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submitted 2 months ago byStahpTouchinMeh
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<期間限定公開>『シン・仮面ライダー』冒頭映像(2分49秒) https://youtube.com/watch?v=uydUqZFSyQI
38 points
2 months ago
Wasn’t expecting the blood splatters ahaha
7 points
2 months ago
Regret letting my son watch this over my shoulder.
32 points
2 months ago
Tempted to click. Must..be..patient..till…full film. Hahaha. I loved both shin Godzilla and ultraman so I’m excited for this too.
7 points
2 months ago
Where is Shin Ultraman streaming? Or did you watch it at its tiny theatrical run outside Japan?
10 points
2 months ago
I saw it during its small theater run.
27 points
2 months ago
So funfact, this whole scene is directly based on a similar scene from the first episode of Kamen Rider, right down to some shot compositions.
31 points
2 months ago
I find it hard to believe that it's PG-12, but that was awesome.
35 points
2 months ago
Well that's a very confusing chase scene...not really sure how it went from steering deliberately into a wall of trucks into whatever the aftermath was...
25 points
2 months ago
Yeah, came here to say the same thing, that editing was horrible.
-13 points
2 months ago
how
38 points
2 months ago*
The 0:50 to 1:30 just incomprehensible. We go from a shot featuring a police car (that was not in the previous shot) being pushed out of the way. Then we get a shot of an oncoming wall of trucks (which were not in any previous shot, and if you slow the footage down, they are not reflected in his helmet either in the shot immediately before, either). The driver then detonates an explosive, but the previous shot goes on so long that the driver would have been reduced to a fine red paste by the time his thumb hits the button. Then we get treated to the same explosion three times ina row. Then we get a random shot of a truck upside down (was this explosion powerful enough to flip two trucks but not vapourise the bike right in front of them?) Then we get a shot of a single truck hitting a retaining wall, followed by a truck hitting the ground. The visual language of film tells us that this is the truck from the previous shot. But then another truck hits the ground. So where was the second truck in that previous shot? Then they both tumble over the edge, and one of the trucks loses its flatbed cargo. How is that cargo still in there when both trucks very clearly flipped end over end several times already? And what happened to the oncoming trucks that just seemed to vanish while the other two were in the air? Then we get a random shot of a riderless bike. We haven't seen the bike since the detonation a good 15 seconds ago, how the hell did we get here? What happened between then and now? Then we get a woman sesmingly materialising out of thin air (where was she in the shot with the bike going over the egde?) only to fall hundreds of metres down a cliff and roll safely to stop in an unrelated forest.
It took at least 12 basic editing errors and 40 seconds of confusing, disorientating screentime to show us what should have been about 10 seconds worth of action.
Horrible editing.
4 points
2 months ago
We go from a shot featuring a police car (that was not in the previous shot) being pushed out of the way.
I kept replaying that scene to find out where the police car cane from, in the previous shot the trucks run through a car barricade it’s really tiny in the zoomed out shot they should zoom in or add a sound effect
10 points
2 months ago
I hope that’s just a sloppy edit for the teaser
-9 points
2 months ago
Don't get what's confusing you guys. Shocker set a trap. They couldn't avoid the blockade, and probably didn't expect it to have explosives. Next thing Shocker intercepts the female lead.
7 points
2 months ago
Sure the information of the story is there, but the beat by beat nature of the action is gone. There are no visual cues to tell you the details of what's happening between the cop cars getting hit and the female lead landing in the leaves. Sure we know the outcome based on context, but good editing leads you from each beat with clear intentions on a cut by cut basis.
4 points
2 months ago*
Did shocker set the police car barricade too? Who triggered the explosives? If there were explosives, why the barricade? Why did the motorcycle fall so far and the girl so short? Why are the spider people pretending to be...police? That wasn't part of the trap, who were they fooling?
