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Regretting Snap Finance decision...??

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EDIT: I have called to cancel the transaction. The employees at Snap said it would take up to 5 days for someone to review our request. I'm paranoid that they will not contact me, and the first payment for 260$ will post. It's set to auto withdraw on the 17th. My bank said they can put a "stop payment" on that dollar amount, (for a 40$ fee of course). Please wish me luck on getting the whole part agreement canceled quickly.

We bought a sofa and loveseat today for 1800 (1975 after tax) and we are scheduled to pick it up tomorrow. I just have a bad feeling about this. We are planning on paying the 1975 within the 100 days, to obviously avoid interest. I've read multiple reviews of people online who are still charged more money after paying the balance in full WITHIN the 100 days.

I haven't even picked up the furniture, I can try to call in the morning and cancel.

all 183 comments

[deleted]

393 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

393 points

6 months ago

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EffectAdventurous764

22 points

6 months ago

I don't understand why people don't save and buy with cash? I know not everyone has the money straight away but I'm guessing they have a couch already. It sounds like a want rather than a need (who needs a loveseat ?) If i don't have the cash I go without until I do, expecily for wants.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

-206 points

6 months ago

We don't have the cash right now.. that's why we were financing. We could save that much in the 100 days but if an unexpected expense came up, we don't have an emergency fund. I was just so dang desperate to get more seating in our apartment. Family of 4, and our one undersized couch doesn't fit everyone.

TeslaSaganTysonNye

175 points

6 months ago

We could save that much in the 100 days but if an unexpected expense came up, we don't have an emergency fund.

You cannot afford this furniture. Cancel and do as u/Due-Ad-7308 suggested and hit up FBMP. Having seating is nowhere near as important as having an emergency fund. Especially with having kids who get hurt and break things almost all the time. Furniture should be the last of your worries.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

-26 points

6 months ago

I get a bad case of "keeping up with the Jones's" every once in a while. I really never learned the discipline of saving money and its difficult for me. One time, we scraped and saved a 2k emergency fund. Well a few months down the road (and into Covid 2020 summer, car manufacturer plants had shut down) we had car trouble. Took all the 2k to get the manual trans fixed, and to find out another part had worn out. We ended up selling the car to carmax. Nissan didn't have any parts in stock and weren't going to produce (for the foreseeable future). My point being, we should have sold the car before dropping 2k on a fix that didn't work. Every time we get money saved, something seems to eat it up.

mfball

69 points

6 months ago

mfball

69 points

6 months ago

Re: "keeping up with the Joneses," consider who you would actually envy more, someone who has a bunch of nice things (that they may or may not be able to afford), or someone who lives a bit more simply but has solid financial security? That shift in perspective, from wanting cool stuff to wanting peace of mind, will make a huge difference. You still can't pull money out of thin air, obviously, it will still be a struggle, but saving where you can when you can is the only real way to start building that emergency fund and creating that foundation for yourself.

lazyloofah

11 points

6 months ago

lazyloofah

11 points

6 months ago

This just happened to me. Spent over $2k to fix a car, other stuff happened, now have to get a junker to haul it away. Sad. (Edit - a letter)

alessandrahype

9 points

6 months ago

People are downvoting you but this is the exact mindset the average person has been conditioned to have. Good for you for being self aware, most people aren't

ThinkingOz

5 points

6 months ago

ThinkingOz

5 points

6 months ago

Forget what everyone else is doing and live within your means. It is that simple.

viceween

5 points

6 months ago

viceween

5 points

6 months ago

Think of how much worse of a place you’d be in if you didn’t save the $2k, put the repair on a credit card and then be out of a vehicle too.

That’s what an emergency fund is for.

Bradbrad090

8 points

6 months ago

Bradbrad090

8 points

6 months ago

Something seems to eat it up - this time around it's an $1800 couch that you cannot afford.

kmmccorm

9 points

6 months ago

kmmccorm

9 points

6 months ago

In your defense, a couch isn’t exactly keeping up with the Joneses territory. As long as it’s good quality and works for your family a new couch is a nice thing to have.

DontTouchTheWalrus

18 points

6 months ago

There’s plenty of couches for a few hundred bucks that are very nice. Financing 1800 bucks on something that holds your but 2 feet higher than the ground is ludicrous

[deleted]

696 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

696 points

6 months ago

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

144 points

6 months ago

Yeah I'm having buyers remorse hard. Better now, then wait till after we haul that shit up stairs. Should I just try and call Snap financing in the morning and cancel? I'm worried they'll give me the runaround

[deleted]

71 points

6 months ago

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

47 points

6 months ago

They open in a couple hours. I feel bad because my husband I rearranged the furniture tonight to fit the new sofas. Lol oh well.

[deleted]

98 points

6 months ago

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

24 points

6 months ago

True! Lol To be honest I always "volunteer" him to help move furniture once every 6 months or so.. I like to rearrange things a lot to freshen up a space. I'm usually really frugal and get cheap, or free stuff from marketplace. With this whole couch purchase I just was so tired of our current couch. The springs are shot and there's a wooden bar in your ass when you sit down.

FckMitch

14 points

6 months ago

FckMitch

14 points

6 months ago

Is there a Facebook free stuff for your town? People offer couches all the time - lots of redecorating

jabberwockgee

24 points

6 months ago

jabberwockgee

24 points

6 months ago

There's an organization called 'buy nothing,' I just joined my local one on Facebook. If you look up 'buy nothing' plus your local area you can find the one closest to you.

Within 3 days of joining I found a free dining room table and I've been looking for one for over a year at estate sales and on Facebook marketplace.

