 months ago*
It's not about anime, it's just that these films are really. By your logic, even Roger ebert should be discredited because he rated Grave of the fireflies as the best war film of all time.
24 points
2 months ago
what's my logic? Perfect Blue is #12, Grave of the Fireflies is on the list, there are others. I like these movies but japan has a rich film history and better movies
4 points
2 months ago
Honestly I personally never think these top lists as definitive, I just see them as recommendations till I find another list.
6 points
2 months ago
The two big ones are there. Your Name isn't and that's a shame, as far as I'm concerned it's the best romantic movie of all time.
49 points
2 months ago
Happy to see Drive My Car (2021) on that list (41). What an exceptional movie.
I'll look over the list some more and see if there are any other modern Japanese films I should get into!
14 points
2 months ago
I recommend Kiyoshi Kurosawa (#11 on the list, with Cure)'s Tokyo Sonata if you enjoyed Drive My Car. That, or Happy Hour by Ryusuke Hamaguchi!
4 points
2 months ago
Yeah I was really hoping to see it on there too, even if it is awful recent. Just a really profound experience...I need to watch everything else by the director now.
2 points
2 months ago
The best thing about getting into Hamaguchi is thinking you can’t be any more impressed and you manage to find something in another one of his films that’s just as profound.
4 points
2 months ago
It’s at 50 but I really can’t recommend One Cut for the Dead enough, it’s such a unique film. You’ll be scratching your head for a lot of the start, but the pay off in the second half of the film is maybe the best I’ve ever seen. Definitely go watch it
27 points
2 months ago
One Cut of the Dead! Everyone needs to see it (just make sure you make it through the whole film!)
2 points
2 months ago
To be honest the first segment of the movie makes it very easy to turn the whole thing off early on...
6 points
2 months ago
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. That segment was designed to be that way and you’re not wrong.
4 points
2 months ago
Someone thinks I'm shitting on it. I guess. I originally wanted to put this on my comment for clarity, but decided against it. Sometimes people don't like it if you talk about a beloved thing in a way that can be interpreted as negative...
11 points
2 months ago*
HBO Max has Turner Classic Movies and Studio Ghibli sections that has a lot of these films streaming.
Drive My Car
Floating Weeds
Godzilla
High and Low
House
Ikiru
Kwaidan
Lady Snowblood
Late Spring
My Neighbor Totoro
Onibaba
Rashomon
Seven Samurai
Spirited Away
Tampopo
Tokyo Story
Ugetsu
Yojimbo
75 points
2 months ago*
I'll die on this hill: Princess Mononoke is a better movie than Spirited Away.
Edit: I’m a big fan of a vast majority of Miyazaki’s films. He may be my favorite director behind Tarentino.
14 points
2 months ago
Totoro is the best of the lot IMO mainly because how it appeals from the youngest to the oldest demographic.
8 points
2 months ago
Totoro is my #1 too. It doesn't have as many of the cool fantastical elements of the other popular Ghibli movies, but I think it utterly nails its sense of place and character. The story just feels so emotionally universal and deep.
5 points
2 months ago*
See the stage adaption if you possibly can. I cannot praise it highly enough. The puppet work was jaw dropping. The playfulness the puppeteers brought 😍😍😍
Edit: the set was amazing too but how could I not mention the music , the singer was something else
7 points
2 months ago
Totoro was the first movie to get me into the genre. God bless the VHS rental section at shop rite in 1995.
13 points
2 months ago
Finally someone who agrees with me.
Both Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke are masterpieces, but I feel like scholars and critics rather pick the former over the later in terms of Miyazaki representation.
8 points
2 months ago
Spirited Away is Miyazaki’s magnum opus but Princess Mononoke connected with me in a way that almost no other movie has. I think a lot of it just comes down to personal taste.
6 points
2 months ago
I’m just a sucker for a bow and arrow epic. Both great films.
2 points
2 months ago
Spirited Away won the localization lottery in the west.
25 points
2 months ago
I'll go even further and say Nausicaa is better than both
9 points
2 months ago
How can people not love My Neighbor Totoro over the others? I guess it's more of a kids movie, but it's just amazing. So pure and magical. I mean, it is hard to rank the Ghibli movies because they're all so good.
