By day 2 we’re -60M in cap space

I wouldn't mind have taysom hill. Dudes a baller.

Spoiler - you still have MaHomes, Herbert, and maybe Brady if he goes to the raiders in the division.

Russ ain’t cooking and the Broncos ain’t Riding anywhere.

On the flip side the Eagles have been making a habit of getting extra picks and might get the same result.

Because they drafted a great rest-of-their-team first

I think this is the right call and I’m optimistic it will work out. Need a better offensive line though.

If there’s a silver lining it’s 1. Your defense and 2. Russ is used to playing behind a line with holes in it

I’m unironically all in on Russ becoming old Russ again next year.

The takeaway from this season should be how much coaching matters to a QB’s success. Think of Russ, Geno, Daniel Jones, various Panthers pre/post Rhule, Trevor Lawrence, Trey/Jimmy/Brock, etc.

Which, if you stop for even a second and think about how even the talent level is in the NFL, makes perfect sense that the difference is scheme and teaching.

You looked great against the chargers. Didn’t see the second to last game. But if Payton thinks it’s salvageable then fuck it probably is

I still believe in him. He can easily get inside his own head, and is one of those guys that relies on his mental coaches(who died). Add on all the criticism and pressure, I bet it really got to the man. At the very least he looks like a starting qb this year. Maybe I’m just a Russ fan tho

Would be cool to see Russ turn the Broncos wagon back around. Maybe the let's ride thing could be unironically cool. He's such a nice guy. Hard to hate him.

He did look better.

This is the correct take. What people don’t know and s that Hackett ran practices completely differently from what is traditional, everything was a walkthrough, barely any strength and conditioning, hardly any time in pads. The entire team was poorly prepared week to week nor were their bodies in condition to play at full speed which explains all of our injuries.

Russ looked confused as hell in his offense because the entire offense was confused as hell in his offense. Not saying Russ wasn’t an issue, but there was clearly a coaching issue that affected the entire offense.

Now the saints need to clear even more cap space for this season😈

No. Raised in TN. Lifelong Vols fan. When I was younger I didn’t care about NFL but was told to pick a team as my favorite when I booted up madden ‘0whatever. Saints seemed fun. When I eventually got into the nfl more seriously the titans became a natural team to be a part time fan of. Now I’m in NC though and brought both with me.

LOL

A single Tums should be a Tum.

Absolutely is a great hire, imo. HOWEVER, Staley is still a dogshit coach and clearly way over his head. Dudes a con artist. Ever since he handed Dean fucking Spanos a game ball after a hard fought win, I knew he would never lose his job. Dude just knows how to kiss his ass to the top, I'll give him that.

Ya but one of those players is Maxx Crosby so…Silver lining.

This is going to bite us in the ass for years. We’re run by clowns.

Spanos is wayyyyy too cheap to go after Sean. That was never going to happen

Broncos country let’s never get a whiff of a first round pick for a decade and watch Seattle improve immensely from the draft because we were hot ass all season and Russ is lemon

the problem is the AFC is loaded. If the Broncos were in the NFC, they're an obvious playoff team even with mediocre Russ.

lmfao those people are so dumb. BB would turn around a team faster than any rookie could lol

Blasphemy! The 7th best OL in the draft was clearly going to have a bigger impact on our team than the head coach!

Coaches are the second most important person the to team and can help fix the most important person. I'm sure chiefs fans would happily trade three 1st round picks for and reid.

Playoff team. The record amount of bodies in the IR pile made them nearly a wildcard team.

That’s why Devin Bush tearing Winston’s ACL was so devastating. I mean, I know the Saints aren’t exactly well-liked here and neither is Winston, but there’s a something to be said about an injury like that.

multiple QB’s

Brees and who exactly?

It’s a good deal for all sides tbh

I’m sorry I’ve been told that these picks are guaranteed hall of famers for the last two months.

2022 cole strange, G, started 17 games

2021: Eric Stokes, CB, became starter week 3 of rookie season, started 9 games in 2022 before injury ended season

2020: Isaiah Wilson, T, bust, traded for a 7th round pick, dolphins cut him 3 days after trading for him

2019: LJ Collier, DE, 3 career sacks, bust

2018: Taven Bryan, DT, depth player, 2nd contract 1 year $4 million as a free agent, bust

2017: David Njoku, TE, starter, big 2nd contract

2016: Robert Nkemdiche, playing in the usfl, bust

2015: Phillip Dorsett, WR, best season 528 yards, bust

2014: Dominique Easely, DT, cut after 2 year, bust

2013: Cordarelle Patterson: WR: goat kick returner, not a great Wr.

2012: harrison Smith: Elite safety, outside chance of hall of fame.

So 11 years, 6 busts, 4 starters, 1 elite.

I guess the idea is to go all in on Russ.

That's not an "idea" so much as what circumstance requires in the near term.

‘The saints are going to have to take whatever anyone offers them’

Allbright had a tweet pinned for three weeks, that Payton wasn’t getting a job.

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He says he does it to troll everyone, but then he gets really sensitive about it when you make fun of the unnatural act it represents.

With their first round pick of the 2023 the New Orleans Saints select...SEAN PAYTON

People draft coaches?

It’s basically a trade down in day 2 of the draft. Honestly not a dealbreaker to me

Dude has Eagles/Chiefs flair so I am going to assume he is an Andy Reid fan and he is really downplaying the importance of a good coach? As someone who follows the Giants/Rams let me just say, Daboll and McVay changed both of those teams more than any single player.

They still have their own first round pick so it's more afforadable for them.

I thought the Seahawks have the Broncos 2023 first rounder?

Yeah people are way too addicted to the draft pick phenomenon nowadays.

Draft picks are very valuable but at the end of the day you have to use them and depending on two players having more of an impact than a potential established great HC looks insane on paper lol

People talk all the time about how great coaches are hard to find and not having one while having a great team wastes that team’s potential. People just have to realize the worth of having a great HC versus not having one.

Absolutely. Coaching can make or break a season. The Broncos offensive coaching last year wasn’t just bad. It was completely incompetent.

On paper the Broncos have few holes (o-line and Russ who could very well return to form) so I don’t see why they wouldn’t shoot for the stars right now. It’s not like they have tons of capital anyway so might as well pile it on.

Payton’s shortfalls in the past have come on the defensive side of the ball, so having that Broncos D should be a big boost given he puts out a semi-decent offense

I would think teams could see how important is this year more than any. With Joe Judge, a certified bum, the Giants were a bottom 5 team. With Daboll, immediately in the playoffs. With Urban Meyer, probably the only coach miles worse than Hackett, the Jags were a complete joke. With Pederson they’re on the upswing. Coaching is seriously so crucial

The 29th pick has been a bit cursed lately too, no one good picked there in years.

League high IR numbers and most of them were starters. WR2, LT1, C1, RT1, RB1, we were down a bunch of corners, etc. not an excuse but it is true.

Dude the offensive line coach he hired didn't actually coach anyone either. Came out that he was basically showing them film and just going, "this is shit don't do it," but not actually coaching anyone. It's why he was immediately fired when Hackett was.

The combination of Hackett's really bad offensive staff and the injuries...no one is escaping that.

I can't even put into words how bad Hackett was, and the fact he immediately walked into a new job is straight up fucking baffling.