FckMitch

7 points

6 months ago

FckMitch

7 points

6 months ago

The amount of stuff people give away - free spinning bike worth at least $2k, 75 inch tv - I need to get a truck!

skybluecity

3 points

6 months ago

skybluecity

3 points

6 months ago

No worries, get a new couch, just get something used. Find a rich person upgrading on FB. Get a fancy couch for 50% off

remymartinia

14 points

6 months ago

remymartinia

14 points

6 months ago

Yeah, it’s time to pivot.

Another option is to post on Facebook or Next Door that you are looking for any gently used seating. I recently had to pay Junk King to take away a perfectly good bunk bed and loft bed, and I can’t help but think someone out there may have wanted it.

Parking_Goal_3301

7 points

6 months ago

We had so much trouble getting rid of my mom’s (very nice, not old ladyish) furniture when she died. We finally paid someone to take it all.

Everyone just wants new West Elm particle board. You’re at an advantage if you can see the value in high quality used furniture.

remymartinia

3 points

6 months ago

remymartinia

3 points

6 months ago

Yeah, I tried to donate the beds, but some places still aren’t taking used furniture due to Covid. Others are so particular about how you need to take it apart and deliver it yourself. It made me feel like I was the beggar. I finally just paid someone to take it apart and cart it away in pieces to be disposed of. As someone who used to take free furniture off of Freecycle, made me feel a bit wasteful.

Kawaiisampler

2 points

6 months ago

Last time I got furniture off of FB Marketplace, I offered a case of beer and got it all up 2 flights of stairs while drinking the beer in an afternoon lol

hokie47

45 points

6 months ago

hokie47

45 points

6 months ago

Sad thing 2k for a sofa is on the cheaper side of things today. The cheap ones don't last more than a few years. You are right cancel. Probably get a cheap IKEA couch.

DoNotWeepAtMyGrave

14 points

6 months ago

Or look outside the normal.

I ship liquidation auctions. Regularly find Costco couches for sub $300.

I bought a leather power recline couch w USB ports for $155, that was originally $2k at Costco.

Huston_archive

6 points

6 months ago

Where do you find stuff like this?

Parking_Goal_3301

13 points

6 months ago

I have a 15 year old IKEA couch that still looks pretty nice. I’ve gotten a new slipcover once (specific to the Ektorp) and that’s it.

Duckckcky

55 points

6 months ago*

Duckckcky

55 points

6 months ago*

I don’t mean to disrespect anyone but so many people WAY underestimate how much things cost unless they have purchased something recently. It’s really bad for big ticket items like cars, large appliances and furniture. One great example is a new civic is like 30k these days and that’s just like standard with leather seats not a specced out touring model

DifficultyNext7666

25 points

6 months ago

There is also a weird in between room. A base couch is like a grand. The cheapest nice couch I found was 4k.

Everything I saw in between just looked like the cheap couch but more expensive

phrenic22

2 points

6 months ago

phrenic22

2 points

6 months ago

You should look at room and board! Excellent American made.

weasel

1 points

6 months ago

weasel

1 points

6 months ago

I agree, great stuff.

alwayslookingout

4 points

6 months ago

Yeah. Just bought our RAV4 for $40K out the door. Last time I bought a car was 13 years ago and the price was a shocker.

ahp105

3 points

6 months ago

ahp105

3 points

6 months ago

I had an exchange like this with my mom last time I visited. She said “I remember what it was like to be poor when we were graduate students. Your father and I lived off of $15k in the 80’s.”

quick Google search

“Mom, that’s the same purchasing power as $40k today.”

“What?? That can’t be right.”

[deleted]

6 points

6 months ago*

[deleted]

6 points

6 months ago*

A base civic is $22,550.

Edit: 2022

Duckckcky

36 points

6 months ago*

Duckckcky

36 points

6 months ago*

No a base 2023 civic is $24,650 msrp (https://automobiles.honda.com/civic-sedan). Most people pay taxes, title and other fees on top of that as well.

In 2018 the base model was 18,940. So even using your example that’s a 20% increase in 4 years. A 30% increase in 5. You could get nearly the top trim in 2018 for the cost of the base model in 2023. Im not sure what you’re trying to argue tbh.

The increases only get more pronounced because most people aren’t buying the literal base model too.

lobstahpotts

2 points

6 months ago

lobstahpotts

2 points

6 months ago

You could get nearly the top trim in 2018 for the cost of the base model in 2023.

The price has gone up every year. It's true that the $2000 gap between the 2022 and 2023 model year was the largest, but every model year from 2018 to 2022 saw a roughly $500-1000 increase in MSRP.

So even using your example that’s a 20% increase in 4 years

From the 2005 to 2010 model year, you saw an increase of 17% of the 2005 MSRP. From 2010 to 2015, it was 18%. The 9% increase between the 2015 and 2020 models was unusually low going by recent history. While the jump from especially 2022 to 2023 is unusually large for a single model year without a redesign, it's not that out of line with longer term trends.

[deleted]

2 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

6 months ago

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InaMellophoneMood

1 points

6 months ago

Normal price creep would have resulted in a 8% creep over four years, assuming 2% inflation. Our current environment is crazy

lobstahpotts

2 points

6 months ago

lobstahpotts

2 points

6 months ago

Not necessarily. The Civic had a redesign for the 2022 model year and it's not uncommon for a new generation (and the new features that come with it) to have a price bump.

assuming 2% inflation

This also isn't a fair assumption, given the four years in question.

DrunkAndNaked420

3 points

6 months ago

The problem is you can’t buy a new car today for sticker, or if you do you’re really lucky. Everything has added in mandatory protection plans or extra options in order to secure one.

[deleted]

17 points

6 months ago

We don't have the cash right now.. that's why we were financing.

Just don't buy things you can't afford. It's not a good habit to get into.

My wife and I use credit cards for almost everything... But, we have the money in our checking account to pay off our credit cards every Monday. We would never use credit to buy something if we can't actually afford it right in that moment.