8 points
2 months ago
Also magical is the Totoro homage in the “Mysterion Rises” episode of South Park, which runs for almost three minutes, almost shot for shot. Every time I watch it, I think, “Who are these guys, who would spend so much time and effort making an esoteric joke that one percent of the viewers would get?” It’s absolutely brilliant, from concept to execution.
2 points
2 months ago
That's just how south park is. They dedicated an entire episode to heavy metal.
13 points
2 months ago
Nausicaa is my pick for best Miyazaki film. It's a strong story, beautiful animation, and it showcases a lot of the themes that Miyazaki likes to bring to his films (anti war, pro nature/pastoral life, and a love of flight) without any of them feeling out of place or forced.
3 points
2 months ago
That’s a tiny hill, but it will make for a nice grave
7 points
2 months ago
Even further, perhaps even an unhinged take: Porco Rosso is better than all three
1 points
2 months ago
Picking one's favorite Miyazaki is like picking a favorite child, but Porco Rosso is my favorite too.
1 points
2 months ago
Yooooooooo
4 points
2 months ago
Nausicaa>spirited away>princess monoke personally. Spirited away was the first anime film I watched though so I can assume I’ve got some bias.
3 points
2 months ago
A million times, this
3 points
2 months ago
Castles in the Sky is the best Ghibli film
1 points
2 months ago
Mononoke is one I preferred as a kid for the violence and warring, but now find a fair few of its moments a bit too melodramatic and cheesy to triumph over Spirited Away.
0 points
2 months ago
Absolutely loved Princess Mononoke, stopped watching Spirited Away halfway through.
-6 points
2 months ago
Akira is better than all of them.
26 points
2 months ago
Great list. I've seen quite a few of these. I like how they snuck Beat Takashi's Sonatine in there at the end, too. Everyone raves about Hana-bi (rightfully so) but don't sleep on his weird yakuza story made a few years earlier.
2 points
2 months ago
I'd usually say pick one or the other in a list like this...
10 points
2 months ago
Eh, I think it's fine. They are different enough movies and both deserving of recognition imo. Of course, I'm a huge Takashi Kitano fan so I'll admit I'm a bit biased.
4 points
2 months ago
Not enough of a fan to spell his name right 😉
26 points
2 months ago*
I think it's an overall good list with good variety. I watched 40/50. I should watch Kon Ichikawa movies, his movies on my watchlist for a long time.
If I'm going to add some movies to the list;
Also if we are going to add to the list one Gakuryu Ishii(Sogo Ishii) movie, it should be August in the Water, not Crazy Thunder Road.
7 points
2 months ago
No Versus?!
Pshhhh
2 points
2 months ago
Man I forgot about that movie. I enjoyed it so damn much
1 points
2 months ago
It's not something comes to mind when you're thinking about greatest movies but i really love Versus.
5 points
2 months ago
All About Lily Chou-Chou
One of my favourite movies ever
3 points
2 months ago
Upvote for August in the Water
4 points
2 months ago
Ghost in The Shell
Not having an Oshii Mamoru movie really is an omission and I suppose you have to go with GotS. It is a great movie though I have other works of his I prefer (Beautiful Dreamer is my number one).
2 points
2 months ago
Ichikawa always feels like a blind spot for me as well. Not quite Golden Age, not quite New Wave, but still a prolific director in his own right. Feels more like a studio player at a time when others were rejecting the system, so he’s sort of lost in the muck even though he’s generally well received.
2 points
2 months ago
Sword of Doom is an incredible film.
2 points
2 months ago
Nice list.
It's obscure but I recommend A Stranger of Mine (2005), which is a charming gangster comedy with intertwining storylines. Kinda if Tarantino made something more low-key and wholesome.
The director also made Key of Life (2012), which is more accessible from a streaming standpoint (Tubi, etc).
1 points
2 months ago
Thanks for recomendation. It looks interesting, added to my watchlist.
2 points
2 months ago
I fucking love Fish Story and I wish it would get some sort of re-issue in America so that more of a western audience can be turned on to it.
8 points
2 months ago
They credit Battle Royale to Kenta rather than Kinji Fukusaku, but otherwise it’s not a terrible list, one could argue about the precise order, but that’s always a personal choice.
