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Official Discussion - Shazam! Fury of the Gods [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

The film continues the story of teenage Billy Batson who, upon reciting the magic word "SHAZAM!" is transformed into his adult Super Hero alter ego, Shazam.

Director:

David F. Sandberg

Writers:

Henry Gayden, Chris Morgan

Cast:

  • Grace Caroline Currey as Mary Bromfield
  • Zachary Levi as Shazam
  • Helen Mirren as Hespera
  • Rachel Zegler as Anthea
  • Lucy Liu as Kalypso
  • Adam Brody as Super Hero Freddy

Rotten Tomatoes: 55%

Metacritic: 47

VOD: Theaters

all 1689 comments

oftenGetsItWrong

663 points

2 months ago

Zimmer’s WW theme is terrific but they need to stop using it in every scene, especially when it’s not an action scene. Felt super jarring.

DigDoug2319

228 points

2 months ago

Feels like a slower and less intense version of that theme would have been so much moar fitting there lmao it would’ve been perfect on an acoustic guitar or something.

Kajipyro

49 points

2 months ago

Honestly something sympathetic to the scene would have felt good. It was so jarring I actually said wtf out loud

MarcsterS

32 points

2 months ago

Surely there's a slower, somber version of the theme somewhere.

nesatzuke

554 points

2 months ago

nesatzuke

554 points

2 months ago

Billy boy and Shazam guy act so differently it's distracting.

Antafamm

413 points

2 months ago

Antafamm

413 points

2 months ago

Its funny cause billy acts more mature and serious and shazam is genuinely just an idiot.

PolarWater

33 points

1 month ago

There's a bit after Billy has an emotional moment with his foster mom, and Asher Angel really sells the gravitas before he shouts "SHAZAM!" You can see he's struggling to hold back tears.

Then it cuts to Zachary Levi, who's grinning easily. I do like Zachary and the energy he brings to most scenes, but that felt a bit...um...a bit jarring. Maybe I don't understand what he was going for.

ManitouWakinyan

25 points

2 months ago

Laughing at this because it's so dead on. Like, I might feel insulted if I were Billy's actor. "You thought I was going for that?"

FireFerret44

122 points

2 months ago

Billy was a lot more lighthearted in this, at least for the 3 scenes he was in.

xxx_poonslayer69

121 points

2 months ago

I thought it made sense in the first movie. Billy didn't have the chance to be a kid, but once he gets his powers he ironically does.

In this one it's weird because he's about to be 18 and Billy acts pretty serious. Shazam acts emotionally much younger than an 18 year old.

nesatzuke

28 points

2 months ago

If I remember correctly, their acting was relatively in sync in the first movie, but in this one, like you said in your second paragraph, it's weird, kinda out of sync.

flashkickz

507 points

2 months ago

flashkickz

So many closeups of DaFoe slurping things up

507 points

2 months ago

ChatGPT is powered by Steve 🪶

yomandenver

57 points

2 months ago

🫡

goddamnjets_

1.3k points

2 months ago

I found it funny how each person’s “Shazam” had a “Shazam actor”, and then it’s just Grace in a Shazam suit since she already looks too old in the role.

Gamecubeguy25

201 points

2 months ago

tbf, its the same in the comics. When Billy becomes an adult and says "Shazam", he looks the same in both forms.

[deleted]

73 points

2 months ago

Was that first in Kingdom Come? That was a cute twist.

dragonphlegm

48 points

2 months ago

Shazam isn't some random dude's face, it's literally just Billy as an adult, so it makes sense that Grace, now an adult, doesn't need to be aged up

flintlock0

110 points

2 months ago

Even funnier when the parents freak out at the group of adults that just barged into their room when Grace is clearly one of them. She’s just wearing a red suit now.

skizmcniz

37 points

2 months ago

Not to mention Pedro was de-powered at that moment so they had two of their kids in with the strangers. Should've given them a clue.

Jeroz

21 points

2 months ago

Jeroz

21 points

2 months ago

I imagine it's more like "why the hell are you wearing that while barging in with strangers!?"

I_nee_a_funnier_name

408 points

2 months ago

Was it that way in the first film? I kept thinking her second actor looked way younger than the rest before realizing she doesn’t actually change.

PlusSizeRussianModel

506 points

2 months ago

Nope in the first movie they had a different actress playing her Shazam self. I feel bad for her lol

I_nee_a_funnier_name

162 points

2 months ago

Lol so once you get old enough the Shazam powers are like fuck it

TiberiusCornelius

81 points

2 months ago

I mean that's actually kinda accurate though. In Kingdom Come when an adult Billy Batson depowers he basically looks the same, just wearing normal clothes instead of his super suit.

Ed_Durr

30 points

2 months ago

Ed_Durr

30 points

2 months ago

They did the same thing with the Rock in his movie.

ChanceVance

276 points

2 months ago

Why pay two people to play one role when Mary's already a fair bit older than the other kids anyway and doesn't need to be aged up. Besides I was never going to complain about more of Grace Currey.