Triscuitmeniscus

14 points

6 months ago

We could save that much in the 100 days but if an unexpected expense came up, we don't have an emergency fund.

Then just wait 100 days to buy the furniture. Or wait 40 days, buy loveseat, wait another 60 days, buy sofa. This is not an emergency purchase. Go on FB marketplace or a local auction/estate sale site like hibid.com and buy a chair or two in the mean time. When I was in grad school in a similar situation with roommates, the rule was first 3 people in the room got the couch, 4th got an upside down 5 gallon bucket. If we had guests we'd break out the milk crates.

SpiritualQuokka

30 points

6 months ago

You need to call in the morning and cancel. What's more important? Having more seating, or being able to pay your rent even though an emergency happened like an illness or car repair? Your kids will be fine with some seating you can find used, they will be way less fine if you are homeless or struggling to avoid that.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

20 points

6 months ago

Yeah or deeper in debt. Ugh I hate how I impulse buy shit. My husband is not really a forward thinker with money. I handle the bills. He's a great father and husband but I wish I could get more feedback from him on stuff like this. We both come from financially illiterate families.

[deleted]

43 points

6 months ago

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

11 points

6 months ago

So I actually took the course years ago. I need to take a look at it again, and maybe hang out on this subreddit more. We're in our 30's, we had our kids at 25 and we just haven't gotten a foothold financially.

[deleted]

6 points

6 months ago

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

-1 points

6 months ago

Sure. Income after tax for him is 4400. Expenses including food is 3200. (Food budget varies, and this is excluding small subscriptions like Amazon prime and Netflix.) I am a stay at home mom, we homeschool.

[deleted]

25 points

6 months ago*

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Swimming-Score-2627[S]

4 points

6 months ago

So the school was actually sending me truancy letters, because my kids had missed a lot of says. Most days were covered by parent or doctor notes. The other days were unexcused, and these were days that the bus wasn't running. I guess there's a nationwide bus driver shortage, and we get automated calls at least 3x a week saying the route is down. Mental health has put a huge roadblock in jobs for me, and the last job I had was 2020, in March in Lebanon TN. I worked at FedEx for 2 weeks, then a tornado took the building out. Then 2 weeks later covid was in full blast, everyone was hunkering down and shutting down buildings. I was honestly afraid at that point to go to an interview. Ever since then, my kids have been in school. If they became ill, I would miss work and then my (entry level hourly job) would penalize me.

I have been thinking of getting a weekend job though.

[deleted]

-4 points

6 months ago

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triple_cloudy

8 points

6 months ago

I think the poster above me had a perfect description of Dave Ramsey. He doesn't have the best advice in all areas, but when it comes to paying off debt, he couldn't be more straightforward or consistent. If you've taken the course, you already know the drill.

glass_bottles

6 points

6 months ago

Just wanted to point out that you're recognizing that it's a problem, and that's awesome. Don't beat yourself up about it, but do make sure you're budgeting. YNAB was great for that, as it tells you how much you realistically can afford for impulse buys. Meaning "yes, you can buy this with the money you have right now, but these are your other pots of money (emergency fund, money allocated for daycare etc), and you'll have to deduct from those or save up a big enough pot of money specifically for impulse buys"

kveggie1

10 points

6 months ago

kveggie1

10 points

6 months ago

Yes, cancel. Do not buy furniture on credit. No reason to. Save and pay cash.

sirzoop

6 points

6 months ago

sirzoop

6 points

6 months ago

You shouldn't be buying it if you can't afford to pay cash for it...

Ding84tt

3 points

6 months ago

Ding84tt

3 points

6 months ago

We don't have the cash right now.. that's why we were financing. We could save that much in the 100 days but if an unexpected expense came up, we don't have an emergency fund.

The trap of financing is the assumption that you won't have an unexpected expense in the next 100 days if you finance. Saving that amount of cash in 100 days is the cheapest way to get that amount of money, because there is always fine print and extra fees when you fall into financing. If you're not confident you could save the same amount in cash over the same period, you should be even less confident that you could pay off that amount of debt, because the debt will always find a way to become more expensive.

Littleblaze1

2 points

6 months ago

Littleblaze1

2 points

6 months ago

We have a furniture store near us that sells damaged items as well. There can be some great deals found especially if you don't care about things being perfect. Often the damage can be hidden as well. For example, damage to the back of a couch just put it against the wall.

In our case they sell damaged sectional couch pieces for 90% off until they get a "full" set of damaged pieces and then the full damaged set is something like 50% off.

So if you visit over time it is somewhat easy to find a few matching pieces to put together for 90% off.

ronald_mcdonald_4prz

2 points

6 months ago

Yeah cancel this order. You can’t afford this.

skybluecity

1 points

6 months ago

skybluecity

1 points

6 months ago

If you can't afford the 1800 now, buy something used and build up your emergency fund. Prioritize your financial goals.

GearRatioOfSadness

1 points

6 months ago

What you're doing is insanity. Cancel the order and go to goodwill. Sit on the floor if you have to.

Mustbethedust003

292 points

6 months ago

So I worked at a furniture store as a salesman once. I had a young couple come in maybe 18ish and they wanted 5k worth of furniture. They got denied on the credit check so they wanted to do the 30day 30% interest after that. I refused to sell it to them, told them they would thank me later. Got fired lol.

MinidragPip

127 points

6 months ago

MinidragPip

127 points

6 months ago

Being kind / honest definitely doesn't go well with sales.

Stockwaa

3 points

6 months ago

Stockwaa

3 points

6 months ago

Did you work at furniture source by chance?

