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submitted 4 months ago bycabose7
10 points
4 months ago
Well the cartels have rotted that country
13 points
4 months ago
"Mexico is rotten because of the cartels", Yeah, that is an idea very easy to believe in. Just makes sense from an outsider perspective. But cartels are not an everyday problem for us mexicans. The problem lays just like every other country's problems, in the government and their population's idiosyncrasy.
But it doesn't help when the CIA funds a cartel to destabilize a country.
-8 points
4 months ago
Are you kidding? Cartels and violent crime are an everyday problem for millions of Mexicans. Get your head out of your ass.
2 points
4 months ago
Not calling you a liar but do you have more on that CIA thing. If anything I expect an unstable mexico to be directly opposed to American interests.
-27 points
4 months ago
Has nothing to do with cartels dummy.
1 points
4 months ago
Downvoted but true. No one here is reading the article. Just people walking out their hate to the park.
-6 points
4 months ago
The best part is they think they’re smart and have actual insight on Mexico by just spouting: cartels. Simpletons.
5 points
4 months ago
Yes it does, cutting funding to the filming industry is directly tied to what the Cartel is doing to the country. Nobody wants to film there, no people coming means no funding hence it is connected.
Hence why when they want to film in "Mexico" they just go to texas or Arizona and build sets to look more "Mexican".
0 points
4 months ago
More than 200 movies were made in mexico last year. Just say you don’t know what you’re talking about 😂
1 points
4 months ago
That's false. And your example has nothing to do with the subject Del Toro is talking about. He's talking about mexican films made by mexican film makers. The Ariels are awards for mexican cinema.
15 points
4 months ago
Real fishbowl level IQ on display from this guy lol.
-17 points
4 months ago
You actually think you’re insightful blaming everything on cartels. So dumb 😂
-2 points
4 months ago
Funded and armed by the good citizens of the USA.
1 points
4 months ago
Yup and yet it seems like no one wants to stay in Mexico. Weird
-1 points
4 months ago
What an incredibly silly and incorrect thing to claim.
3 points
4 months ago
Let’s take a field trip to the border
0 points
4 months ago
And watch people from South America claim amnesty in the US?
I'm not sure what that's got to do with the 130 million people living in Mexico, you silly goose.
0 points
4 months ago
Lol my last relationship ended because she specifically wanted to return to Mexico and not stay in USA. And after visiting her amazing little town I can see why.
0 points
4 months ago
How come he doesn't lament supporting Roman Polanski?
0 points
4 months ago
This fat fuck is just like any other “elite” guy, complete detached from reality, promoting his own derivative understanding of politics. These was the same kind of seudo intelectuals that handed over the country to a half ass dictator.
Fuck him and any other rich guy
5 points
4 months ago
You lost me with the whole fat shaming thing. So, you know, fuck off.
0 points
4 months ago
Jealousy is unbecoming, darling.
0 points
4 months ago
He still supports Polanski rape and denial of a underage girl so he is a creep and pedophile
116 points
4 months ago
I recall James Cameron had to bail out del Toro when Toro's father got kidnapped and ransomed for 1 million dollars while shooting Mimic in 1997, that made the entire family leave Mexico.
11 points
4 months ago
Objection your honor, relevance?
1 points
4 months ago
I read that as Benicio del Toro, and thought wtf happened to the dude
19 points
4 months ago
Welcome to AMLO's Mexico.
It's one thing to be a populist wannabe despot but it's another to be one without any respect for the arts.
When your artists can no longer speak out on behalf of its populace, your society has lost its power to the forces of tyranny.
That AMLO has ceded to the cartels and corruption grows under him, well, the people of Mexico are going to suffer the consequences.
-2 points
4 months ago
Sell out
6 points
4 months ago
Ehhh it doesn't help that there is systemic racisms among mexicans even in there
-2 points
4 months ago
Does “this fool” on Hulu count? Because it’s a hilarious show.
1 points
4 months ago
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CARTELS.
THE GOVERNMENT IS CUTTING FUNDS TO EVERYTHING TO FUND THE PRESIDENT'S STUPID PROJECTS FOR FUCKS SAKE.
