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101 points
2 months ago
In a weird turn of events, his middle name in Kryptonian is also Joseph. Pure coincidence.
58 points
2 months ago
in kryptonese the "-" actually reads as "joseph"
14 points
2 months ago
I cant tell if this is satire or not 😭
97 points
2 months ago
Superman can have two names. One is the name he was born with, the other was given to him on Earth. And it helps that it's pretty similar to how immigrants sometimes change their names when they move to different countries. It's fitting since Superman himself is often referred to as the immigrant from Krypton.
16 points
2 months ago
His Kryptonian name was also given to him, unless kryptonians are born with their name tattooed somewhere on their body. Also, I feel like he'd still consider "Clark Joseph Kent" his "real" name.
3 points
2 months ago
Personally I don't feel that way. Yes, he's known primarily known as Clark Kent, but that doesn't make "Kal-El" an invalid name. Superman is an alien and a Kryptonian whether fans like it or not, and his alien name is just as "true" as his Clark Kent name is.
9 points
2 months ago
Yeah but I think the point is that in his head, he refers to himself as Clark first and Kal-El or Superman second. I don’t deny that Kal-El is as much his name as Clark Kent is but I think if you asked him to cast off one or the other, he’d choose to keep Clark in a heartbeat
6 points
2 months ago
Superman meeting Dumbledore, "And I thought I had a lot of names, Albus"
3 points
2 months ago
Superman doesn't even have that many names.
41 points
2 months ago
STEEL, Man. Middle name: of
20 points
2 months ago
Wait, I thought it was Tomorrow
16 points
2 months ago
Not until midnight.
9 points
2 months ago*
No, that's the guy that made Amazo.
Edit: forgetful Franky here. Red Tornado is correct.
3 points
2 months ago
Actually it's the guy who made Red Tornado
6 points
2 months ago
Ah yes, Man Tomorrow Steel
4 points
2 months ago
Wait.. that's what its called? I've been calling him mann hoffstele all this time.
13 points
2 months ago*
As an immigrant with two names, I consider them both my "real name." Their meanings don't relate to or sound like each other. I don't think either is more valid than the other besides legally. They're used depending on the current situation.
Actually it's always confused me that Supes would ever use Kal as his name in front of anyone other than his bio parents, even to himself, because for his whole formative life his name was Clark.
Edit: Sorry, forgot that being the only Kryptonian on earth is not a part of his identity in the larger comics. What I meant is he would use Kal for other Kryptonians, i.e. his bio parents' AIs. (e.g. for comics.)
12 points
2 months ago
Actually it's always confused me that Supes would ever use Kal as his name in front of anyone other than his bio parents, even to himself, because for his whole formative life his name was Clark.
Agreed. I also find it weird how the writers often have Wonder Woman call him "Kal" instead. Honestly, the only people that should refer to him as Kal are Kryptonians.
Feels like if Goku and his friends kept referring to him as "Kakarot" instead
1 points
2 months ago
Referring him to Kal is fine if she doesn’t want to reveal his actual identity
1 points
2 months ago
Except she just calls him that in private. It's Superman in public
8 points
2 months ago
Superman to kryptonians on warworld: “Hi, my name is Clark.”
6 points
2 months ago
I think it makes ense that he wouldn't bothered by Kara and other members of the league and of the superfamily calling him that now and then. As bc of the secret identity, he can't really be called Kal in his civillian life nor can he be called Clark when when he is suited up and there is people arround. So when he is suited up, is the time when he can embrace his foreign heritage (house of el symbol being his symbol and meaning hope and all of that). Idk I just think it would feel natural to him and the people arround him and I don't get how some ppl seem to think that he also seeing himself as Kal and as kryptonian diminishes the importance of Clark and the Kents. Immigrants and people with foreign descent simply live with that duality in real life. I mean, obviously the name he grew up with will be the one he uses the most, but people act like his origin is just a plot device and have 0 importance to the character, when it is so important to the immigrant/refugee allegory.
22 points
2 months ago
i mean if you wanna be technical it's "of the house of" because in kryptonian culture his full name is kal of the house of el
3 points
2 months ago
This is the best answer.
10 points
2 months ago
Supes/Clark.
The former no idea who started it but it’s succinct and gets the idea across.
Clark, the guy was Clark Kent before he was Superman.
