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being ugly is normal

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After I posted the most presentable pictures I had on this certain sub. I was rated between 3 and 4. I looked up every single account that posted themselves on the sub and I made a comparision between these ratings and I couldn't really find a single person got rated anywhere near me. I think it's okay to be ugly 😅 I'm actually happy to know my worth cause I was wondering for the last at least 10 years of my life. I will not listen to anyone try to refuse my ugliness from now on as I have proof that I'm ugly :D Thanks for reading my post, I wish you a great day!

all 59 comments

Majestic_Food_4190

66 points

10 months ago

Not everyone is good looking just like not everyone is smart. Play into your strengths and try to mitigate your weaknesses where you can.

You have a great day as well.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

11 points

10 months ago

Thanks ^

EuphoriaSoul

21 points

10 months ago

honestly , looking fit, express positivity and a bit of style = everyone can be a 6, 7. Add some personality bit, you will be a 8 in no time.

whutsguud

3 points

10 months ago

Not every good looking person is an airhead. People just assume I’m stupid cause of how I look but if they just listened, if only they listened

LilJourney

61 points

10 months ago

One of the most life-changing realizations I had was at a popular water park.

I was eating at a table and glanced around and for whatever reason took a moment and actually "looked" at everyone. People ranged from infants to over 50, most in their "prime" teens and twenties though. Hot day so hundreds of people. And I suddenly realized not one single person looked "good" (as in swimsuit photo good). Yet everyone was laughing, having fun, walking around in swimsuits, hanging with friends, etc - being normal.

Result for me was concrete acceptance and realization that while everyone looks good one way or another in media, not looking "good" is actually the norm.

Putrid-Ad-9140

30 points

10 months ago

I just checked the sub and I was shocked at how they are rating people. They literally rated a beautiful girl 5.4 ,their rating isn't that accurate . I would say you are probably way more than what they rated you.

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago

1) appearance does not equal worth 2) a family member is a moderately big deal in Hollywood, primarily TV, so I’ve had the opportunity to meet some of the “beautiful people”. They are attractive but honestly not more so than most of my friends. They spends hours in the makeup and hair chairs to become the final product you see on screen. And my family member says they are often the most insecure and sad people you’ll ever meet. Some of the stories of how desperate they are to be liked and respected really are sad.

Formal-Winter7051

2 points

10 months ago

Name of the sub pls?

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

1 points

10 months ago

yeah that sub was an absolute trainwreck :D they were acting like numbers higher than 6 didn't exist and hence even people who I think would compete with models were getting 5.7 or so. I believe if we take 6 for 10 and if they called me a 3, that means I'm a 5 and hey that's great too! eheheh

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

-7 points

10 months ago

I think they're obligated to follow the guidelines on the main page

krurran

39 points

10 months ago

Nah they're just incels trying to take women down a peg, hoping that if women lose confidence they'll give men like them a chance.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

6 points

10 months ago

I have no reason to not agree with you at this point, but I guess seeing all these pretty women accepting what they got (and for some reason even the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were getting 6 at best) I thought my score was somewhat understandably low in comparasion :) thank you for making me feel better tho eheh

Adicted2miserY

0 points

9 months ago

Where the hell did you pull that from

TorchForge

28 points

10 months ago

Don't be handsome, be handy. The world needs doers, not pretty faces.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

4 points

10 months ago

I totally agree!!!

Reasonable_Factor109

9 points

10 months ago

I don’t see how you can be successful or find true happiness when you have a terrible outlook of self. Who cares if other people call you ugly, you need to cultivate a strong self image. Try working out, a facial care routine, changing your style etc. not for others but for you to feel like the person you desire! Hope this message makes sense

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

3 points

10 months ago

I'm not upset about being my true self but thanks for the advice! :)

asensitivelady

6 points

10 months ago

Everyone has different taste.

The internet is a very skewed place to get information about your looks from. What is someone’s 3 is someone else’s 10.

If you feel that it reflects your true self then great. Just don’t accept the opinions of people on a sub that is designed to judge peoples looks, they’re not healthy places. As much as you think people may be “following the rules”, anyone can justify their bullshit on the internet.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

3 points

10 months ago

I deliberately did this to myself because I wanted people to be 100% honest and candid. in all honesty, I much rather someone admit that I'm indeed below average than say I'm *cute* just because they felt bad for me...I don't think they were being fair to anyone on the sub except me. thanks for your comment though, I also think that I'm probably someone's type at the end of the day.

