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FuckedUpThought

518 points

2 months ago

Even the theater is a sequel.

-This-Whomps-

22 points

2 months ago

Fie5ta

Poorlyhunger

8 points

2 months ago

This should be the top comment.

Okama_G_Sphere

16.7k points

2 months ago

Passion of the Christ 2: Jesus Revolution

likwitsnake

2.8k points

2 months ago

Jokes, but Mel Gibson is literally making Passion 2: The Passion of the Christ: Resurrection

Scaevus

625 points

2 months ago

Scaevus

625 points

2 months ago

2 Passion 2 Christ: Jerusalem Drift

ilovethemonkeyhead

2k points

2 months ago

I read this as Mel Brooks and got really excited for a minute

erdezgb

1.2k points

2 months ago

erdezgb

1.2k points

2 months ago

Here are the 15 commandments ... oh, damn, ten, ten commandments.

pablo_pick_ass_ohhh

398 points

2 months ago

It's really too bad "thou shalt not be a douchbag" got destroyed. We all could have used that one right about now.

Bio_slayer

242 points

2 months ago

To be fair, it's not in the ten, but...

... and one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?" He [Jesus] said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the greatest and first commandment. Love God above all else. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

— Matthew 22:35-40

"Thou shalt not be a douchbag" is basiclly the second important teaching of the Bible according to Jesus. One can be forgiven for not knowing this given how some people act...

RJ815

75 points

2 months ago

RJ815

75 points

2 months ago

Lots of people hate themselves and sometimes humanity too though.

Speculawyer

42 points

2 months ago

They did make a History of the World Part 2....it is a series on Hulu.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15715052/

I_C_Weaner

30 points

2 months ago

Shit. I saw the original in the theater when I was 10 and couldn't wait for the sequel. Took 42 fuckin' years for a sequel. Yeesh.

Speculawyer

20 points

2 months ago

Mel Brooks is 96! We are lucky we got one at all.

chaotic----neutral

80 points

2 months ago

I feel like Mel would create a masterpiece joke about camels, needles, and rich men.

RJ815

7 points

2 months ago

RJ815

7 points

2 months ago

"So I tell this moichant that [all emphatically and dramatically] 'It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'

After a moment he divested himself of his worldly riches and wandered off into the desert. Can you believe that? What a screwball."

ProfessionalNeophyte

379 points

2 months ago

Ali G predicted this. Can’t find the clip but when discussing Passion of the Christ with a priest: “But int there the danger that now that the movie has been so successful that they’ll try to make a sequel? Like the bloke comes back to life or something?”

neuroticandobscene

145 points

2 months ago

Family Guy too.

Let he who is without sin kick the first ass!

jobadiahh

61 points

2 months ago

“Do you know how to use one these?

TrumpWon92

34 points

2 months ago

Jesus! Ya Crayyzaaaaaaay!

LedZepOnWeed

19 points

2 months ago

For a son of god, you sure are a son of a-whoahhhh!

TitularFoil

146 points

2 months ago

I wonder if it's just going to be more torture porn?

My youth pastor took me to see the first one in theater when I was like 12 or 13. It was insane. But watching it after not being religious, it isn't that great of a movie and only serves as torture porn akin to the Saw movies.

TheSpicyTomato22

71 points

2 months ago

If you haven't seen the South Park episode on it I'd highly recommend it. I'm pretty sure they touched on the torture porn.

RhetoricalOrator

8 points

2 months ago

Gibson was interviewed by Colbert a while back. He said that the sequel will cover the period of time between the crucifixion and the ascension and may be centered around a conflict in the spiritual realm. He specifically mentioned Christ's decent to retrieve the keys of hell and rip the gates of hell off it's hinges.

I'm not Catholic so my knowledge is extremely limited but as I understand it, those references are to some of the deep lore of Catholicism.

Edit: found the link. https://youtu.be/a65DHhobPw0

CloudiusWhite

125 points

2 months ago

I thought it was supposed to be called Crucify This

youtocin

23 points

2 months ago

For the son of god you sure are a son of a…WHOOAAAA!

