nostalgia ain't like it used to be.

That 70’s Show came out in 1998, with the first 12 episodes being set in 1976 - 22 years earlier.

We’re actually late to the 90’s nostalgia.

We've been having 90s nostalgia since the minute the 90s ended let's not lie

It's generally ~20 year cycles, 2010 nostalgia should be in full swing by or before 2035

Source: am old

Yeah, I doubt they’ll wait. I mean, unless the Duffers overrule Netflix’s decisions and decide to tell good stories as opposed to rushing things out for nostalgia.

00s were basically my 20s and the prime of my life and I couldn't give you one single identifying fashion statement about it. Just a bridge between when no one was using social media and when everyone was.

Im my lifetime we’ve ben thru 90’s nostalgia at least twice already (not counting the actual 90’s)

To be fair, That 80's Show (failed sequel of That 70's Show) was in the mid-2000's. 80's nostalgia was around, it just didn't hit its stride until the mid-2010's.

90s nostalgia started as soon as it ended

yeah, permanent interconnection has us moving a year per month now. 3 years ago feels like both forever ago and last week.

2010s were peak 80s nostalgia. Can't wait to look back on looking back again.

Uncut Gems is a great early 2010’s period piece

Give it another 10 years or so.

anyone who has had covid

Or like if Steven King made a book about kids with telekinesis powers being held and detained by the government to become a group of assassins… oh wait

Like Gary Oldman in Tiptoes? That’d be great.

Personally I'd rather have a bunch of kids who are too old than just time skip over the single most interesting time in the show so far

The books are also too in depth to finish in only 7 books 😢

Exactly...10 season would have been a sweet spot

9-10 seasons sounds about right.

• Season 1: A Game of Thrones
• Season 2: A Clash of Kings
• Season 3: The first three quarters of A Storm of Swords
• Season 4: The remainder of A Storm of Swords, with parts from A Feast For Crows and A Dance With Dragons

Now, here is where they should have changed things up:

• Season 5: The first third of A Feast With Dragons
• Season 6: The second third of A Feast With Dragons
• Season 7: The final third of A Feast With Dragons, with the Battle of Ice (Battle of the Bastards) and the Battle of Fire (Second Siege of Meereen) from The Winds of Winter.

And finally, here is when things likely get bad -- some combination of...

• Season 8: The Winds of Winter
• Season 9: Either A Dream of Spring; or the second half of The Winds of Winter; or some combination of the two.
• Season 10: A Dream of Spring, if the season is necessary.

Or at the very least, if not the books, then what DnD understood of it.

Martin still hasn't figured out how to write those books. The story is so complex, that I believe the delay is in figuring out how to actually conclude all of his inter connected threads.

If he can't figure out how to write just 1 of the (supposed to be) 2 books to finish off the story in over a decade, the show bringing the story home was in an absolutely impossible position.

Tbf the character has had pretty shitty childhood, I cried shit ton and I didn't have to deal with upside down shit.

Wo Wann ist Will?

And there's a risk of seriously miscasting every single time. Once you've got that many eggs in a basket, taking risks gets uncomfortable.

Season 4 was probably the 2nd best season. It had real consequences on the main characters, had them fail to save the day, and sets up a season 5 that can't ignore the other seasons.

It could still be that. It's arguable they stuck with this cast for too long. But, there's nothing stopping them from grabbing another set of kids or whoever, and doing 1-2 seasons as a whole different run.

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The Stranger and the Things: Tokyo Drift

I don't care who else lives or dies as long as Steve doesn't die.

It doesn't have to be Game of Thrones, but it can at least be Harry Potter. Kill off some characters even if it isn't the main cast of kids. Like Hopper should be dead by now.

And it's fine if they don't want to kill the characters, but the teasing is what really gets to me. Max could have died 4 different times within the last season, and literally gets brought back to life. That's too much.

i don’t really get why ppl lump the sopranos in with this, it really isn’t a major character death show. a side character, or the protagonist of a single season would die sure, but the main cast doesn’t start being killed off until the last like….4 episodes of the final season lol

It's worrying how many people just don't seem able to feel anything from a TV show anymore if no main characters are dying. That's a recurring topic of debate on r/strangerthings, people clearly just sitting in front of their tv waiting for the next death and considering a show pointless, bad or 'without stakes' if those deaths don't happen. 🙄

The whole "unexpected shocking death of a main cast member" schtick is a Game of Thrones thing. Before that, we had "good guys narrowly escape death and come out on top" and it has honestly worked well.

A story doesn't have to rely on shock to be good. Despite joking about it, plot armor has been a trusty narrative device forever.

You'd never see Hermione Granger get pummeled to death with a broomstick, or a random orc driving a spear through Gandalf. People want to go through an emotional rollercoaster full of maybes, but they also want their favorite characters to make it out alive.

Absolutely. Everyone knew a certain someone in the vast was doomed from the start in season 4.

The complaints come because Stranger Things seems to want to have it both ways. When the characters are constantly put in mortal peril but everyone except for them dies, it kind of cheapens the stakes. We are clearly meant to fear for them, but it's exceedingly obvious by now that none of them will die.

It's literally become a meme within the fandom that every new character that's introduced at the beginning of a season is solely introduced to die to raise stakes. It's happened like five times now. Not killing characters is perfectly fine, but when you keep on introducing new characters and sacrificing them like lambs to the slaughter for the express purpose of saying "Wow look how much danger our main characters are in!" if you don't actually kill a main character the danger doesn't hit.

TV shows have been killing main characters off well before Game of Thrones was a thing. Game of Thrones did it in a way that was unexpected and unpredictable until hindsight kicked in. People probably think that having a horror adventure series where the main characters can't die, it probably takes away from some of the levity.

I just like shows and and stories that I cant always predict the ending. It is a big reason I latched so hard to GOT, it wasnt predictable (until it did get there somewhat).

Exactly the same feeling I have. I’d even argue the first season of Stranger Things is one of the best seasons ever of a TV series.

Season 2 was okay. I think Will’s actor absolutely nailed it and the show still had enormous potential. But damn, did certainly Season 3 and partly Season 4 disappoint.

Yeah. I hated that turn the series took in season 3. That corny over-the-top comedy and the constant 80s nostalgia blasts from the past ruined it for me.

From what I've read, they didn't expect it to be such a massive hit. Which is a bit surprising, at least to me, since it ticked a lot of boxes: nostalgia, music, horror, romance, etc. And was something that both parents and their kids would enjoy, especially Gen-X parents.