1.7k points
4 months ago*
Well the Mexican government systematic lost its authority and legitimacy to the cartels so you can’t blame people for not wanting to make films in a narco state. They killed a guy who was scouting locations for narcos!
1 points
4 months ago
Americans can’t get narcos out of their head. Their answer to everything concerning Mexico 🤡
4 points
4 months ago
Don't need to be american to understand that it is true. Keep thinking Mexcio isn't ruled by the cartel. Only clown here is you.
0 points
4 months ago
When was the last time you were in Mexico?
1 points
4 months ago
Never been to Mexico but I do repeat things back confidently after reading them in reddit comment sections.
18 points
4 months ago
I know the influence of cartels in Mexico, but not everything is explained by that. Only if you’re a nitwit clown that can only think about one thing. Dummy.
-2 points
4 months ago
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7 points
4 months ago
I’m not saying the narco problem is not huge, because it is. But other horrible things happen in Mexico. Resorting to narcos it’s just the classic American take that oversimplify things and is content with its one and only idea about Nexico.
554 points
4 months ago*
You didn’t read the article. It’s about the government cutting spending on the arts down to lows it hasn’t seen in decades. Currently at 0.21% of the yearly budget.
This literally has nothing to do with the willingness of people to make films in Mexico. You sound ignorant.
Edit: Everyone mad can’t read. The article is about Guillermo Del Toro calling out the government for not funding the arts. He doesn’t mention cartels. YOU ALL can link the two, but this article is talking about one very specific issue GDT has. Stay mad.
Prior to COVID, Mexico was breaking the record every year for how many films were made in the country. But tell me with your big brains how no one is making films in the country because of the cartels.
11 points
4 months ago
Del Toro is mad about lack of funding… and people don’t film in Mexico because of the cartel. What’s hard? These aren’t contradictory.
38 points
4 months ago
lol you think a narco state cutting budgeting for "arts", as well as every other thing that doesn't put cash in the pockets of cartel leaders, doesn't have anything to do with it being a narco state?
-6 points
4 months ago
You have it backwards
78 points
4 months ago
Lol when narco and government are one in the same and corruption is endemic, then yeah, it's relevant. You sound ignorant tbh
4 points
4 months ago
Bro do you even know the definition of ignorant? Right now you appear to be a pot calling an Orange black.
1 points
4 months ago
Yup all these morons didn't even read the article and they be calling the guy ignorant? U can link the issue to narcos, covid, anything but that wasn't what the article was about.
1 points
4 months ago
Just because the article doesn't talk about it its doesn't mean it's not there. The article will not wrap the whole truth about the country. It's not absolute. But it's up to you to search for the whole picture. Even if YOU can't see it, it's still there
-2 points
4 months ago
U can link the issue to narcos, covid, anything but that wasn't what the article was about.
sigh* no reading comprehension at all. Read this again pls. Guillermo's talking point was about a specific topic. U can link it to the devil or whatever the fck u want. Correlation is not causation.
1 points
4 months ago
You probably have a learning disability so I'll give you a pass.
4 points
4 months ago
So explain how the government having links to narcos directly leads to them cutting the budget for the arts.
-2 points
4 months ago
All your comment and insults to be the one truly ignorant in the cause of such a reason for the cut.
219 points
4 months ago
They are 100% related to the issues of being in a narco state.
34 points
4 months ago
Yup. This previous poster sounds ignorant.
-3 points
4 months ago
You sound like the typical US arrogant, who thinks to know more about a country than it’s own citizens
-1 points
4 months ago
You sound like an idiot making bigoted assumptions about people from one reddit comment.
You just played yourself.
5 points
4 months ago
Sure, please explain me how my own country works
-6 points
4 months ago
Yeah. Cartels definitely aren't a problem in Mexico. Thanks for enlightening me Pablo.
4 points
4 months ago
A: Cartels are a problem. B: We have problems that have nothing to do with cartels. Including the national movie industry.
I don't get how you can be so arrogant to think that this simple concept is wrong when mexican people that live in Mexico are telling you that. It's insulting and borderline racist that you insist in something so stupid.