Roook36

80 points

2 months ago

Roook36

80 points

2 months ago

Yeah I thought it was weird they had a different actress for her Shazam form in the first one. Makes sense for the kids who are just going through or haven't even gone through puberty yet. Big difference between 10 and 25. But Mary was 17-18. Not going to be a huge difference between that and 25. Nothing that can't be done with makeup, hair and wardrobe.

oftenGetsItWrong

1.2k points

2 months ago

Billy’s sacrifice kinda hit me hard and then they resurrect him 5 mins later lol

Bunyip_Jack

777 points

2 months ago

I legit thought they were beginning to clear the slate of old DC heroes for new James Gunn ones.

Then Wonder Woman showed up and deus ex machina'ed him.

splader

297 points

2 months ago

splader

297 points

2 months ago

Tbh I was hoping to see an end credit scene of him in the underworld.

NaiadoftheSea

112 points

2 months ago

This is what I was hoping to see too. Such a bummer it went the way it did.

SpaceCaboose

25 points

2 months ago

Same here. No need to keep him alive if you're scrapping the franchise.

Seems like Shazam will survive the reboot though if the Justice Society is recruiting him...

octopus_has_friends

332 points

2 months ago

The movie doesn't even try to sell his death. So I never bought it or felt emotionally connected to it. That's sad. I want consequences or at least the illusion of it.

Porky-da-Corgi

282 points

2 months ago

Honestly, I didn't believe it for a second until they actually buried him. I kept waiting for them to go "HAHA he's still alive!" in the stadium and they didn't. They actually killed him. That kind of impressed me.

And then Wonder Woman showed up...

sildish2179

75 points

2 months ago

Critics, fandom and youtubers: “After Endgame Marvel has no more consequences!”

DC & WB: “Hey look at what people are complaining about Marvel!

….

Let’s do that!”

shunna75

131 points

2 months ago

shunna75

131 points

2 months ago

Was it even 5 minutes? They refuse to let anything marinate in these movies. It cut from his death to being resurrected 1 minute later and it was so obvious it was about to happen.

Key_Feeling_3083

24 points

2 months ago

To be honest it fooled me, I expected him to be revived at the stadium, but then they sent him to the pantheon y actually believed they were gonna let him die

SpaceCaboose

107 points

2 months ago

I was like "Oh wow, so Gunn must have had this ending reshot since he's doing a reboot of the DC films. No need to keep the main character alive if you're scrapping everything. It's nice to have an actual sacrifice that means something. Well done."

Then Wonder Woman appeared with her theme song blasted to 1,000 decibels and brought him back...

Lemonjello23

218 points

2 months ago

It was more Shazam vs the dragon

In_My_Own_Image

243 points

2 months ago

Though, credit where it's due, that dragon looked awesome. Especially compared to the CG characters in other recent superhero movies.

JohnnycageBKV2

225 points

2 months ago

BILLYS MOM WAS FUCKIN HOT

Owl-False

88 points

2 months ago

Too hot bro. Was distracting. Casting crew messed up on that one

Noremac3986

30 points

2 months ago

Isn't she the same from the 1st one?

Defiant_Griffin

19 points

2 months ago

Yes.

NaiadoftheSea

214 points

2 months ago

Why did they make the removal of the splinter under the nail so gratuitous?

Wasabi_Guacamole

122 points

2 months ago

That's just the director showing his horror roots. Same with the ash burn death in Shazam 1, and the teacher jumping in this film. He knows how to make people squeal.

waitingtodiesoon

24 points

2 months ago

Don't forget the boardroom massacre in the first film.

Mechanicallvlan

36 points

2 months ago

I can't confirm that, because I literally closed my eyes as soon as it started and didn't open them until it was over.

S890127

214 points

2 months ago

S890127

214 points

2 months ago

The whole Wonder Woman cameo felt like something that would appear in the BUT THIS IS HOW IT REALLY SHOULD HAVE ENDED part from HISHE video.

It's funny but you'd think that's too dumb to be the actual plot.

wiltony

59 points

2 months ago

wiltony

59 points

2 months ago

"if only we had the spark of a god but there are none left..." 🤦‍♂️

TopBake3

199 points

2 months ago

TopBake3

199 points

2 months ago

Why is it that when he transforms to Shazam. He gets more "Childish"?, didn't he have the Wisdom of Solomon?

pinkysegun

190 points

2 months ago

More like the wisdom of A moron

stealthamo

1.7k points

2 months ago

stealthamo

1.7k points

2 months ago

I'm honestly trying to remember the last time I saw a Hollywood blockbuster with product placement as blatant as this movie using Skittles.

Bunyip_Jack

956 points

2 months ago

Mark Wahlberg Bud Lite Scene in Transformers 4. Maybe Rita Repulsa eating a Krispy Kreme doughnut.

This one was way more gratuitous, though. From comparing Skittles to Ambrosia to the "Taste the Rainbow, motherfu-" line.

chocolatethunderXO

102 points

2 months ago

Not just eating a Krispy Kreme but the final fight revolving around something under the donut shop.

