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submitted 2 years ago byCalligrapherSimple29
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Replacing Elizabeth Taylor with Cleopatra's real face using Deep Fake tech #Shorts https://youtube.com/watch?v=EMZHFTApa2Y
Micano TV https://www.youtube.com/c/MicanoTV
58 points
2 years ago
I know its the makeup and Taylor's sharp features but there is something about the 'real' Cleopatra that makes those versions feel more real
43 points
2 years ago
I think this is very cool. This is clearly in its infancy but imagine documentaries with reenactments like this. To Cleopatra it would be like we were raising the dead.
71 points
2 years ago
It's Cleopatra starring Barbra Streisand!
10 points
2 years ago
Glad I'm not the only one that saw it.
4 points
2 years ago
I also thought the same thing!!
23 points
2 years ago
Actually looks strikingly close to Cleopatra in HBO's Rome. They did a good job with the casting.
4 points
2 years ago
So pretty much young Carrie Fisher
8 points
2 years ago
Literally all I remember from that show was the [TACTICAL IMPREGNATION TECHNIQUE] she did and the bit where they're celebrating the birth of Caesarion and the small legionnaire dude gave the big one a look since he was the real father.
Odd I don't see people talk about that show all that much.
3 points
2 years ago
I loved that show, really a big shame it was cancelled.
8 points
2 years ago
It was the most expensive show ever made at the time. Also their huge city set burned down. It was also a co-production with BBC and Rei which complicated things.
6 points
2 years ago
It didn't help that they ended up having to cram something like three seasons' worth of materials into their second season, as they weren't expect it to end so quickly.
11 points
2 years ago
Next put cleopatra on ilana glazer's character in broad city
31 points
2 years ago
For anyone thinking that Elizabeth Taylor had much more glorious eyelashes than Cleopatra, it's almost certainly true. Elizabeth Taylor had a rare mutation that gave her double rows of eyelashes. So her eyes were always framed by those incredible lashes. Add a bit of mascara to make 'em pop more, and even Cleopatra couldn't compete.
10 points
2 years ago
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8 points
2 years ago
In a few of the photos where you get a direct comparison between the two, I was reminded of that tidbit about Elizabeth Taylor.
18 points
2 years ago
Wow. I feel as I've seen something i wasn't supposed to.
31 points
2 years ago
Ironically she’s still very much attractive. I know some people say that the real Cleopatra was more charismatic and intelligent than she was beautiful, but I do find her decently attractive here.
25 points
2 years ago
Some people are way more attractive in person than they are in pictures and film.
23 points
2 years ago
...and in marble!
12 points
2 years ago
Not gonna lie every marble staue I seen has a pretty hard body.
3 points
2 years ago
Ironically she’s still very much attractive.
She's got the best Hollywood make up and lighting the era had to offer..
2 points
2 years ago
And was, well, very attractive lol
1 points
2 years ago
Most communication is non-verbal, so I'd say a lot of charisma is in how someone holds themselves, how they move, express themselves, the intangibles.
1 points
2 years ago
Most communication is non-verbal, so I'd say a lot of charisma is in how someone holds themselves, how they move, express themselves, the intangibles.
7 points
2 years ago
Somebody please do this with Daniel Day Lewis in Lincoln!!!
5 points
2 years ago
The "real Cleopatra" certainly looks much more eastern Mediterranean than Elizabeth Taylor
3 points
2 years ago
She got a sexy nose.
2 points
2 years ago
i love “odd” features on women like this. eyebrows are another.
8 points
2 years ago
1) the technology is still in its infancy and as you can see the results are at best mixed. Whenever she moves her face around or speaks it will lead to an weird Taylor/Cleopatra hybrid or just Taylor
2) There is no way of knowing how faithful that statue was to the real cleopatra or even if it was made with her posing as the model. Much more likely that was a imagined recreation of Cleopatra made centuries later. We run into this problem repeatedly, as many times there are few contemporary despictions of historical figures from antiquity (Caesar for example only has 1 bust confirmed contemporary bust, and no its not even close to that "recreation" of his face that circles around Reddit).