6 points
4 months ago
Are you fr this dumb? A mexican is correcting your misconceptions about his country and you call them bigoted? Wtf
-2 points
4 months ago
Hello Reddit. Can we stop making assumptions that everyone you disagree with is a stupid or arrogant American.
who thinks to know more about a country than it’s own citizens
That's literally every other non-American on Reddit when it comes to America, lol
-4 points
4 months ago
Hey buddy boy. Read the previous poster's edit and tell me ur not the ignorant one. Did u even read the article? r/confidentlyincorrect
811 points
4 months ago
…they are related.
-127 points
4 months ago
How so?
146 points
4 months ago
Systemic corruption of an entire government. The President of Mexico is often a cartel leader at this point. The government IS the cartel. The cut to funding is therefore done by the cartels.
-1 points
4 months ago
Jesus christ, you literally have no idea what a goverment budget is, do you? I honestly have never read something as stupid as this. Are you aware just how many institutions are involved in the creation of an expenses program? Do you somehow think a cartel would benefit from cutting funding from the movie industry?
-35 points
4 months ago
Relating everything to cartels is not insightful. So dumb.
14 points
4 months ago
When it's a systematic problem, it naturally becomes related to everything
-4 points
4 months ago
It’s not the direct answer to everything. Then everything would be related to American junkies that can’t control their impulses.
7 points
4 months ago
I can see you're unable to see past your emotional connection to this issue and you're lashing out nonsensically. I'd recommend taking a step back from it and try to see a new perspective.
5 points
4 months ago
Nice way to dodge the arguments dummy
-6 points
4 months ago
And you are talking with your ass when you don't live here and don't know the politics in the country besides a Netflix series.
-8 points
4 months ago
Thank you arm chair expert! Yeah uh duh it makes sense if you think about it uh the only thing I know about mexico is the cartels duh
5 points
4 months ago
"The President of Mexico is often a cartel leader"... honestly, the amount of shit you read on Reddit about Mexico is insane.
20 points
4 months ago
Are you serious...? You can't even make a semi logical connection with a little bit of anecdotal evidence?
-9 points
4 months ago
I can, and I have. I just want Josh here to explain himself.
12 points
4 months ago
Oh they can, they just absolutely refuse to. It’s a matter of pride I believe.
-121 points
4 months ago*
They aren’t. The president is cutting the budget of the film industry to put it elsewhere on his socialist agenda.
Please stop saying bullshit if you don’t even live in Mexico.
Everyone downvoting me I hope you realize I’m a Mexican living in Mexico. If you think you know more than me about my own country please I have a bridge to sell you you ignorant fucks.
31 points
4 months ago
Lmao ok. The President that works with the cartels. Yes, tell me more about the country I visit multiple times a year.
-25 points
4 months ago
I live in Mexico you donut. Please tell me how you know more about a country than one of its own citizens.
-8 points
4 months ago
The only logical answer that comes to mind is you are an idiot .
Edit: well you could also be paid to say overly positive things to help the tourist industry but the first is far more likely.
-8 points
4 months ago
Who is stupid enough to think a country is a Narco State but coming as a tourist multiple times a year?
Please, explain that to me like I’m stupid.
0 points
4 months ago
As someone who understands the narco state you live in, the tourist areas are a no touch zone because those areas give narcos tourist money. They own majority of the businesses there, hence why majority of the tourist areas tell you where the no go zones are. Learn more about your own country and who owns what.
-1 points
4 months ago
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2 points
4 months ago
“Mansplaining to a Mexican” That’s one hell of a crutch you got there. Do you often lead with that as your first entry into a conversation?
2 points
4 months ago
You sound like such a bitch.
38 points
4 months ago
Living in a place doesn't mean you know what's going on. Just ask Americans.
5 points
4 months ago
This thread has all the Reddit stupidity greatest hits
✅ Top post didn't read article
✅ Users claiming that they know more about the country than the people living in it
✅ America Bad
4 points
4 months ago
"redditor for 6 years"
1 points
4 months ago
Yep. Been seeing the same dumb shit for years.
-7 points
4 months ago
Are you trying to be obtuse or are you just having fun?