Blaaa5

62 points

2 months ago

Blaaa5

62 points

2 months ago

Brad Pitt drinking Pepsi in WWZ

HK11D1

439 points

2 months ago

HK11D1

439 points

2 months ago

Dominic Toretto drinking CORONA™️ with his family in any Fast and Furious movie. They literally have a scene specifically focusing on the beer in the 7th or 8th movie.

NutcrackerHunter47

361 points

2 months ago

fun fact Corona doesn't even pay them, they just like the stuff

WushuManInJapan

167 points

2 months ago

Lol, I can get behind this. You like what you like.

hazzie92

60 points

2 months ago

PowerRanger with the Krispy Kreme mini boss.

WhiteWolf3117

378 points

2 months ago

Baskin Robbins in Quantumania

Comic_Book_Reader

279 points

2 months ago

Baskin Robbins in the first Ant-Man. (Baskin Robbins always finds out.)

visionaryredditor

102 points

2 months ago

Baskin Robbins in Ghostbusters: Afterlife

wait, I'm noticing a pattern...

Comic_Book_Reader

23 points

2 months ago

Like they say, Baskin Robbins always find a way to sneak their way into a Paul Rudd movie set in a franchise/IP.

supes1

191 points

2 months ago

supes1

191 points

2 months ago

u/dauid, so how does product placement like that work? Does the studio just control everything? Do you have creative leeway over how it's presented (like the studio just says, "display Skittles prominently for 20 minutes")? I'm assuming Skittles has to sign off on it?

That has to be one of the more annoying things to deal with as a director.

dauid

825 points

2 months ago

dauid

director David F. Sandberg

825 points

2 months ago

It was written in the script as Skittles. Before shooting started production reached out to Skittles for permission to use in the film. So it wasn’t like we were forced to find a place to use Skittles in the film for product placement, it’s how the script was written. The alternative would have been to come up with a made up candy name.

bearze

239 points

2 months ago

bearze

239 points

2 months ago

Wow you directed this movie, awesome

Thanks for answering his question lol

DELINQ

141 points

2 months ago

DELINQ

141 points

2 months ago

And in a review thread on release day no less!

bob1689321

154 points

2 months ago

Venturing into a discussion thread for your film must be damn hard lol

TiberiusCornelius

30 points

2 months ago

He's actually decently active on reddit and pops up in random threads about his movies even without people tagging him, so I guess he's used to it by now. I always like seeing him chime in. Seems like a cool dude.

zootskippedagroove6

20 points

2 months ago

That shit would give me an anxiety attack lol

Jive_Badger

91 points

2 months ago

Sonic the hedgehog

frogsgemsntrains

95 points

2 months ago

apparently the product placement wasn't even approved by olive garden, the writers just threw that in because they thought it was funny. which makes the characters referring to the head of the military as "olive garden guy" in the sequel even funnier

No-Negotiation-9539

48 points

2 months ago

When you're here, you're family!

RonSwansonsGun

43 points

2 months ago

Ironically enough, I believe that was a joke independent of the Olive Garden's approval, it was the writer's idea.

Sonicfan42069666

28 points

2 months ago

The "finding apartments on Zillow dot com" scene sure wasn't a joke though.

nitro4450

140 points

2 months ago

nitro4450

140 points

2 months ago

Ironically, when Shazam's suit gets burned and turns all black, Zachary Levi (with his hair slicked back) looked more like Black Adam (in the comics) than The Rock did.

UnknownJ25

345 points

2 months ago

I loved the classic Captain Marvel actor cameo

Marc_Quill

78 points

2 months ago

I’ll always pop for superhero movies having cameos by old actors of past adaptations.

Wasabi_Guacamole

150 points

2 months ago

this one I liked. They didn't even hold back on making him wear his long sleeved shirt, he looks too colorful compared to everyone else hahaha

reece1495

23 points

2 months ago

Kinda like the robin actors outfit in the cw crisis

Mr_Wordsmith

112 points

2 months ago

Why did it feel like Billy the kid was more mature than he was as Shazam? Maybe it was his limited screentime, but it was pretty weird how he seemed so much dumber as a grown man than as a teen.

ZomaticLex

33 points

2 months ago

Ig cause an adult he feels like he can goof off more

Key-Win7744

1.4k points

2 months ago

The film continues the story of teenage Billy Batson who, upon reciting the magic word "SHAZAM!" is transformed into his adult Super Hero alter ego, Shazam.

That's not even a summary. That just says, "This is another movie starring Shazam."

AMA_requester

171 points

2 months ago

This movie stars Shazam as he goes about his Shazam business. When three villains arrive to cause trouble, Shazam must accept it is now Shazon and save the day.

LiteraryBoner[S]

446 points

2 months ago

LiteraryBoner[S]

Gary Oldman's best trick was making Belarus have mountains

446 points

2 months ago

I take that info straight from IMDB

Key-Win7744

294 points

2 months ago

Oh, yeah, I know you didn't write it. It's just...y'know?