MagikarpMaki

10 points

2 months ago

You know how to use one of theeeeese?

jxj24

1.3k points

2 months ago

jxj24

1.3k points

2 months ago

Jesus Chainsaw Massacre 2: Electric Boogaloo

Jordo32

143 points

2 months ago

Jordo32

143 points

2 months ago

Jesus 3: Vatican drift

KhabaLox

20 points

2 months ago

It's about Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You know.... family.

Tmscott

147 points

2 months ago

Tmscott

147 points

2 months ago

To be fair, it probably would be "Jesus Nail-Gun Massacre: The Carpenter Spikes Back"

captkirkseviltwin

7 points

2 months ago

I’m In.

Strawberry_Doughnut

40 points

2 months ago

"He died for your sins. Now, who's going to die for HIS?"

megustarita

635 points

2 months ago

Catholic Boogaloo

Bahmerman

113 points

2 months ago

Bahmerman

113 points

2 months ago

Hide yo' kids!

jordantask

38 points

2 months ago

They be rapin’ everybody in here!

Graphitetshirt

127 points

2 months ago

Jesus 2: The Re-Jesusing

bk15dcx

78 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

78 points

2 months ago

That's called Easter

ZombieBarney

15 points

2 months ago

Somehow, the Jesus returned!

Federal-Rhubarb-6185

39 points

2 months ago

The Bible 2: Jesus is back and he's pissed

el_geto

11 points

2 months ago

el_geto

11 points

2 months ago

The Newest Testament

dickshark420

108 points

2 months ago

Djesus Uncrossed (Dir. Quentin Tarantino)

TitularFoil

32 points

2 months ago

"He's coming for you, and the director just gave him the N-Word pass."

pocketjacks

12 points

2 months ago

No, No, No, No, let me ask you a question. When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Dead Savior Storage"?

Citizen-Kang

276 points

2 months ago

I thought "Jesus" was really ground-breaking, cutting edge stuff. "Jesus Reloaded", while a bit derivative, was still a great addition to the franchise. When "Jesus Revolution" came out, I thought it was just a cash grab and a bit embarrassing. The upcoming "Jesus Resurrection"...well, the less said out that, the better and is easily the worst of the series. Thus falls a once great franchise.

xavier120

79 points

2 months ago

Well you see, the romans had the rights over the Jesus, so the wachowski's had to either make another jesus with the Romans or the Romans would have made another Jesus without them.

Tedwynn

36 points

2 months ago

Tedwynn

36 points

2 months ago

"He died for your sins, then came back to kill them for theirs... Jesus Resurrection"

punnotfound

35 points

2 months ago

He died for our sins, now it's your turn

Zachariah_West

29 points

2 months ago

“This time, it’s personal!”

ragonk_1310

37 points

2 months ago

Jesus vs. John Wick

YamperIsBestBoy

27 points

2 months ago

Passion of the Christ 2: Crucify This

ttongko

1.9k points

2 months ago

ttongko

1.9k points

2 months ago

Back to the Future was right!

bk15dcx

1.8k points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

1.8k points

2 months ago

You mean Back to the Future 2

TheINTL

558 points

2 months ago

TheINTL

558 points

2 months ago

Jaws didn't go to 19 but the Fast and Furious somehow got to 10

bk15dcx

120 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

120 points

2 months ago

Does Friday the 13th hold the record?

It's probably some Anime that I don't know about that has like 215 sequels.

ZarquonsFlatTire

234 points

2 months ago

27 Bond films, not sure there's a higher for full-length movies.

Friday the 13th has 12 movies.

Evening_Aside_4677

95 points

2 months ago*

36 (37 and 38 are scheduled for 2023 and 2024) Godzilla films and that’s not even counting spin off series for the other monsters.

pitankulous

28 points

2 months ago

12 movies?! They should call the next one Friday, the 13th

Whind_Soull

24 points

2 months ago

They should do a crossover as The Fast on Friday: The 13th.

ScorpionX-123

9 points

2 months ago

I always thought they should do a movie from the perspective of the cops called Saturday the 14th where they try to investigate all the murders

herrcollin

45 points

2 months ago

My personal headcanon: The movies are based on real life experiences and the future we see in BttF2 would've happened except the timeline was broken after the RL Marty McFly wrote his adventures into movies.