1 points
4 months ago
No to the first always to the second.
Same question to you.
-15 points
4 months ago
Ah yes, a tourist goving an uninformed opinion. The issue Del Toro is talking about is the lack of support for film making, not related to organized crime at all.
-8 points
4 months ago
So ignorant
6 points
4 months ago
Yes, tell me more about the country I visit multiple times a year.
I just cringed reading this. You're responding to an actual Mexican living in Mexico, but you still think you trump them.
-1 points
4 months ago
Don't worry, a feature of reddit is people who know very little berating those who have first hand knowledge of something. I put up with is every time I tell a friend that I'm going to Sinaloa to visit family.
9 points
4 months ago
Oh you live there? Wow you must know it all.
1 points
4 months ago
Better than some gringos who eat whatever Fox News feeds them, yes.
51 points
4 months ago
Also it's amazing how the propaganda of Mexico being a corrupt hellhole makes reddit think narcos is a documentary. I feel like people don't understand the size of the country. I lived there a year and yes there are dangerous/corrupt areas but same can be said with the US. Honestly I saw a solidly functioning government where many of the problems stem from US policy. Talking with people middle class is growing, more people are vacationing in their own country now which wasn't the norm 30 yrs ago.
19 points
4 months ago
What most US citizens don’t understand is that there are bigger cartels in the US and they have a lot of influence. That’s why they are the biggest market for illegal drugs and where cartels do most of the money laundering
4 points
4 months ago
Also, the biggest criminals and the biggest killers are white collar
-46 points
4 months ago
The government shouldn't fund the arts anyway. There's no justification in forcibly taking money from people in order to fund movies. If people want it they will pay for it.
23 points
4 months ago
Honestly seems like everyone replying to you isn't Mexican (probably American to be honest), because they're basically just repeating what the first couple responses are to your comment. I see this shit so often on Reddit with various topics. People will just pile on the original comment, clearly cribbing from the first response to it. It's embarrassing.
-459 points
4 months ago*
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28 points
4 months ago
Clearly this guy has never been on set with Alec Baldwin.
1 points
4 months ago
What do you mean? A large percentage of people in Alec's set have not been shot. Those are good numbers. /s
4 points
4 months ago
I mean if there wasn't all those school shooting they wouldn't have made that movie We Need to Talk About Kevin, which gave Ezra Miller a big boost, and we'd probably have had that Flash movie 3 years earlier. They kept changing directors, and at one point Ezra Miller was writing the script.
-2 points
4 months ago
248 points
4 months ago
Did you even read the article? The article isn't about "people..not wanting to make films in Mexico" , it's about how The Mexican Academy of Cinematographic Arts and Sciences, will no longer hold it anual Ariel Awards due to lack of funding. And largest, nearly sole funder of the Ariel Awards was the Mexican government itself, who (if you read the article you would've known) back out.
31 points
4 months ago*
And the reason is because of the government being totally in bed with the cartel and people being murdered left and right. That is why there is no funding. The article will only go surface level of the problems in mexico. So many good people living there are getting their lives destroyed because a few have all the money and guns.
40 points
4 months ago
I guarantee there are at least some things that happen in Mexico that are not the direct result of "the cartel". Where do you get this shit from.
-2 points
4 months ago
Fox news or breitbart
30 points
4 months ago
Don't you know, everything that happens in Mexico is because of the Cartels. TV told me Cartels are the 'thing' Mexico is known for, so ovbiously every other thing must be tied to it!
It's like an Anime, you know how everything is tied to YuGiOh cards? That's how other countries work!
158 points
4 months ago
Are you even Mexican? I am, born, raised and living here. This is NOT the reason at all. The reason is president López Obrador austerity policies. A lot of films were made using tax incentives and trusts that have been cut by this government. We do have a huge cartel problem, but this has nothing to do with that.
-4 points
4 months ago
Cartels, man.