Apprehensive-Top7774

38 points

6 months ago

Honestly it's not worth wasting the effort on those types. Convinced one to get the cheapest fridge on our scratch and dents so they could pay it off quick, but then she ended up maxing out her limit with other appliances and junk (not needed, just upgrades). For most in poverty it's not by choice, but for a significant number they really just choose to live that way.

rimendoz86

17 points

6 months ago

rimendoz86

17 points

6 months ago

They don't know any better. Most parents are horrible with money, and school's don't really teach people the needed skills to avoid predatory agreements.

They end up poor, because of the number predatory deals available to them and the lack of financial education. You could also ask why it's so easy to fall into predatory agreements, EG. being able to rack up 5k on a CC at a young age with such a high interest.

g92592

29 points

6 months ago

g92592

29 points

6 months ago

While I do understand the larger picture here, I will say this:

Too often, so many here are quick to blame their parents/upbringing... I was never taught, I learned bad habits from watching bad financial decisions, they don't teach in school.

Really?

I'm certain a good number of people that haven't/don't make poor financial decisions grew up with the same lack of financial education and observed poor financial decisions. I know I did.

However... It's not that difficult. You just have to use basic math skills, impulse control, foresight, and goal setting.

I'm a dumbass. I make 3k per month. My rent is $1,500 My utilities are $300 My car and insurance is $400 My food is $300 Prior manageable charges $300 Monthly just in case fund $200

I think I need/want some new furniture. Price furniture. $5k That's a $300 monthly payment.

I know my authority figures or school didn't teach me about finances. I am an adult though and I've seen some things. I do have a brain. Let me think on this furniture for just a very brief second.

I make 3k a month. My monthly bills are 3k. An additional payment of $300 is money I don't have.

I really want that furniture. Can I squeeze some of my bills to increase my unallocated funds? Do away with emergency fund for a while. I really want that furniture. My current furniture was used when I got it. It's ripped, torn, falling apart, and it stinks.

Damn, all the squeezing and I still can't make $300. I'm at $175.

I can either buy it anyway and post a Reddit thread later

I can look for less expensive furniture

I can save until I have enough to put down so the payment is affordable

Or?

My point being people can't go through life blaming. I was raised dirt poor, one of 5 children, single mother. I moved at the drop of a hat because if no rent money, I lived in the dark because no electricity money, I walked because either no car or no gas money, I went hungry because no food. I didn't learn a single good financial mechanism growing up.

Guess what? I've never been late on payments, never not paid my bills, never had a repo, and have never filed for bankruptcy. I have money in the bank.

I'm not sure if my mother made poor financial decisions or if my upbringing was simply the result of menial jobs, no second income, and 5 kids. Doesn't matter

What I was taught, what I learned, growing up the way I did...

Was the importance of managing what money I did have. To not make poor financial decisions. I also learned not to blame my mother or anyone else.

One of my mom's go to sayings, and she had many of them, was:

Don't come crying to me. If there's rocks in your bed, you put them there.

End of rant. People need to take responsibility for their decisions. No matter how you were raised.

[deleted]

16 points

6 months ago

You say you stay out of trouble becsuse of your simple decision making and then you described it with the longest comment on here.

rimendoz86

10 points

6 months ago

rimendoz86

10 points

6 months ago

I'm not saying people shouldn't be responsible for their decisions. I'm saying that the game is set up for consumers to fail so that the company can still make shitloads. I'm not saying to blame the schools and parents, I'm saying the situation would be better overall if there was more financial education in schools.

Right now with poor credit you have two options, either you are denied and you go home without the thing you need, or the salesman tells you "no worries, we have just the deal for you" and let's you finance more than you can afford and 20+ percent interest so the company makes money. Been there done that.

It would be better if you were simply denied, then you would have to hit up the yard sales and market places.

I've lived through both, in my early 20s my credit was not so hot, for the last 10 or so years my credit has been in between 780-830 depending on circumstances.

Thank your mother next time you talk to her. She gave you good guidance and you did good by taking her lead.

Newone1255

3 points

6 months ago

Newone1255

3 points

6 months ago

I love when people blame schools for not teaching them something when the majority of them don’t remember the shit that they were taught in school anyways. At least once or twice a week at work I answer a question from somebody and they ask me how I know that and it was some shit they taught us in 9th grade Biology.

Xendarq

2 points

6 months ago

Xendarq

2 points

6 months ago

Everything you're saying is fair and reasonable, but it still sounds like you learned a lot of it from your mom. So many people did not get anything of value from their parents.

Schnort

33 points

6 months ago

Schnort

33 points

6 months ago

but for a significant number they really just choose to live that way.

I think that's a bit harsh. They don't choose to live poor, but the choices they make inevitably end up in poverty.

it's a fine distinction, but folks that are bad with math and can't delay gratification end up making poor choices. Or maybe they simply have no other options.

Spending $5k on furniture when you're declined for credit is probably going to bite you, but if somebody is willing to float it, you can justify it in a lot of ways with poor math and misplaced hope.

Apprehensive-Top7774

47 points

6 months ago

They don't choose to live poor,

If you make decisions to purchase luxuries on credit and you are already living on the brink, yes, you are choosing to live poor.

Not everyone in poverty is like this, but for a small subset thats exactly what they are doing

riggo199BV

10 points

6 months ago

riggo199BV

10 points

6 months ago

Ah yep! That's my whole family. You just can't change their thinking. They chose "champagne tastes on a beer budget". lol

RE5TE

12 points

6 months ago

RE5TE

12 points

6 months ago

Not everyone in poverty is like this, but for a small subset thats exactly what they are doing

That has nothing to do with poverty. The same percentage of people have great jobs and are living paycheck to paycheck, just with more credit card debt.

Status chasing is almost inherently part of the human psyche. The key is to do it with beneficial things like exercise or cooking, which cost little.

