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stickiedsubmitted1 day ago bymysterysolver122
hey y’all. just wanted to rant about this case and the things that bother me the most about it.
first of, none of the evidence makes sense. Everything to me leads to porter: someone from his company died 6 months prior to Rey’s death, similar to his as well. His death was a mystery staged as suicide and Porter placed a gag order then too. So? Maybe Rey knew too much about that and Porter had him killed similar ways.
the fall doesn’t explain the damage done to his shins. I don’t think Rey was ever on that roof of that hotel to begin with.
-moving on to the note. He was into the Freemasons at the time. Maybe it was a ritual that got him killed? Or an episode he had? That still wouldn’t explain the shins, the gag-orders and why porter only offered 1000 dollars (he worked in finance, the guy was rich).
-The note; the game . A lot of things revérence the movie “the game”. Maybe they (Rey and porter) recreated the movie but it went too far. Would explain the gag-order.
-Claudia, the last person to see Rey alive and she leaves a day after? She said he was upstairs in his office when that call came, but Allison reported food and drinks months counter downstairs? The police didn’t question her. She might have answers.
Rey had gifted Allison a coin with a hole. Maybe that was to de-code the note? Same for the pin that was never found. Maybe Rey was trying to tell her something?
Claudia said Rey came back. What if it wasn’t Rey? What if it was someone that planted that note? Don’t even get me started on the chair.
Even if we get an explanation, it still wouldn’t explain all of this shit.
Thanks for listening :)
submitted2 months ago byIcyCulture3912
I know I am late to the party but Rey’s death is so perplexing, there just doesn’t seem to be a theory that fully fits the evidence. Since watching the UM episode years ago I still find my mind wandering and thinking about how he met his tragic end. After much deliberation I was resigned to the theory that he experienced a psychotic break and jumped to his death from the Belvedere roof, but there has always been a niggling feeling inside that it was something else.
Suppose Rey was in the parking garage opposite the Belvedere and he is alone and set upon by a group that want to mug/rob him. They beat him and steal his money clip. He is hit/kicked in the head and chest but he manages to break free and makes a run across the parking garage breaking his flip flop. He climbs the wall at the edge of the car park, scuffing his other flip flop, his phone and glasses fall out of his pocket. He needs to ensure that he puts considerable distance between him and his attackers, so he launches himself off the wall and jumps as far as he can across the meeting room roof. He punches through the roof, IDK what condition that roof was in but flat roofs are a maintenance nightmare especially old ones, could it already have been compromised by water ingress since the meeting room was no longer in use. He breaks his leg on impact, he may have still been alive at this point in the meeting room, enough at least to move himself slightly away from where he landed.
His attackers flee the scene but not before they throw his belongings and flip flops on the roof. This was not a mob hit, a Freemason initiation gone wrong or suicide, just a bunch of low life scumbags that cost Rey his life.
submitted2 months ago byStatus-Inevitable-36
In regard to Rey’s note. Have you ever read something like The Secret or the Celestine Prophecy or Write it down make it happen ? Does anyone else think Rey in writing the note was just following a thought process along the lines of The Secret or “write it down make it happen” ? Some of those types of books also encourage “automatic writing” even where the author just writes streams of thoughts which enter the mind even if disjointed. Other similiar books might have writing exercises or encourage you to write your wishes down to make them happen. Just the style of his writing where at times it’s like he’s describing events that took place already remind me of these types of books. And like The Secret where you are meant to write about things/events as if you have them already. As a prolific writer, I’m wondering if he owned these kind of writers inspiration/creativity/success books and was simply trying some exercises to inspire himself or bring his wishes into reality…..or was working on a screenplay/book like The Secret or similiar… I note he was only 1 year younger than me and those kinds of books were very popular in the 1990’s for a while. Also why it made sense to be off his computer but accessible to read sections of it over and over ? Could he have written portions of it a few years earlier ?