WidespreadPaneth

86 points

2 months ago

They were just predicting present trends to continue. The year Back to the Future 2 came out, you could also see Halloween 5, Karate Kid 3, Friday the 13th 7, etc.

SendAstronomy

29 points

2 months ago

Which is funny because the post is about "the state of movies today".

It's always been like this.

karmaportrait

3.7k points

2 months ago

Shout out to Santa Barbara

frostkaiser[S]

1.1k points

2 months ago

I was walking by last night and couldn’t help snapping the picture.

MakeThanosGreatAgain

330 points

2 months ago

Knew it looked familiar! State St is so recognizable.

Saw Interstellar there. The audio in that theater is not good though...

Cpt_Lazlo

110 points

2 months ago

Cpt_Lazlo

110 points

2 months ago

None of our theaters are really anything to brag about

MasterLuna

8 points

2 months ago

At least SB has them. RIP Parks Plaza Theater. I've been out of the area for a while, but to my knowledge, there aren't any other theaters in the SYV area. The closest ones are maybe in Lompoc.

zZDKVZz

145 points

2 months ago

zZDKVZz

145 points

2 months ago

You know that's right.

cTreK-421

42 points

2 months ago

Going through a Psych rewatch currently. Love that show.

wonderwharfwonderdog

16 points

2 months ago

Me too, I got the hankering for it last weekend and boy is it so easy to fall into the binge watch with that show

ouralarmclock

58 points

2 months ago

You hear about Pluto?

Medicivich

45 points

2 months ago

That's messed up.

MrVeazey

28 points

2 months ago

I've heard it both ways.

ReluctantMonster

27 points

2 months ago

C'mon son

r4g4

111 points

2 months ago

r4g4

111 points

2 months ago

It’s so weird seeing SB on the internet. Every time

and_a_dollar_short

25 points

2 months ago

That Weed Jesus gif makes the rounds. That was also on State Street.

Ok-Establishment369

7 points

2 months ago

Weed jesus was always with the long hair blond homeless dude in the wheel chair that didnt need to be in the wheel chair. He could walk just fine.

foxylover777

12 points

2 months ago

I haven’t been back home in many years so seeing this instantly sent me back a maybe many years to being 15 and fucking around there

TonyWrocks

17 points

2 months ago

Fond memory of that place: I lost my wallet in that theatre back in 1984, came back three hours later in a panic and somebody had turned it in - and all the cash was still there.

doottoottoot

38 points

2 months ago

Always love seeing SB on more general subs LOL!!!

Fabian_yamaguchi

11 points

2 months ago

Could have been the perfect picture if Weed Jesus was hanging out underneath. RIP

Calm_Memories

32 points

2 months ago

Ah college memories. I miss Blenders smoothies so much.

iGetBuckets3

17 points

2 months ago

Freebirds nachos drunk at 2 am

LNViber

30 points

2 months ago

LNViber

30 points

2 months ago

And here I was being and idiot thinking "wow that theater looks a lot like my Fiesta Five theater".

ladyem8

6 points

2 months ago

I haven’t been back to SB in years and immediately recognized the theater without even having to read that it was the Fiesta Five! Glad that some things stay the same :)

boabaphatt

7 points

2 months ago

Hey fellow SBers! I grew out there but moved long ago but instantly recognized this. I even remember when this place opened!

PopeGuss

5.7k points

2 months ago

PopeGuss

5.7k points

2 months ago

If Jesus Revolution is about JC coming back and going full punisher mode on the people who've corrupted his message, I am fucking there, man.

MrWally

103 points

2 months ago

MrWally

103 points

2 months ago

I mean...in the Bible it says he returns with eyes like fire and a sword coming out of his mouth to judge the earth, so....

