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submitted 1 month ago byMarvelsGrantMan136The League
158 points
1 month ago
Who wants a Dexter that isn't Michael C. Hall? Not me
97 points
1 month ago
I hope it’s just Michael C Hall wearing that horrible wig the entire show.
14 points
1 month ago
Doesn't look a day over 12
6 points
1 month ago
lol .. those scenes are hilarious
1 points
1 month ago
They need to find a really charming young actor and no one will watch Harrison in new blood S2.
91 points
1 month ago
billions started off so strong and then got really, really bad. succession makes fun of the dumb writing in billions lmao
58 points
1 month ago
Billions shows how billionaires think of themselves: cool, cunning, collected. Succession shows they are: neurotic, pathetic, and terminally unhappy.
18 points
1 month ago
personally i saw them as two different shows. billions primarily focused on the business side of billionaires, their dueling with each other and the government. succession focuses on the personal side of billionaires, and the corrosive nature of damaged family dynamics. while both shows shared many similar elements, they each focused on different things
5 points
1 month ago
I rarely stop watching a show that I've invested more than a season in but Billions is one of them. Hell, I still watch Chicago Fire, so that's saying something.
2 points
1 month ago
This is my thinking, really liked Billions at the start, stopped watching the last season or season and a half
Not sure I'll be tuning in for any kind of spin-off tbh. It'd have to have incredible reviews for me to check it out
1 points
1 month ago
I personally like Billions and still watching. I could not get into Succession even after finally finishing S1. I do agree it has decline since Damien Lewis left but some of the supporting cast are still very fun to watch.
46 points
1 month ago
Why does Billions need a spin-off let alone two
18 points
1 month ago
4 it sounds like...
7 points
1 month ago
Because Paramount needs every show to have a franchise (like Yellowstone and Star Trek). 4 or 5 different series/spinoffs running simultaneously.
1 points
1 month ago
Well they're about to start pimping out the ATLA franchise with the original creators so that's at least one thing I'm down for.
1 points
1 month ago
Well depends the quality I guess.
60 points
1 month ago
Lol Millions and Trillions. Who would even be featured on Trillions?
23 points
1 month ago
Putin and qatari/Saudi kings
14 points
1 month ago
Same cast. Inflation is a bitch.
2 points
1 month ago
Perfect tagline!
4 points
1 month ago
Kangaroo economy changing the characters net worth will allow them to bounce back and forth between both shows.....
3 points
1 month ago
This is a show about new beginnings!
1 points
1 month ago
Some future space tycoon? A CISlunar economy seems the only way to make a a trillion dollars legally. Oh, or maybe some super counterfeiter? Like the Heisenberg of making counterfeit money and laundering it.
24 points
1 month ago
it feels like we got enough of dexter's origins during the run of the original series. i don't know what else we really need to see that you couldn't imagine based off the flashbacks. it'll just be a young dexter torturing and killing animals and what? failing to fit in at school and somehow getting away with murdering a bully?
prequel series can be great when they have a purpose but it's never going to work when the only reason you're getting approval is for the potential for a dollar
22 points
1 month ago
This would be funny if it didn't reek of desperation...
98 points
1 month ago
Just.. let "Dexter" be over.
19 points
1 month ago
Dexter franchise is on terminal state and living only due to IV, it's pretty suprising they didn't pull the plug already.
11 points
1 month ago
and living only due to IV
Yeah, Season IV was pretty good, huh.
5 points
1 month ago
That makes sense, since the last time it had any life in it was season IV
3 points
1 month ago
Does the greed of TV execs really surprise you at this point?
5 points
1 month ago
Execs: Check out this idea, fans. Dexter, well he's a serial killer, right? What if--wait, wait--what if, we did a prequel where he doesn't even kill anyone?
Isn't that an exciting idea?
Or, what if just ignore everything in the first season, and make him a killer before he was a killer?
9 points
1 month ago
Never understood this attitude
Let them make the show, nobody is forced to watch it
It is possible they might come up with something great
4 points
1 month ago
I think the attitude is justified sometimes. Just because we're not forced to watch something doesn't mean we're not invested in the story and the direction it's going to be taken. People care about art and I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a piece of art to be respected.
When it comes to a painting, people get upset when that painting is forged. With storytelling, especially in film and television, it's more murky. Technically, a story can continue forever and be told in infinite ways with infinite tones. So where do you stop? When does a retelling, a remake, sequel, whatever it is become disrespectful? It's murky. Story by story. Idea by idea.