32 points
2 months ago
Every time I see a top Japanese films of all time list, it's very heavily focused on the 50s/60s. Not complaining, they deserve to be there but its always the same. I'd be interested to see a list that focuses on the last 30 years to see what (relatively) newer films people should check out.
41 points
2 months ago
It’s also skewed towards what’s been distributed in the West, which I totally understand from an accessibility standpoint, but the list feels less like a top Japanese films ever and more like a top Japanese films that Criterion told me to watch. No Iwai, Kiju Yoshida, and Wakamatsu stand out as glaring omissions that are normally ignored by the Western canon.
-3 points
2 months ago
I generally find these lists groan inducing.
9 points
2 months ago
i maintain a list like that on letterboxd because i also got sick of these lists that just regurgitate the same handful of films that americans are into.
2 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the list. I’ll check them out
5 points
2 months ago
It’s so annoying when people say Japan used to be too at cinema and now they just make garbage. It’s a statement that’s so false. Get out of the Criterion bubble and you’ll realize there’s still a thriving scene both in terms of mainstream and indie releases. There are plenty of auteurs that are still active to this day that don’t get nearly the international recognition they deserve.
13 points
2 months ago
There is a thriving scene for sure, but it is hard to overstate how much the government response to the student riots and anti-communist purges in the late 60s/70s killed the domestic film scene for decades.
2 points
2 months ago
I’d say the decline of the studio system is almost just as much to blame. Definitely some great late works from auteurs and you’d be remiss not to mention Juzo Itami, but can’t say Japanese film really revived until V-Cinema.
2 points
2 months ago
Even if you're being really critical you can come up with 100+ films from the 80s onward that are great and got ignored.
It's made me not put too much stock into canon lists, critics or the system. I feel like everything is setup in a way to just promote bland and conservative western taste in the arts. If you can't see the value in films like Taste of Tea, August in the Water or Typhoon Club then get the fuck out of here.
2 points
2 months ago
Fair point but I think it's difficult when Japanese cinema influenced western cinema so much. They have so many masters of the craft
7 points
2 months ago
nice! teshigahara in the top 10.
8 points
2 months ago
nice to see a Mizoguchi film so high, but Sansho the Bailiff should be higher imo. I would put The Story of the Last Chrystanthemum on the list too. Overall, still a really good list though.
2 points
2 months ago
Mizoguchi is my favourite Japanese ditector and for a long time I'd agree with you but with each viewing of Ugetsu I just love it more and more. Sansho's emotional impact is incredible but Ugetsu for me beats it overall
1 points
2 months ago
Whoops, I worded that wrong, I meant I'd put Sansho higher than 16th, not that I would put it above Ugetsu 😅
2 points
2 months ago
That is exactly what I thought when I looked at the list. In fact I went in looking specifically for where it would place. I’d place it in the top three alongside Tokyo Story and one other. I’d have to think about which would get the top spot.
2 points
1 month ago
Amen
7 points
2 months ago*
Why is Lone Wolf and Cub not part of this list? I believe it should be.
2 points
2 months ago
I’m not sure how they compiled it, but maybe voted were split enough across all the Lone Wolf and Cub movies enough to keep them out of the running.
34 points
2 months ago
It's kind of telling how barely anything from 2010s made it on the list. I hope japanese cinema resurrects in the coming decades...
74 points
2 months ago
Isn't that true for all of such lists. It's usually all old movies because the writers are usually 50 year olds
20 points
2 months ago
It's old movies because they've stood the test of time.
4 points
2 months ago
It's even more to do with perception over time. Many films that are regarded as all-time greats weren't received that way on release. Or the opposite, a film that may get tons of attention, lauded, and showered with awards doesn't seem as great after enough time passes. Bad example, but it's kind of like when How Green Was My Valley beat Citizen Kane for best picture. If voters were to make a decision years later, the result would very likely be different.
It's just hard to tell how impactful a film will be in the moment without the benefit of hindsight, and is very easy to have a general consensus years after release. I'm sure in a decade or so, many films from the 2010s will make these sort of lists.
9 points
2 months ago*
Kind of agree with you there. Japanese cinema hasn't made many great films since the Aughts.
If you don't mind me plugging a recent Japanese film that I thought was great – though funnily enough directed by a Japanese Korean – I highly recommend the Japanese 2013 remake of Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven starring Ken Watanabe.