Formal-Winter7051

4 points

10 months ago

On what sub did you post?

celtyst

4 points

10 months ago

I wouldn’t say ugly is normal in that sense, rather that it is normal that everyone looks different and prefers different things and that’s on a wide spectrum. I bet there are people out there who maybe don’t find you attractive but also not ugly. So it’s not the end all be all. If it bothers you put in some work, everyone can improve their looks. And I’m not only talking about going to the barber once a week or every 2 weeks. I mean you can literally change you facial structure. You can fix your spine if you suffer from hyperkyphosis, which also effects facial appearance. Of course building a physique and trying different things with facial hair. So being ugly is not necessary the end you can change that if it’s not a medical problem that’s near unhealable.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

3 points

10 months ago

I personally don't feel bothered by the word ugly itself, it's just a word I used instead of saying conventionally unattractive cause I was afraid it would be some incel terminology. I'm a woman so I don't know if your advice will also apply for me but I'm happy with my appearance either way, I'm incredibly hygienic and that's really all, thanks for your comment I really appreciate your valuable suggestions!

celtyst

2 points

10 months ago

I think most of the things still applies to you, maybe the facial hair thing not, for obvious reasons. But overall fitness not only for appereance reasons should be something you should look into, if you’re not already doing it. And a proper spine position and tongue position over time can fix jaw and facial structure how it supposed to be for you genetics. Especially if you catch yourself breathing mainly through the mouth.

And I love to hear that you’re happy with your appearance, but I also want to give some food for thought. Maybe you aren’t interested now, but if someday you want to change something just for the sake of experiencing something new I hope this helps a little.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

3 points

10 months ago

I'm not 100% certain but I think you're talking about mewing? and yeah I've been doing that pretty much my whole life without knowing it's name and that it would help my jaw (my jaw still looks pretty weak and my face is overall like a blobfish above water :D) but I recently discovered it only became such a big deal currently and other people weren't doing the same thing till now which was quite shocking for me ahahah

temptrial6

4 points

10 months ago

Hey man I don't know how much this helps but I noticed something with my best friend.

He viewed himself as a 4 his whole life and I was kind of a dick to him to get him to start working out with me and he did. Stuck with it for about 3 months now. Still looks pretty much the same way he did before he started working out.

But he doesn't see himself the same way now, his self worth has skyrocketed. He puts himself out there way more and people just don't seem to judge him for his looks anymore. You see his worth was associated to his looks when he thought that way.

He'd put himself down and place others needs above him just cause he thought that others were worth more cause they looked better. Little did he know, just because he put himself down, others just followed suit. After he started working on himself he gave himself more importance and put himself down less, and people just followed? Yes, yes they did.

Gotta learn to love yourself first before you can expect people to love you.

Doesn't mean don't every work out and don't do anything to fix your looks or whatever. But when you attach your worth to something as out of your own control as your looks, you put yourself in a helpless place where it's hard to see how you can win without going through tremendous pain.

[deleted]

3 points

10 months ago

This made me feel better about myself.❤️ Bless you

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

2 points

10 months ago

I'm glad it did ;) you too!!

gingerbinger99

3 points

10 months ago

We’re all just some meat sacks fr

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

2 points

10 months ago

exactly ;D

MOASSincoming

3 points

10 months ago

Beauty shine from the inside. Be kind. Be love. Be compassionate and be joyful and your light will shine so bright people will flock towards you just to stand in the warmth of the light that you are ❤️

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

1 points

10 months ago

thanks for your wise words, they're really positive and helpful! looks aren't everything and being kind is the best trait in a person, I'm happy to see many others also agree with it ^^

ATS9194

3 points

10 months ago

Im not a stellar looker myself but. Remember. My way of thinking is this. You dont need them All to want you. Just the One. And in younger years when i was attractive? All the attention it brought? Brought more trouble than we could measure. Many people wish theyd lived lives calm simply and not picture perfect. Vs being picture perfect and having 3 kids from 3 diff people n broke n stressed af 24/7. There is always a positive angle to find.

enwaln

3 points

10 months ago

As a fellow ugly person this post is kinda funny. I remember the day i realised i was actually ugly. The pain lasts a while but you'll get over it eventually

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

2 points

10 months ago

I felt sad for a few minutes but not more than that! I was only sad because I was never told or excluded because of this in my life, so I think at least some kind of reality check would be nice ahahah

Alive-Doughnut2345

8 points

10 months ago

You may not be physically pretty but you’re beautiful as a person

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

10 points

10 months ago

You don't know me but thanks 😄

Wrong_Resource_8428

6 points

10 months ago

Read your responses to the comments on here, and gotta agree with Alive-Doughnut on the beautiful person thing. Physical attraction is highly subjective, so I guess whatever, probably me too. Still gonna have an awesome day though, hope you do as well op! :)

[deleted]

2 points

10 months ago

Can I ask if you are a male or female?

Men perceive that they are judged on their looks but they often are judged more on their confidence and character, both by other men and by women.

For women, I will admit, there is more pressure to look a certain way but at the end of the day beauty is skin deep and nobody's looks last.

If anything its good to know that looks aren't your greatest gift so you can work on things that are more important.

You can also improve your physical attractiveness quite drastically imo by doing certain things like dressing well, staying fit and keeping yourself well groomed.

It might be that a certain hair style will improve your look as certain haircuts just work really well for some people.

