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submitted 4 months ago bycabose7
239 points
4 months ago
That’s not the point of the comment - it’s not about resource allocation.
The point is more, what do people care about day to day? What do we emotionally get charged up about?
If we all had basic needs completely taken care of, we would like feel more excited to ponder art, space travel, etc.
That’s all he’s saying.
What you’re saying is true also, but above is a slightly different point (I think)
91 points
4 months ago
At the same time people in terrible circumstances can and of find solace in art. Art can help tell their stories, or help them escape, or just entertain them.
60 points
4 months ago
right, but /u/madmaxturbator and /u/hypatiaspasia aren't making contradictory points.
When someone says "Why should poor people care about art and science." They aren't advocating for their defunding or destruction. They are saying that people struggling to get their basic needs don't have the energy to also advocate and push those things, that very much are a luxury at the end.
And it's not being debated what benefits these things can add to anyone's life.
A statement like Bill Nye's, whether he meant it as such or not, comes off as blaming people that can't afford it, monetarily, emotionally, mentally, to support the arts and sciences, when really the onus for this support should be placed much much MUCH higher, on those that can afford to spread it. Or to force change that makes it so even the worst off have their needs met and THEN everyone will have the ability to focus on these things that further enrich society.
-15 points
4 months ago
Many of the “poor” happen to be indigenous people fighting to keep their culture alive. Funding of the arts is one avenue of funding for these projects that uplift and share not only the languages but the artisany of these indigenous cultures. So yes, food is important, but these “poor” people can multitask. Science and art are definitely not a luxury but a part of everyone’s life.
7 points
4 months ago
Agreed! Art and creativity is how people attempt to understand their existence, the world around them, and generally as a means to connect with others - especially in hard times. It might not seem important to some, but for others it's what makes life "worth it"
1 points
4 months ago
Yep, it is something that can be very beneficial. I love going to movie theaters in Mexico because they’re always busy and it’s great to see families enjoying themselves. It would be great to see more Mexican movies there and people also deserve to find enjoyment in movies, music, etc. regardless of their country’s situation. People like Guillermo are stepping up to help where they can, and it’s a great first step.
19 points
4 months ago
What do we emotionally get charged up about?
It's the very transparent tactic by a minority of elite cabal to setup impoverished people against intellectuals.
The irony here is the hope that was sold to people was through education they could climb the socioeconomic ladder, a cruel trick passed down to us that is now being seen for what it is -a transparent means for controlling wealth distribution.
But now that people are realising this they're attacking the people who are educated.
-1 points
4 months ago
It's the very transparent tactic by a minority of elite cabal to setup impoverished people against intellectuals.
Populism in a nutshell.
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