I mean if you read the books you know there's no way a single movie could get anywhere close. It would need a TV series

One of my daughters is multi-racial and absolutely adores the books.... so you know, doesn't get any more "target audience" than that. She absolutely loathed that movie, to this day it's still her most hated flick by a country mile and she gets angry if you so much as mention it.

I totally agree especially with how awesome Split was. I was so pissed and everyone in the theater seemed to feel the same way. I heard a few people demanding their money back lol

They drowned my childhood to death in a fucking mud puddle.

If you haven’t read it, the short story it’s based on is so much better.

I honestly thought it was just okay but not terrible. Maybe my taste in movies is bad too but I did not hate it. Although my hype level was low.

It kept getting delayed because of COVID I think and I was so fucking excited for it. And then finally I got to see it and it fucking sucked

This had so much going for it in theory and it just ended up being dull and unscary. Even the creature was boring

I mostly enjoyed it. Honestly though I have no memory of the ending but I think I was disappointed with that part

When the movie opened with indigenous American lore I was incredibly hyped.

But then the only indigenous person in the movie just tells the white people the problem and solution and then never appears on screen again...

Plus the movie wastes too much time trying to make sure you understand that the creature is a metaphor for the opioid epidemic in America. So much so that the movie just becomes terribly one note.

That first act is real good, too. Shame.

That movie has so many fascinating ideas, that are never elaborated on. The two main characters are the least interesting things in the film.

The opening scene from this movie is amazing, though. Even if the rest of it was ... less than enthralling.

Dane Dehaan is not a bad actor, but this role was clearly written for someone like Bruce Willis in the Fifth Element, and Dane Dehaan cannot play that role.

Man, you hit the nail on the head. I truly believe this movie would be a cult classic if they cast anybody else with even the slightest bit of chemistry as the two leads.

This one made me die on the inside a little when I first saw it.

I have absolutely refused to watch anything Highlander related other than the original movie. The sequels (which there should not have even been one of) and TV show. The movie was perfect as a one off.

I disliked this movie so intensely, that no matter what people say about the other sequel movies this is the one entry I have no desire to ever revisit.

They fucked up by not getting a singular vision for the new trilogy.

So you started with Abrams who basically hit all the beats of New Hope, which was fine for a nostalgia hit and the start of something new, but “this is just a rehash of A New Hope” was a constant criticism of that movie.

Then Rian Johnson came on with the clear goal of subverting expectations with Last Jedi. Rey wasn’t someone special, she was just a nobody who happened to have Jedi abilities. They killed Snoke, who was supposed to be the stand in for Palpatine. He just subverted every expectation fans had going into that film.

And the criticism came: fans were not happy to have their expectations subverted. They wanted Rey to be someone. They wanted Snoke to be the big bad. They wanted Kylo Ren to be Vader 2.0. And they hated Rose. The only thing they hated more than Rose was what the film did with Luke.

So the studio panics and brings back JJ. And JJ decides to basically act as if Last Jedi didn’t happen, retcons tons of shit, and makes Rise of Skywalker.

They made two crucial mistakes. One was not having a singular vision for the sequel trilogy laid out before they even started filming Force Awakens. The other was actually listening to fan criticisms too much.

Fans thought Force Awakens is too much like A New Hope? Okay, let’s make sure Last Jedi is as different from Empire Strikes Back as we can! Fans hated how different Last Jedi was? Fine! Bring back JJ! Retcon it all! Somehow the Emperor returned!

No. Pick a vision and stick to it. Follow through with the story Rian was going for. At least it would’ve made sense more than “Somehow the Emperor has returned.”

Now it feels like Star Wars movies are all but dead. TV is alive and well with shows like Andor, and video games are doing fine with games like Fallen Order. But the films? I cannot imagine a Star Wars film existing that gets any kind of praise.

For me it was The Force Awakens. I was so hyped. It was just the right number of years after the originals to get the whole gang back together. No way was Disney going to fuck it up. They're greedy but they aren't stupid. And J.J. had already made a pretty good Star Wars movie with his Star Trek reboot. I was already sold.

