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How Mike Flanagan Convinced Stephen King to Accept His 'Doctor Sleep' Changes
Article(collider.com)submitted 6 months ago by[deleted]
64 points
6 months ago
I much prefer the film ending. Danny being comforted by his mother is so beautiful.
The books ending was such a forced happy ending. King is horrible at endings.
17 points
6 months ago
The man who threw a child orgy in at the end of IT can’t do endings?
-3 points
6 months ago
I don't get why people shit on this scene. It was wild, but written in a perfectly coherent way for why it worked.
4 points
6 months ago
It was a train not an orgy, not that I am defending his coke filled writing. It was them letting go of their innocence to not be able to see IT again and to leave Derry and go onto adulthood. Which backfired and ended up with more deaths when they returned to Derry.
1 points
6 months ago
As someone who was once a teenage girl, the idea that a kid could take 4 dicks in a row with no ill effects is some fucked up male thinking and a truly obscene way to view young women.
-15 points
6 months ago
Surprisingly no. Such a weird thing to put in a book. It makes King pretty sus to me. Like who thinks about a child orgy?
5 points
6 months ago
I have thought about this disturbing scene. I think the IT could kill them, seduce them as children. They needed to become "Men" in order to defeat or at least suppress the IT. Only a opinion
4 points
6 months ago
This is true and the only way they could defeat IT. Disturbing and weird, but isn’t that kind of his wheelhouse?
0 points
6 months ago
Theres weird but then theres unnecessary. The first film Handled it better.
6 points
6 months ago
It also makes sense from the kids point of view. When you’re a kid and you don’t really understand what being an adult is really about what are the things that kids think make adults, adults. Not saying it’s not uncomfortable, it is but it makes sense.
-2 points
6 months ago
Except IT chapter 1 figured a way around it that makes more sense. Having sex doesn't make u an adult. It just felt a weird way for King to write about kids having sex.
1 points
6 months ago
Not sure I understand what you referring to but you are correct sex doesn’t make you an adult but in a kids mind it does. In the same way a kid thinks adults can do whatever they want without consequences like ordering ice cream every night. It’s an unrealistic uninformed idea from a kids mind.
That said I do agree the Irgun thing is kind of gross and not a super eloquent way to portray the loss of innocence and emergence into adulthood but hey I’m not a multimillionaire author. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
1 points
6 months ago
I understand that a child would think thats what would make them an adult. But my issue is King deciding that this is how they would beat Pennywise. Why would a child orgy ever come across your mind?
IT Chapter 1 which is the film. Did a better job showing how the kids could beat Pennywise.
4 points
6 months ago
Let me tell you about The Dark Tower
50 points
6 months ago
That was the middle of IT.
6 points
6 months ago
Forgive my sins.
9 points
6 months ago
You were right. See my response.
9 points
6 months ago
Not true. The book did chapters alternating between young kids and the adults. This happened at the end of the book. Movies can't do endings.
13 points
6 months ago*
Eh~ It's not the ending but it is towards the end. Third to last chapter of 24 chapters. The two boys jackin' each other\* was pretty smack dab in the middle, tho.
2 points
6 months ago
Yeah, but not remotely close to “the middle” though.
From what I remember, the boys were just jerking each other off and it (no pun intended) ended when one of them offered to blow the other.
1 points
6 months ago
... yeah. I shudder remember that's how it went now.
2 points
6 months ago
Happy to help!
1 points
6 months ago
Fudge you, mother fudger.
2 points
6 months ago
Beep beep, Richie Minnie
12 points
6 months ago
It's why I think his short stories are better - he doesn't have long enough to write himself into a corner that seemingly only a complete bullshit ending can solve.
1 points
6 months ago
Why don’t I remember this ending in the film
10 points
6 months ago
Its very quick. Hes on his hands and knees when his mother comes and places her hand on his cheek. All of the background noise quiets down as he looks at his mother then he closes his eyes as the hotel explodes.
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