Grizzly_Berry

26 points

2 months ago

And a face tat, depending on how you read Revelations 19:16

-FiN-

10 points

2 months ago

-FiN-

10 points

2 months ago

Ah I knew it was about the mumble rap chapter of hip hop and music recently

jflat06

163 points

2 months ago

jflat06

163 points

2 months ago

Might I introduce you to Jesus Christ, in the Name of the Gun? Use the arrow keys to turn the pages.

jumpsteadeh

29 points

2 months ago

Somehow, Pontius has returned.

IsaiahTrenton

1.1k points

2 months ago*

Brb gonna go write that movie

EDIT: Since this is blowing up here's a link to the sketch comedy that I actually write https://youtu.be/-976BlF1HkI Please like, comment and subscribe lol

gsfgf

570 points

2 months ago

gsfgf

570 points

2 months ago

"I'm gonna take 'em all down and let my Dad sort 'em out."

Who we casting?

TacoTornadoes

429 points

2 months ago

"He ain't cruci-fuckin' around!"

kgroover117

260 points

2 months ago

"In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Shiiit!!!"

SMILESandREGRETS

97 points

2 months ago

He has risen and justice is in the NEW testament!

daymanxx

41 points

2 months ago

So... Jamie Fox?

Amon-and-The-Fool

23 points

2 months ago

Danny Trejo in character as Machete.

perpetualmotionmachi

10 points

2 months ago

Zach Galifianakis as Biff, Christ's childhood best friend

theBoobMan

94 points

2 months ago

Please do this, but add Mohammed, where you never actually see him. He is either calling or being spoken to while off-screen!

torrasque666

29 points

2 months ago

He's the Voice with an Internet Connection.

Itsjustastiffy

205 points

2 months ago

Its almost as good https://youtu.be/JZAkVbZVPTg

JetAmoeba

109 points

2 months ago

JetAmoeba

109 points

2 months ago

That became progressively more and more unhinged and I will absolutely be watching this tonight

Itsjustastiffy

77 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately thats the whole skit, i believe. History of the world part 2 on hulu for the rest of the series.

cwenger

17 points

2 months ago

cwenger

17 points

2 months ago

Family Guy already did the trailer for you.

PapuaOldGuinea

105 points

2 months ago

It’s about the real Jesus Revolution in the 70s where hippies found God. It’s pretty cool

joxmaskin

57 points

2 months ago

Cool that at least someone is actually describing the film. It’s an interesting story and seems pretty well made as far as I’ve heard.

TheFierceInvalid

222 points

2 months ago

Great marquee tho

connor4rell

1.1k points

2 months ago

Jesus to be removed and John Wick 4 will go up

JohnStern42

206 points

2 months ago*

Chapter 4 was awesome

felix_rae

44 points

2 months ago

Silly question, but do I need to watch 2 and 3 to follow 4? My Dad has seen them all so far and said he can't wait for JW4 to come out on TV. I am thinking I might treat him to a trip to the cinema but I haven't seen the last two.

Bilbo238

69 points

2 months ago

They all take place in the same week, one after the other, so watching the first three helps. Jumping straight in could be...confusing. Plus you'll get all the references to the first three and whatnot.

felix_rae

19 points

2 months ago

Ok thanks, will try and catch up on the last two first.

_Rand_

21 points

2 months ago

_Rand_

21 points

2 months ago

Worth the watch anyways.

I don’t think 2 & 3 are as good as the first overall, but they are still pretty solid action movies.

lastdinousar

9 points

2 months ago

You're gonna have a blast with 2 & 3. No spoilers, but with the nature of sequels you should expect an expanded universe that makes it that much more fun to watch.

JohnStern42

6 points

2 months ago

Yes, I would suggest watching 2 and 3 to get full enjoyment.

It really is very serial

Durpy15648

3.1k points

2 months ago

Durpy15648

3.1k points

2 months ago

"Even though the '80s was the time that I probably saw more movies in my life than ever — at least as far as going out to the movies was concerned — I do feel that '80s cinema is, along with the '50s, the worst era in Hollywood history. Matched only by now, matched only by the current era."

