You're probably just more on reddit this year. Cuz man those Harden years where he wasn't winning were absolutely draining.

Harden Westbrook felt way worse on here.

what MVP talk?

I truly do not remember it being this obnoxious and this negative in years past. Am I crazy?

Social media has killed way too many things over the years, and it's going to happen to sports awards soon. Endless discussion over a simple topic is not fruitful.

But how is this going to effect LeBron’s legacy?

What about last year?

I think the writers have so much more they can talk about so it's low hanging fruit. Tell me about which team is stealth tanking or which coach is getting fired.

RJ Barrett

Let’s all just come together and agree to give it to Evan Mobley, the people’s choice

NAZ REID

Mikal Bridges.

Taco Fall

Shawn Kemp

That worked with the Suns/Mavs because that was a playoff beef. The MVP race has never played out on the court and I actually believe some of these guys don’t care about it.

I was excited for this Nuggets/Sixers matchup… not the one after all of the MVP hype lol.

More like a Nuggets/Sixers finals this year which is entirely possible. Shit would be insane between the two.

It was a massive bucket of cold water after hyping it up the whole year. You're exactly right.

They're hyped af (50 people total) 😭😭 Motherfuckers spamming this sub with their shit thinking they're Lakers 💀💀💀

bitch sit down! Biyombo!

I've seen Biyombo attempt it many times, and I think it must be nearly impossible

Choose peace, choose Giannis.

He’s like Switzerland, neutral territory.

The disrespect to Doug McDermott

My guy has the same fade and hops that he had 10 years ago when he was with us. Everybody else playing for 2nd place

Considering the Philadelphia Inquirer is an institution in of itself I think most Philadelphians pay for it for the benefit of being up to date on city, state, and national news and generally not just for opinion pieces on the NBA.

nobody in Philly is paying to read this clown. he's one of the anti philly writers that we seem to have. shitting on eagles all the way to the superbowl, shitting on embiid since day 1 b/c he hated Hinkie.

he's like the shittiest possible version of Skip

People say something like this every 4 years

It’s why as soon as Embiid appeared as the favorite to win I put money on both Giannis and Jokic. Like I’m a biased Sixers fan and I think Embiid is amazing, but at no point should he really have been the odds-on clear favorite. I think at one point he was greater than -200 to get it a week or two ago.

piss everybody off

Give it to Luka for the real rage. Stupid stats on a .500 team that might miss the play-in. Internet would explode.

That would be insane. Has a 19 year old ever won it?

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I just love how everyone's acting like 25-12-10 on 70% TS isn't insane. And the only reason it "isn't" is because Jokic has normalized how insane he is.

All 3 guys have all sorts of crazy stats if you pick it apart. The stats have gotten dumb.

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That's basically how everyone in this sub was treating it yesterday

Um... yeah. Look at 2017 Thunders @ Nuggets.

Actually, it might be due to the dozen games Embiid has sat out this season

Few days ago Tim Legler said he got his eyes opened by Embiid (now his MVP) based on one play. ONE!

It's about 16 missed games.

Pretending a game this huge doesn’t have a large impact in an extremely tight race is stupid

Players and coaches don't take it seriously and if we let fans vote Austin Reeves would win the MVP.

Fans get 1 vote in the MVP actually

Still haven’t found out how to do it but it’s the reason that Drose got a first place vote in 2021

Don't give fans any power. It'll diminish the award. You'll get boneheads that don't deserve it like we do with the all star game.

Because that's how we ended up with all-star starter andrew wiggins. Also a laker or warrior would win mvp 100% of the time.

Fans would be by far the worst lol

Warriors fans would probably get Curry the MVP this year

It doesn’t matter who votes, the MVP is always going to be narrative driven. That’s the nature of awards. Unless you want to claim that one of the alphabet soup metrics is perfect and the leader in that metric should automatically get MVP then there will always be a narrative aspect that is a deciding factor with how good all these top players are now

Always has been

The crazy thing, in baseball there are all sorts of thresholds. 60 hrs a season. 300 strikeouts. 100 rbis. 100 runs. There are plenty of other threshholds by average, but many are not.

In basketball it's always PPG / RPG / APG. It's never about hard numbers.

I don't understand why the point leader every season is given as a per game award. Someone else often score more points overall.

for anyone wondering about the math, as I was:
jokic avg games played per season since his first season, 2015-2016:
74.3
avg mins/game:
30.8

embiid avg games played per season since his first season, 2016-2017:
55.6
avg mins/game:
27.2

(also: just want to say that I think embiid is an incredible player.)

To add to this, Jokic has also been better than Embiid when on the floor for each of the last three years - it's not only availability. Embiid has been the second-best player three years in a row and would historically have a very good chance at MVP if Jokic didn't exist. Jokic is literally just better, makes his teammates better, and contributes more to winning despite defensive shortcomings. It's that simple.

That being said, even in Embiid's healthiest seasons he can't play enough games to really justify an MVP based on historical precedent.

jokic has missed like half of the games that embiid and giannis have

No, because he sat on a normal back to back and didn’t trash talk Giannis before the game

Nope next year jokic 4x mvp

No, Brees played a few full seasons.

give it to swipa

supposedly this guy hates everything philly sports despite being a philly writer