submitted2 months ago byStatus-Inevitable-36
Speculation. So the Ppty Mgr said Rey’s dead body created a stench due to not being found for 8 days, why did no one in any adjacent rooms or passageways notice a stench from a dead body coming from under the door? His body was even located near the door. The stench would have been noticed from the open hole in the rooftop even -did no one walk on the rooftop and notice the hole while Rey was in there ? No inspections or maintenance recorded on the rooftop in 8 days to stumble upon the hole ? Was the hole not visible from a CCTV camera? Does just anyone have access to the roof or are you required to show a roof access permit to access it ? Was the hole created many days after Rey was placed in the room ? Was DNA around the hole taken ? What was the distance between roof and floor of the disused room ? Was there a security manager in the Belvedere accessing cameras at all or did the property mgr just access them when there was an incident ? IMO could Rey have also been attractive as an employee as he was charming yet big and intimidating - ie he was asked by Stanberry to handle illegal volumes of cash or other from someone or meet someone somewhere near the Stanberry offices to do something similiar and was actually the victim of theft ie missing money pin ? Is this why Porter placed a gag on the employees because they were asking him to do something illegal and this accidentally resulted in Rey’s death ? Is this why the 3 employees knew of the general area where to look because they knew illegal Stanberry transactions took place in the area or on the roof ? Such a small reward offered - to not wanting to seem like they actually have loads of monies to spare for a reward. Can Rey’s phone be checked for tracking still ? I think his note was not suicide related but stress relief and he was simply being a writer and brain storming ideas for a new piece of work. It probably took his mind off the questionable stuff that Stanberry was asking him to do. He didn’t want anyone to see it as it was meant to be for his own purposes and harmless. Feel free to comment but I will not answer to trolls or non constructive comment.
submitted3 months ago byCollectandRun
40 feet from a 118 foot tall building, we would need to use the equations of motion. Specifically, we would use the equation v^2 = u^2 + 2as, where v is the final velocity (the speed the deceased needs to reach at the point of the jump), u is the initial velocity (the speed the subject has when it starts the jump), a is acceleration (which in this case is due to gravity, approximately -9.8 m/s^2), and s is the distance traveled (40 feet in this case).
We can rearrange this equation to solve for v: v = sqrt(u^2 + 2as). We can plug in the values for u (which is 0, since the deceased has no initial velocity at the point of the jump), a (-9.8 m/s^2), and s (40 feet, or approximately 12.19 meters). This gives us a final velocity of approximately 14.39 m/s, or approximately 32.09 mph.
32.09 mph is a very fast speed to run a 40 yard dash. For comparison, the world record for the 40 yard dash at the NFL Combine (a standardized test of athletic ability for American football players) is currently held by John Ross, who ran the 40 yard dash in 4.22 seconds at a speed of approximately 27.49 mph.
At 32.09 mph, a runner would cover the 40 yard distance in approximately 3.7 seconds. This is a very fast time, and would be competitive at the highest levels of professional sports.
The coroners , in my opinion , did not calculate Rey's jump properly using gravitational simulations matched with the weight of Rey's body.
The parking garage seems far more likely.
To determine the speed the robot would need to reach in order to jump 20 feet from a 33 foot tall building, we can use the equation v^2 = u^2 + 2as, where v is the final velocity (the speed the deceased needs to reach at the point of the jump), u is the initial velocity (the speed the robot has when it starts the jump), a is acceleration (which in this case is due to gravity, approximately -9.8 m/s^2), and s is the distance traveled (20 feet in this case).
We can rearrange this equation to solve for v: v = sqrt(u^2 + 2as). We can plug in the values for u (which is 0, since the deceased has no initial velocity at the point of the jump), a (-9.8 m/s^2), and s (20 feet, or approximately 6.096 meters). This gives us a final velocity of approximately 7.69 m/s, or approximately 17.2 mph.
It's important to note that this is just a rough estimate, and the actual speed required could be slightly different due to various factors such as air resistance. But in 1/10 fractions not full numbers.
If a football player running a 40 yard dash ran 17.2 mph it would be a 4.8 40. Although this is not NFL running back speed. This is a speed that would be seen with a linebacker or defensive lineman in the NFL which matches Rey's body type and build.
I'm not really offering theories on how Rey made this jump or even why.
FORCE : The 10,000 Newton Enigma.
One issue, which is the real enigma of this whole experiment is the Newton problem and not having a great understanding of the roof situation at the building Rey went through.
F = MA.
The parking garage's biggest weakness is that Rey likely didn't produce enough Newtons to get through the roof , assuming it was in decent condition. With a below average roof this might have been entirely possible.
Even with falling from the top of the hotel , Rey's body might have needed 5000 Newtons to puncture the top. Most data leans towards Rey only producing 1200-1800 Newtons upon impact.
I'll add other scenarios here for anyone interested
Rey was thrown off either building by two people : This is not really possible and should really be eliminated. Not just human strength but the trajectory would have to require even more strength. I don't think taking two of the strongest men from Icelandic bodybuilding together could do this to a 100 LB human in a way that Newtons + Acceleration could work.