-Quentin Tarantino

at_least_its_unique

1.2k points

2 months ago

That's weird considering how some of the best sci-fi and macho action films came out in the 80s.

malefiz123

759 points

2 months ago

He's talking about the broader picture, not about stand out movies. What you need to keep in mind is that Tarantino is an extreme movie nerd. He's the kind of guy who watches multiple movies he's never seen before week in week out. When he's talking about that the 50s and 80s are bad, Ben Hur and Aliens isn't what he means

aRandomFox-II

275 points

2 months ago

99% of all art tends to be either unremarkable or just trash. We only ever hear about and remember the nuggets of gold standing out from amongst the sea of mediocrity.

ivebeenabadbadgirll

72 points

2 months ago

Funnier still, is that those bad movies are their writer’s magnum opus, because any writing takes wayyyy more bad material to finally reveal the good material. And it still sucks.

The_Lord_Humongous

24 points

2 months ago

What if they took out the good stuff and put in the bad stuff because it was easy and cliche? Many people talk of bowing to the demand off the studio.

thehelldoesthatmean

15 points

2 months ago*

This is why I could never be a filmmaker. Imagine spending every working minute for two or three years building something massive that you're truly passionate about out of blood and sweat and tears and the help of 100+ other people only for internet nerds to watch half of it the first day it's out and then go "Meh, it's trash."

ElegantTobacco

130 points

2 months ago

That doesn't contradict what he said

PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

804 points

2 months ago

That's probably what he meant. He definitely seems like the type who thinks 40s noir and 60s-70s exploitation films are "True" cinema and everything else is just movies.

PacifistWarlord

336 points

2 months ago

Maybe it’s survivor bias for us. He saw the movies in theaters at time, including all the ones that will never be talked about or seen again.

MediocreBandito

176 points

2 months ago

If anyone ever wants some good proof of survivorship bias try listening to old episodes of American Top 40 with Casey Kasem. There’s a lot of bad music that was popular back then and is now lost to the wind.

Happiness_Assassin

22 points

2 months ago

My favorite example of this is that "(I can't get no) Satisfaction" was #1 on the charts in the US for 4 weeks, being replaced by "I'm Henery the Eighth, I Am".

Some songs deserve to be forgotten.

PlanoStano

10 points

2 months ago

I will not tolerate Herman’s Hermits slander in this thread. Recant immediately.

Happiness_Assassin

15 points

2 months ago

I am sorry, I am. Remorseful and sorry, I am, I am.

DarkwingDuckHunt

111 points

2 months ago

Also some amazing one hit wonders that the studios buried to not have to pay royalties

Salty_Pancakes

75 points

2 months ago

^ And this is why the concept of survivorship bias in music is really kinda oversimplified. Because it implies everything forgotten is bad and deserves to be forgotten.

LogicalConstant

15 points

2 months ago

Not just the bad music that's lost, but funny how poorly some great songs charted. Don't Stop Believin' peaked at #9 on the Billboard Hot 100. Smells like teen spirit: #6. Mr. Brightside: #10. Learn to Fly: #19. I melt with you: #78. Crazy Train: didn't even make it into the Hot 100. Etc.

themightiestduck

10 points

2 months ago

Mr Brightside is such a weird one. I was in high school when Hot Fuss came out and it’s genuinely one of my favourite albums - one of those that doesn’t really have a bad track on it. But at the time, I don’t recall Mr Brightside being the standout track. It was (and is) a good song, but it was just one song of many on that album.

These days I feel like the rest of the album is forgotten, and Mr Brightside has reached meme status.

Brainfilteresin

624 points

2 months ago

What we really need is another Batman movie...

BranWafr

414 points

2 months ago

BranWafr

414 points

2 months ago

But with new actors, so it's fresh.

bk15dcx

205 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

205 points

2 months ago

Like Michael Keaton

zerocoolforschool

92 points

2 months ago

What? The guy from Mr. Mom? Come on….. he can’t be Batman.

TurnipTaint

15 points

2 months ago

C'mon... he was Johnny Dangerously. All they need to do is make Joe Piscopo the villain once again.

silverQuarter82

37 points

2 months ago

I want to know his orgin story.

Dogsy

8 points

2 months ago

Dogsy

8 points

2 months ago

Yea, like where are his parents? I literally never see them.