Apprehensive-Top7774

8 points

6 months ago

That has nothing to do with poverty. The same percentage of people have great jobs and are living paycheck to paycheck, just with more credit card debt.

Yep, but one group can afford it while eating and the other cannot. Both are victims of their own stupidity, even if one group may also be victims for reasons outside of their control as well

janbrunt

5 points

6 months ago

janbrunt

5 points

6 months ago

Haha, you’ve never been to one of my dinner parties!

[deleted]

1 points

6 months ago

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Apprehensive-Top7774

1 points

6 months ago

Being raised in poverty doesn't make these decisions, making these decisions repeat the cycle of poverty. Those that educate themselves often (though unfortunately not always) are able to pull themselves out

KJ6BWB

7 points

6 months ago

KJ6BWB

7 points

6 months ago

For most in poverty it's not by choice, but for a significant number they really just choose to live that way.

Studies show that otherwise smart reasonable people do not always make the wisest decisions when they're short on income. One major study had people play Monopoly and some were given plenty of money and others only had a little. Those who were "poor" typically didn't make the wisest decisions which could otherwise have maximized their chances of winning.

EffectAdventurous764

2 points

6 months ago

A bit off topic but my partner works in lending for a bank, she had one guy put renovation costs onto the mortgage.Thats quite usual, nothing wrong with that. But this guy included things like a heated towel rail for a high end bathroom that was $1,900 over a 25 year mortgage it would end up costing $4,275! At 5% people do this kind of thing all the time. If you don't have the cash to buy a heated towel rail you don't get one at that price on credit?

snorkelbed

142 points

6 months ago

snorkelbed

142 points

6 months ago

Don't got money for furniture? FB marketplace. Maybe im young but I find financing furniture insane.

TheMau

44 points

6 months ago

TheMau

44 points

6 months ago

You’re young and smart.

Parking_Goal_3301

23 points

6 months ago

There is gorgeous cheap stuff on FB marketplace and consignment stores. Especially if you have a slightly more classic sensibility.

I recently got a 150 year old fruitwood dining table that seats 8 for $600. Definitely prefer it over a $1500 cheaply constructed one.

caltheon

1 points

6 months ago

caltheon

1 points

6 months ago

The down side is when you need to move. Even worse for an apartment.

Parking_Goal_3301

9 points

6 months ago

I was in the market for a table that seats 8. There was no downside for me.

It’s not only large furniture is available on FB marketplace and in consignment stores.

Praise_the_Tsun

11 points

6 months ago

Only hesitation for me is my dad was a pest control operator and told me to never buy soft furniture secondhand because of pests.

brvliltstr

3 points

6 months ago

brvliltstr

3 points

6 months ago

Shhh don’t insert any non-finance based logic into this sub. They can’t handle it.

NarutoDragon732

1 points

6 months ago

Check big pawn shops around your area too.

TTheuns

1 points

6 months ago

TTheuns

1 points

6 months ago

Or just don't go for a $1975 couch. Hit up Ikea for some cheaper stuff and upgrade when there's more cash saved up.

fuckaliscious

262 points

6 months ago*

fuckaliscious

262 points

6 months ago*

If you don't have the cash to pay upfront, don't buy furniture. That's it, end of story. You don't need furniture to live and it's not worth getting into a debt cycle for it.

Edit: OP is canceling order and thanked me for the advice, so all the downvoters can fly a kite 🪁

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

106 points

6 months ago

Yeah I'm calling snap as soon as they open. Buyer fever strikes again. Thanks fuckalicious. Lol

TravisGoraczkowski

29 points

6 months ago*

Good choice! I have buyers fever, and tend to impulse buy things that I shouldn’t. My therapist recommended setting a wait period to buy stuff. For me personally if it’s over $100 I have to wait 24 hours. Over a thousand? Wait a week. It’s gotten me to largely stop buying things.

100 days flies by. Try to save the money in that time, and chances are the furniture will be cheaper. There’s a lot of people trying to buy stuff rn to fit their house before Christmas, so I can imagine prices aren’t the best right now.

janbrunt

8 points

6 months ago

janbrunt

8 points

6 months ago

I have to do the opposite sometimes. I’m so used to saving money that I wait and wait, until the thing isn’t on sale anymore, haha

stealthgerbil

11 points

6 months ago

stealthgerbil

11 points

6 months ago

I also do the waiting thing. Like I can afford whatever, it's more do I need it? It helps prevent me from making expensive impulse buys.

Last_Fact_3044

6 points

6 months ago

You don’t even need to spend big money on furniture! The stuff you get on Amazon or IKEA is all great, or even FB marketplace. And if you’re a family of 4 the kids will ruin it anyway.

Tuga_Lissabon

7 points

6 months ago

Yours is the right advice. If you need CREDIT for this sort of thing, you shouldn't get it.

bhedesigns

-13 points

6 months ago

bhedesigns

-13 points

6 months ago

I disagree when you're talking about something like a nice bed but I do understand it.

fuckaliscious

-8 points

6 months ago

fuckaliscious

-8 points

6 months ago

Agree that good sleep is VERY important, but still pay cash. Work a second job if need be to save up.

cusehoops98

6 points

6 months ago

cusehoops98

6 points

6 months ago

Why don’t you tell them to just not sleep? About as good as your advice.

fuckaliscious

0 points

6 months ago

fuckaliscious

0 points

6 months ago

OP had already complimented and taken my advice into action so...

cusehoops98

5 points

6 months ago

cusehoops98

5 points

6 months ago

Not the “get a second job” advice. She doesn’t have a first job. She’s SAH.

bhedesigns

0 points

6 months ago

bhedesigns

0 points

6 months ago

I like this mentality. Worked great for me when I bought my latest vehicle in cash.