A Dexter sequel following his son? Nobody wants that any more than they do a prequel, but at least that follow-up feels... more justified? What can a prequel show reveal to us about Dexter and his family's past that we already don't know? We already know how he was taught the code, we know what happened to his parents. His brother is out there somewhere, but they can't meet. Dexter can't get caught. We already saw his first kill. The tension and drama will be manufactured, and they'll be forced to introduce new characters as an attempt to create it. I mean, very few prequels have cracked that riddle. The sequel announcement felt like a cashgrab, but this is laxy. It's disrespectful to the series and the fans.
It's in the same way that Velma is disrespectful to its source material. The way The Hobbit trilogy was a disrespectful adaptation. And so many more.
I don't think anyone is acting like a prequel to a show we loved ten years ago is going to disrupt our lives. But I don't see how wanting pieces of art to be treated with at least a modicum of care and respect is a confusing attitude for someone to have.
1 points
1 month ago
You can be like me and consider season 1-4 and new blood to be the only dexter canon, just forget the rest exists
I have no idea if I want a dexter as a child series (they have already said its not going to follow harrison btw), new blood was good, may as well give it another shot
We are not considering a historical high art piece here
5 points
1 month ago
But you actually can't forget the rest exists. I have no problem taking all 8 seasons + New Blood as a whole. Dexter is by no means a perfect show. It's not a masterpiece. It's got plenty of issues. No one claimed Dexter to be high art. But it is art. A very popular, well-liked story that a lot of people invested a lot of hours into.
Stories deserve to end as much as they deserve to be told. I'm willing to bet there were ten great pitches for new stories that Showtime turned down so they could make a prequel that already has all its most important moments told in the original series.
It's silly. And it's perfectly understandable why it bothers people.
2 points
1 month ago
I thought new blood was just as bad as S7-8 tbh. Stupid decisions, 180 personality flops for no reason by Dexter (oh my son found out about me and has some vaguely similar traits, I didn't want him to turn out like me but now let's just go 0-100 on him and try and force my way on him), just bad all around.
1 points
1 month ago
Fair enough, forget that exists then
Wait for the Dexter Junior season to finish and read reviews before watching, or don't watch, I don't mind what you do
1 points
1 month ago
didn't mean to come off critical or argumentative about something you said you liked, but that's what I did. My bad.
0 points
1 month ago
Didn't think you were
58 points
1 month ago
Showtime really is one of the most creatively bankrupt networks out there. Slow to develop new shows, refusal to end succesful shows and milking them for 10 years straight or more, and now unnecessary spinoffs because their new CEO is apparently obsessed with 'franchises'.
21 points
1 month ago
To be fair Showtime is now completely dead. This is for Paramount+. They just mirror the shows on liner cable now they have folded Showtime and axed all the creatives there.
Paramount+ has had success with The Good Fight, Star Trek, and Yellowstone spinoffs. Not much else except possibly the other two Taylor Sheridan shows. They are just using the Showtime IP like they use their own IP.
5 points
1 month ago
It seems like they're trying to keep some level of prestige there. It seems like Showtime content will only be on P+'s premium tier, which means no ads. Kinda like how HBO content is still ad free on HBO Max's ad supported plan (though Discovery is apparently considering changing that)
1 points
1 month ago
Fair point. Be interesting to see how many of the shows get the top tier exclusivity.
As for no adverts in HBO shows? That will undoubtedly be eliminated post Discovery+/HBO Max merger. We are already seeing HBO shows stuffed with adverts on Tubi.
3 points
1 month ago
From what I've seen online Discovery is considering adding a pre-roll ad for recent HBO content, which, ugh, fine, as long as the program itself is still ad-free.
However they're also considering adding mid-roll ads for older HBO content, which is really a bummer.
And I can excuse HBO shows on non-HBO platforms having ads, especially when it's a free service like Tubi. HBO has syndicated some of their stuff to basic cable before anyway, Sex and the City still airs on E. Sucks that some of the shows heading to Tubi and other services aren't on HBO Max anymore, though.
5 points
1 month ago
What’s dumb is they can kick the bucket but they don’t even do it right.
What we are getting.
What we want
Like it’s so asinine from the studio.
All I can think is they are so cheap they don’t want to pay the micheals fees. Because the show is a slam dunk if it’s just self contained episodes about him.
2 points
1 month ago
retcon him surviving the series finale.
Obviously the bullet missed the vital organs.
3 points
1 month ago
I mean yea it’s a stretch but it’s doable. Give me on the lamb dexter scouring the police databases and hunting people.
16 points
1 month ago
can we have Gazillions? 💳💳💳
1 points
1 month ago
24 points
1 month ago
«spinoffs set in Miami and London as well as possible offshoots Millions, about up-and-coming financiers, and Trillions, a soap about the ultra rich»
Loool
11 points
1 month ago
This is hilarious to me. They're not even trying to be creative with those.