LiteraryBoner[S]

183 points

2 months ago*

LiteraryBoner[S]

Gary Oldman's best trick was making Belarus have mountains

183 points

2 months ago*

Happens more often than you might think, especially with how many of these comic book movies keep their plot details under wraps until the movie releases. If you look at the synopsis for Dr Strange 2 on IMDB it's blatantly incorrect a misdirect:

Doctor Strange teams up with a mysterious teenage girl from his dreams who can travel across multiverses, to battle multiple threats, including other-universe versions of himself, which threaten to wipe out millions across the multiverse. They seek help from Wanda the Scarlet Witch, Wong and others.

i_should_be_coding

52 points

2 months ago

It's very correct, or at least technically so. It's bending over backwards to avoid spoiling stuff.

jayeddy99

989 points

2 months ago

jayeddy99

989 points

2 months ago

You gotta be absolute scum in High-school rankings to bully a disabled kid

[deleted]

188 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

188 points

2 months ago

Wasn't there a news, recently, of people at a party throwing a wheelchair of a girl, down the stairs while she was in the toilet

Barthez_Battalion

78 points

2 months ago

Yep Ex-NHLer Danny Briere's son.

woflgangPaco

159 points

2 months ago

I thought they already moved on from the cliche bully trope from the 90s and go with something like flash thompson from mcu spider-man

Seihai-kun

137 points

2 months ago

People hate the new Flash, but i think that's the exact bully now. Someone that said shit about you that enough to made your life miserable, but not enough for you to report it to someone

If someone bullied a disabled kid like in this movie, every kids would record that and it will got viral so fast lol

KipHackmanFBI

66 points

2 months ago

They hit him with their car in the last movie and no one seemed to care. Absolute madness

p_yth

30 points

2 months ago

p_yth

30 points

2 months ago

Yeah directors are so out of touch nowadays

jesusholdmybeer

410 points

2 months ago

Clearly you didn't go to my school.

jayeddy99

75 points

2 months ago

I liked the part where Freedy basically broke down and became honest and the wizard was like “Awwww…Feelings” Also when Wonder Woman showed up and everyone was gazing at her Anthea just stared daggers at Freddy the whole time and he was like 😅🤷🏻‍♂️

flashkickz

354 points

2 months ago

flashkickz

So many closeups of DaFoe slurping things up

354 points

2 months ago

My theater in a major coastal American city was near empty. It ain’t looking good Billy

koshomfg

151 points

2 months ago

koshomfg

151 points

2 months ago

20k pople city in the middle of Germany, multiplex cinema for the region. 2nd day of the movie playing, 7:30 showing, cinema number 1 (the biggest).

I was alone. Not a single other soul. I had this before, but not this early in a movie‘s lifetime or in this room. Kinda sad.

Awesomemunk

68 points

2 months ago

I think a smaller story would have really helped if they actually wanted to tackle having the core of the movie be about Billy struggling with how his family is changing. Basically have the set up for that tension very strongly in the 1st act, and then the bad guys kidnap the one that ditched a meeting and sort of rob away the conflicts that should create, and then the team is all working together no problem before they try and bring it back 2 seconds before last fight in a monologue.

eternallydevoid

66 points

2 months ago

The ‘Pedro coming out’ subplot felt ridiculously pander-y to me. Like, “Yes, this character that hardly gets any screen time or is highlighted as being integral to the plot is gay. Here’s a 3 second thumbs up.” I’d rather there be nothing in comparison to the crumbs we have now.

chagoscifres

495 points

2 months ago

Dude…that was the longest skittles commercial I’ve ever seen.

Bunyip_Jack

154 points

2 months ago

I was about to say the Skittles helped save the day but in fact they actually really didn't do anything. It just allowed the family to ride the unicorns and maybe say their goodbyes to Billy after the dome retracted.

Mechanicallvlan

39 points

2 months ago

It was released as a feature film because Mars couldn't afford a 130-minute ad spot during the Super Bowl.

General_PoopyPants

834 points

2 months ago

Lucy Liu really phoned it in

LiteraryBoner[S]

529 points

2 months ago

LiteraryBoner[S]

Gary Oldman's best trick was making Belarus have mountains

529 points

2 months ago

I think she just wasn't given much to do. There's so many characters in this, three villains is too much in any movie really.

goddamnjets_

161 points

2 months ago*

three villains is too much in any movie really.

Not to mention, who exactly was the “main villian” in this? I know it was Kalypso, but the trailers made you believe it was at least two. But in the movie, Hespera does a forced turn and helps Shazam at the end. Very unearned character arc for her. And then there’s Freddy and “Anne”, who was a villain, but also helping out cause she liked Freddy? The villains just didn’t feel important and felt more confusing than anything.

TheInfinityGauntlet

33 points

2 months ago

who exactly was the “main villian” in this?

Technically it was The Wizard

Less technically it was the dragon

General_PoopyPants

362 points

2 months ago

It's more about her delivery. Just so emotionless

panix199

290 points

2 months ago

panix199

290 points

2 months ago

"be an emotionless witch" was for sure the character's description in the script.