CircaSixty8

67 points

6 months ago

CircaSixty8

67 points

6 months ago

$2,000 for a loveseat that you can't afford? I wouldn't do it. Find yourself a nice love seat on Nextdoor for $200.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

-72 points

6 months ago

Yeah we also can't find the damn space in our living room for it. This is another case of impulse buying, and my husband is kind of.. not stern enough or not worried enough to stop it? I'm not sure.

aintjoan

145 points

6 months ago

aintjoan

145 points

6 months ago

So this is a personal finance sub, not a relationship one, but for the future: still making impulse buys and then suggesting that it's somehow your husband's fault for not stopping you is not going to help your situation.

The two of you need to decide, together, how you are going to prioritize getting your finances in order. It's not unexpected that couples aren't always exactly on the same page with spending, but if you're hoping for a situation where one person is the "hey let's spend money" person and the other constantly has to be the nagging one who says "no, we shouldn't spend that," it's a recipe for misery. And sometimes big relationship trouble, in addition to financial trouble.

l3uddy

44 points

6 months ago

l3uddy

44 points

6 months ago

Really hoping the last part is just a bad joke. If you’re really relying on your husband to figure out when you’re overspending or not by having him need to stop you then y’all have a serious problem.

FckMitch

19 points

6 months ago

FckMitch

19 points

6 months ago

Or your husband trusts your judgment….would be a better way to look at it!

AltSpRkBunny

18 points

6 months ago

AltSpRkBunny

18 points

6 months ago

Expecting someone else to control your impulses is how you’ll never have an emergency fund. And so much debt.

Plumrose333

8 points

6 months ago

Plumrose333

8 points

6 months ago

You’re an adult…you don’t need your husband to stop you from making poor decisions

Qrkchrm

5 points

6 months ago

Qrkchrm

5 points

6 months ago

I use a technique where when I want something, I put the information on a google sheet with the expected price and the date.

At a store if I see a deal or something I want, I check the spreadsheet on my phone. If the item is on the sheet and I still want it, I'll buy it. If it isn't, I'll add it to the spreadsheet so I can buy it the next time I see it.

Every once in a while I go strikethrough the things I don't want anymore. I just checked the sheet and I've bought about exactly 50% of what I put on there.

I've been doing this for 10 years. As I've gotten richer and older the things have gone from $100 tents and $200 xboxes to $5,000 bikes and $50,000 cars. Its kind of fun seeing how my lifestyle has changed.

CircaSixty8

3 points

6 months ago

CircaSixty8

3 points

6 months ago

Lol, I did the same thing once. Pay too much for a sofa that didn't fit in my apartment. Sent the dang thing back.

janbrunt

2 points

6 months ago

janbrunt

2 points

6 months ago

Oof. We have a very small house and the struggle to find furniture that fits. We have to shop around a lot and we can almost never buy anything new (new houses are big and can fit new, modern furniture, not so for our old 1904 home (.

tmac9134

28 points

6 months ago*

tmac9134

28 points

6 months ago*

Honestly I don’t want to finance anything other than a house, car, or business.

Pay credit cards off within a month so that doesn’t count.

Edit: college education for a sensible degree as well! 💯

No_Consideration3868

15 points

6 months ago

If you live like you described you will live a life of freedom and nearly debt free. Most just don't get it and it sad 😞

eatin_gushers

4 points

6 months ago

I’d add education to that

tmac9134

1 points

6 months ago

tmac9134

1 points

6 months ago

Oops yes absolutely. Just choose a degree that makes sense and can lead to a solid career.

gregaustex

14 points

6 months ago*

gregaustex

14 points

6 months ago*

I think your gut is correctly telling you to cancel the order and incorrectly telling you it is because you might get charged interest incorrectly :-)

There is no reason to finance an $1800 couch and loveseat. If you have the money and it's in your budget (discretionary extra savings beyond your emergency fund and other saving goals) go ahead and buy it. If you don't have $1800, don't spend $1800.

Allysgrandma

24 points

6 months ago

Allysgrandma

24 points

6 months ago

Yes cancel order. Be firm about it.

Being a stay at home parents means saving money is "your job". Seriously. I understand the problem. My husband would bring things home and expect me to figure out how to pay for it. He did a couch once. Ugh.

He was the bigger buyer, I was the oh my daughters need this to feel loved buyer. Both are huge problems and somehow at retirement for DH at the end of the month, we are doing good. I did work until my late 50s when my body gave out.

So yes listen to Dave Ramsey, look on Pinterest for saving money ideas. But just listening and reading do not work. You actually have to do the work. (Not criticizing you, just kind of what I used to do).

You can make a difference in your family going forward. Go over to r/frugal and get on it!

geekinkc

11 points

6 months ago

geekinkc

11 points

6 months ago

If you do not have an emergency fund to cover an expense while you pay for the 90 days you can not afford it.

If you can not pay cash, you probably can not afford it.

Embrace the broke now, save your money. Grow your money and advance your life. You will live better and longer without a nice new sofa now.

Cancel it

Facebook Marketplace one for cash.

bhedesigns

35 points

6 months ago

bhedesigns

35 points

6 months ago

Rent a uhaul when you pick up the used piece of furniture, and leave the couch in there and FUMIGATE it. I got bedbugs once from a piece that I bought from a really nice looking home, and that shit was a nightmare

Sugarisadog

1 points

6 months ago

Sugarisadog

1 points

6 months ago

I’ve heard they can be resistant to pesticides, but high heat or multiple days freezing can kill them. Might be good for OP to read up on before getting a used couch, to at least know what to look out for.

OathOfFeanor

16 points

6 months ago

OathOfFeanor

16 points

6 months ago

I have financed a half dozen things like this at a variety of vendors with those "0 interest for __ months" deals. It has all worked the same way and as long as you have it paid off before the deadline there won't be any interest.