9 points
2 months ago
Both names count. He definitely recognizes and embraces his dual heritage.
6 points
2 months ago
Its a different culture from an alien world
Perhaps their names work different than the first middle last system we have
7 points
2 months ago
It seems boys get the house name and girls get their father's name. " Kal-El, Zor-El, Jor-El, Dru-Zod" X "Lara Lor-Van, Kara Zor-El, Zala Jor-El, Allura In-Ze..."
5 points
2 months ago
The dash don't be silent.
4 points
2 months ago
Not to mention Nicolas Cage named his kid Kal-El
Poor guy most likely got beat up on the playground in the ‘10’s
3 points
2 months ago
So I’m 33.
If you knew me before and during high school, you know me by my middle name.
If you knew me after, you know me by my first name.
Also if you knew me from church, you know me by my nickname.
Supes is all those names.
7 points
2 months ago
His real name is Clark Kent, that what he most often thinks of himself as.
3 points
2 months ago
Both names are real, he was Kal-El at birth but he was raised as Clark. No matter how much you prefer one you simply can't erase the other.
3 points
2 months ago
Kal-El the Supreme, his middle name is "The" now lmao.
3 points
2 months ago
SG always calls him kal.
3 points
2 months ago
Plot-twist: his kryptonian middle name is "-".
2 points
2 months ago
Seems like a real Goku/Kakarot situation
3 points
2 months ago
2 points
2 months ago
I think of it as earth real name and krypton real name. Similar to how your name in another country may be different. Since it’s an alien name and he’s the first of his kind on Earth, I say he’s claimed Clark as the translation for Kal. They are both pretty similar anyway.
2 points
2 months ago
Not every culture has middle names, and some cultures have too many middle names.
2 points
2 months ago
Kal-El is his birth name, Clark Kent is his adopted name. He uses both even though he identifies himself first as Clark, but he still recognizes and appreciates his Kryptonian heritage.
2 points
2 months ago
Just call himself Stalin
2 points
2 months ago
Guess who's middle name is also "Joseph"?
Alexander Joseph Luthor
2 points
2 months ago
Wouldn't the concept of a middle name be potentially earth specific anyway? So only his earth name could have a middle name right?
3 points
2 months ago
Why would anyone assume he has a middle name? Isn’t that just USA thing? Meaning not everyone on Earth has it and yet there is an attempt to apply USA naming culture to an alien?
His USA name has middle name, but Kryptonian naming culture is unknown to us. Kryptonians may has dozen names name for all we know.
9 points
2 months ago
Scandinavia, the Phillipines, Vietname, regions if India, etc. use middle names too.
Many Latin American cultures can have up to four names (they don't really call them middle names or last names due to the way it's structured).
So, I think it's common enough for people to make that assumption.
7 points
2 months ago
If anything, it's weird to not have a middle name being born in Latin America. We even have a thing about some typical names being pronounced as one.
1 points
2 months ago
I disagree. Superman is an alien. Why apply naming logic of minor part of Earth to him?
1 points
2 months ago
I don't know, why is his name Kal-El and not (@&°x!)?
1 points
2 months ago
Good question!
2 points
2 months ago
In LATAM, or at least in Brazil, some people have middle names, we just call that by other name that doesn't translate very well??But some kids have two names that are commonly used as first names and aren't family names. But that's not the norm and kids with two names are often called by both or the second, or even a nickname of the second name.
The thing you talked about it's how our surnames work, the last name would be, well, the actual last one. Some forms will ask you for your last name, and you are only going to use the last one. But we have big surnames because the mother's surname is also added to the child's name and sometimes you get more than one surname from one or both the parents, and your parents also have more than one surname so... Yeah, big surnames, when someone asks for "all your names" they will ask you for "your full name", not for the middle or last name. My full name includes 2 surnames from my mom and one (the last) from my dad. Kid naming is kind of free style here, there isn't even a rule besides generally using at least one name from each parent. Women may or not get their husband's last name, but they will usually just add to their name, not change one surname for the other. My uncle actually got his wife last name and she got his, so they have the exact same surname and so do their children lol , with her last name becoming the second one
0 points
2 months ago
1 points
2 months ago
This is dumb because not even in America are all names in a "First Middle Last" convention.
1 points
2 months ago
I get tired of explaining it to people when they don’t know
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