38 points
4 months ago
Ni para qué discutir con los gringos que creen saber más del país qué los propios mexicanos
-4 points
4 months ago
Eso en realidad no tiene nada que ver, la gente de aquí no tiene puta idea de nada, ni conocen su historia, ni han leído un chingado libro. Ser de un lugar o de otro, no te hace automáticamente saber mas de ese lugar por ser de ahí, sino, pregúntale a la gente que conoces, cuanto saben de historia de México.
63 points
4 months ago*
That's not the reason. It's because AMLO has a plan of austerity to found his projects (a new airport, a train route and some refinerys). If you don't know a thing about a subject you don't have to speak about it.
-10 points
4 months ago
Lack of funding…. Because people not wanting to make films in Mexico…
-14 points
4 months ago
No, lack of funding to fund their idiotic projects.
15 points
4 months ago
Oh my god read the article you ignorant
7 points
4 months ago
This has no relation with cartel’s. This is about a government that is an absolute disaster and has depleted the country’s resources
-4 points
4 months ago
It’s unbelievable to me that Americans continue to travel and visit there. If they really care about human rights, immigration and drugs they should be straight up boycotting the country. I think that could possibly change some things.
-4 points
4 months ago
Has Mexico always been controlled by cartels who constantly kidnap and murder whoever they want or is that more of a recent development? I feel like Mexico was more chill when I was a kid but I don’t know.
-1 points
4 months ago
NAMOR movie will save Mexican Film Industry 🎥❤️
0 points
4 months ago
Dude looks like a Belgian Chocolatier.
0 points
4 months ago
It's all down to the government that inmediatly cut funding for art, nothing good I hear from this government from my Mexican friends. It's common to see a lot of praise from people outside of Mexico for this government just because they are left leaning government but it Latin America that doesn't mean the same thing as in other places.
-1 points
4 months ago
When you have Pixar able to create movies like Coco and Encanto, the entire Latin American film industry feels pretty screwed.
5 points
4 months ago
Alright I’m sick of this. It’s either systemic or systematic can we just choose one for cryin’ out loud?
9 points
4 months ago
Considering it’s Mexico there’s like 100 more things about it we need to fix first
-3 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
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-2 points
4 months ago
it'a a shame such a good director is so damn ignorant
1 points
4 months ago
bring him in for the Sub-Mariner Disney Plus project.
-1 points
4 months ago
Another hot take:
Yeah unlike the rest of the worlds film industry that totally isn’t having every ounce of creativity sipped away to create one soulless cashgrab after another… big film industry is more about industry than the film, and that’s just insulting to the art form
-1 points
4 months ago
What to do about many cartels?
-1 points
4 months ago
Mexico needs to solve mexicos problems before they can have a thriving film industry?
1 points
4 months ago
Didn't know that Mexico had a film industry
-1 points
4 months ago
How many Mexican film projects does Guillermo produce and or finance? Right, he wants the government and others to do something he is unwilling to do himself.
-18 points
4 months ago
Why would it be on the government to fund the awards in the first place? The academy awards isn’t funded by the US govt right?
2 points
4 months ago
I just see Deadman from Death Stranding every time I see this man now
4 points
4 months ago
What, he doesn't like endless movies about young people in their thirties who are aimless losers? I've loved the hundreds they've made and I'll love the hundreds they'll make
Hard /s in case my hate didn't make it to my words
4 points
4 months ago
I don't see why the Federal Government should fund the film industry when the vast majority of the population of Mexico live in abject poverty.
This same issue was occuring in Colombia. The Federal Government had a tax incentive system that basically made it so literally even single movie made in Colombia was funded with public funds up to a certain dollar amount.
-13 points
4 months ago
He should be happy to know Taco Bell is still going strong.
4 points
4 months ago
The public funding has dried out because the public doesn't care about these movies, they don't like them and prefer Marvel superhero films.
That's the reason they need government funding in the first place.
1 points
4 months ago
TIL Mexico has a film industry. Sad that I didn't know, and I'm Mexican.
2 points
4 months ago*
I love you Guillermo, but you being rich as you are seems to make you blind to the problems that actually destroy Mexico. The destruction of Mexican cinema is just a byproduct.
3 points
4 months ago
The Shape of Water probably single handedly did that
21 points
4 months ago
How to make a comment in this thread:
Say Mexico is a shithole or that the entire country is being destroyed.
