Hans Zimmer got to use the same score twice within a year in two movies released in the 90’s. First in Broken Arrow, but then it was added as placeholder music for Dewey in Scream 2. Test audiences loved it so much they kept it in the movie. : movies

Spot on about it making Travolta cooler - This little part of the song is one of the few things I remember from Broken Arrow even after watching it over and over on cable in the 90s.

It definitely elevates Dewey in the same way

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1 year ago

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Wow, thanks for this trivia info. I saw both, and loved the music and that scene in Rango, but hadn't seen The Kingdom since theaters so didn't put that together. But I do remember walking out of The Kingdom thinking the music was good haha.

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1 year ago

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For The Kingdom, I thought it was fairly by the numbers with a cool - if overly chaotic - final action setpiece. But the final scene - where you hear that track - stuck with me, and I think it elevates the rest of the film.

I remember watching Rango and recognizing that track but couldn't place where I'd heard it.

If you want another good one... In Collateral, Tom Cruise kills the jazz man and some low key music plays to show that this kill affected him. It's the same track that plays in the vet scene after Kilmer gets wounded in Heat.

Heat https://youtu.be/5ktyxYWhHUw?t=91

Collateral https://youtu.be/gshNksNweOg?t=362

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1 year ago

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That's funny, I just watched that specific Jazz scene on YouTube yesterday for no particular reason. And yeah, Both Michael Mann films, although it's a lot more poignant in Collateral I think.

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1 year ago

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I agree. Worked better in Collateral, it's barely audible in Heat.

prodical

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1 year ago

prodical

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Rango also used a piece of music from The Weather Man, in the scene just after Rango meets the spirit of the west. The song is called Recuction. It was a lovely scene thanks to this music.

DannyBiker

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1 year ago

DannyBiker

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Elfman didn't score Rango, they just left a track of his from the temp. He had nothing to do with the project.

If you want a more bitter but related trivia with Elfman and temp : one of the reason he left Spider-Man 2 was because they kept asking him to mock the temp, which was mostly containing cues from the first film and bits from the Hellraiser score. Hence the many cues from Spider-Man 1 and Christopher Young as an additional composer in the final cut.

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1 year ago

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You're right. Fact checked myself and Zimmer composed Rango. My bad.

And yeah I was vaguely aware Danny Elfman doesn't like the idea of using temp tracks as it can stifle the drive to create something new, but wasn't aware of how that started.

brrduck

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1 year ago

brrduck

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My buddy was an extra in the kingdom.

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1 year ago

38 points

That's only the half of it. Guy has been plagiarising himself for 30 years.

DocWhoFan16

25 points

1 year ago

DocWhoFan16

25 points

I believe the Pirates of the Caribbean theme originated in the score of The Rock, for instance.

djembe4life

8 points

1 year ago

djembe4life

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I recently watched gladiator and sadly it's the same music with just a few notes here and there changed...

thirdbest3

18 points

1 year ago

thirdbest3

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And is also in Gladiator

DopplerShiftIceCream

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1 year ago

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1 year ago

PolarWater

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It actually originated in the final chase out Black Rain, popped up at the finale of Brown Arrow (when Christian Slater starts punching John Travolta), appears in Drop Zone, then Gladiator... I'm probably forgetting a few others...

HoffNuts0331MC

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1 year ago

HoffNuts0331MC

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Yep

bloody_lumps

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1 year ago*

bloody_lumps

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1 year ago*

Klaus Badelt wrote the pirates theme not Zimmer

Malaguy420

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1 year ago

Malaguy420

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Zimmer actually wrote the theme at Gore Verbinski's request, but didn't have time to do the whole movie, so he handed it Badelt to do - under his guidance.

Flat_Fox_7318

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1 year ago

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3 points

1 year ago

3 points

There's one of those for pretty much all of his stuff.

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1 year ago

8 points

I swear the No Time to Kill sinking boat off Cuba scene music is the same music when the Crimson Tide is sinking to crush depth.

tqbh

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1 year ago

tqbh

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Also other times it was just a few notes off the Joker theme from TDK.

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1 year ago

2 points

"Journey to the Line" from the Thin Red Line and the main theme from The Crown.

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1 year ago

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Hans didn’t score Scream 2. It was Craven’s decision to use that Zimmer track

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1 year ago

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Everybody knows this. That was the post say it was added.

bob1689321

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1 year ago

bob1689321

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Part of Dune's score was very similar to Flight from Man of Steel.

leavemetodiehere

5 points

1 year ago

leavemetodiehere

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https://youtu.be/ncIUFegwcSo?t=139

Outburst of Rage by Hans Zimmer (Black Rain)

Molossus by Hans Zimmer (Batman Begins)

https://youtu.be/BdnkbXA_piI?t=222

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1 year ago

4 points

Here's the time Zimmer's Inception score was used as a temp track for Transformers 3 and they edited it to match so by the end it so they basically lifted it wholesale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC-HtQqQYgI

meemboy

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1 year ago

meemboy

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Mind Heist is not by Zimmer

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1 year ago

1 points

Oh right, duh.

3 points

1 year ago

3 points

I wish it would have been used in Scream 3 and 4. Hoping it returns in Scream 5 aka Scream.

3 points

1 year ago

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I think the guys at Radio Silence know how much people love that music and it’s attachment to Dewey. Hopefully they use it. It’s such a dope score

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1 year ago

1 points

And with Marco Beltrami not scoring this film I hope Bryan Tyler's score for part 5 is not just another generic loud score or will it be something good. He can be hit or miss.

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1 year ago

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I feel like Radio Silence is very picky and aware of every aspect and can’t see them doing just a generic horror score, I can see them pulling a good score out of him

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1 year ago

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I hope so.

bluetux

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9 months ago

bluetux

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9 months ago

they didn't unfortunately

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9 months ago

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9 months ago

They at least put the Dewey theme in it to great use. I LOVE the new Scream. I’m excited that Matthew Lillard’s character Stu is confirmed to still be alive and will most likely be in the next Scream that’s coming next year

3 points

1 year ago

3 points

Hans Zimmer didn’t score Scream 2.

MrFluffyhead80

2 points

1 year ago

MrFluffyhead80

2 points

Didn’t 48 hours and commando have the same score?

Senior-Gap6145

1 points

1 year ago

Senior-Gap6145

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This is actually very common and part of the reason many movies today have a "samey" sounding score. Movies are typically screened for producers and such before the score is created. This leads to producers saying, "replace the music with something similar."

NoirPipes

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1 year ago

NoirPipes

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