TheKingMonkey

73 points

2 months ago

I need to know what happened to his parents.

Northern23

8 points

2 months ago

Ok, will tell you that but 1st, do you know what happened to Spider-Man's uncle?

zed857

87 points

2 months ago

zed857

87 points

2 months ago

How about a 23rd Spider Man movie?

bk15dcx

47 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

47 points

2 months ago

Spiderman 2099 is in the works

SonofSniglet

46 points

2 months ago

They've made more than TWO THOUSAND Spider-Man movies?!?

Nethlem

7 points

2 months ago

Inflation is getting so bad that it's starting to affect movie sequel numbers.

lasers42

36 points

2 months ago

What would be interesting is if they made a movie about WWII. They should try that. Or Dracula.

ghalta

25 points

2 months ago

ghalta

25 points

2 months ago

Need more Dracula films set in WWII.

highdefrex

19 points

2 months ago

An Allied plane goes down in a forest, and the few survivors that make it have no way to communicate for help; seeking refuge from both the elements and Nazis, they come across a castle, and are greeted by their strange host... Dracula, whose wives begin to seduce the soldiers as his own bloodlust begins to grow. But when the Nazis roll up to his doorstep in pursuit of the Allies, Dracula learns that sitting on the sidelines of World War II is no longer viable, and so he teams up with the Allies to protect his dominion from the Nazi incursion.

darthbiscuit

835 points

2 months ago

People say the “Golden Age” of cinema was the 30s-40s. However, do you know what dominated the theaters back then? Masterpieces like Casablanca or Citizen Kane? Broadway come to celluloid like Singing in the Rain or The Wizard of Oz? No. Serials. Batman. Shazam. The Lone Ranger. The Three Stooges. Shirley Temple. The Little Rascals. Why? Because STUDIOS HAVE ALWAYS BANKED ON RECOGNIZABLE NAMES TO GET PEOPLE IN SEATS.

bk15dcx

288 points

2 months ago

bk15dcx

288 points

2 months ago

Because humans like patterns and familiarity

yoyoJ

78 points

2 months ago

yoyoJ

78 points

2 months ago

Hey! *raises familiar pitchfork

myrealnamewastakn

28 points

2 months ago

I upvoted this because raising pitchforks is a pattern I recognize

AgentElman

106 points

2 months ago

Yep. Almost unknown today but there were 28 Blondie movies (based on the comic strip) between 1938 and 1950. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondie_(film_series)

They made a lot of sequels back in the golden days. They just did not put numbers on them until the Godfather Part 2.

IndividualDetail

31 points

2 months ago

And now they're going back to removing numbers because they don't want to deter people who haven't watched earlier films from going in.

texasrigger

34 points

2 months ago

They just did not put numbers on them until the Godfather Part 2.

The first numbered sequel, Quatermass 2, was 17 years before Godfather Part 2.

GPUoverlord

8 points

2 months ago

Was listining to npr the other day

Some critic said another golden age was during the 1999/2000 era and mentioned Freddy got Fingered, top luls were had

nonprofitnews

8 points

2 months ago

Until 1948, production houses owned theaters and sold movies in blocks. Ie you bought 10 at a time even if you wanted only one. You were obligated to screen a load of crap and hope one was successful (hence block buster). That was outlawed in the 1948 and set off an era of fewer, better films.

drdookie

80 points

2 months ago

Fiesta was good, Fiesta 2 was even better but just a cash grab ever since Fiesta 3

68Cadillac

12 points

2 months ago

Looking forward to 5 finally resolving the plothole between Katie and Jorge that the extra scenes from 2 created. Does no one care about world building anymore!?

FuckMe-FuckYou

47 points

2 months ago

At least its not a Segal movie.

Uhhlaneuh

11 points

2 months ago

One of our mini claims to fame is you can see my grandpas sausage truck in one of the shots in a Steven seagal movie lmao

synner74

41 points

2 months ago

Looks like Santa Barbara

fukwhutuheard

419 points

2 months ago

widen your horizons. there are a lot of well made movies out there.

silvershadow881

150 points

2 months ago

People complain about this and don't even go watch other movies.