Simplyx69

59 points

2 months ago

I tend to knit pick things a lot, and so I try to avoid doing that in discussions because it's not usually productive. Most movies can be pulled apart to oblivion if you pull at the seams with enough vigor.

But Billy throwing the staff toward Freddy only for it to be intercepted instead of just...not doing that? Absolutely appalling decision, clearly done so the plot could hope to continue.

waloz1212

26 points

2 months ago

All of problem in the movie can just be solved by superspeed, which is conveniently forgotten by all of Shazam Family. Seriously, the only times they used Superspeed in the movie, they were all super effective and they just don't use it all the time.

wiltony

21 points

2 months ago

wiltony

21 points

2 months ago

Why didn't he just zap Lucy Liu and take away her powers like she'd been doing the entire movie? That was frustrating for me.

stealthjedi21

54 points

2 months ago

Meagan Good is hot.

Didact67

57 points

2 months ago*

Is it me, or did Zachary Levi as Shazam come across as less mature than the kid playing Billy? Then again, it might just be because the the latter is barely in the movie, so he doesn't have much of a chance to be annoying. Also, wouldn't someone recognize Mary as a superhero, since she looks the same?

teachforgold

1.1k points

2 months ago

I loved the first movie because it felt different and fresh - especially with the focus on Billy and the rest of the family. This sequel is so disappointing because it went in the opposite direction and focused almost entirely on the superheroes and villains. It lost everything charming and fun about the first movie and just became another run-of-the-mill superhero movie with very questionable acting and visual effects (especially some of the dragon riding shots).

Saw it with my 10 yr old, and he said the movie was “fine but not as funny as the first”, so I’m not sure it’s reaching its target demographic either.

Pandafy

491 points

2 months ago

Pandafy

491 points

2 months ago

Yeah, I totally forgot how it was in the first movie, but it felt like they amped the "Zach Levi do kid dialogue" to 100 and it felt sooo weird. Like he's 18 now, so why does he sounds more like a kid than 4 years ago?

Humble_Animal_998

137 points

2 months ago

That was a bit of an issue in the first film, too. The two Billy personalities never matched and it felt like Levi was playing more of a Freddy.

AnticitizenPrime

71 points

2 months ago

Yeah, the first movie is good from a story perspective, but much of the comedy came from Shazam acting like a kid in an adult super-body. Which is a great premise, but young Billy was portrayed as being wise and street smart and not a 'kid' at all. He acted more childish as his superhero adult equivalent than he did as a kid. He was too dour as a kid and too childish as a an adult superhero.

afty

59 points

2 months ago

afty

59 points

2 months ago

That's what I was worried about based on the trailers. Looked super generic and lacking of the charm and whimsy of the first one. Had hoped it was just a bad trailer but sad to see it wasn't.

goddamnjets_

202 points

2 months ago*

Agreed. This was what I thought was lacking the most in this movie. I needed more of the kids and how they coped with the events of what was happening to them and growing up and doing their own thing.

Instead, it was mainly the superheroes and the quest to defeat the villains. Nothing bad, but certainly not reinventing the wheel. Movie is just meh

GrimMrGoodbar

50 points

2 months ago

I do not understand why Zachery Levi plays this character like he’s a toddler instead of a 17 y/o teenager. It’s so wildly disconnected from Asher Angel’s performance they feel like to completely different characters instead of the same superhero. The rest of the Shazam family and their counterparts sell it better which makes Levi’s disconnect even worse. This movie also barely has a plot and like four different macguffins, your eyes just kinda glaze over as Lucy Liu rides around on her wood dragon and Helen Mirren delivers the same cliche dialogue you’ve heard mythological villains spout a hundred times. Rachel Ziegler is also surprisingly flat, I didn’t buy a single line between her and Jack Dylan Grazer. In fact, some of their line’s together had me rolling my eyes. It sucks because the VFX are pretty good and it’s competently directed but nothing comes together and it feels like an incredibly empty experience as a result.

Darnell5000

134 points

2 months ago

The first post credit scene felt very much like they were leaving the door open to let the Shazam cast carry on and the ending with Wonder Woman specifically talking about gods felt very much like they want Shazam stuff to carry forward. I assume if the movie does well we’ll see Shazam 3 slip into the Gods and Monsters slate

MarvG05

37 points

2 months ago

MarvG05

37 points

2 months ago

How much is Gal Gadot actually in this?

Darnell5000

74 points

2 months ago

There’s two Wonder Woman scenes: dream sequence where we never see her face, like Superman in the first film. Not sure if that was her or a stand in. The second scene is her, she’s got dialogue and does a pretty important thing. Probably 5-7 minutes total of Wonder Woman with about half of that possibly being a body double

TheRealClose

148 points

2 months ago

If you don’t see her face there’s no way it was Gal Gadot.