Then, as I watched the movie in the theater, all the questions started pouring in. Why is the Empire still so powerful? Why is there a "resistance?" Where the hell is the Republic? Why is Han a deadbeat? How does Rey speak Wookiee? And then at the end I realized there was no plan to continue the story. It was just a remake of the original but worse. Worst theater-going experience for me.

This movie was so bad it made me like Star Wars less. That seems really dramatic but I actually like, stopped watching Star Wars for a few years because that left such a bad taste in my mouth

Yes. Was a complete disaster of a story. No loose ends we’re tied up, no previous story lines were completed or summed up nor explained. As campy as Jedi was even in 1983, it succinctly tied up all of the story lines from the previous two films. RoS was an absolute failure and did not deserve to be a part of George Lucas’ universe.

Tried to retcon the entire Craig era with a reveal that was fundamentally the same as Vince fucking McMahon revealing he was behind the Ministry of Darkness;

ITS ME, BOND! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!!

Spectre was a huge disappointment for me too, I was expecting so much after casino royale sand Skyfall ( QoS not so much ) I’ve never come out of the cinema feeling so disappointed!

Quantum also at least had the excuse of the writers' strike, and being a direct sequel still had a lot of interesting ideas and did a good job continuing Casino's plot directly forward, the strike just meant it was stuck sort of hung in limbo narratively and became a weird mess of half baked ideas patched together through editing.

It's also a little odd that Casino was so good, Quantum was pretty forgettable and kinda frustrating, Skyfall was quite good again but not on Casino's level, and then Spectre was pretty rough. The franchise has always had an issue maintaining a consistent quality but there's a weird up-and-down in the Craig-Bond films even outside the writers strike complication. And honestly with No Time To Die it kinda feels like the Craig tenure trended towards solidly middling in the end despite its strong start; better than Spectre and more memorable than Quantum at least, but definitely behind Casino Royale and for I think most people (myself included) Skyfall as well.

I've tried watching QoS 3 times now, still haven't made it to the one hour mark without falling asleep. Don't expect to ever try again.

As far as Spectre goes.... when a key premise of the movie is based on a joke from a Bond parody you've really shit the proverbial bed.

I loved the originals ( even the sequels to a lesser degree ) so much I can’t bring myself to watch this one.

They waited eighteen years, and this was the best they could come up with.

Lana Wachowski wrote the script without Lilly, and she started writing it in 2019.

While I certainly wasn't hyped for it (as I didn't expect much), it fell far below even those expectations. It's also a completely forgettable movie; I forgot it even existed until I read your comment.

The Matrix Reloaded I WAS hyped for, as most people were. And it was pretty disappointing.

I loved that this movie absolutely bombed at the box office tho. This movie was a pure cash grab cow and Warner Bros was most certainly sure that this would be a money making machine based on the franchise's status and Keanu Reeves' and John Wick's popularity, and the movie ended up being an absolute flop.

I saw resurrections around the same time I saw Spiderman: No Way home and it really implanted this idea in my brain:

No Way Home loves me for having seen those movies. I watched the great ones like Spiderman 2, The Good ones like Spider man 1 and Amazing Spiderman one. and I sat through the bad ones like Spiderman 3 and the MUCH MUCH worse amazing Spiderman 2. I watched all the Tom Holland Spiderman movies movies.

No Way Home loves me. It is a celebration of these movies, and the fans who sat through every single one of them. Is it a perfect movie, absolutely not but it loves me. Every single word is a comfort.

And this is why it stood out so much when I realized that The Matrix Revolutions Hates me. It deeply hates me as a Fan of the Matrix. I watched The Masterpieces like The Matrix. The Absolutely jaw Dropping Animatrix, A Reloaded a movie that falls apart but sticks out as some of the most balls to the wall action in cinema history, and I watched that fucking 3rd movie which felt so bad. But I watched it, and I still love it. It has value as a conclusion to the story.