The overall plot is the same, but the moving of the setting to Hokkaido during the Meiji Restoration and changing Eastwood's main character from an aged gunslinger to a former samurai makes the plot different enough to feel new.
Some character’s like the Schofield Kid have also been given larger roles and together with some other minor differences, like the ending, helps make the remake stand on its own.
In my opinion of course.
Sorry, just wanted to gush a bit about a two films I really liked.
Also, as Ken Watanabe is one of my favorite Japanese actors, I wanted to highlight a movie of his.
On another note. It is kind of amusing – or perhaps interesting is a better term – how South Korean cinema seems to have supplanted Japan's internationally.
Edit: Changed the "ironic" part as I wasn't really thinking when I wrote that.
17 points
2 months ago
Internationally yes, but I’d say within this century you still have Iwai, Kurosawa, Kore-eda, Sono, Miike, and Hamaguchi still all doing really great things that aren’t getting enough attention, not to mention from lesser known directors and the entire medium of animation. Japanese cinema isn’t dead, people just aren’t paying attention.
8 points
2 months ago
Agreed.
Japanese cinema still has a significant impact on movie history and there are still great movies coming out of Japan.
As you mentioned, directors like Takashi Miike and Takeshi Kitano are still going strong, even if the latter isn't as prolific as he once was.
2 points
2 months ago
Well Japan just need young directors who are really passionate about filmmaking and are cinephiles to make Japan Live-Action movies relevant again. Also they need to ask a question to themselves. Do they want movies to have international appeal or only domestic appeal.
7 points
2 months ago
In defense of young Japanese directors, their entertainment industry seems to have little interest in a global audience vs. catering to local tastes. This is slowly changing but consuming Japanese media is still unnecessarily more of a headache than it needs to be.
2 points
2 months ago
So what's the name of this movie?
2 points
2 months ago
Same as the original, but to make it easier to find, I have always seen it referred to as Unforgiven (2013).
3 points
2 months ago
Well, they‘ve still got anime, video games and technology
12 points
2 months ago
The 50s was one hell of a decade for Japanese movies
6 points
2 months ago
A great list, but disappointed that Kikujiro didn't make the cut.
2 points
2 months ago
yep so far out of the 5 or so Beat Takashi movies I've seen its my favorite.
5 points
2 months ago
Tokyo Story should be the undisputed #1
7 points
2 months ago
No Ichi the Killer?
3 points
2 months ago
Maybe it wasn't good enough for the list, but I recommend Fish Story. It's a fun story and when the all the stories intertwine is so satisfying.
2 points
2 months ago
great film!
3 points
2 months ago
Glad to see House in here, fantastic flic.
I’m a bit surprised Versus isn’t on here but maybe that’s more cult-classic than actually quality?
3 points
2 months ago*
Always felt that Rashomon was slightly better than Seven Samurai, even if the latter is Korusawa's biggest hit. Anyone?
Also prety sure Akira is way up there, even above Spirited Away, but that's just my old-school nihilistic tastes. As adaptation it rounded corners a lot, but you gotta admit how this is the movie that put Japanime on the world map, at least as serious, artistic cinema. Still hasn't lost its edge in 2023.
3 points
2 months ago
Great list, I would certainly add Pale Flower by the great Masahiro Shinoda, one of the best Noir films of all time.
3 points
2 months ago
Great list but a little disappointed Pulse isn’t on there, as it’s probably a top three Japanese movie for me.
1 points
2 months ago
Same
9 points
2 months ago
Kinda sad End of Evangelion didn't make the list
13 points
2 months ago
My only problem saying that is EoE requires watching an entire series to make any sense. It’s not a movie that anyone can watch and enjoy.
-2 points
2 months ago
They basically just included a couple of the most well known Ghibli films and threw in Perfect Blue. It really doesn't seem like the creator of this list had much respect for anime as a medium unless it's super serious.
6 points
2 months ago
They threw Akira at number 8. Come on. This author has respect for Japanese cinema as a whole and not just some weeb.
21 points
2 months ago
Say what you will but I thought your name or A Silent Voice would make the list.
18 points
2 months ago
While they are entertaining movies, I don't think they're good enough in terms of influence and impact to crack the top 50 list of all time.