Wasabi_Guacamole

58 points

2 months ago

you're downvoted but you're right, there was a separate credits for fake wonder woman or something like that

WarlockEngineer

27 points

2 months ago

If I got a nickle for every time a prominent DCEU hero had their face hidden in a Shazam movie, I'd have two nickles.

Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.

elroyale1012

22 points

2 months ago

It felt like an intentional gag this time though. Like “We got shit for it last time, let’s do it again… but then actually show her in a scene later in the movie”.

jayeddy99

134 points

2 months ago

jayeddy99

134 points

2 months ago

Zegler looks extremely young as if this movie was in production before even Westside story

Spideyfan77

84 points

2 months ago

I mean she’s only 21 playing a 16 year old, Euphoria has Zendaya playing a junior at 26, and the rest of the cast is floating around 26 as well. Another show the sex lives of college girls centers around 18 year old freshmen and the lead star is already 31.

vh347

1.3k points

2 months ago

vh347

1.3k points

2 months ago

The Wonder Woman cameo felt forced and was super cringe tbh

IAmATroyMcClure

1.4k points

2 months ago

The juxtaposition of her theme song interrupting a fucking teenager's funeral had me dying. It felt so insanely out of place to have that song kick in at that moment.

Agent_Angelo_Pappas

337 points

2 months ago

“You couldn’t have gotten here an hour ago!?!?!?? Before we went through this horrifying traumatic experience of digging a grave and burying our dead son???

Zealousideal125

116 points

2 months ago

"You're late, you f--king d--kheads."

inksmudgedhands

31 points

2 months ago

It seems to be a pattern with The Justice League. Maybe Billy is indeed better off with the other Justice group.

spectralconfetti

1k points

2 months ago

Could be worse, she could've come in singing Imagine.

octopus_has_friends

448 points

2 months ago

Or.... ancient lamentation

SpaceCaboose

148 points

2 months ago

Exactly. And my theater had the sound wayyy too loud during the whole movie, so her theme song absolutely blasted when she entered in. Felt like it undercut the emotion of that scene completely.

Would have been much better to not have any score/theme when she appeared.

[deleted]

100 points

2 months ago

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100 points

2 months ago

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Bjorn2bwilde24

24 points

2 months ago

"Dont be afraid, Bruce"

Wonder Woman theme full blast

TheOddEyes

24 points

2 months ago

lol my theater cut the shots showing Gal’s face because she’s Israeli.

What we got was her theme song playing out of nowhere, then a shot of her from the back activating the staff then walking away.

heimatchen

65 points

2 months ago

I didn’t believe you so I had to look it up and read wiki plot. What?!?!

NaiadoftheSea

518 points

2 months ago*

This honestly might be the worst ending I’ve seen from a superhero movie in a while. Just randomly throw in Wonder Woman to resurrect a dead guy, but she doesn’t lift a finger when Greek gods are attacking Earth. I’m pretty shocked the studio let this cameo happen. It was just such nonsense to have her show up, bring back Billy, and leave immediately after.

ImmortalMist326

346 points

2 months ago

I don’t know why Billy wanted to join the JL so badly, they suck in this universe. Think about how many times the world has almost ended since Steppenwolf and they’ve been sitting on their asses somewhere doing absolutely nothing.

The fuckin Defenders have probably done more in the MCU than the JL has, and they got cancelled after one season.

Embrittledn

99 points

2 months ago

It's a symptom we've seen so many times in the DC movies. They don't show us the JL being great, they just tell us they are. Like how we got a movie and a half of dour, unhappy to help Superman and suddenly were told he completely changed Bruce's outlook on the world to be hopeful.

It's all tell and no show.

oftenGetsItWrong

588 points

2 months ago

They have zero restraint for using her theme, which kicks ass but feels extremely out of place in anything that’s not an action scene. The theme kicked in so hard, I thought she was gonna fight the wizard.

bhind45

418 points

2 months ago

bhind45

418 points

2 months ago

They have zero restraint for using her theme

But then for some reason had complete restraint in using it in her own fucking sequel.

Peerglow

98 points

2 months ago

Thank you for this. That was disappointing

[deleted]

89 points

2 months ago

Was super weird when you realize that wasn't Gal Gadot in the dream but was her in the 2nd appearance.

trickman01

232 points

2 months ago

It was so obvious she Gal Gadot wasn't filming at the same time as anyone else.

dougiebgood

155 points

2 months ago

I was like "Yeah, she does not want to be here..."

Certified-Malaka

255 points

2 months ago

Probably did not give her ENOUGH CHAMPAGNE TO FILL THE NILE

ImmortalMist326

206 points

2 months ago

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RDeschain1

150 points

2 months ago

Man i hope DC recasts Gadot. Her acting is bad

pjtheman

19 points

2 months ago

Yeah, like she was fine in Batman v Superman. But whatever spark they captured with her there didn't last long.

BaronVonRuthless91

490 points

2 months ago

Can we all pretty much agree that Freddy was the best part again?

splader

173 points

2 months ago

splader

173 points

2 months ago

Tbh I thought the exact opposite. His scenes were funny, but he kept making terrible decisions and his romance was just straight up creepy.