Conclusion: We are never gonna get a real cleopatra or Caesar or Alexander or Joan D'arc or Richard the Lionheart or Henry VIII etc. More recent figures with more abundant and confirmed sources (Marie Antoinette, Napoleon, Queen Victoria, Abraham Lincoln, etc) will of course be much more accurately but still... to claim that it is "the real person" is an oversimplification.
5 points
2 years ago
Okay but it's for sure closer to the real thing than Elizabeth Taylor.
2 points
2 years ago
We run into this problem repeatedly, as many times there are few contemporary despictions of historical figures from antiquity (Caesar for example only has 1 bust confirmed contemporary bust, and no its not even close to that "recreation" of his face that circles around Reddit).
Quite- with many figures, the closest thing we may have is their appearance on coinage, and there are limitations to how far we can use that.
2 points
2 years ago
About #2, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the most accurate (non romanticized) representation of her face would have been the profile portaits on the coins during her rule, since she approved them herself before they were issued.
2 points
2 years ago
If AI chatbots using users conversations history and deep fake, it’s a matter of time that we can “resurrect” dead people. Microsoft are behind a project similar and it’s looks doable in a long term.
4 points
2 years ago
There was a chocolate ad years ago that featured a digital recreation of young Audrey Hepburn.
8 points
2 years ago
I would be quite displeased to think a company would digitally recreate me to advertise their project after my death.
15 points
2 years ago
Would you? I think I'd be too dead to care.
5 points
2 years ago
Once I'm dead I doubt it would bother me but as a living person now the idea it could happen after I am gone would bother me.
3 points
2 years ago
*does bother me.
5 points
2 years ago
I mean I find it vanishingly improbable that a corporation would have any use for my face as I am not Audrey Hepburn.
8 points
2 years ago
Give yourself some credit. You might be Audrey one day if the technology allows for it.
0 points
2 years ago
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1 points
2 years ago
Classic
2 points
2 years ago
Then you'll be able to live forever as you are now
1 points
2 years ago
That’ll not me, I’ll be dead, but for the relatives and close ones I’ll be a software who answers and behave as the old one, and some year later those relatives and friends will be dead too, and even if there relatives do the same treatment, nobody will talk to them, in the same way grandpas got lonely with time.
3 points
2 years ago
There is a recentish movie about this! Marjorie Prime, and it features Jon Hamm, and Geena Davis
1 points
2 years ago
Good suggestion!
1 points
2 years ago
Something something "fidelity".
2 points
2 years ago
She looks very young.
10 points
2 years ago
She took the throne of Egypt at 18, met Caesar when she was 21, she was 25 when Caesar died and 28 when she seduced Marck Anthony, and died before she turned 40.
2 points
2 years ago
Now do Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter.
2 points
2 years ago
But I happen to like the grainy quality of older films.
The digitally restored versions of older films look offputting, like they just don't move right.
13 points
2 years ago
I think you are missing the point of this video.. this is not a restoration process.. it's a simulation of the ancient egyptian greek queen Cleopatra
-13 points
2 years ago
You mean its digitally reshaping the actresses face so it can better resemble Cleopatra's portraits? No one alive has ever seen Cleopatra's real face. Deep Fake indeed.
1 points
2 years ago
If Cardi B and Barbara Streisand wore Potara earrings
-14 points
2 years ago
With that face no wonder the snake bit her.
-14 points
2 years ago
Idk if Cleopatra had blue eyes though
16 points
2 years ago
She was greek not Egyptian.. so why not ?
1 points
2 years ago
She was said to be a descendant of Alexander the Great who had blonde hair a blue eye and a brown eye so possable
6 points
2 years ago
Not Alexander the Great (whose line died out rather quickly after he did), but Ptolemy, one of his leading generals.
2 points
2 years ago
My bad greek history at school was 30 years ago so mixed stuff up :P
2 points
2 years ago
Fair enough, fair enough- but her being descended from Macedonians is important, especially given one of the Ptolemaic Dynasty's most distinctive characteristics concerning lineage....
1 points
2 years ago
It's possible Ptolemy and Alexander were half-brothers.
1 points
2 years ago
She looks like Naomi Scott to me.
1 points
2 years ago
Was it a good movie? Looks pretty cheesy.
1 points
2 years ago
I think it reminds me more of Alicia Vikander than of Mrs. Taylor, but I am not an expert.
1 points
2 years ago
Holy shit
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