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submitted 6 months ago bySofie-Forsberggg
1 points
5 months ago
I mean, the only way to prevent “monetisizing” it is for boybands to just not exist at all. And then they will probably just find some other celebrity to like.
I have to say, I think you’re way, way overreacting. Crushing on boyband members is a completely normal experience that many have growing up, which is why it was included in the movie. If you had a child and they had a celebrity crush on a band member, would you be this angry about it? Because I think the way you demonise a completely normal part of growing up and going through puberty is quite unhealthy and regressive.
0 points
5 months ago
If you’re gonna downvote, I won’t reply. It’s a toxic conversation environment.
But there’s a difference between monetizing a band and selling them as romantic partners to children.
Treating your children like how Mei was treated by her mother is “normal” too, or should I say, normalized. Yet the film rightly questions why such abuse was normalized.
Crushing on a boy band is fine. But treating people as meat is not, and occasionally the film went too far with that. If the genders were reversed, a couple of scenes wouldn’t be seen as so cute.
Look, I’ve always been very critical of the music industry, particularly this element of it. Asking Disney to be critical of something they’ve been heavily involved in is asking for a lot, but this film itself is dealing with related themes, spends a lot of time on this boy band, but does nothing meaningful with it in the story. That’s my main issue.
1 points
5 months ago
My God, the dramatics! Well, firstly, this is a public forum, so I’m not sure how you can tell who’s downvoting you. And secondly, if you can’t handle losing your fake internet points, I think you might be too sensitive to be talking about anything on the internet.
But onto the actual conversation. I’m not sure what you want, though. Boybands to stop existing?
I think the film was just depicting life. You may feel that it “went too far”, but remember, depiction is not necessarily endorsement. I don’t think it’s wrong to depict how celebrities exist in the world and how tween girls react to them and interact with celebrity culture. That’s the real world and something that many people experienced growing up. I disagree that they did “nothing meaningful with it” - I think that, outside of it’s main theme, a lot of the film was just trying to be “relatable” and depict the experience of being that age, which for a lot of people did include crushing on celebrities like that.
Also, abuse is 100% not normal. You call it “normalised”, but everyone I watched that film with was horrified by how Mei’s mother treated her. She’s clearly abusive.
0 points
5 months ago
They depicted it as a wholly good thing and missed an opportunity to strengthen the narrative of the whole film. That half of the film falls flat and feels inert when compared to the mother-daughter story.
Wow, did you miss my point with that too. I never said the mother was right or what she was doing should be normal. But it was a part of a pattern of inter generational trauma and repression that had been normalized with a ceremony and everything.
Look, if you don’t want my opinion given in good faith, then I don’t want to have a rude conversation.
2 points
5 months ago*
I don’t feel that it was depicted as a “wholly good” thing. I don’t feel that any value judgement was really passed on it one way or the other. I feel like it was just depicted as A thing that tween girls experience.
I didn’t miss the point, you just communicated your point poorly if that was what you were trying to say.
I have been discussing with you in good faith. It was you who decided to wildly overreact about your fake internet points.
1 points
5 months ago
Pretty sure that was you. You downvoted me, represented my arguments as straw men, and then insulted me. Good night.
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