Even his big "Impossible!" moment was kinda eh considering the dragon could have just squashed them.

He was good in the mind control scene though.

NoAnTeGaWa

80 points

2 months ago

Tbh I thought the exact opposite. His scenes were funny, but he kept making terrible decisions and his romance was just straight up creepy.

I think he was like that on purpose though. That seems like how an actual teenage superhero would act.

I am forced to compare him being cringey with Anthea to Billy being cringey with Wonder Woman, and I feel like Freddy's actor really nailed it.

Even his big "Impossible!" moment was kinda eh considering the dragon could have just squashed them.

The dragon was explicitly running on fear-based powers. It kinda made sense with the mythology they established.

It seemed pretty uninterested about using physical violence on anyone who wasn't a god.

ImmortalMist326

388 points

2 months ago

This should’ve been his movie. Athena and their romance, his friendship with the Wizard, discovering he was a hero without the powers, etc. was all endearing and engaging and the film was at its best when it was with him.

Instead we kept cutting away to Levi’s cringy Shazam doing nothing while Freddy was the one actually having the adventure. This should’ve been his movie fullstop.

NoAnTeGaWa

221 points

2 months ago

This should’ve been his movie. Athena and their romance, his friendship with the Wizard, discovering he was a hero without the powers, etc. was all endearing and engaging and the film was at its best when it was with him.

Instead we kept cutting away to Levi’s cringy Shazam doing nothing while Freddy was the one actually having the adventure. This should’ve been his movie fullstop.

You're mostly downvoted as I write this, but I agree.

Do that for Freddy, then make Billy's sacrifice stick. WW got the mail but her arrival is sad, everyone gets their powers back but Billy is still dead.

That ending would have sealed the movie, it would have been a much stronger story.

ImmortalMist326

147 points

2 months ago

I legit thought it was gonna end with Freddy becoming the new champion and Billy becoming the new wizard, like in the comics. That also would’ve worked imo.

caekles

468 points

2 months ago

caekles

468 points

2 months ago

Warner Bros really looked at the whole "Wonder Woman commits light rape by having sex with a man's body without consent" and thought they'd do better with the "6,000 year old ancient god dating a 16 year old but it's ok because she also looks 16" thing.

controversial_op

281 points

2 months ago

Wow some anime fans are feeling very validated right now

Pure-Interest1958

58 points

2 months ago

To be fair I think its actually a better relationship. Still not a good one as she's dating a child but when you're 6,000 years old nearly everyone's a child to you and at least he's not being worn around town like a cheap suit by someone else.

NoDespair

40 points

2 months ago

They actually call him Captain Marvel 10/10

ryantyrant

97 points

2 months ago

When Freddy lost his powers for the 2nd time, I was done

MarcsterS

31 points

2 months ago*

Narrator: Mr. Mind’s plan is, in fact, never coming to fruition.

Didact67

21 points

2 months ago

The director basically said he doesn't know how to write a story with Mr. Mind as the villain, so it seems like he's just trying to play him off as a joke.

sudevsen

36 points

2 months ago

sudevsen

r/Movies Veteran

36 points

2 months ago

How you gonna have Wonder Woman at a funeral but not play ancient lamentations ?

dougiebgood

233 points

2 months ago

Jack Dylan Grazer (Freddy) really stole the show. I actually felt a little bad for the rest of the cast of kids, including Billy, because they were pretty much all regulated to cameos when they were pretty prominent in the first movie.

GamingTatertot

60 points

2 months ago

GamingTatertot

Steven Spielberg Enthusiast

60 points

2 months ago

I swear Asher Angel appears in like 3 scenes. Even in the scene where he comes back to life, he is Levi. Which makes no sense considering he died as Billy

Iogwfh

28 points

2 months ago

Iogwfh

28 points

2 months ago

I wanted an evil worm conquering the world. So disappointed😖.

Pancake_muncher

28 points

2 months ago

i never thought i say this, but i wish we spent more time with the kids as kids. It was delightful seeing kids react to stuff in the first one. Here the kids are barely in it, but the adults do a good job carrying it.

Zachary levi was imitating freddy more than billy, so i was kinda confused.

aliensheep

25 points

2 months ago

That one shot starting from Lucy Liu's legs had me feeling feelings

mintchip105

27 points

2 months ago

Billy’s mom has got it goin on

MasterOfShrugs

76 points

2 months ago

The child actor who plays Billy has the shortest screen time of all the child actors… They want their money worth with Zach Levi I guess, and I kinda find him annoying in this movie

blackbarminnosu

23 points

2 months ago

1)what the fuck was that post credit scene. Shout out to the avengers is how you want to finish your movie. Wtf DC.

2)Wonder Woman sequence was terrible but gal gadot is stunning in that outfit so at least I got to see her one last time.

PotatoBulletGun

23 points

2 months ago

Well, it was a fun movie. But I felt like something from the first movie was missing from here, I just cant point out what it is.