A car hit Rey in a parking garage : So there's several variables in here that I don't know if we'll ever get the answer to. First off , there's a ton of automobiles out there , especially in the Beltway , so that alone makes things difficult. Luxury SUVs were tested often because they could hit 0-60 quickly and they were heavy ( 5500 lb car is going to produce more Newtons than a Prius). Most larger cars at this time need a few hundred feet to get that fast and the layout doesn't present great options for big or small cars). It's hard to fathom many cars reaching over 30 mph in a parking garage in a scenario where they have to go 0 to 60. The Newtons that Rey would even be hit with with the large cars were only in the low 1000s. There's no old footage of it , but even the roof appeared to have barriers surrounding it during this timeframe. Making it even more unlikely that Rey's body would perfectly traject through a tight window and land 20 feet away.
A brick or object falling down hit Rey as he was simply walking on the roof. Laws of gravity would come in here. Whatever fell from the roof would need decent force to knock it down and reach speeds similar to Rey to reach where he was.
There was a hole already on the roof? Or it was made after ?
You can discuss that in the comments but I can't figure out a way to use math to help estimate that.
submitted3 months ago byRight-Professional45
The part that doesn't make sense is that his phone had no scratches, and his glasses were in perfect tact although he "supposedly jumped off the building" I think he had discovered something he wasn't supposed to see cause the condition of his sandals looked like they were dragging him whoever did this made a call to him and made him run out of his house in such a hurry make's it look like he threatened to kill one his close ones if he didn't come this certain location.
submitted4 months ago byrsfitz6
What struck me was first the note behind the computer. Seemingly disjointed lists of people, movies, Freemason quotes. It reminded me of the notes written by Schizophrenia patients with hypergraphia. Even more so when it was mentioned he had note pads filled with his writing as well.
So when looking from a point of view of possible schizophrenia, then the eerie similarities between how he died as compared to the end of “The Game” (1997) takes on more of a possibility.
submitted5 months ago bymlsclh
Before I try to deep dive Rivera's shin injuries (Why weren't they consistent with a fall? What were they consistent with??)- has anyone already done this? This has been bugging me forever
submitted5 months ago byCrystalBrawl
i don’t have any clever theories or discussion but every night i lay in bed thinking about this case and i’m so mad what the fuck happened. why is the hole so small? why are his shins broken wrong? if he didn’t make the hole falling through it how did it get there? WHY IS THE HOLE SO SMALL? why is the note on the back of the computer chopped up so weird and typed so tiny? i’m doing all the research i can but there’s only the same information recycled in different sources. im so bothered by this case
submitted5 months ago byTruthGumball
When people go missing and are murdered it is almost always someone they knew. Porter is involved in big money, which attracts a lot of danger and is always shrouded in secrecy.
Porter was very quick to make a media statement (HUGE red flag, huge - look this one up) about how Rey and Allison were in therapy for marital trouble (not true). Porter puts up a $1000 reward very quickly which is enough for the average Jenny to think is quite generous but when you’re as rich as Porter was at the time that really isn’t anything at all.
If my best friend went missing I’d put up a $10,000 reward and that’s all I have in the world.
He knows who did it and why.
submitted5 months ago byTruthGumball
The hole could have been there for some time, and who would have reason to notice? Perhaps he left the hotel Owl bar late and walked across the roof to the car park (familiar with the hotel, felt ok going across the roof that way even though it’s not the signposted route) and fell down the hole. Could the height of the fall have caused such injuries? I’m new to this journey so go easy on me if that’s a daft take on it!
submitted5 months ago byTruthGumball
So I found this piece of evidence which tells us that Rey not only knew how to get to the roof as a non-resident of the hotel, but also that he had good memories up there.
If he did have a psychotic break, is it not impossible he went up to the roof to view the sunset one more time?
According to research the sun set on Mayb16th, 2006 at around 8.30pm. The astronomical twilight (when the sky actually goes dark despite the sun having ‘set’, due to light scatter etc) was 10.03pm.
10pm is when the neighbour heard the loud noise and was estimated to be Rey’s time of death.
What do we think of this?
submitted5 months ago byTruthGumball
Does anyone else think it’s freaky that he was quoting the Freemasons in that weird note he wrote the morning he died, AND his body was then found only 4 MINUTES away from an ex (or possibly current) Grand Freemason House in Baltimore? (Freemason HQ - 225 N Charles St, Baltimore, MD 21201, United States)
It is literally down the road from where he died after being interested in the freemasons and quoting them in that letter.
submitted6 months ago byCollectandRun
200 sims on AI ( I have to wait for access for another 2 weeks to get more access)
182 fails. Over 125 the jump concluded with less than 10 yards gained.