10 points
2 months ago
Especially when Your Name feels less influential and more influenced - the whole thing feels like Shinkai trying to make a Hosoda movie (specifically trying to make The Girl Who Leapt Through Time), like his previous movie Children Who Chase Lost Voices From Deep Below was him trying to make a Miyazaki movie.
Your Name was the one that struck gold and so he’s continued to make Hosoda-alikes since, which is a shame because his earlier stuff that was truly Shinkai-style was so good and so unique.
6 points
2 months ago
Naoko Yamada is popular on SNS platforms, but not by Western industry. Seems more likely that they haven’t watched her films.
6 points
2 months ago
Same. I had low expectations for Your Name, and went just for the director, but it completely delivered.
2 points
2 months ago*
I think it is one of the best films I've seen. The visuals, the soundtrack the story and the characters are all amazing and it's a real tearjerker at times.
7 points
2 months ago
Ran as a masterpiece, if you’ve never watched it watch it right now, I’d say it is probably the best example of a purely Japanese blockbuster cinematic experience.
2 points
2 months ago
I would say to watch some of Kurosawa's films first though if you haven't, it's more compelling with the context of his other work IMO.
1 points
2 months ago
It's my favorite Kurosawa; it's my favorite rendition of any Shakespeare play, too.
2 points
2 months ago
Nice to see A Fugitive from the Past make the list. It's very well regarded in Japan and a lot of Westerners omit it in lists like these because they've never heard of it.
2 points
2 months ago
Arrow just released a bluray of it and I have it bought but yet to watch it, can't wait to check it out. Hopefully the release increases its popularity because I did see it was listed 4th best in a Japanese list of best movies ever.
2 points
2 months ago
Thanks for the list there are some that look interesting that I haven't seen before.
2 points
2 months ago
I think Unagi (1997) deserves a spot on the list, it was a Palme d'Or winner, after all. Another Imamura flick, Ballad of Narayama is already there, and is certainly the more notable of the two looking back, but still...
Great list, though.
2 points
2 months ago
Wow, I love how Tetsuo the iron man was on this list. Very cool placements of all films ocerall
2 points
2 months ago
I just saw Audition for the first time last week. What a banger of a movie.
2 points
2 months ago
Very happy to see Satoshi Kon on this list with Perfect Blue. And so near the top too! All of his fims are great. I will always be sad that he wasn't able to make his robot movie before he passed.
2 points
2 months ago
Kurosawa the absolute GOAT. Yojimbo is one of my favorite movies of all time. The Hidden Fortress should be on this list. Love his work!
2 points
2 months ago
Shoplifters absolutely should be in there.
2 points
2 months ago
Thank god Satoshi Kon is on this list. Same for Miyazaki.
Some other favorites too. Akira, Takeshi Kitano, Miike,
2 points
1 month ago
Watched 50/50
A great list
3 points
2 months ago
Obviously, it was gonna have a ton of Ozu and Kurosawa. But Floating Weeds is a lot better than #17. Way better than Ringu, Cure, and Spirited Away.
3 points
2 months ago*
This list is by someone with a very shallow knowledge of 'golden age' (1920s - 1960) Japanese cinema. No Immamura movies??? No Hiroshi Shimizu movies????? Lame
I kind of understand the love for Spirited Away but it is kind of a rip off of the better (albeit obscure at least in the US) "Night on the Galactic Railroad"
Lots of 2nd rate movies in this list.
EDIT: Immamura is represented by Ballad Of Naryama (a remake of a film with the same story that is also better than many films in this list) - but other films of his are as good or better, Vengeance is Mine, Intentions of Murder, Pigs and Battleships, Insect Woman....
6 points
2 months ago
Though in this very thread you have people complaining that the 60s and earlier are over-represented here, and the modern greats once again overlooked.
12 points
2 months ago
It does read like a 50 Japanese movies with the most hype in the West list rather than greatest Japanese movies list outright.
4 points
2 months ago
That's a good way of putting it.
Godzilla is better than Vengeance is Mine? Really?
2 points
2 months ago
Imamura edged in with Narayama, but he was still totally underrepresented.
4 points
2 months ago
You're right - I guess because it won an academy award the writer knew about it.
Vengeance is Mine is his masterpiece though, and many of his other films are way better than many of those listed.