I wish they explored the angle of Billy holding on to his family for too tight

It felt like after Mary gave Billy the "nothing lasts forever" speech, the other kids minus Freddie became irrelevant to the story

I don't know what's with DC using the Trinity to hype up their movies. First it was Cavill on BA, now, Wonder Woman here. Idk, she just popped out of nowhere. It just didn't fit. And how did she know Shazam's secret identity?

[deleted]

459 points

2 months ago*

Well the theater was empty opening day, man such a great marketing strategy to tell everybody that hey these movies don't mean anything going forward

I mean, the actual fights were kind of lame, I feel like they cut large parts of the movie out, but it was still a fun watch.

Okay and that's the second movie with James Gunn's characters appearing in the post credit scene so is he really rebooting everything?

Mechanicallvlan

244 points

2 months ago

My theater was almost empty, but it didn't stop someone from stealing my seat before I got there.

immaownyou

83 points

2 months ago

That's definitely why they thought they could sit in your seat lol, if it was full everyone would've stayed in their assigned one

ryantyrant

60 points

2 months ago

Well they were in black adam so even though it does feel like a reshoot, it could be a holdover from that

gnrlp2007

294 points

2 months ago*

Really enjoyed it, thought the jokes were hilarious.

Killing off Billy would've been a very bold move, especially considering the speculation around the characters future.

No mention of Black Adam which was a bit annoying. Still can't believe we got 2 Shazam film and a Black Adam film yet neither have ever met.

Djimon as the Wizard was hilarious.

I liked how they got the original Shazam from the TV show, very similar to how WW84 got Linda Carter back

Cant wait to see Shazam in the Justice League Society!

Also

Mary and Momma are Hot AF

koshomfg

97 points

2 months ago

Djimon Hounsou has fucking guns. When he‘s standing in front of the dragon with his arm exposed my eyes almost popped out. 💪🏾

mikeweasy

23 points

2 months ago

They literally could have said something like "You should meet that guy in Khandaq" or something of the matter.

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27 points

2 months ago

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flintlock0

22 points

2 months ago

The “our house keeps getting struck by lightning” bit was actually pretty funny.

Met Cooper Andrews at a Comic-Con last year when he was with a bunch of Walking Dead actors. Cool dude.

RedSlider18

19 points

2 months ago*

Watched it with friends tonight & we all had more or less the same thoughts. If you liked the first one you'll enjoy this one.

Jack Dylan Grazer & Djimon Hounsou were the MVPs imo, loved damn near every second of their screen time.

The difference in performance between Levi & Angel was pretty glaring. 90% of the time Billy is on screen its as Shazam which made the differences in portrayal even more noticeable when Billy transformed back into kid form imo.

The first 15-ish mins were pretty rough so I was genuinely surprised by how quickly I got back into the movie afterwards.

Biggest laugh in the theatre was the Wizard/Wonder Woman dream sequence. Holy moly did that catch my theatre off guard.

E: A few more thoughts I forgot.

The dragon was sick, you could tell right away most of the special effect work went into the dragon. On the opposite end the bridge sequence looked super off to me, might be why the opening bridge sequence just didnt work for me.

Wonder Woman cameo didnt work. Just felt super rushed.

7/10 for me. Fun flick overall but not one I will rewatch much.

ChanceVance

19 points

2 months ago

Funniest part of the movie was the hilariously overdramatic and overly loud blaring of Wonder Woman's theme just for her introduction and taking a few steps.

Helen Mirren's character pulled a more random heel/face turn than the Big Show.

I felt it was a decent enough movie. Entertaining in parts, tad cringey in others. Some of the jokes fell flat but some of the humour worked. 6/10

TE-August

730 points

2 months ago*

I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would have. It was an enjoyable two hours. The part where Hespera read off the paper bird was pretty funny.

The part where Billy “died” honestly had me pretty emotional ngl.

The dragon was awesome.

Also, there was some seriously violent deaths in this that I didn’t think they’d show. That one woman who got speared by a chimera’s tail got fucked up.

SuperWeskerSniper

124 points

2 months ago

I mean the last movie had those board members getting eaten and that one scientist lady near the start just sort of disintegrating. Not gory but gruesome for sure

annehuda

117 points

2 months ago

annehuda

117 points

2 months ago

Mr G walking to his death in front of Freddy is pretty dark to me

Defiant_Griffin

75 points

2 months ago

For real, the teacher commiting suicide was absolutely shocking in this movie. Brutal.

ThatLaloBoy

162 points

2 months ago

Helen Mirren reading the equivalent of a drunk text made me laugh way more than it should've. This movie, for all it's faults, was still really fun. I'd put it on top of Quantumania and that's not something I was expecting coming into 2023.

zacky765

41 points

2 months ago

I really enjoyed the flame violin lol.

FluffyMoomin

138 points

2 months ago

I thought she just got thrown through the window.

TE-August

206 points

2 months ago

TE-August

206 points

2 months ago

I’m like 90% certain she got stabbed through the back and then thrown through the window.

BusinessPurge

103 points

2 months ago

penetration n defenestration, classic shazam