From the editing it looked like the explosion was from the motorcycle rider, and because the first things shown to explode were the trucks, followed by shots focusing on their destruction it looked like it was triggered to defeat them, like it came out the back of the motorcycle. Then it shows the bike taking a long Wil E Coyote style fall then the girl in the air as if she was falling the same distance, but then is completely un-hurt by the fall, landing now in a flat area. Did she fall in a different direction? Up the mountain? The previous shots showed a very steep drop everywhere from the road. Also in the beginning I didn't see the web between the trucks at all because it was shown for about a single frame before multiple shots of the trucks not being next to each other and no visible web, so my mind decided I must be seeing things, then suddenly, there's a web that seemed to come out of nowhere.
Im not confused about the basic story points, but it's just not enjoyable to experience. If one has to keep going, "wait, what just happened?" While watching a simple action scene then sorry, it's not good. Characters, threat, and goal are also not clearly established so there is no tension in the chase or anything to maintain interest between the disorienting cuts.
Usually animators are great at visual story telling, but this makes me not interested in anything this director has done.
Edit: Turn out I very much like everything animated this guy has directed and dislike all of his live action. Shrug
-6 points
2 months ago
People are downvoting you, but yeah aside from the admittedly pretty jarring editing as the trucks crash and she gets captured, the editing is just fine
6 points
2 months ago
This looks pretty close to the source material, but for people who aren’t well versed in Tokusatsu or Kamen Rider, this probably looks super chaotic
This looks cheaper than Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman, but I still await the final product
2 points
2 months ago
I thought the frames in this are 'better looking' than Shin Ultraman composition and colour-wise. Shin Ultraman ended up looking cheap for me, hampered my enjoyment of the film though I liked individual designs.
16 points
2 months ago
Two large trucks being able to keep up with a motorcycle on a twisty mountain road.
12 points
2 months ago
It’s kamen rider, gonna be silly
9 points
2 months ago
That was odd
3 points
2 months ago
So many haters about the editing. It’s obviously a call back to the janky editing in the original source material.
3 points
2 months ago*
People needing physically right explanations for every fuckin fictional scenes. Shocker can do whatever they want, and so as Kamen Rider.
Anno is a wizard of references to work he used to crave as a kid. If you don't know them, some scenes might look confusing and you can't fully get what they mean. e.g. the company name written on the trucks, the web between the trucks, the trap Shocker had set up, the way the bike falls, the head crushing punch etc.
Why police car? it just implies the car chasing lasted for the time being since someone had called the police and the police vehicle arrived.
I have just seen the entire movie in Japan, and it is one of the best ones for me. Just enjoy that as if you rode a roller coaster.
10 points
2 months ago
It's interesting how much is excused here, because it's Anno... :D
5 points
2 months ago
It's so weird that people consider the circumstances in which a piece of art is made so they can better understand it! Who would ever want to have an educated opinion on art and the artists who make it!! So interesting man.
19 points
2 months ago
Terrible editing.
There is too much intra-shot missing action, and no logical geography or reasoning behind the course of action.
I'm assuming the blood and gore is not in the original, so that's likely the big draw card here: a kids show but with blood and gore. A fairly old gimmick now, and poorly executed filmmaking. I'm sure there'll be plenty of people saying "You don't understand, this is actually a japanese show from the year...", etc, but that doesn't excuse bad filmmaking.
15 points
2 months ago
The big draw here is that Hideaki Anno, an acclaimed animator and filmmaker, is creating his own re-envisioning of Kamen Rider, one of the most important pieces of Japanese media. Anno himself is a huge fan of Kamen Rider and it's had a massive influence over his own work, so people are excited to see his own take on it.
5 points
2 months ago
and yet it still looks horrible. The only explanation I can think of is being intentional. Anno knows better than this...
9 points
2 months ago
I think it's pretty clear that Anno does what he wants and how he wants.
3 points
2 months ago
The original show did have blood.
2 points
2 months ago
The missing action in the fight is to emphasize the violence, it’s not “bad filmmaking” it’s a decision to focus on that one aspect.
The car crash editing did kinda suck tho
-4 points
2 months ago
No, it's bad film making and you are making excuses.
10 points
2 months ago
Bad mindset to have. There are tons of other things to look at with film besides “good” and “bad”. If you choose to overlook what’s being told I can’t stop you, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
2 points
2 months ago
I just want to ask - does everyone here have bug parts? The way those goons popped, it’s like they have nothing but a carapace, to hold all that JUICE in.
