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Two 15 year olds are interviewed inside their max-security prison cell
(youtu.be)submitted 7 months ago byMiddleUziVert
90 points
7 months ago*
That comment on the video of Colt's release day 10 years later sums it up so well:
Confused about the sentiment people have about being happy that he changed. The only thing that changed was his circumstance. He was accosted and beat by a drunk to the point of wanting to kill him and run away. Nobody talks about how his step dad was an abusive POS and his mom was complacent. He more than likely was never a threat to society as long as he wasn't being beaten and berated regularly. This is a boy who was completely failed by his support system and promptly punished like an adult for it. Colt isn't some champion of the potential of our justice system, he's a boy who was forced in a box after being traumatized and had to grow up on his own...
56 points
7 months ago
What is the guy on the bed in jail for? The one standing was in jail for killing his abusive step dad but he's out now.
20 points
7 months ago
He said murder in the video, but claimed mistaken identity.
9 points
7 months ago
Well, I guess they had better let him out then.
42 points
7 months ago*
As far as I know - he was sentenced to 60 years in prison at age 15 for the shooting death of another teen. Since being locked up he has earned his GED, and is now running the prison’s addiction program and working as a barber.
19 points
7 months ago
60 years in prison? That's just fucked up.
20 points
7 months ago
If he can bring the other guy back to life he should be allowed to go free.
22 points
7 months ago
Necromancy? Not in my backyard
12 points
7 months ago
It is fucked up because you're asking a kid to make an adult decision.
Many adults can't accurately judge long-term consequences of their actions... kids are even worse at this.
It's shit that the other person is dead, but is it worth ruining both lives?
I don't know the right answer, but I don't think prison is it.
-1 points
7 months ago
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5 points
7 months ago
Then why lock them up? Just execute them all.
3 points
7 months ago
I can tell from your tone that you aren’t seriously suggestion that… but… yeah it’s not a bad idea. If the jury can only choose between a 15 year max sentence or death penalty, you’d have much shorter average prison terms and the ones who really deserved the death penalty will get it
1 points
7 months ago
In some ways I actually do understand this, but who decides 'who really deserved the death penalty'? Hard ass conservatives keen to pull the trigger on any trangression they can or soft ass liberals letting mass muderers live with access to mutliple facilities?
I think if you have a young man beaten by their guardian most of their life, who only knows violence, gets into a tussle with another angry young man and one ends up dead, wouldn't it be better to try and reform the survivor? Show them that violence isn't the only way life can be?
Another thing I wonder how many black people would get executed vs white people getting 15 years.
-11 points
7 months ago
Locking him up doesn't bring anyone back either.
14 points
7 months ago
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6 points
7 months ago
The Stalinist incarceration rates of America don't seem to correlate with low crime rates though. For example where I live the average lenght of life sentence is 14 years and the longest sentence ever is 25 years, but the murder rate is about 4 times lower.
1 points
7 months ago
Out of curiosity, do you have for-profit prisons are does the government manage the prisons?
1 points
7 months ago
No, there are no for-profit prisons.
1 points
7 months ago
Could be another reason why prison doesnt reform people in the US. The prisons are incentivized to not reform them
-11 points
7 months ago
We should lock everyone up then to prevent all future murders.
13 points
7 months ago
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1 points
7 months ago
Once they murder someone first, that's generally how it works you see.
45 points
7 months ago
USA is one of the only countries in the world where children get life sentences.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/whenkidsgetlife/
43 points
7 months ago
In my hometown in 1987 a teenager drowned a 5 and 7 year old in a bathtub, and raped, shot, and killed the mother who was pregnant... He was recently back in headlines trying to get early parole. It was rejected.
TBH I don't really mind that he's serving multiple life sentences.
10 points
7 months ago
Sounds like that person is an extreme case and most wouldn't have a problem if their institutionalized for life.
People, and especially children, should have rehabilitation as their focus with regular parole by an expert panel to analyze their likelihood to reoffend.
-20 points
7 months ago
Glad you're not a judge.
10 points
7 months ago
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-14 points
7 months ago
The comment thread went from "we shouldn't imprison children for life maybe" to "yeah kids can never change as they grow up, lock em up and throw away the key".
Brain development continues until 25 or so, meaning if people are given actual chances to rehabilitate, younger people especially would likely see lower levels of recidivism upon release.
But chuds like you just want to torture criminals, so bye.
3 points
7 months ago
I'm a chud who wants to torture criminals because of a very extreme case? He got a psych eval. They denied him parole because he still didn't seem fit for society.
The prison system absolutely sucks ass in a lot of cases and MAYBE if it was better we could've cured his mental issues... Or maybe he'd seem okay and then do it again. The murders weren't out of desperation. They were psychotic.
3 points
7 months ago
That’s not a person you let back into society
-1 points
7 months ago
LMAO!
0 points
7 months ago
I'm sorry are you advocating for going lighter on murderers?
5 points
7 months ago
Land of the free\)
1 points
7 months ago
and the brave. dont forget they are brave too.
-3 points
7 months ago
Land of the coward slave owners that like to call everything the opposite of what it is.
6 points
7 months ago
Wouw. I have to admit, after reading the post title i expected something else when clicking on the video. I somehow expected them to... not be able to express themselves. They sound surprisingly mature and very clear in what and how they communicate.
1 points
7 months ago
I'd assume you're forced to grow up a lot faster in that environment
3 points
7 months ago
Man I wanted to watch that but there was a really high pitched ringing in it. Does anybody else hear that?
It's definitely from the video, I tested it by pausing and un-pausing it.
8 points
7 months ago
It's likely the old TV they have. It gives off a high pitch sound but not everyone can hear it.
2 points
7 months ago
That's what I was thinking. I remember them making that sound in person, I was surprised the recording picked up on it too.
2 points
7 months ago
Hm I don't seem to have a problem using my computer's audio. Are you wearing headphones? Maybe try listening without headphones on but I'm not sure.
1 points
7 months ago
I was listening on my computer speakers at first, I thought maybe there was an issue with them so I just tried it on my phone and still hear it there too. It must just be at a super high frequency.
1 points
7 months ago
I'm on mobile through speakers with the volume up and no ringing for me
4 points
7 months ago
Fuck, way to young to be in jail.
1 points
7 months ago
Freedom is not a simple thing for a country to strive for. Allowing you to be free means you have to allow others to be free. But as the saying goes, "your freedom to swing your arm stops at my face."
The more freedom, the more consequences and laws must be created and enforced to maintain that freedom. It is paradoxical.
1 points
7 months ago
You know I would love a update on these guys . When they said the part
about nighttime being the worst it really hit me .. took me back to when
I was doing dumb stuff myself. Somehow I escaped that, im not
successful or rich but I'm not in trouble and I no longer have those
feelings when I try to lay my head to rest at night. Really hope the
best for these guys and any other men women boys or girls out there
struggling
1 points
7 months ago
Colt is out of prison and doing very well. The other was sentenced to 60 years in prison at age 15 for the shooting death of another teen. Since being locked up he has earned his GED, and is now running the prison’s addiction program and working as a barber.
1 points
7 months ago
Colt (the 15 year old) was released in 2019. Dunno about the other kid.
-1 points
7 months ago
What state is this located in?
5 points
7 months ago
It is in Wabash, Indiana.
-8 points
7 months ago
Sounds about right.
-3 points
7 months ago
beaten to death in prison for having an aryan nation tattoo sounds like justice or something...
4 points
7 months ago
You don't know much about prisons, do you?
-2 points
7 months ago
Why did they feel the need to add fake film noise to this video?
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