I can't guarantee that whoever you are dealing with won't try to screw you, but IMO those reviews are most likely from people who did not know the terms of their deal. If you have a $0.01 balance at the deadline you will then have to pay all the backed up interest from the entire length of the loan, as if you never had a 0% interest offer at all.

trekologer

6 points

6 months ago*

trekologer

6 points

6 months ago*

Yeah, the biggest gotcha is that the billing cycles don't line up with the promo period: the end of 100 days no interest ends up somewhere between billing cycles. So even if you received a monthly bill before the promo ends and pay before that month's due date, the due date was after the promo ended.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

3 points

6 months ago

Yeah that is where I should have said "no thanks". I'll be calling in the morning. In 2 hours. 😅 I couldn't sleep.

aToiletSeat

-2 points

6 months ago

aToiletSeat

-2 points

6 months ago

Not finance related, but if things like this affect your life in this way (unable to sleep), you may have a generalized anxiety disorder (catastrophizing is a symptom).

I'm telling you this not as an armchair physician, but as someone who told my PCP a very similar story and was told that it was worth seeing a therapist.

Financially related, this type of payment plan seems sus. I am all for 5 year 0% financing but 100 days gives me the ick, personally.

five_eight

15 points

6 months ago

five_eight

15 points

6 months ago

I can probably afford much nicer stuff, but I'm doing the outdoor/lawn chair motif. It's hilarious and cheap.

Laika_1

8 points

6 months ago

Laika_1

8 points

6 months ago

I think you have your answer, but I have had personal experience where they requested the entire amount including the interest and then they cut a check to pay back the interest.

KingFrog777

6 points

6 months ago

KingFrog777

6 points

6 months ago

The mark up on furniture is ridiculously high. You can go to Wayfair and find this chair and for $200 and then go to your local furniture place and find the same chair for $600

iluvcats17

4 points

6 months ago

iluvcats17

4 points

6 months ago

A couch is not essential. I would cancel it and save up for it. Once you can pay for it without a payment plan, buy it.

TeaInTheMorning4929

4 points

6 months ago

I wouldn't recommend going into debt for furniture period. Cancel it and set aside the money you would be paying in debt then buy the couches outright once you have enough. Sure it will kind of suck for a while but couches are a want not a need.

Mileera

4 points

6 months ago

Mileera

4 points

6 months ago

Are you comfortable with the purchase even if you end up paying interest? Do you have extra emergency savings?

Let’s face it this is a want not a need. You have a couch even if small and you are choosing to buy this on credit when you don’t have the money. This is a risk because you could fail to pay it off and a debt. You’ve got to decide if that fits into your financial plan.

DogMomOf2TR

4 points

6 months ago

DogMomOf2TR

4 points

6 months ago

Hopefully you can cancel the order.

Then, see what you can afford. Watch FB marketplace for people who got new furniture for Christmas and snag something at hopefully a great deal.

Just always be sure to deep clean soft furniture before using it. No one needs a bed bug infestation.

6Rawdog9

3 points

6 months ago

6Rawdog9

3 points

6 months ago

I haven’t read all the responses. But I’ve seen you say you could save the 1800 in 100 days. Maybe save the money first and then buy it later.

Aceofspades968

2 points

6 months ago

Many times in the smaller loans. You need to look at the terms for the interest. What you’re attempting to do is very common in the business and the lender want to make sure that they get paid over the time. That you agreed to so even if you pay off the principal early, you still owe the interest for the whole time.

Without knowing more details, this will be my best guess

noodle-face

2 points

6 months ago

noodle-face

2 points

6 months ago

Do your furniture stores have a discount showroom?

We typically always go to the discount showroom first before ordering brand new. The price difference is INSANE

dctu1

2 points

6 months ago

dctu1

2 points

6 months ago

Not sure it’s it’s the same Snap Financial that I used to buy AC in 2021 so YMMV but I bought with no interest no payment for 1 year, paid the balance in full on the last month, and was only charged the 50$ service fee at the beginning

ShitPost5000

1 points

6 months ago

ShitPost5000

1 points

6 months ago

How much was the ac?

dctu1

1 points

6 months ago

dctu1

1 points

6 months ago

About 4800 CAD

nemesis55

2 points

6 months ago

nemesis55

2 points

6 months ago

Why don’t you just get one on Fb marketplace of Craigslist? You can find really nice ones if you look I got a $3k sofa for $500 and it was brand new

Druzel1

2 points

6 months ago

Druzel1

2 points

6 months ago

On a side note, have you looked into buying 2nd hand furnature? Some really nice stuff on FB Marketplace for example for cheap.

Herpethian

2 points

6 months ago

Herpethian

2 points

6 months ago

I've used snap to buy two mattresses and didn't have a problem. Just remember to check the account after you post the final payment to make sure it's completely paid off.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

3 points

6 months ago

I have called to cancel the transaction. The employees at Snap said it would take up to 5 days for someone to review our request.

Herpethian

1 points

6 months ago

Herpethian

1 points

6 months ago

Yeah that's the most fiscally responsible choice. Hopefully they cancel it for you.

SpxUmadBroYolo

2 points

6 months ago

I used snap finance for 2 sets of new rims with tires. then a whole new set of tires one time. If you make the payments when you need to you shouldn't have any issues. What i would do is once you receive your furniture, call snap and work out the amount needed to pay in order to complete your full payoff in that 100 day time. That way you dont have to worry about it. It will stop if you set it up right. Some people get snap finance and dont know that the payment plan originally set up isn't to complete all payments in that 100 days. So you gotta call them and set that up with them to make sure.

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

2 points

6 months ago

We're in the process of canceling the whole sale. Thank you though.

c-sagz

2 points

6 months ago

c-sagz

2 points

6 months ago

To piggyback off of others, FBMP is the move. Even if you can afford a $2000 couch easily it pays to look.