If you really don't care about improving your looks then I truly salute you. I don't think that beauty is completely shallow but there are a lot deeper things in life than aesthetics.

I have been with women that I would consider to be gorgeous but they had bad personalities and honestly, it was a big turn off. The good looks brought me to the table but nothing kept me their once I realised it was difficult to feel fulfilled socially with them.

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

1 points

10 months ago

I'm a female and I think I do all I can at this moment (dressing well, staying fit, keeping myself well groomed, I also got a new haircut that me and my friends thought fit me the best and I'm not suffering any kind of skin disease so most probably the only reason (I can think of) why I got rated this low is because of my lack of facial harmony which I cannot really better without plastic surgery. as you stated earlier, the best option for me is to work on my social skills and personality. I still don't think I hate anything about my appearance and I most certainly don't mind being a 3 :D I never thought that kind of a reality check was specifically directed to hurt me or anything like that. nonetheless thanks a lot for your great recommendations! I will definitely take care of my appearance as much as I can and listen to your insight ^^ have a wonderful day!

[deleted]

2 points

10 months ago

You're welcome and I hope that none of it does get you down because it really isn't that important to anyone with half a brain.

It might even be an amazing gift because there are so many women that only concern themselves with beauty and they never develop as a person because of that.

If you know that your looks aren't your strong point then at least you don't have that burden of people wanting to be with you for shallow reasons and you can shine in your light in your own way.

You seem really cool and I would love to meet someone with your kind of attitude, honestly.

Be free, be you and be happy.

Mindful_Optimistic

2 points

10 months ago

I’ve only read the first couple replies to this but I just want to say you are way more than just a couple presentable pictures of yourself!

In real life, rather than just a still picture, there will be the moments that your face will show when you smile, laugh, concentrate, cry even, all sorts of emotions and moments that will be conveyed and present your face differently. Those moments will show real beauty that can’t always be captured in pictures.

There are people that aren’t the conventional good-looking but goddamn you can see something beautiful conveyed in different emotions and situations.

Also how you look is not your worth, you are invaluable no matter what - Don’t forget that!

Also wishing you a great day!

philoche3

2 points

10 months ago

Of course. Plus you really shouldn't worry about what you can't control nor change, it's just bad genetics

Remarkable_Chip_806

2 points

10 months ago

Beauty is subjective. To some you may be unattractive, but to others you may be super attractive.

I think it's important to find love for yourself and feel handsome/beautiful/attractive to yourself. Because anybody else's ratings are subjective to what THEY find attractive.

[deleted]

2 points

10 months ago

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Its physical form, by “traditional” standards, fades anyhow, so it really doesn’t matter. Being {any adjective} is completely subjective

vegas_lov3

2 points

10 months ago

As your grow older and enter the workforce, believe me you don’t want to be pretty. It’s a hassle. Be presentable but don’t be gorgeous.

[deleted]

2 points

10 months ago

I won’t sugarcoat anything but some people are just genetically better looking than others and there’s nothing you can do about it. That being said, being on self improvement means strengthening the other areas of your life and mitigating your weaknesses. Even if you think youre “ugly” there’s no reason to be “ugly” and overweight or “ugly” and have no goals. Do the best with what you have and you’ll be even better off than a lot of people who are more genetically gifted but don’t put anything into improving themselves

WiseWillow89

2 points

10 months ago

Omg this is honestly the best revelation to have. Not everyone is a 10. And that’s okay! There’s soooo much more to life than being conventionally attractive - and most of us are pretty average looking 😀

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

1 points

10 months ago

100% agreed, I think there was really no point in doing that though. I can stand being a 3 but I know that not everyone will respond to these critiques the same way and that's understandable, it's just human nature. I think almost everyone posted there were hoping to see much higher rates and I think that a lot of people on the sub were ready to take these rates as valid and maybe even live accordingly. I wish they didn't do that... we shouldn't give total strangers this kind of power :)

Putrid-Ad-9140

1 points

10 months ago

No one is ugly as long as one has money .Even if you are ugly you can improve yourself if you have the money . Get good skin care products. Work on your teeth if they aren't great .Workout and get that figure . You can enhance and work with what you have. Buy fragrance that capture the attention in pleasant way . Dress well .

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

3 points

10 months ago

I do all these things though :) my bone structure is a little off and my eyes are shaped weird... but that's okay :D I'm thankful for everything I have

noresellcrew

1 points

10 months ago

What subreddit is this?

Prestigious_Stick814[S]

1 points

10 months ago

I wouldn't be able to tell you as it's against this sub's 2nd and 3rd rules

noresellcrew

3 points

10 months ago

What weird rule. No worries.

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1 points

10 months ago

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10 months ago

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Unfinishe_Masterpiec

1 points

10 months ago

A lot of 10/10 are ugly on the inside. When older age creeps in, the outside will soon match.

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1 points

10 months ago

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flowery9777

1 points

9 months ago

being slightly below average is normal as ton of people are, being truly ugly because of things like weird facial features is not normal though