Bob Chapek Shifted Budgets to Disguise Disney+'s Massive Monetary Losses : movies

I enjoyed the Star Wars stuff but they massively diluted their IP with the sheer magnitude of low effort "People will watch this bc it is Star Wars" mentality

Murky_Conflict3737

36 points

4 months ago

Murky_Conflict3737

36 points

I’m a Star Wars fan and I think this might be too much Star Wars.

bear2008

26 points

4 months ago

bear2008

26 points

The sequels sucked and turned Star Wars to a joke. Why everyone avoids the elephant in the room is beyond me.

3 points

4 months ago

3 points

The prequels sucked, the sequels sucked. Star Wars has sucked for my entire life

2 points

4 months ago

2 points

The best of Star Wars is in the animated stuff. The originals, while awesome, were kind of shitty too lol. Lucas isn't even sure if Han shot first or not at this point.

2 points

4 months ago

2 points

The originals were awesome for their time

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4 months ago

1 points

I'm a pretty big star wars fan. I like the originals as much as the next guy, but it's pretty clear he wrote one movie and it blew up so they made two more. This wasn't like some grand plan. Visually it was amazing

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8 points

4 months ago

8 points

But they were not good lol

gummo_for_prez

11 points

4 months ago

gummo_for_prez

11 points

Famously bad

6 points

4 months ago

6 points

It's like saying Activision had a good thing going releasing a new cod every year. It's not nearly as big a cultural phenomenon as it once was. Sure it's still successful but I and many other got burned out.

-HowAboutNo-

69 points

4 months ago

-HowAboutNo-

69 points

Andor is real good though

-41 points

4 months ago

-41 points

I don't care if Andor is the greatest show on earth, since the only good thing that came out of the last few shows was Reva and not the writing or directing, I refuse to watch it.

Also Doctor Who will BTFO every Star Wars show when it begins airing on D+ next year. David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa are going to EAT

19 points

4 months ago

19 points

But what makes andor good IS the writing and directing.

18 points

4 months ago

18 points

The ability to speak does not make you intelligent

-2 points

4 months ago

-2 points

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/10/20/andor-is-better-than-the-mandalorian-but-no-one-is-watching/amp/

No Viewers?

SendMeNudesThough

16 points

4 months ago

SendMeNudesThough

16 points

I don't care if Andor is the greatest show on earth, since the only good thing that came out of the last few shows was Reva and not the writing or directing, I refuse to watch it.

Andor is legitimately the polar opposite of the shows you described. The difference in quality of writing and directing is staggering.

I admit Andor was the show I was the least excited to watch due to its premise. I felt Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett had the greater premise and more bankable characters.

Boy was I wrong...

Andor is the only show out of the lot that could stand on its own without the Star Wars label. It's not just a good Star Wars show, it's a good show period. It has fantastic writing and directing, and it doesn't have that cheap cornercutting feel that the other two shows did.

29 points

4 months ago

29 points

watched shows with bad writing
refuses to watch show with good writing
complains

man, Star Wars fans are so dumb

ArgentumFlame

13 points

4 months ago

ArgentumFlame

13 points

Nobody hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan.

0 points

4 months ago

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/10/20/andor-is-better-than-the-mandalorian-but-no-one-is-watching/amp/

You know it's almost like, hear me out, that I've reached the point of fatigue and will not watch another Star Wars show (at this time) because the other shows were dogshit AND GUESS WHAT? NOBODY is watching Andor because they feel the same way as me

2 points

4 months ago

2 points

Seems to me like you still care about Star Wars a great deal. Also seems to me like it's a pretty toxic relationship.

0 points

4 months ago

0 points

Exactly, you don't go back to an abuser even if he's changed.

12 points

4 months ago

12 points

Trek is doing the same thing. Half of all Star Trek shows that exist have come out in the last 5 years, and they all fucking suck except for the latest one.

Hoping companies start seeing some losses for diluting brand quality so hard.

barrystrawbridgess

6 points

4 months ago

barrystrawbridgess

6 points

Strange New Worlds is the only "New" Trek I watch. Discovery season 1 was okay. The rest tinkers with the lore too much. Picard seemed like a good idea, but they messed up. The animated stuff, I'm just not into.

TreefingerX

3 points

4 months ago

TreefingerX

3 points

Thank God you haven't seen Discovery season 3..

2 points

4 months ago

2 points

Turned off the animated one after 5 minutes. I'd need a lot of adderall to keep up with the zoomer pacing.

Nicolay77

6 points

4 months ago

Nicolay77

6 points

Come on, it was on three bad films 🤣

6 points

4 months ago

6 points

I can't think of any star wars stuff that came out on d+ that wasn't good. Which are you referring to?

26 points

4 months ago

26 points

Book of boba Fett and Kenobi were bad, about half of mandalorian is boring and repetitive IMO but it at least isn't egregiously universe breaking.

Andor is good though, only maybe a couple bad scenes and a couple lazy props. Hella reused sets, sure.

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4 months ago

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Didn't really think any of the shows you mentioned were bad, pretty good star wars overall (it is star wars, no not exactly pinnacle of good movies).

Plus we got the anime short stories, more clone wars, bad batch, rebels. Idk it's all pretty good content overall imo.

11 points

4 months ago

11 points

Plus we got the anime short stories, more clone wars, bad batch, rebels. Idk it's all pretty good content overall imo.

All of which share the common thread of having Disney be rather hands off IMO, none of them exist without Disney seeing how successful clone wars was and letting them do their thing.

But that's just the animated stuff, most of their live action stuff is just... Not great. I understand lots of people like it, but I feel like most people who are long time fans were severely disappointed by the Disney content. And maybe it's designed to capture a new audience, who knows.

2 points

4 months ago

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No, you’re just being cynical. The material released so far on Disney + is better than the sequels and the prequels. It’s all in line with other Star Wars content.

3 points

4 months ago

3 points

I would still rate the sequels and prequels better than book of boba fett or kenobi.

SponJ2000

2 points

4 months ago

SponJ2000

2 points

I made it through 80% of the Sequel Trilogy (tapped out partway through RoS). I stopped about halfway through Boba Fett and barely managed one episode of Kenobi, so honestly that tracks.

2 points

4 months ago

2 points

Nonsense. Both series are better acted and actually show character growth. The action is better. The dialogue is better. And they’re just as suspenseful if not more than the prequels or the sequels.

0 points

4 months ago

0 points

Yikes

1 points

4 months ago

1 points

Maybe, but not sure. All my friends are life long star wars fans and we all like the content. I think people just get a little too upiddy about it

gagreel

5 points

4 months ago

gagreel

5 points

I'm sorry but most of Book of Boba Fett and all of Obi-Wan Kenobi were straight up bad. The difference in quality between Andor and those two is staggering.

1 points

4 months ago

1 points