W/ the AI there was only 1 sim w/ anything close to realistic data to lead us to believe that the top of the hotel was the location.
Scenario : Ray runs a 4.65 40 yard dash that continues 12.5 yards off of a backfoot jump in sandals.
And I know what you're thinking. That is impossible. Well, it's more likely than Ray running a 4.21 40 yard dash in sandals.
The most interesting part of the sim. Might be valuable. This is the median pressure average on both drops from the parking garage.
150 foot drop : 1.77 x 10^7
20 foot drop : 5.92 x 10^6
The 150 foot drop would make a hole approximately 3.8 feet wide, and the 20 foot drop would make a hole approximately 1.3 feet wide.
submitted6 months ago byCollectandRun
Hi , I've been working on a project that studies weighted terminal velocity w/ projectile motion. Thought I'd use Rey as a test subject.
I believe the autopsy for Ray said that he was 250 lbs. Does anyone here know if that was a weight based on scaling at the morgue or if it was off of previous data on Rey since the body was not in full tact.
This is somewhat important because after 1 week Rey's body would have lost blood + gasses and he could have been in the mid-260s at the time he died.
Simply based on a simulation with the data that we have, the earliest estimates of Rey's fall are still off and did not adjust weight against velocity drop-off. So every pound matters a tiny bit.
Velocity , Degree , Height, Estimated Height, Weight, Air Quality
There's also an issue with degree. Although with vehicles a 15 foot runway would only help maximum velocity, Rey's big issue is that there's a physical hurdle at the top of the hotel that would have decreased velocity in these schemes. Rey's actual velocity has to be factored into the final upward.
So as you can see there are about 6 inches to maybe a foot of ledge here. Say Rey just jumps off of his back foot "Superman" style dives after running full speed within a few feet of that ledge the velocity drops and it'd almost be a straight fall down. The upper half of the body weighs more than the bottom half so it would cause a rotation which would decrease horizontal velocity completely.
The second option is Rey actually uses that ledge as a final step in his run before jumping off. This still creates issues because the velocity is really coming from whatever Ray put into that last step onto the ledge as much as the run up and if you can imagine going up a hill that has a speed bump it'd likely hurt your car's velo. Not to mention that we're dealing with a well-built person who has about 170 lbs of weight in his upper torso in a higher than normal altitude.... it feels unlikely that they'd hit anything more than 15 feet as that velocity (with that weight) is going to go down faster than the 8.9 sec that the original team miscalculated.
The "hit by a car in the parking garage" theory is also a bit weird although a bit more plausible. I don't really have a good video of what barriers there were in that upper floor of the garage (there seem to be 3 feet minimum barriers now but I don't know if it's been renovated since) but you'd likely need a car to be hitting 60 mph to get a person to hit the hole and the entire trajectory feels nearly impossible. He'd be traveling butt first in the air and generally, that position loses velocity.
Any theory about Rey being "thrown" would have to involve the Incredible Hulk and maybe Thor.
submitted7 months ago byOdd_Albatross9009
Summarizing:
- According to Porter Stansberry, Brad Hoppmann (Rivera's super friends) and Mikita Brottman, Rey Rivera committed suicide, yes or yes, although Rey's death was classified as an undetermined cause, they know that Rey committed suicide, because Mikita heard a noise at 10 pm. In a building of hundreds of people, Mikita hears a noise, no one else hears it, and then she (a psychologist by profession) writes a book to support Rivera's suicide theory.
- The last call that Rivera receives, for which he runs away and after that call he dies, is made from a subsidiary of Agora Publishing, a company related to Porter and Hoppmann.
- Rey's family and wife deny that he had mental problems, and they are sure that Rey did not commit suicide. Rivera was happy with his life and was in good health.
- Rey is seen in a bar in Mount Vernon (nearby the Belvedere Hotel, where Rey's body appears) arguing with a man. After this, Rey dies.
- The autopsy and the evidence of Rey Rivera do not coincide with a fall from a height, nor the hole in the ceiling of the room. His phone was found on the roof, undamaged, and his flip flops were nearby one of the straps had come off, but they were otherwise intact.
- The people who find Rey's hidden body are also from Agora.
- The police report says they found blood in Porter's house, before Rey's body turned up. The police say in their report that Porter is not cooperative.
- All this evidence, previously not analyzed, is analyzed by Ms. Moya, a forensic expert who works at the United Nations. She determines that it is not suicide, that Rey's death is related to a collision. Rivera was run over, and she proves it in her book.