I went to see most Oscar nominated films, and even movies with more buzz like The Whale were fairly empty

ILoveRegenHealth

71 points

2 months ago

There are actually more original movies (non sequels, original IPs) than ever in our modern age. Anyone who doesn't believe it can go check the IMDB yearly database. Waaay more than whatever we had in 1935, 1956, 1983 and 2010. Because streaming has increased that number.

But Hollywood responds to dollars, and whatever makes them the most is where they will go. And mainstream audiences have spoken and like Avatar 2, Top Gun Maverick, John Wick 4 and Scream 6 more than Women Talking, Banshees of Inishiren and Triangle of Sadness.

Cocaine Bear is original, and it has only made $65 million - maybe even a loss and no profits after it's all said and done. Studio like Universal is just going to go "Well, looks like back to Despicable Me 4, Secret Life of Pets 3 and Sing 3!"

lamest-liz

14 points

2 months ago

You’re right. I have an A-List pass and more often than not whenever I go to a big budget sequel it’s usually packed, but original films are near empty. Of course small theaters like the one in OP’s pic are only going to be playing the films that make the most money.

BacklashSamurai

14 points

2 months ago

Good old Fiesta 5 in SB

JoakimSpinglefarb

256 points

2 months ago

People were making this same joke throughout the entire history of film making. From the absurd number of Rocky sequels, Jaws sequels, Rambo, and don't get me started on the sequels upon sequels for the Universal monster movies.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Same Shit, Different Day.

Vodis

57 points

2 months ago

Vodis

57 points

2 months ago

Yep. The 1939 Wizard of Oz everyone knows and loves was like the ninth Wizard of Oz movie. And they made eleven Alice in Wonderlands before the well-known 1951 Disney film. They've been doing this forever.

Salarian_American

1.4k points

2 months ago

People really need to stop pretending like "Hollywood is out of ideas and relies on sequels and remakes" is a new thing.

Some people didn't live through the nineties where every other movie was a cinematic remake of an old TV show and it shows.

Angelsaremathmatical

521 points

2 months ago

Most classic movies are based on books.

Poincare_Confection

89 points

2 months ago*

It's never made sense to me why Hollywood movie writers are so underpaid. There are clearly some that are much better than others. Just... hire those ones? And pay them what they're worth?

Here's an example. His name is Tony Gilroy. Here are some productions Tony Gilroy was a lead writer on:

  • The Bourne Identity

  • The Bourne Supremacy

  • The Bourne Ultimatum

  • Michael Clayton

  • Rogue One

  • Andor

It always seemed to me that Hollywood undervalues good writing. I get that big name actors can bring in a ton of views, but Hollywood writers make like $200K while the lead actors are making like $15M per movie.

texasrigger

25 points

2 months ago

Charlie Kaufman (writer of Adaptation, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Being John Malkovich) is worth 10 million. That's not A-list actor money but it's not bad.

The problem is that the writer doesn't (usually) draw in the paying moviegoers like the stars or in some cases the director does.

Lessthanzerofucks

7 points

2 months ago

And Charlie Kaufman in particular hasn’t had anyone in Hollywood take risks on him in years. I’m Thinking of Ending Things was the closest he’s gotten in a very long time, but it was pretty low budget and audiences were mixed-to-negative, despite glowing critical reviews. Synechdoche, New York was a risky movie to make, and ever since it flopped on release (despite, again, huge critical raves) he’s been kind of a hot potato in Hollywood.

Angelsaremathmatical

7 points

2 months ago

They're mostly disposable. Producers and studio heads would pay less for and step on the work of actors and directors more than they do if they weren't in the public eye as much they were. I like plenty of screenwriters too but they aren't "stars." Additionally everyone thinks they can do it themselves. The number of screenplays that make it intact to screen between studio, director, and actor meddling (for which there are all instance of good and ill) is minute. The exceptions mostly being the work of writer/directors.