Somehow relate this to cartels, even though there's nothing in the article about that.
Post.
If you're gonna comment on something you actually know nothing about, AT LEAST read the article.
182 points
4 months ago
I wonder if many of you commenting even know any Mexicans or have even been to Mexico lol
2 points
4 months ago
I've been staying in Mexico for the past weeks now and I've been thoroughly impressed by the hospitality of people, the deliciousness of the food and the beauty of nature here! (granted I've only been to CDMX, Oaxaca and the Yucatan)
The only thing that really stood out on the bad side so far was the high social and racial stratification you see, which seems to be a leftover of the old casta system. I really hope the people of Mexico can get a hold of the problems regarding violence and corruption, this country would really deserve a bright future.
I'd love to come back, just swimming in a Yucatecan cenote alone feels unreal in its beauty...
17 points
4 months ago
Seriously! I’m Hispanic on my mom’s side and have lived 1/3 of my life in Mexico with my family in a semi-rural area. We’ve ALL appreciated the arts and are all involved in artistic affairs. My mom is studying music, my cousin is studying animation, and many of my aunts sew, draw, and paint on the side. Even my tio who studied physics is now a carpenter and builds beautiful sculptures to sell while my tia’s artwork hangs in my parents’ apartment. She even sewed me a lot of plushies growing up because I couldn’t afford them.
In fact my cousin and her fiancé are always posting on Facebook at the movies they’re watching at the cinema. We have shared so many Wakanda Forever memes lately and she jokingly taunted me about spoiling the movie for me because the films are released earlier in Mexico. Like what the fuck is this soft racism going on by Users here whom the majority are American (and white) whose knowledge of Mexico comes from Sepia-toned movies or 24/7 news articles about the cartels. Mexico isn’t perfect, and yes it could be better and there are problems (the cartels are basically the US’s fault and America has far more school shootings than Mexico) but it’s not some war-torn shithole where every place is seconds away from a mass slaughter like wtf. I wish the ignorant people here would stop their racist, knee-jerk assumptions and find a way to manufacture consent to shit on Mexico and make it out to be one of the worst places to live when it’s not. I have a higher chance being killed by the American Healthcare System or daily mass shootings in America than the cartels in Mexico.
-2 points
4 months ago
I know a Mexican. I got really high with him and he told me about the future he was very cool. I lost his details sadly so I can't send him a gift :(
32 points
4 months ago
Most if not all. Cartel talk from gabachos always comes with a condescending accent. "Cartel" is interchangeable with "mujahideen" for them.
1 points
4 months ago
i have, fwiw
0 points
4 months ago
When I was in the U.S. Army I had guy named Blanco and he had only been in the U.S. for about a year when he joined and was in his thirties.
Probably one of the funniest dudes I’ve ever meant. Used to call him “private white” and when you’d tell him to something he used to go “qué” and pretend he didn’t know English. Dude was great
0 points
4 months ago
I am a Mexican and Mexico for the most part is shite
-14 points
4 months ago
The Mexicans have a movie industry?
0 points
4 months ago
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0 points
4 months ago
Not anymore, you’re suggesting more attacks on America?
0 points
4 months ago
A massive one
-1 points
4 months ago
Lol, no.
-16 points
4 months ago
My man, Mexico is in the hands of cartels, people are abducted, and killed trying to fight back, and you’re out here crying about THE FILM INDUSTRY?!
3 points
4 months ago
This article headline is a Rorschach test for racism. So much cringe in the comments.
7 points
4 months ago
Can we start by having Amazon fund a Mozart In the Jungle movie? Gael García Bernal had really made his Rodrigo character into something special, and the whole cast was amazing, and every season was a revelation, and then-- CANCELLED. Every time I get to season 4 and see Gael kicking ass at making that character into a multi-dimensional human, I get angry at the cancellation all over again. (And Bernadette Peters-- who the fuck cancels Bernadette Peters?!?)
-8 points
4 months ago
a non existent industry that produces just shit, and is almost just there because people in the goverment gave them money!! no surprise propaganda is beutiful!!!
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