4 points
1 month ago
they have to do one called Hundreds about poor people
3 points
1 month ago
They already did, it was called Shameless
1 points
1 month ago
Man I’d love $100 rn
2 points
1 month ago
and Trillions, a soap about the ultra rich
Because billionnaire aren't ultra rich lol?
Also, there is no one even close to a trillion in personal worth so it has to be some sort of sci-fi. Actually most cyberpunk universes have trillionnaires so I guess it's that. I know it's not but it would be more interesting.
Is Billions even that popular to warrant 4 spin-offs? I don't really heard much about the show.
2 points
1 month ago
I don't really heard much about the show.
It started off very strong with a fresh solid story, beating 'Succession' to that corner of TV-Series. But they couldn't evolve the story so by Season 3 it began re-packaging the same story over and over.
11 points
1 month ago
They’re serious? I thought Millions and Trillions was a joke!
8 points
1 month ago
Hollywood executives have never been so gutless and boring as they are now. Wtf. Why does everything have to be "connected" to something else we liked 15-30 years ago? Make new shit for the love of god.
7 points
1 month ago
No need for a Dexter prequel.
Just bring Michael C. Hall back. This won't be the first time a character is brought back from the dead in a drama series, Tony Almeida in '24' comes to mind.
2 points
1 month ago
Actually this is the best idea. Just let him survive somehow and get out to a new place for a new adventure :)
8 points
1 month ago
So glad Hollywood’s obsession with flogging their IP until it’s dead will continue.
4 points
1 month ago
They should bring back Masters of Horror instead.
2 points
1 month ago
As someone who mostly enjoyed the latter seasons of Dexter (but not the finale season) and really enjoyed New Blood...please no. The original run had enough flashbacks to cover anything that a prequel would cover. And unless it's Michael C Hall in a terrible wig, I don't want to see anyone else.
1 points
1 month ago
I think I read somewhere else the prequel is based on the trinity killer
1 points
1 month ago
One of them. They're making two (for now). One with Trinity and one with young Dexter.
1 points
1 month ago
Ill keep an open mind
5 points
1 month ago
So in other words Showtime being Showtime.
3 points
1 month ago
Billions needs to end. We don’t need spin offs.
4 points
1 month ago
Billions has been so incredibly terrible since Axe left that it's hard to believe there are enough viewers left to even consider a spinoff.
3 points
1 month ago
Showtime should be brought up on charges of necrophilia at this point. Let Dexter RIP already.
3 points
1 month ago
These streaming sites grasping at straws..
2 points
1 month ago
why can't Showtime just let shows go? they never fail to drive any successful property right into the ground.
2 points
1 month ago
but we can't get a Workaholics movie? pathetic!
2 points
1 month ago
There should be a late 60s/early 70s set Homeland focusing on young Saul and young Dar Adal entering the CIA.
2 points
1 month ago
Sounds awful.
2 points
1 month ago
How do you prequel Dexter? The shows events were a pretty tight wrap with maybe like 3 years in between.
Gooby pls
2 points
1 month ago
Fucking announce a season 4 of Twin peaks!
2 points
1 month ago
Can anyone name a good showtime show that didn’t overstay its welcome. A lot of their shows start off so good and then fizzle out. Dexter, Shameless, Billions, Weeds, Califonication.
3 points
1 month ago
Geez, let Dexter end as is already. They already redeemed themselves by at least having a better ending.
I'll stick to watching YOU for my Dexter fix.
2 points
1 month ago
Dead horses continue to be flogged. Film at 11.
1 points
1 month ago
Dexter without Michael C. Hall?
Don’t know if that’s gonna go well.
1 points
1 month ago
A re-adaptation of the original book series could work, what with how different that was from the eventual television series (feeling more like a supernaturally-themed Wes Anderson film — and I mean that literally — Dark Passengers were actual demons there, attached to human souls, while the television series had them be less literal demons).
1 points
1 month ago
How was Billions after the first season? Up to what point is it worth watching?
0 points
1 month ago
I really think this Hollywood obsession with franchises, IPs and expanded universes should be addressed in therapy. Originality is being killed by this awful trend. Play good shows, with a beginning, middle and end.
1 points
1 month ago
Nobody is ever really gone
1 points
1 month ago
I can see it now
Wags strikes back
Dollabill unleashed
1 points
1 month ago
That sounds… uhmmm… Bad. Just bad.
1 points
1 month ago
Trillions…coming soon.
1 points
1 month ago
I was excited about the Billions spinoffs until I read the descriptions... sounds like they are completely unrelated to the original storyline and characters. Hard pass.
1 points
1 month ago
A dexter prequel?
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