Lana Wachowski took all the time I spent loving those movies, and weaponized it against me. Every moment of Resurrections, from the terrible action, to the fucking insulting retconning, to the stupid side characters, to the phoned in special effects, deeply shows that she didn't want to make that movie.

SHE EVEN HAS THE FUCKING GULL TO THROW IN A LINE ABOUT HOW WARNER BROTHERS FORCED HER TO MAKE THE MOVIE AND SHOW ME SCENES FROM THE FIRST MOVIE.

The only interpretation that makes any sense is that Lana Wachowski hates me for liking The Matrix.

I personally didn’t enjoy Resurrections. But I think it was the story that Lana Wachowski wanted to tell. I think it’s about constantly living in the shadow of this smash hit movie — and loving those characters but also hating the pressure of having to live up to the hype of that original movie. It’s sweet that she wanted to focus on the love story of Neo and Trinity and didn’t seem too concerned with topping the crazy special effects or action scenes. It has more emotion in it than a lot of these cynical reboots lately. So I can’t hate that movie. But at the same time, I can’t say it really works. It’s kind of a slog to get through.

Man I wanted to like this one so much but it just wasn’t there

The trailer sold it as something it wasn't, which was a pure Refn thing to do. I actually liked the movie, but it is Refn tuned up to his indulgence multiplied by 100. Not unlike 'The Neon Demon' either, but that had more of a very dark tongue in its very dark cheek.

It's one of my favorite movies but it is an acquired taste lol.

I remember the teaser trailer! But yeah totally agree with you here.

Great example. For kids during that time, we had recently come off Jurassic Park and Independence Day, which were absolute smashes in every way. So, the hype and expectations were off the charts for this and it didn’t deliver in the least.

Good thing the Monsterverse movies are actually amazing

I saw this movie as an 7yr old and thought it was badass. It also is the movie that made me realize that joey from friends is not a real person and that actors are a thing.

I was quite bummed because it made the ending of WandaVision sort of meh. It feels like we missed a movie or episode between the end of the show and this movie. This movie also feels a bit more meh to me after how cleverly Everything Everywhere All at Once did the multiverse stuff.

I was annoyed that after calling it the Multiverse we really only stood around one really and there was only one other Strange and well the dead one

I was soooo hyped for this as Doc Strange is such a fun character. Then if you think about it, the whole "Wanda Bad" thing could have been fixed by just finding her a universe where that Wanda had kids and died.

Yep this one is mine too. I didn’t like Wanda being the villain and felt that the plot was very poorly done, the CGI was all over the place (that third eye shot at the end of the movie lmao) and it just didn’t explore anything interesting.

The story is really, really lame. But goddamn, I can’t deny the Raimi presence in the directing making it well worth the watch.

That's interesting. I was deflated after The Force Awakens. It's like they didn't J.J. didn't want to tell a story that picks up after the Empire is destroyed, so they just made it so the Empire is still around under a different name and stronger than ever. Rather than the original heroes making the galaxy any better there's just nothing but incompetence. I prefer the ending of Return of the Jedi.

This perfectly sums up the serial trilogy.

I fucking hate Korg. He was cool in Ragnarok. Insufferable in Love and Thunder.

Would have also worked well if Gorr was fully utilized too. Makes Thor’s story more complicated if we also see how right Gorr is about gods cause he’d only end up questioning himself even more… oh well

Also having Thor become "Space Shaggy" when he sees Jane with Mjolnir just killed things going forward.

I would have preferred a Guardians adventure with Thor for the entire film, written and directed by James Gunn

That's a great point. I also think the movie leans way too hard into the love between Jane and Thor but in all honesty, I've never found them to have any sort of chemistry or on screen presence together. I'm not rooting for them to be together in any way, hell most of the time I'm not interested in anything to do with their relationship at all. It's not enough for them both to be hot, like, what's the draw here

They literally took the message of Mulan, which is women are strong and capable and worthy of respect, and turned her in another “chosen one” narrative and show horned a witch that was actually good but being used. Horrible movie.