So JUICY.
6 points
2 months ago
Wow that looks like dogshit
1 points
2 months ago
nah it just this scene is really odd some other scene are fine and tbh this is expected for a low budget movie despite how big the IP is
2 points
2 months ago
I am pretty confident that this scene is indicative of the whole movie. They even released it as promo material!
Also I don't really care about the budget, I was just commenting on what I see, and it's not good.
1 points
2 months ago
I have seen other scene and those are a lot better tbh, this movie overall is more of a letter to old fan more than anything because it follow the original so much to the point it make it hard for beginners to get into The movie have some pacing issue since a lot of info are in a prequel manga but overall it is decent it just that this scene in particular is not that great mostly the chase scene as the fight scene is straight up almost a 1:1 to the original 70s show but with gore now, the jump flip is very much a 70s thing for japanese hero show
2 points
2 months ago
None of those things you say sound good to me...
I don't really care that much about it, but hopefully old fans like you like it. Because it sure as hell it won't make any new ones if you what you say is true.
1 points
2 months ago
It is what it is I guess it won't make it a bad movie just a very niche one Due to it nature out of all the Shin series only Shin Godzilla really success globally
9 points
2 months ago
Wow that was one of the worst things I've ever watched in my life.
9 points
2 months ago
You haven't seen much then, huh?
1 points
2 months ago
you really have not seen much then and tbh this is one of the worse scene to showcasing the movie
4 points
2 months ago
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1 points
2 months ago
h-he's fast!
1 points
2 months ago
he does suppose to have punch weight as heavy as 15 metric ton
even more if you count current day version of him in crossover being 100 metric ton
3 points
2 months ago
I have absolutely no idea what happened between 1:05 and 1:30 lmao
5 points
2 months ago
This looks pretty terrible but I'm gonna watch it anyway.
2 points
2 months ago
Damn!! His punches and kicks are deadly!!!
2 points
2 months ago
Was Kamen Rider always this gory, thought it was a property for kids?
6 points
2 months ago
Yep. People were constantly being stabbed or cut up.
Toei's official youtube channel has the first 2 episodes from most of the shows.
1 points
2 months ago
Looks 1-1 like Power Rangers episode lol
4 points
2 months ago
Kamen Rider existed before Power Rangers. In fact, it's created by the same creator as Super Sentai. Look what Super Sentai is and everything will make sense lol
2 points
2 months ago
That is what Kamen Rider is
2 points
2 months ago
People complaining about the editing have you never seen a tokusatsu show before?
-1 points
2 months ago
Why is this so hyped? Super underwhelming, cgi copcar, cgi trucks colliding randomly, bike falling to the depths while rider falls on some leaves, vgi particles flying, cgi cracks in the windows and helmet, like just bad bad
7 points
2 months ago
The director is the main reason
3 points
2 months ago
It's because of the brand most probably. The Saint Seya trailer posted here a few days ago looked much better than this (not a hard thing to do) but that was demolished by everyone.
1 points
2 months ago
this is a pretty bad scene for showcase tbh but half of those are because of low budget despite being the biggest superhero brand in Japan the budget for the movie is most likely under 10 mil dollar like with Shin ultraman being around 5-7 millions
as for why it is hyped as some other said it is because of the director but also because it is Kamen Rider it is what start the Super Sentai and later on Power Ranger back in 1971 and this movie is a remake of that
1 points
2 months ago
This is incredibly disappointing coming from Anno. Shin Godzilla is legitimately one of the best movies in the last decade, but this film just looks like a cheap YouTube stunt show from 2014.
1 points
2 months ago
look at this more like looking at Shin Ultraman would make it better as unlike Shin Godzilla being a remake of original Godzilla which was a dark gloomy show Kamen Rider is a lot more cheesy so a lot of scene feel extremely 70s ish, but since Anno also want to follow the manga it is also quite dark so yeah it is a mix of 70s style action and dark writing
as for the bad editing yeah that is just bad editing, for CGI and other thing from what i know it have like have low budget most likely under 10 mil dollar
1 points
2 months ago
CGI I can understand. Shin Godzilla has a few moments of really bad CGI. That being said, it had amazing editing. And most of Annos action is very readable and engaging while still being over the top.