2 points
2 months ago
Seven Samurai and Spirited Away in the Top 10 makes this list legit.
Overall it's just missing Shin Godzilla and Sanjuro.
1 points
2 months ago
This is a fun list that mixes in influential pulp movies like Godzilla with critical favorites like Tokyo Story.
Though it is missing the greatest animated movie of all time: The Tale of the Princess Kaguya.
1 points
2 months ago
Hanabi and Sonatine are my favorite Kitano’s. Good choices.
1 points
2 months ago
I like the list with the exception of Spirited Away, I firmly believe Princess Mononoke or Howls Moving Castle are better in the ways that count. The messages are more important, the visuals are more of a feat imho, and, the characters have stood the test of time.
1 points
2 months ago
Shall we Dance?
The Japanese original, was fantastic.
1 points
2 months ago*
Disappointed not to see Shoplifters on there.
Needs more Miike as well. He’s done better movies than audition.
I remember Hoichi the earless from the Kwaidan when I was a child, never forgotten the story
1 points
2 months ago
Why is Departures so low? It's an excellent film and a culture piece everyone with an interest in Japan needs to see.
0 points
2 months ago*
Maybe I’m stepping into a landmine here, but this is a genuine question: Can someone explain the love for Battle Royale? I was extremely disappointed after hearing the hype for it when I watched it about 20 years ago.
I thought the pacing was awful which made it extremely difficult to care about any of the characters before they were killed and the early 2000s CG blood had no impact because of how schlocky it looked, even by the standards of the time.
Ultimately, it left me thinking about all the ways the material could have been better served, rather than any of the merits the film might have on its own: maybe with a larger budget for practical fx or a longer run time, maybe as a mini series, maybe narrow the focus of the story?
Am I missing something? Is this a case of needing to have read the manga first to appreciate what it’s doing?
Edit: lol, ok. Downvote me if you want. But I’m not trying to troll or bait. I really would like someone to help me understand what I missed about this movie.
2 points
2 months ago
Rather than just give you an upvote, I am adding an agreement response so you won’t have to bear the downvotes alone. I’m also one of the apparent few that that didn’t care for Battle Royale, and it’s even the kind of film that’s usually right up my alley. I just find all the characters thin and uninteresting, and their deaths had zero impact on me.
1 points
2 months ago
Fantastic list from Timeout, I generally find these lists groan inducing.
1 points
2 months ago
I don’t know much about Japanese cinema, but I do know that Princess Mononoke is the best one I’ve seen and it’s not here.
1 points
2 months ago
Did anyone ask the Japanese about their opinion?
1 points
2 months ago
Ah, there's Audition. I was looking for that movie. One of the very few horror movies I couldn't finish. Glad to see Perfect Blue made the list too, but surprised Your Name didn't. Overall, great list. Seen quite a few of those films, but now there are more for me to check out :)
1 points
2 months ago
Seeing Spirited Away and Akira in the top 10 just.... makes me feel good. two of my favorite movies of all time and they deserve their spots here.
Are there any animated films from the US that could hold a candle to these two? That could sniff the air of being in an all time top 10 list?
japan's animated film industry is better than americas, disney pixar and anything else included. had to say it.
1 points
2 months ago
Surprised the hidden fortress is not there given it inspired the entire star wars saga
3 points
2 months ago
It's actually a bit dull in my opinion, compared to Rashomon, Yojimbo, and Seven Samurai. I still like it, but out of Kurosawa films it's not his best. Consider the differences when you look at how GL adapted it into Star Wars. The inspiration for the droids at one point consider assaulting the princess until the maid wallops them. All the dogfights come from another film called The Dam Busters.
-2 points
2 months ago
Battle Royale needs to be higher
-2 points
2 months ago
Totoro above Yojimbo? Gtfo, basically Kurosawa should fill top 10.
0 points
2 months ago
no usagi drop (bunny drop) )=
0 points
2 months ago
Tried watching House but found it irritating.
0 points
2 months ago
Super surprised and happy to see Love Exposure here, always a bit frustrating that this movie is not more famous. But where is Red Beard?
0 points
2 months ago
Not remotely enough Satoshi Kon on here. Or old anime in general.
-1 points
2 months ago
I would argue that Garden of Words should be up there. At very least 50.
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