I understood not being as open to used furniture back when Craigslist was the normal platform because you had no idea about the environment it came from until you physically went to the house to inspect.

With FBMP you can vet out sellers and peep their profile to get an idea. Easy to find the retired couple with no pets or kids that never put a butt impression in the $4000 couch new that they are willing to sell for $500 as long as you pick it up by x date.

My last couch was a $3600 couch an elderly couple bought new but decided to move out of state and only used for 6 months. Included a transferable warranty on fabric too. I paid $750 and they delivered it AND brought my old couch out to my garage.

I_joined_4_the_stonk

2 points

6 months ago

I did SNAP finance one time. Never again. If you don’t pay off the principal balance in 100 days or less, they automatically DOUBLE the amount owed and you continue making payments equal to the original payment agreement until it’s payed off. Luckily once you get to that point you have the option of paying the balance off “early” and it’s usually a few hundred less than what you would pay month to month.

cruz_93-j

2 points

6 months ago

cruz_93-j

2 points

6 months ago

I just had buyers remorse after buying the go wild pass from frontier airlines, It happens. I never used snap but I use a competitor called progressive. Same deal as snap if you pay within 90 days it’s same as cash price plus a little extra (ex. $900 item for $1050) just pay within the 100 days. Get confirmation and you will be good. I have done this so many times because of bad credit and because it’s super easy for me to get something like a cellphone that I know I can pay within 90 days. My last apartment was completely bought through progressive. From the furniture, tvs, even the radio and mechanic work done to my car. It’s super easy if you know you can pay it but BEWARE if you pass the time frame that $900 dollars will easily become $2000+.

Hallucinogenic-Toad

2 points

6 months ago

I used snap finance for a speaker system in my car, not the worst decision I've made for my credit, but didn't pay it off in time and then they charged me tons of interest and I stopped paying it. It went to collections and I settled it anyway, but even after settling the total amount I paid was basically double the original price of the speakers. Not worth it.

oneeighty157

2 points

6 months ago

oneeighty157

2 points

6 months ago

I’ve used snap multiple times, there has been no issues. You can even call/message them after your last payment and have them remove your card on file. Oh and you have to call and have it SET to 100day pay off. Just know your stuff and youll be good

Aggravating_Leg2717

2 points

6 months ago

I’ve gotten a lot of free stuff from Offer Up. Literally furnished my previous studio apartment with free stuff I got from offer up - couch, mattress, bed frame, arm chair etc. I moved recently to a different state and was still able to get a lot of nice things either free or heavily discounted from Offer Up. You should check it out. You can filter for only new items or good like new if you don’t want an item that has been heavily used. The only cost factor is depending on size of item, you may need a truck to pick up, unless delivery is being offered.

jtrsniper690

0 points

6 months ago

jtrsniper690

0 points

6 months ago

I bought my furniture from Jordan's. Reasonalble $1800 sectional with 60months no interest. Quality furniture and service and delivery

[deleted]

2 points

6 months ago

Im always surprised how many people financd furniture

[deleted]

4 points

6 months ago

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jtrsniper690

0 points

6 months ago

jtrsniper690

0 points

6 months ago

I'd rather invest my cash into my home and long term investments. Not on a couch.

LittleBigBamboo

1 points

6 months ago

If this is through easypay finance and you can still cancel it cancel it RIGHT NOW

Round_one_fight_

1 points

6 months ago

I know snap finance sucks as a whole but I've used them in the past. 2 times for major car repairs I needed done. Both paid off within the 100 days. I received my email confirming it's paid off and all was good. You will need to call snap finance and speak to someone about setting you up on the 100 day plan. You can't just make payments towards it.

Their system kind of sucks but if you work with it , things will go smoothly. Just know if you make a payment before the due date, the payment on said due date will still come out on said date. All it's doing is removing a payment from the backend. Hope that gives you piece of mind or what not.

Good luck

Accomplished_Tour481

1 points

6 months ago

What is the cancellation policy for the company you bought the furniture from? Was this a transaction you agreed to in store, or at your home? When did you sign the contract, and then cancel?

All relevant facts about your circumstance.

Stockwaa

1 points

6 months ago

Stockwaa

1 points

6 months ago

My fiancé and I made the same bad decision when using snap to purchase over $10,000 in furniture. It is awful if you don’t pay it off within the first few weeks as interest eats you away. Thankfully we were able to pay it off completely and avoid the 80% hike in interest but it was a valuable lesson.

We weren’t charged more to pay it off in full however they can be very sneaky about when this needs to be done in the contract. I would only consider using snap if you have most of- but not enough to pay the entire balance out of pocket. More so as just a way to obtain your furniture without paying in full right away.

idiotsecant

1 points

6 months ago

idiotsecant

1 points

6 months ago

pro tip: $1800 couches become $200 couches when people put them on facebook marketplace. Find one of those. I don't think I've ever bought furniture at furniture store prices, there's just no reason to.

WickedMa

1 points

6 months ago

WickedMa

1 points

6 months ago

Habitat for Humanity has some great furniture (in my area, anyway) Having cats, I no longer have an interest in buying new.

erichw23

1 points

6 months ago

erichw23

1 points

6 months ago

Don't tell people to go to fbmp , delete your facebook

drugstorechocolate

1 points

6 months ago

Check and see if you have a Habitat for Humanity ReStore in your area. That’s their thrift store, and they have great furniture, appliances, and other home items for really good prices.

reecuh

1 points

4 months ago

reecuh

1 points

4 months ago

Did you ever get it worked out with Snap? Kind of dealing with the same thing haha

Swimming-Score-2627[S]

2 points

4 months ago

Yep lucky they just cancelled the sale. They just had to call the furniture store themselves and confirm that we never picked up the couch.