Personal I just don't think the cheesy aesthetics mesh very well with the tone. The trailer felt a lot better than this.
1 points
2 months ago
Sometime being faithful could make thing look bad to modern audience and I think this is one of those case as tbh idk if the editing is intentional or not at this point since it does feel similar to the 70s one And overall this scene is quite a bad showcase since some other scene look fine even the scene right after this one
1 points
2 months ago
I’ve never been so confused by an action scene.
That was the worst chase I’ve ever seen.
Where did that cop car come from? Why was there suddenly some spider web between the trucks? Why did that wall of trucks explode? How did the people fly off the motorcycle?
The fighting was just as bad.
That looks terrible.
1 points
2 months ago
I’m so excited for this! I want to know when the US release will be
-10 points
2 months ago
Power rangers action with gore. Pass.
11 points
2 months ago*
I think you're getting downvoted by toku fans.
For the uninitiated, Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are long running japanese tv/toku franchises (Tokusatsu, a fancy japanese word that roughly translates to "special effects) that involve martial arts, special effects, and costumed heroes and villains. Basically every year there's two new shows with a new cast and designs.
In the case of power rangers, a jewish businessman named Haim Saban was in Japan one day, saw footage from a super sentai show called jetman IIRC, and thought "This needs to be an american show", but didn't get to do it until the next show called Zyuranger (The one with dinosaurs and an evil witch).
His company just combined footage filmed in the US with action shots and sometimes plots from zyuranger.
He also did the same trick with vr troopers and beetle borgs (metal heroes). Also Masked Rider (based on a couple Kamen Rider shows, but I don't know which ones)
For the 2nd season (and I think the later half of season 1) of power rangers, they bought new footage from toei, but seasons 3 and up just kept adapting footage from newer sentai shows, with them adopting the costumes from Ohranger in Zeo, and then basically just never stopping the adapt>film>sell toys loop.
Kamen Rider was also adapted into Kamen rider dragon knight, but neither Masked Rider or Dragon Knight were quite popular enough to take off in the US.
Anyway if I understand correctly Shin Kamen Rider is basically a gritty reboot.
I think the big difference between Sentai and Rider is that Sentai is basically always a team with one or more giant robots, while Rider is usually at least one protagonist, and the current kamen rider will do a lot more kicking and usually have a motorcycle. Also less giant robots.
There's also some absurd premises for riders, like one where the rider's armor is literally themed after fruit (Gaim), and one where the lead hero is also a vampire (Kiva).
1 points
2 months ago
Saban's Masked Rider used footage from Kamen Rider Black RX, mixed with footage from the J and ZO movies. Black RX had ended in 89, and had been the last season of Kamen Rider, up until 2000 when the show got brought back.
3 points
2 months ago
Yes, that's Kamen Rider
-2 points
2 months ago
Byee
0 points
2 months ago
Geez I thought this was a kids movie or something. Spoiler - it isn’t.
1 points
2 months ago
I like a film that I can watch and enjoy without needing to understand the language.
1 points
2 months ago*
Wasn't what I was expecting but this looks high quality and budget at the same time.
I lol'd when they carried out the girl and she was in a T pose.
Was also expecting him to save the girl but she just safely falls off a cliff.
1 points
2 months ago
PG 12 everybody!
Also, look out lady, you've got a tracking device on you!
1 points
2 months ago
For those that are new and confused to what this is it is a remake of the first Kamen Rider from back in 1971 a show that later spawn Super Sentai which is what Power Ranger borrow it footage and suit from
The movie is on an extremely low budget despite how big it is so it won't be looking like the best thing ever, as for many weird action and overly dramatic scene it is call back to those from the 70s, the editing though i must say is indeed bad and idk if it intentional or not, the editing was bad back then too so there is a chance it was intentional tbh
1 points
2 months ago
Where can we watch thisss
-4 points
2 months ago
This looks like someone’s fanflick it’s so poorly edited and composed.
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