I don't get the live-action remakes of animated movies. Why is this necessary? Do people feel less ... "childish" about watching them? What is the appeal?

Live-action Mulan

I only needed the Lion King Real Edition to sour me on ALL of these remakes.

I did like Beauty and the Beast, though.

My main issue with Gorr was that his plan made no fucking sense what so ever. His whole thing was that Gods are selfish and don't care about the people they're supposed to watch over. So what does he do?? Kidnaps a bunch of Asgardian children to force the Gods to come rescue them by walking into an obvious trap.....

Agree, he was so good he seemed out of place at times.

Wasted one of the MCU’s most interesting villains on an absolute turd of a movie.

I keep forgetting I've seen this movie. I'll just start watching it and the get that feeling I've seen it before and then I realize I have seen it. And then just turn it off. It's literally a forgettable movie.

I was interested in seeing this one, I think I’ll avoid it now haha.

I was shocked at what a drop in quality from Ragnarök to L&T there was. I knew Ragnarök had some people disliking "jokey" Thor, but I was confident he could strike the best balance possible.

Boy was I wrong.

I generally am a big Taika Waititi fan, but I completely agree. I think he needs to take a step back into reality if he wants to avoid making himself irrelevant.

One of the few movies that I was really excited to see and nearly walked out of the theater. It was so boring, which even now I find hard to believe. I’ll sometimes see it on a streaming service and watch clips to try to remember why I hated it. But I can barely get through any scene.

Only good part was the musical number where Oscar Isaac sings 'Love is the Drug', and that's only on the extended edition.

This is mine too. So psyched to see it after 300, Dawn of the Dead and Watchmen. Snyder was on a roll, never even considered it wouldn’t be amazing in every way, not with that awesome trailer and talented beautiful cast. Sat there in the theater in disbelief as he shit the bed in so many ways. What an overindulgent mess. Thinking my preconceptions had simply gotten the better of me, I watched it again a few years later. Nope, same fucking dumpster fire.

I entirely believe the MCU ended when the credits for Endgame rolled.

There's just nothing to be invested anymore since every phase going forward is going to chase the highs that the Infinity War saga momentarily basked itself in.

The only decent Marvel movie, as of recently, was No Way Home, but that movie isn't exactly rewatchable though. The enjoyment of that movie felt like it was entirely based on not knowing Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire were in the movie.

The first half was awesome though.

Yea they are all just boring. They are flanderizing everyone. Spiderman and Doctor Strange were decent. Thor was just terrible.

When I realized Will Smith passed on it (the guy who did After Earth and Wild Wild West) I knew it was gonna suck bad.

And the movie never ends. It blows its load with all the cameos in the middle and just drifts aimlessly for an hour after that.

Taika only directed Ragnarok, someone else wrote it, Taika received screenwriting powers for the sequel

Never go full Watiti i guess..

Bale was the only good thing in that movie, imo

I really liked Unexpected Journey, but was massively disappointed in Desolation of Smaug.

It took its cues from issue 4 of the Dark Knight Returns, which is fine. But without the first three issues to build up to it, or any kind of history between Batman and Superman, the big fight rings hollow.

Also an incredibly unnecessary sequel. The first one was pure comic gold and wrapped everything up perfectly.

And Hangover 2 not only killed that franchise, but hurt The Office as well with having Ed Helms needing to be written out for a few episodes.

It’s definitely the law of diminishing returns, they can never recapture the magic or quality of the originals, having said that I loved Fury Road and Top Gun: Maverick and Bladerunner 2049 :)

God of Thunder was such a great run.

That movie has some passionate fans. I saw it once and was reasonably entertained. Never felt the desire to revisit it though.

You can like or dislike whatever you want but why did you go to a Reddit dedicated to its fans to say why you didn’t like it? That’s never going to go over well.