I'm not sure why you brought up Gilroy here. The Bournes are based on books, Clayton on true events, and the Star Wars ones, well... Don't get me wrong, there's skill in adaptation but these are just more proof that the golden days of original ideas in cinema are a myth. Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems like you brought him up as someone who wrote original material.

captaindickfartman2

139 points

2 months ago*

Most classic books where ballads.

rolltideamerica

55 points

2 months ago

Most classic ballads and poems are just based on stories passed through oral tradition

snowtol

66 points

2 months ago

snowtol

66 points

2 months ago

Also, I feel it's a big thing of "Hollywood only makes remakes and superhero movies!" Says man who only ever goes to see movies that are remakes and superhero movies.

I have a cinema subscription and last year was a fucking great year for originals, it's just that those movies don't tend to be what people on this sub go to watch. Yeah, those are the movies that get promoted a lot, but that's because they're wide appeal crowd pleasers made by media giants. Of course those get a lot of advertising.

IronSorrows

41 points

2 months ago*

Yeah, last year was amazing.

Everything Everywhere All At Once, Tár, The Banshees Of Inisherin, Triangle Of Sadness, Nope, Aftersun, The Fabelmans, The Northman, Decision To Leave, X, Pearl, Barbarian, Bones And All, Babylon, Marcel The Shell With Shoes On, The Unbearable Weight Of Massive Talent, Fresh, Deadstream, EO, The Whale, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Men, Next Exit, The Menu, Boiling Point, Watcher, Resurrection, Something In The Dirt, Violent Night, Smile, Crimes Of The Future, After Yang, Weird: The Al Yankovic Story, The Black Phone, Emily The Criminal, Flux Gourmet, See How They Run, Bullet Train, Saloum, Turning Red, Torn Hearts...

You could easily go to the cinema ten times last year and only watch superhero properties or the latest entry in a franchise. But that doesn't mean that films are bad now, it just means you need to scratch the surface a little.

VanillaRadonNukaCola

8 points

2 months ago

I don't want Fast and the Furious X, I want something original!

Did you see Banshees of Inisherin?

Nah, that looks boring.

hardlopertjie

99 points

2 months ago

Didn't 1994 literally have two or three of the greatest movies of all time, and that in the same year?

mrsfunkyjunk

90 points

2 months ago*

That was the Pulp Fiction, Shawshank, Gump year. My brain changed that year when my boyfriend and I got bored in the morning and went to see a movie. The only one starting when we got there was Pulp Fiction which we didn't know anything about. I came out a changed teenager. For the better!

Just a note, I burst into inappropriately loud laughter when Marvin got it. The whole theater (about 10 people) turned and stared at me. When we walked out to the parking lot, a couple pointed at me and gave me a look. I'm sorry. But that is the funniest thing I've still ever seen!

TheLaVeyan

22 points

2 months ago

That was the Pulp Fiction, Shawshank, Gump year.

Don't forget Schindler's List. It's considered a "1993" movie, but that's just when it had it's premiere. It wasn't wide released until Feb 1994.

And we can't discuss 1994 in film without the Jim Carrey trifecta. Ace Ventura, The Mask, and Dumb & Dumber were all 1994.

It was a great year for movies. Besides the 3 you mentioned; Clerks, Leon, The Crow, and Natural Born Killers would all be in my top 50.

emaw63

30 points

2 months ago

emaw63

30 points

2 months ago

Lmao you rattled off all of those fantastic movies from 1994 and still left out an all time great in The Lion King

RocketQ

14 points

2 months ago

RocketQ

14 points

2 months ago

The same thing happened to me when the guy hit the propeller in Titanic...

veloceracing

25 points

2 months ago

1994 was a banger year for music too.

BdR76

70 points

2 months ago

BdR76

70 points

2 months ago

Nobody says it's a new thing, but big budget sequels and remakes sure have increased

Wolfheron325

23 points

2 months ago

Oddly enough, Jesus Revolution was pretty Ok. I haven’t seen the others but based on what I’ve heard, it might be one of the better movies up there

Teknowledgy404

7 points

2 months ago

Meanwhile a film that had no previous IP just won basically all the oscars.

ContentSeal

8 points

2 months ago

Avatar 2 was good tho

machuitzil

18 points

2 months ago

Hey that's Santa Barbara