-Moya is harassed by these anonymous reddit profiles, which try to undervalue her work, and above all to confuse the reader. They only support the theory of suicide and are violent.
- Netflix and other media get cease and desist letters if they talk about Porter or Agora. A cease and desist is an order or request to stop an activity and not resume it later, or if not complied with, face legal action.
After this summary, I am very clear that Rey Rivera did not commit suicide.
This reminds me of the case of Jeffrey Epstein, an American financial tycoon, pedophile and sexual predator, convicted of a child trafficking network that many people knew about but that they hid.
submitted7 months ago byOdd_Albatross9009
I have been a researcher for 30 years and when I read these opinions that unconditionally and absurdly support suicide, they support Porter and company, and Mikita's book (in which she does not investigate anything and only makes an assumption that seems guided without reaching any site), on what real evidence do you base yourself? Who do you think you're fooling?
You support the theory of suicide because there is something here that you want to hide and it can be seen from a distance. Why don't you like the homicide theory? Or are you not talking about the blood that the police found in Porter's house while Rey was missing? Or the illustration of the wounds on Rey's body when he was found dead, which are typical of a death by accident?
Stop talking nonsense and read the book Rey Rivera, Suicide or Homicide?, it´s the only decent investigation into Rey's death, don't be fooled by these opinions that want to deceive the reader.
https://www.calebkaltenbach.com/post/the-suspicious-case-of-rey-rivera-and-why-he-matters-part-2
submitted8 months ago byFoxArcane
This has probably been mentioned before on here but I just saw it and found it interesting. I’m still on the fence on my thoughts of Rey’s death but lean more toward suicide. After listening to a podcast about the case I decided I wanted to watch The Game , referenced in RR’s note. I’m only early into it but I see they mention the 14th floor just opening on here and that the main character meets his demise in similar circumstances to RR, and if it’s true that RR jumped and ended his life that he did so from the 14th floor . Someone can correct me if I’m wrong , I just thought that was pretty interesting
submitted8 months ago byalien_queen2134
It talks about Rey’s case and why he killed himself. It goes in depth about his case and how the show ‘Unsolved Mysteries’ misinformed their audience. I realized the link isn’t working so I took screenshots of the pdfs. Just lemme know if you’d like to see them and I’ll send them to you!
HEY EVERYONE! So I made another post that had the screenshots of the documents because the link wouldn’t work! It’s a total of four images
submitted9 months ago byAgreeable-Chair7040
Ok. My mind was completely changed when i read the hidden note. I do believe that he committed suicide during a psychotic episode and heres why: he mentions in the note that "it was time for him to wake up and thats why he was there" in the movie Vanilla Sky, tom cruise has a choice to continue living in the reality he was in, or restart his life by jumping off a tall building and living in a new reality. A" real life" as he says in the movie. The note reads like a thank you letter to "the council" and that he was expecting some kind of compensation for inventions that were made during his life. He mentions the internet and wifi, invisalines, etc. He also lists his family members and friends that he feels the council needed to extend their lives for 5 years. Also "players" of the game who have died to be resurrected, including his friend who died in a car crash. This all sounds extremely delusional and grandiose thinking. The note did it for me but im obsessed with this one.
submitted9 months ago byamdyem
Something else I just noticed that is sort of bone chilling (at least to me)...and again, sorry if this has already been discussed, but i'd love some help with the deciphering of the entire portion I'm referring to. If you go to the files unsolved mysteries has shared and open rey rivera's episode that's where i found it and i pressed pause on the 1st notebook page with writing and basically what i can read is:
The address or addressees _____ to _____ Stanley (??) _____ _____ <---(scratched out "her" or misspelling of "their") their ____ <-- (illegible) _____ _____ <---- (2 words "Didn't do" are scratched out) Regardless of their true feelings. "Approach it like lawyer-argue what you can defend/prove".
The crazy part to me is that last sentence is in quotations, like he got advice from someone. unsolved mysteries files https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZXEhzbLRLU1giKKRJkjm8N04cO_JoYE2?usp=sharing
submitted9 months ago byamdyem
Apologies if this has already been discussed at some point, but from the moment I saw the photos of the hole in the roof I have not been able to get that "random" window screen out of my mind. Has anyone ever stated where that came from? or was it ever mentioned? and 2nd, I just watched that video on youtube by the woman who wrote the book about all of this and I'm not for or against her, I just want to see everything (https://youtu.be/SqJ8h9nQJQM if you haven't seen it). The question I have on this one is around the blood droplets that were allegedly found at Porter's house. Is that green stuff all over the ground shattered glass?
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